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(Gothamist)   Is it humane to bring Grumpy Cat and other Internet famous animals on publicity tours? Does all the exploitation and camera flashes make them grumpy?   (gothamist.com) divider line 32
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2013-03-11 05:36:17 PM
8 votes:
How many hours at a time was this kid used as a prop at the 2008 RNC convention?
i50.tinypic.com
2013-03-11 06:03:31 PM
7 votes:
If a cat is upset, it WILL let you know. And you WILL know it, oh yes.
2013-03-11 05:25:54 PM
5 votes:
This is the dumbest "controversy" I've heard all day. It's a farking cat. As long as he gets fed, he doesn't give a shiat.
2013-03-11 07:29:10 PM
3 votes:
Automatically discredited article for heavily quoting PETA and taking their point of view seriously.

If you're going to solicit advice from an animal rights organization, try a normal, sane one like the Humane Society, not a ranting extremist organization that kills animals.
2013-03-11 07:04:58 PM
3 votes:
There really needs to be more grumpy cat pictures in here
2013-03-11 07:36:05 PM
2 votes:
People who use flash photography on animals should be beaten on the soles of their feet with reeds until they can't walk, and then pelted with ice berg lettuce heads and rotten tomatoes until they manage to crawl out of town or we run out of nasty produce.

Also we should kindly they don't do it again, at the edge of town, but still kindly.
2013-03-11 06:52:53 PM
2 votes:

Counter_Intelligent: I think it's fine.  Heaven forbid some overzealous fool try to apply this reasoning to pet shows.


This. Not to mention, well, any animal shows. I showed my fair share of animals in 4-H in my youth. And of the sheep, most were heritage breeding stock, and stood from the rest. They got plenty of attention. Especially the rams. And this was over four or five days, in a tent (later an open-air barn), in the summer. Some of the sheep liked it better than others -- one particularly docile ram loved the attention -- but all of them helped people to learn more about livestock diversity. Or at least that some sheep have horns. And of course I was at the fair to watch over my sheep and take care of them.

I don't know how much anyone is actually learning from Grumpy Cat, but arguably her owners are in the best position to know how much she can handle. They may be getting a lot of publicity out of this, but it doesn't sound like they're getting rich or anything.

/And Grumpy doesn't exactly look stressed.
//Kind of the opposite, actually.
2013-03-11 06:49:48 PM
2 votes:
I'm grumpy, and nobody ever made a farking meme out of me!
2013-03-11 06:19:00 PM
2 votes:

Rich Cream: Treygreen13: What, would you imagine, Grumpy Cat would do with money?


Not saying that he should get it. Only that they are exploiting the situation (cat's popularity) while denying doing that very same thing.


But that's just it. He's a cat. He'll lay around and look grumpy whether or not he's famous. They're not selling his fur to make Grumpy Quilts. The owners of Grumpy Cat taking him to a music festival so he can be petted and ooh'd and aah'd over isn't exploitation because Grumpy Cat doesn't lose anything. Because he's a cat.

And the money/fame will guarantee that the cat can have the best food/treats/toys/medical care for the rest of his life.
2013-03-11 06:07:01 PM
2 votes:
There was a very fat kitty who showed up at an animal shelter. The shelter milked it for all the publicity they could get. They flew out to NYC with the cat to show him off on some daytime shows. The cat died a week later of a heart attack.

So, no. If you have an animal with some kind of health problem or genetic defect, you don't tote it around.

The article mentions that Maru's owner refuses to do any kind of PR stuff, even at Maru's own home. I have a lot of respect for that person.
2013-03-11 05:48:49 PM
2 votes:

velvet_fog: This is the dumbest "controversy" I've heard all day. It's a farking cat. As long as he gets fed, he doesn't give a shiat.


That's why I keep my cat permanently locked in a pet carrier. But I always make certain to pour food in through the air holes in the top twice a day, so I'm sure he's perfectly happy.
2013-03-11 05:33:37 PM
2 votes:
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2013-03-11 05:27:08 PM
2 votes:
grumpy cat does what grumpy cat wants to do. now, seeing a horse on the Letterman show set makes me wonder how much trauma that poor thing went through, big city noise and smog, bright lights live audience etcetera. some people are arseholes.
2013-03-11 05:21:52 PM
2 votes:
I honestly think that cat doesn't give a shiat one way or the other.
2013-03-11 11:14:14 PM
1 votes:

i upped my meds-up yours: How could GC's handlers tell if she liked meeting thousands of random, possibly smelly people all fondling her and going kittykittykittykittykitty?

For that matter, how could they tell if she liked anything?


Here's a clue: Cats have teeth, and claws. The are adept at communicating displeasure.
2013-03-11 10:52:14 PM
1 votes:

atomicmask: Just when I think user content is better entertainment then paid television, I see this shiat and realize its about 5 times more retarded then any jersey shore or any other MTV trash can ever be.

its a cat with a stupid face, the joke was over after the first picture.


Sand in the vagina much?
2013-03-11 10:21:48 PM
1 votes:

gregscott: You know, grumpy cat is lucky. If he were a chicken, we would normally just eat him. Doing little or no work, he's actually supporting his human, not the other way around. So good for his owner. Whoever complains is just secretly jealous.


Yeah, THIS.

Owners of pigs exploit them by eating them or selling them to other people to eat, as do owners of cows, chickens, lambs, goats, alligators, and numerous other animals.

The cat gets to live, probably eats well, and in exchange has to meet lots of people.  The cat won't be eaten.  And anyone whining about it needs to STFU and GTFO.
2013-03-11 08:43:27 PM
1 votes:

My personal fave:

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2013-03-11 07:50:29 PM
1 votes:
Two Grumpy Cats articles today? It's my lucky day!

If she were mine, I wouldn't take her out and about. Though she may not look stressed it doesn't mean she isn't. She's not exactly a normal little cat. Hopefully she won't have to do this sort of thing often.

And since this thread needs more pictures, here are a couple (the other kitty is her brother Pokey, who has the same genetic weirdness).

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2013-03-11 07:49:18 PM
1 votes:

doglover: People who use flash photography on animals should be beaten on the soles of their feet with reeds until they can't walk, and then pelted with ice berg lettuce heads and rotten tomatoes until they manage to crawl out of town or we run out of nasty produce.

Also we should kindly they don't do it again, at the edge of town, but still kindly.


You sound cruel and inhumane, like somebody who has taken flash photos of his children.
Seriously, our eyes and nerves work pretty just like those of our pets.
If it isn't cruel to use flash when photographing people, why would you assume it's cruel and inhuman to use flash on animals?
2013-03-11 07:42:53 PM
1 votes:

Tyrone Slothrop: Treygreen13: Rich Cream: "A lot of people think we are exploiting the cat, but..."

So all the money you are getting is going to the cat?

No, it isn't. So don't say you aren't exploiting when you obviously are.

/people

What, would you imagine, Grumpy Cat would do with money?

Buy $1000 worth of cat toys. And you can't take them back because they've got spit all over them.


Oh, sure, they're FUN ...
2013-03-11 07:07:55 PM
1 votes:

maxheck: How many hours at a time was this kid used as a prop at the 2008 RNC convention?

i50.tinypic.com

Look it's a retard!  Holding a kid!
2013-03-11 06:54:16 PM
1 votes:

Treygreen13: Rich Cream: Treygreen13: But that's just it. He's a cat. He'll lay around and look grumpy whether or not he's famous. They're not selling his fur to make Grumpy Quilts. The owners of Grumpy Cat taking him to a music festival so he can be petted and ooh'd and aah'd over isn't exploitation because Grumpy Cat doesn't lose anything. Because he's a cat.

And the money/fame will guarantee that the cat can have the best food/treats/toys/medical care for the rest of his life.

You need to lose something to be exploited? Ummm, no.

1. use or utilization, especially for profit: the exploitation of newly discovered oil fields. 2. selfish utilization: He got ahead through the exploitation of his friends. 3. the combined, often varied, use of public-relations and advertising techniques to promote a person, movie, product, etc.  
You're arguing 2. I'm saying 1 and 3.

Oh, so what you meant was the neutral definition of exploitation. So using him in any way is "exploitation". Got it. Would taking a picture of him and putting it on a website be exploitation, under your definition? How about letting someone come see him at their house? Also exploitation, right? How about telling somebody about Grumpy Cat? Also exploitation?


Yeah, that's exploitation. Your assumption is that "exploiting" something is de facto bad. Use or utilization of something for profit is not always bad. Although use of the word "exploitation" has generally negative connotations, it doesn't NEED to be bad. In this case, the "use or utilization" of Grumpy Cat does not harm the cat, but is "exploitation" of a resource under the neutral definition. But it's not a bad thing as "exploitation" is often considered.
2013-03-11 06:49:05 PM
1 votes:

Treygreen13: What, would you imagine, Grumpy Cat would do with money?


Vet care. She's a dwarf. They come with health problems above and beyond the average housecat. She may need $$$$$$$ as she ages.
2013-03-11 06:16:03 PM
1 votes:

Treygreen13: What, would you imagine, Grumpy Cat would do with money?


Grumpy Cat would sleep on it while gently inhaling the odor of crushed dreams and misery that might be on the bills.
2013-03-11 06:02:45 PM
1 votes:
You know, grumpy cat is lucky. If he were a chicken, we would normally just eat him. Doing little or no work, he's actually supporting his human, not the other way around. So good for his owner. Whoever complains is just secretly jealous.
2013-03-11 05:57:21 PM
1 votes:
Let Grumpy Cat be. The owners know what's best for her and they know when to give her the rest she needs. Besides, the money they are making off of her will pay her Vet bills for a while.
2013-03-11 05:47:18 PM
1 votes:
For cats: it's ok only if they're 'tarded.

For dogs: it's okay only as long as you don't make them ride in the cargo hold of anything.
2013-03-11 05:44:48 PM
1 votes:
Since when did South By Southwest become all about stupid memes? Featuring Scumbag Steve there is beneath what SXSW used to be.
2013-03-11 05:40:28 PM
1 votes:
Like people, animals all have different personalities.
2013-03-11 05:31:54 PM
1 votes:
Since PETA is okay with this, I'm against it.
2013-03-11 04:16:14 PM
1 votes:
I think it's fine.  Heaven forbid some overzealous fool try to apply this reasoning to pet shows.
 
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