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(Yahoo)   Man's reaction to being arrested inside his own building for "loitering" by the NYPD sums up why keeping your civil rights is so hard: "I don't want to be stopped," he said. "But I also don't {it} to happen to my family"   (news.yahoo.com) divider line 123
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2013-03-11 03:22:30 PM  
But I also don't {it} to happen to my family

So... you changed the quote from "But I also don't want something bad to happen to my family " to one that makes no sense? Good work, subtard.
 
2013-03-11 03:26:16 PM  

timujin: But I also don't {it} to happen to my family

So... you changed the quote from "But I also don't want something bad to happen to my family " to one that makes no sense? Good work, subtard.


250 char limit, same basic idea.  in context, he makes it clear he  wants the patrols because they make his building safe, but he also doesn't want his family hasseled by the same cops (the "something bad to happens" he means).   a Variant of NIMBY thinking
 
2013-03-11 03:29:35 PM  

Magorn: timujin: But I also don't {it} to happen to my family

So... you changed the quote from "But I also don't want something bad to happen to my family " to one that makes no sense? Good work, subtard.

250 char limit, same basic idea.  in context, he makes it clear he  wants the patrols because they make his building safe, but he also doesn't want his family hasseled by the same cops (the "something bad to happens" he means).   a Variant of NIMBY thinking


No, in context the "something bad" is his family being a victim of crime, if you read the paragraph right before that one
 
2013-03-11 03:40:58 PM  
"It's good for us. It's great. We love it. Otherwise, people are in the hallways all the time up to no good," 77-year-old Courtney Campbell said, recalling a time when people would urinate in her hall.

But it's still ok to take a dump in the stairwell?  Right?  Hello?
 
2013-03-11 03:50:45 PM  

Magorn: timujin: But I also don't {it} to happen to my family

So... you changed the quote from "But I also don't want something bad to happen to my family " to one that makes no sense? Good work, subtard.

250 char limit, same basic idea.  in context, he makes it clear he  wants the patrols because they make his building safe, but he also doesn't want his family hasseled by the same cops (the "something bad to happens" he means).   a Variant of NIMBY thinking


The actual quote would have made it 234 characters.

Man's reaction to being arrested inside his own building for "loitering" by the NYPD sums up why keeping your civil rights is so hard: "I don't want to be stopped," he said. "But I also don't want something bad to happen to my family"
 
2013-03-11 03:52:32 PM  
Maybe the terrorists *have* won.
 
2013-03-11 03:53:23 PM  
SWB?

/standing while black
 
2013-03-11 03:53:30 PM  
"We don't feel safe, but it's because of the police,"

This is becoming the norm.
 
2013-03-11 03:53:59 PM  
So if I don't really like my family that much, I should send them there.

Good to know...
 
2013-03-11 03:54:10 PM  
Subby,

detained/questioned arrested
 
2013-03-11 03:54:25 PM  
Man, Simon Phoenix has really let himself go.
 
2013-03-11 03:55:29 PM  
Papers please
 
2013-03-11 03:55:35 PM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: "We don't feel safe, but it's because of the police,"

This is becoming the norm.


I'm pretty sure that for people of a darker hue, it's always been the norm.
 
2013-03-11 03:55:52 PM  
Is "loitering" NYPD code for "black guy standing around not doing anything otherwise illegal"?
 
2013-03-11 03:55:55 PM  

Al_Ed: Maybe the terrorists *have* won.


They did and they are currently in control of congress.
 
2013-03-11 03:56:01 PM  
 
2013-03-11 03:59:20 PM  

Bareefer Obonghit: Man, Simon Phoenix has really let himself go.


Hey, buddy, YOU try getting put back together after being cryogenically flash-frozen and then shattered.  Let's see how good-looking YOU turn out.
 
2013-03-11 03:59:35 PM  
That's the bloomberg way, damn it! Shut up & take what's good for you.

NYC - suck city. Nuke it.
 
2013-03-11 04:00:02 PM  

Spade: Is "loitering" NYPD code for "black guy standing around not doing anything otherwise illegal"?


If by NYPD you mean all police forces and by black guy you mean anybody who isn't "normal"... Then yes.
 
2013-03-11 04:00:05 PM  
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

Seriously, what happens when the criminals figure out 'huh- the cops don't patrol in the buildings at night.'?
 
2013-03-11 04:02:27 PM  

Magorn: timujin: But I also don't {it} to happen to my family

So... you changed the quote from "But I also don't want something bad to happen to my family " to one that makes no sense? Good work, subtard.

250 char limit, same basic idea.  in context, he makes it clear he  wants the patrols because they make his building safe, but he also doesn't want his family hasseled by the same cops (the "something bad to happens" he means).   a Variant of NIMBY thinking


But you also the verb.
 
2013-03-11 04:03:11 PM  
Subtard doesnt understand his own submission.
 
2013-03-11 04:04:32 PM  
Spade: Is "loitering" NYPD code for "black guy standing around not doing anything otherwise illegal"?

s/black guy/anyone we don't like the look of/

For example
A white guy wearing a trench coat on a bright sunny day.
Asian guys changing their windshield wipers in a pep boys parking lot
Hispanic guys in a low rider (even if the low rider happens to be moving at the time)
A white guy sitting in an unmarked van, down by the river

etc
 
2013-03-11 04:04:48 PM  
 
2013-03-11 04:05:33 PM  
If it's so dangerous at their homes in the city, why don't they just suck it up and stay in their summer villas in the country year 'round?
 
2013-03-11 04:07:27 PM  
i131.photobucket.com

Well now. It's about time the rest of you slackers got a taste of the police state that California has already become. Welcome to your future, you earned it by allowing that piece of sh*t Cheney to steal the elections and shove America so far right that it may never recover its balance. Screw you guys, I'm going to Europe once I finish my degree.

/fuX0r the police
 
2013-03-11 04:08:42 PM  
Also I wonder, since COPS is still in production, how many seemingly random stops result in nothing that's worthy to be shown. Because right now, what gets shown on the show makes them look like damn prophets.

// in a recent episode, a kid gets stopped for squealing tires around a corner. The cop is about to let him go when the kid starts acting all weird and shiat (the cop had handed him back his license, but the kid starts insisting that he had handed the cop his whole wallet (he hadn't)).

End result, drunk test, failed :P

I'm like kid, he was about to let your ass go and you had to start acting dumb.
 
2013-03-11 04:08:50 PM  
And then they wonder why people live in the suburbs.  I can have more than 10 cars parked for free around my house and an officer on patrol might drive past every few months.  The main noisy person nearby just moved away so the loudest things that I hear in the morning are some woodpeckers.
 
2013-03-11 04:09:07 PM  

Stephen_Falken: [i131.photobucket.com image 200x309]

Well now. It's about time the rest of you slackers got a taste of the police state that California has already become. Welcome to your future, you earned it by allowing that piece of sh*t Cheney to steal the elections and shove America so far right that it may never recover its balance. Screw you guys, I'm going to Europe once I finish my degree.

/fuX0r the police


Yeah....New York City isn't exactly run by the Republican Party, but know your enemy, etc...
 
2013-03-11 04:10:11 PM  

Stephen_Falken: [i131.photobucket.com image 200x309]

Well now. It's about time the rest of you slackers got a taste of the police state that California has already become. Welcome to your future, you earned it by allowing that piece of sh*t Cheney to steal the elections and shove America so far right that it may never recover its balance. Screw you guys, I'm going to Europe once I finish my degree.

/fuX0r the police


/hot
 
2013-03-11 04:10:14 PM  

kmmontandon: people of a darker hue


I think you mean Lightness; or possibly Saturation.
 
2013-03-11 04:10:50 PM  

Al_Ed: Maybe the terrorists *have* won.


Maybe?
 
2013-03-11 04:10:58 PM  

ciberido: Bareefer Obonghit: Man, Simon Phoenix has really let himself go.

Hey, buddy, YOU try getting put back together after being cryogenically flash-frozen and then shattered.  Let's see how good-looking YOU turn out.


Woah, who didn't wash  yourthree seashells this morning?
 
2013-03-11 04:11:27 PM  
LWB??
 
2013-03-11 04:11:34 PM  

blatz514: "It's good for us. It's great. We love it. Otherwise, people are in the hallways all the time up to no good," 77-year-old Courtney Campbell said, recalling a time when people would urinate in her hall.

But it's still ok to take a dump in the stairwell?  Right?  Hello?


Loitering, i.e. lingering without a purpose.
So, if you go in to take a dump in the stairwell, that would not be loitering since you have a purpose. If that helps...
 
2013-03-11 04:11:47 PM  
The answer here is obvious: More guns will make the place safer.
 
2013-03-11 04:12:02 PM  

YixilTesiphon: Stephen_Falken: [i131.photobucket.com image 200x309]

Well now. It's about time the rest of you slackers got a taste of the police state that California has already become. Welcome to your future, you earned it by allowing that piece of sh*t Cheney to steal the elections and shove America so far right that it may never recover its balance. Screw you guys, I'm going to Europe once I finish my degree.

/fuX0r the police

Yeah....New York City isn't exactly run by the Republican Party, but know your enemy, etc...


You're right. In this case, it's not Republicanism that's the problem...it's pure authoritarianism.
 
2013-03-11 04:12:23 PM  

Stephen_Falken: [i131.photobucket.com image 200x309]

Well now. It's about time the rest of you slackers got a taste of the police state that California has already become. Welcome to your future, you earned it by allowing that piece of sh*t Cheney to steal the elections and shove America so far right that it may never recover its balance. Screw you guys, I'm going to Europe once I finish my degree.

/fuX0r the police


sounds like we won't lose much.
 
2013-03-11 04:13:34 PM  
Somebody/Anybody - read this:

Well now. It's about time the rest of you slackers got a taste of the police state that California has already become. Welcome to your future, you earned it by allowing that piece of sh*t Cheney to steal the elections and shove America so far right that it may never recover its balance. Screw you guys, I'm going to Europe once I finish my degree.

Don't finish the degree, you won't need it. Dishwashers can work with undergraduate work. Cheney? Really?
 
2013-03-11 04:17:23 PM  
It might be the only program of its kind but police enter private gated apartment complexes all the time where I live.
 
2013-03-11 04:18:24 PM  
img833.imageshack.us
 
2013-03-11 04:18:54 PM  
It's a metaphor! They speak in metaphors!
 
2013-03-11 04:20:42 PM  
, Ligon sent her teenage son to the corner store get ketchup for the fries she was making for dinner. He didn't return.

Either get Heinz, or don't come home son.
 
2013-03-11 04:21:28 PM  
I know one thing about the law: do not fark with Shira Scheindlin.

// no relation to "Judge Judy" Scheindlin, though they're both scary as hell
 
2013-03-11 04:22:18 PM  
"if she hadn't come downstairs to identify him he would've been arrested on a trespassing charge."

So:

not arrested
not loitering

Anything else you'd care to share with us, subby?
 
2013-03-11 04:22:42 PM  

lordargent: Spade: Is "loitering" NYPD code for "black guy standing around not doing anything otherwise illegal"?

s/black guy/anyone we don't like the look of/

For example
A white guy wearing a trench coat on a bright sunny day.
Asian guys changing their windshield wipers in a pep boys parking lot
Hispanic guys in a low rider (even if the low rider happens to be moving at the time)
A white guy sitting in an unmarked van, down by the river

etc


Please use the quote system ;) I read that as `Spade: Is "loitering" NYPD code for "black guy `
 
2013-03-11 04:22:50 PM  
I would think that as a trade off for cops preventing people from taking a shiat in my hallway, I may consider telling my guests to come on up to my apartment, not wait in the hallways or lobby.

It may not work for everyone.
 
2013-03-11 04:23:12 PM  
Either get Heinz, or don't come home son.

Sick. Simply sick. I'd damp a well-used tampon on my fries before I'd dump heinz on it. At least I'd get some flavor. That's just sick.
 
2013-03-11 04:23:31 PM  
Cop-hating thead trifecta in play.

/let_the_hate_flow.jpg
 
2013-03-11 04:23:53 PM  
"Kelly has called the practice a lifesaving tool that deters criminals from taking illegal weapons in public"

Damn, even the proponents of the policy can't explain why they support it without explaining it in terms of "it's a false excuse to stop and search people that we otherwise have no probable cause to stop and search because they aren't doing anything suspicious"

The logic of the "loitering" arrests being that now police can claim (lie) that ANYONE seen in or around the building is by default "loitering" and therefore is not just available to be asked questions per "Terry-stop" limits, but actually subject to ARREST, which then allows the cop to do a full body search and detain or jail the individual - all for the purpose of finding something else that they can be prosecuted for (drugs, guns, etc.)
 
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