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2013-03-11 01:01:06 PM  

WienerButt: No mention of Rick calling him the town drunk? Were they implying Rick knew the governor or is that just the realization that he is a Joe Schmo who now has all this power?


I took it as a probing insult, rather than one with any background knowledge. Rick knows this guy's "type".
 
2013-03-11 01:01:16 PM  

serial_crusher: hmm, is it that the bacterias avoid the zombie virus, or that they become zombie-bacteria and feed on living bacteria instead of dead flesh?


They never got into it so deep as to give it an actual in depth pseudo-science explanation   Just that all living creatures, all the way to bacteria, avoid the virus on an instinctual level.
 
2013-03-11 01:01:24 PM  

WienerButt: No mention of Rick calling him the town drunk? Were they implying Rick knew the governor or is that just the realization that he is a Joe Schmo who now has all this power?


I took it as the latter.
 
2013-03-11 01:03:58 PM  

Shadowknight: I know it's a completely different universe only using similar rules, but World War Z covers the idea that zombies take longer to rot simply because living things, from animals to bacteria, all have a natural tendency to want to avoid the zombie virus itself


People should get over trying to explain zombies with science. Despite the half assed stab at explaining them at the CDC, zombies are clearly supernatural, no less than vampires are. No one tries to explain them with biology.
 
2013-03-11 01:06:36 PM  

Mugato: Shadowknight: I know it's a completely different universe only using similar rules, but World War Z covers the idea that zombies take longer to rot simply because living things, from animals to bacteria, all have a natural tendency to want to avoid the zombie virus itself

People should get over trying to explain zombies with science. Despite the half assed stab at explaining them at the CDC, zombies are clearly supernatural, no less than vampires are. No one tries to explain them with biology.


Yes, they do.
http://www.fvza.org/science2.html
 
2013-03-11 01:09:41 PM  

Mugato: Shadowknight: I know it's a completely different universe only using similar rules, but World War Z covers the idea that zombies take longer to rot simply because living things, from animals to bacteria, all have a natural tendency to want to avoid the zombie virus itself

People should get over trying to explain zombies with science. Despite the half assed stab at explaining them at the CDC, zombies are clearly supernatural, no less than vampires are. No one tries to explain them with biology.


you can explain pretty much anything with biology though...
fc02.deviantart.net
 
2013-03-11 01:13:59 PM  

serial_crusher: Mugato: Shadowknight: I know it's a completely different universe only using similar rules, but World War Z covers the idea that zombies take longer to rot simply because living things, from animals to bacteria, all have a natural tendency to want to avoid the zombie virus itself

People should get over trying to explain zombies with science. Despite the half assed stab at explaining them at the CDC, zombies are clearly supernatural, no less than vampires are. No one tries to explain them with biology.

you can explain pretty much anything with biology though...
[fc02.deviantart.net image 850x658]


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How very accurate and very sad.
 
2013-03-11 01:15:18 PM  

redmid17: ongbok: maverickzy: Let me get this straight.  Rick has no problem ignoring that poor kid who was yelling for help.  He has no problem shooting those two guys from New Jersey in the bar.  But shooting a real and credible existential threat to him and everyone he knows?  Nope, that's too much.

Weak.

Why is it weak? He was there to broker a peace deal, so he sat down an listened to what he had to say. Rick knows that they are tremendously outnumbered, and for all he knew if he would have killed the Governor there none of them would have walked away from the meeting alive, and the Governor's men would have finished the prison off and killed everybody inside.

So shooting him at that moment would have been stupid. Instead walking away and saying you would think about his demands was the smarter thing because know you have time to prepare yourself for the attack that you know is coming.

You beat me to it. When you're overmatched and outgunned, listening under a flag of truce isn't a bad option.


Additionally, Rick still wants to hold onto the hope that there is a peaceful way out of this. Even though he knows it will not happen and the Governor is a psycho who wants to kill them all. Shooting him right there would have been good for all of 5 seconds until you realize everyone else there would have probably died. Then the town would have one of the fighters lead a revenge attack on the prison anyways.

Rick is a smart guy when he's not crazy. But is Rick starts yelling at you, oh boy are you in for a crazy bad time. Yelling at the group that tried to stay in the prison is going to come back and bite him real hard.
 
2013-03-11 01:15:44 PM  

Mugato: People should get over trying to explain zombies with science. Despite the half assed stab at explaining them at the CDC, zombies are clearly supernatural, no less than vampires are. No one tries to explain them with biology.


Agreed. It only invites arguments from nitpicky-types. "Wizard did it" shuts them down cold.
 
2013-03-11 01:21:03 PM  

dajoro: Or grow up.


I did.  I cancelled cable.
 
2013-03-11 01:25:53 PM  

GoldSpider: dajoro: Or grow up.

I did.  I cancelled cable.



If you have trouble getting cable on that high horse of yours, try satellite.
 
2013-03-11 01:39:42 PM  
I just hope they kill the  Governor off this season and close that plotline. I've heard too many rumors about them extending it till next year, and that'd just be ridiculous. Time to move on.

Just finish out the prison this year, next season follow them on the road (hello Abraham!) and to Alexandria, and then for season 5 deal with a new primary antagonist in Negan.
 
2013-03-11 01:39:59 PM  

Crewmannumber6: Milton is going down, but not until after he switches sides.

Big bearded black guy in woodberry has an expiration date (surprised he's lasted this long)



I want Cutty to stick around (I still can't get switched over to thinking of him as Tyreese).
 
2013-03-11 01:46:52 PM  
Carl will shoot the Governer.
 
2013-03-11 01:48:25 PM  

WienerButt: No mention of Rick calling him the town drunk? Were they implying Rick knew the governor or is that just the realization that he is a Joe Schmo who now has all this power?


Not the first time:

2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-03-11 01:53:47 PM  

NeoCortex42: dajoro: What did the episode title mean?  "Arrow on the Doorstop."

Maybe something about making an open declaration of war?

Or someone took a doorstop to the knee.


I used to be a Zombie killer like you...
 
2013-03-11 01:54:26 PM  

Hebalo: WienerButt: No mention of Rick calling him the town drunk? Were they implying Rick knew the governor or is that just the realization that he is a Joe Schmo who now has all this power?

I took it as a probing insult, rather than one with any background knowledge. Rick knows this guy's "type".


This
 
2013-03-11 01:56:16 PM  

Clash City Farker: Carl will shoot the Governer.


But what about the Governor? Will he shoot him, too?
 
2013-03-11 01:58:22 PM  

kumanoki: Clash City Farker: Carl will shoot the Governer.

But what about the Governor? Will he shoot him, too?


Yes. it was foreshadowed when he shot that other guy.
 
2013-03-11 02:13:22 PM  

Supes: I just hope they kill the  Governor off this season and close that plotline. I've heard too many rumors about them extending it till next year, and that'd just be ridiculous. Time to move on.

Just finish out the prison this year, next season follow them on the road (hello Abraham!) and to Alexandria, and then for season 5 deal with a new primary antagonist in Negan.


I want on the road, arrival at the safe zone and a build up to the Saviors.

In fact I want the boys who were shot and Randall from season 2 to be a group of survivors who eventually team up with them, recognize the Rick and Co. group and relay the information for a Season 3 ending reveal of Negan.
 
2013-03-11 02:17:23 PM  

serial_crusher: GlobalStrategic MapleSyrup Reserve: serial_crusher: lectos: Why are the zombies so easy to kill now?  You poke them in the eye and they die.  Why are they even a threat? BORING!

All characters on the show should wear this shirt:

[www.bothbigandclever.com image 599x624]

considering most of them have been dead for 3 years now, I'd say they're decomposing more slowly than average.

1 television season =/= 1 in story year

This is possibly more grating than the people who think season breaks are the end of a season.

Yeah, but everybody on TV apparently ages relative to real world time, regardless of how much time passes in the show.  I figure corpses rot at the same rate.

/ Then again, Fetal Judith aged in show-relative time, so maybe it's only "living" characters (using pro-choice version of "living") who age at real world rates, which would mean the zombies don't....


Dude, what did you smoke? Give me a hoot.
 
2013-03-11 02:22:47 PM  

MyKingdomForYourHorse: Supes: I just hope they kill the  Governor off this season and close that plotline. I've heard too many rumors about them extending it till next year, and that'd just be ridiculous. Time to move on.

Just finish out the prison this year, next season follow them on the road (hello Abraham!) and to Alexandria, and then for season 5 deal with a new primary antagonist in Negan.

I want on the road, arrival at the safe zone and a build up to the Saviors.

In fact I want the boys who were shot and Randall from season 2 to be a group of survivors who eventually team up with them, recognize the Rick and Co. group and relay the information for a Season 3 ending reveal of Negan.


Everyone is clamoring for Negan now. How is Negan drastically different than the Governor? Just another powerful opponent. What's to be gained by quickly wrapping up the Governor, just to give us more of the same?

There's no need to do the Alexandria plotline even. It could be accomplished when the Governor's story is done, right in Woodbury. Because that story was mostly about Rick and Co. not being able to fit in very well, and then deciding to be in charge, and then finding a bigger threat.

It just seems like more of the same. Why not explore the possibilities we have in front of us? Does Abraham bring anything new or different to the mix?
 
2013-03-11 02:24:55 PM  
can they head south to Orlando to visit a zombie infested DisneyWorld?
 
2013-03-11 02:30:48 PM  

Hebalo: MyKingdomForYourHorse: Supes: I just hope they kill the  Governor off this season and close that plotline. I've heard too many rumors about them extending it till next year, and that'd just be ridiculous. Time to move on.

Just finish out the prison this year, next season follow them on the road (hello Abraham!) and to Alexandria, and then for season 5 deal with a new primary antagonist in Negan.

I want on the road, arrival at the safe zone and a build up to the Saviors.

In fact I want the boys who were shot and Randall from season 2 to be a group of survivors who eventually team up with them, recognize the Rick and Co. group and relay the information for a Season 3 ending reveal of Negan.

Everyone is clamoring for Negan now. How is Negan drastically different than the Governor? Just another powerful opponent. What's to be gained by quickly wrapping up the Governor, just to give us more of the same?

There's no need to do the Alexandria plotline even. It could be accomplished when the Governor's story is done, right in Woodbury. Because that story was mostly about Rick and Co. not being able to fit in very well, and then deciding to be in charge, and then finding a bigger threat.

It just seems like more of the same. Why not explore the possibilities we have in front of us? Does Abraham bring anything new or different to the mix?


Yeah, I don't really see the need to skip 50 issues of the comic. They already skipped enough in the prison/Woodbury plotlines.
 
2013-03-11 02:31:05 PM  
Good episode IMO, the sit down was tense like the opening scene from Inglorious Basterds.

Here's my question: at the end Rick's telling Herschel about the Gov's real offer, and asks him to talk Rick out of accepting it and turning over Michonne. Right after he says the Gov will probably kill (or at least try to) them anyway if they do turn her over.

Uh hello? Isn't that pretty much the only reason you'd need to reject Gov's offer? You have to figure he's going to attack you anyway, so why bother turning her over, particularly when she's so useful. It would be different if you knew 100% turning her over would end the war, then I'd think you might consider it. But if you figure he's going to attack anyway (which you should since you know he's a nutjob), then what reason is there for accepting the offer?

The other thing that kinda makes me wonder is why Rick thinks they have to kill this guy as some retaliation for what he did to Maggie and Glen. Merle did most of the whooping on Glen and he's in the group now, so why the blood vendetta against the Gov over groping Maggie? Hello, apocalypse going on, do you really want to engage in a gunfight with some of the last remaining human beings because he copped a feel? Seems like an overreaction to me, particularly since you'll be putting everyone's lives at risk including your baby and son.

I think the way he lied to the group was dumb too. He could have just said the Gov would accept nothing less than surrender if he wanted to tell a half truth anyway, instead of what he said.
 
2013-03-11 02:33:56 PM  

MyKingdomForYourHorse: Supes: I just hope they kill the  Governor off this season and close that plotline. I've heard too many rumors about them extending it till next year, and that'd just be ridiculous. Time to move on.

Just finish out the prison this year, next season follow them on the road (hello Abraham!) and to Alexandria, and then for season 5 deal with a new primary antagonist in Negan.

I want on the road, arrival at the safe zone and a build up to the Saviors.

In fact I want the boys who were shot and Randall from season 2 to be a group of survivors who eventually team up with them, recognize the Rick and Co. group and relay the information for a Season 3 ending reveal of Negan.


Shane killed Randall already, so he isn't coming back (well, not as a human at any rate). The only one still alive who could recognize Rick would be the guy who drove away by himself. I doubt we see them again.... much like the Atlanta nursing-home survivors the crew met in Season 1 (and the random hitchhiker last week), the other survivors were introduced solely to show how much Rick's crew has changed in how they perceive the world.

I still don't see Negan coming in next season, but he'll definitely at least be teased. I'm also very curious if and how they work Hilltop into everything.
 
2013-03-11 02:36:48 PM  
Sadly, I wish they could just hand over Michonne and call it good. Not because I want to see the blooming of the prison garden against the backdrop of a nervous truce, but because her character is so poorly developed she should be jettisoned.
 
2013-03-11 02:42:46 PM  

Hebalo: Everyone is clamoring for Negan now. How is Negan drastically different than the Governor? Just another powerful opponent. What's to be gained by quickly wrapping up the Governor, just to give us more of the same?

There's no need to do the Alexandria plotline even. It could be accomplished when the Governor's story is done, right in Woodbury. Because that story was mostly about Rick and Co. not being able to fit in very well, and then deciding to be in charge, and then finding a bigger threat.

It just seems like more of the same. Why not explore the possibilities we have in front of us? Does Abraham bring anything new or different to the mix?


Well there is a lot to explore in the inbetween and no one way the entire Alexanria plotline had to be written out, hell lets throw The Hunters in there for good measure too.
 
2013-03-11 02:43:58 PM  

Hebalo: Everyone is clamoring for Negan now. How is Negan drastically different than the Governor? Just another powerful opponent. What's to be gained by quickly wrapping up the Governor, just to give us more of the same?

There's no need to do the Alexandria plotline even. It could be accomplished when the Governor's story is done, right in Woodbury. Because that story was mostly about Rick and Co. not being able to fit in very well, and then deciding to be in charge, and then finding a bigger threat.

It just seems like more of the same. Why not explore the possibilities we have in front of us? Does Abraham bring anything new or different to the mix?


Negan and the Governor are very different. Governor is an proud, evil, calculating SOB. Negan is a sociopath. It's the unpredictability around Negan that would make him a fun enemy, if done right.

I do agree that in theory, Rick's group could "beat" the Governor and then move into Woodbury and have a large portion of the Alexandria storylines there. But frankly I'd love to see them on the road for a bit. We haven't really seen that except the horrible first half of season 2. That would add a different dynamic on the show we really haven't seen.

Oh and Abraham adds a strong secondary leader to question Rick's decisions. We had that for awhile in Shane before he went and got himself killed. Now we have that in Merle, but no one respects Merle or cares what he thinks. Abraham would bring a much needed voice of dissent back.
 
2013-03-11 02:45:34 PM  

Supes: I still don't see Negan coming in next season, but he'll definitely at least be teased. I'm also very curious if and how they work Hilltop into everything.


I can live with teasers

One thing I don't want is for them to get bogged down in one location like they did second season, of which I fully realize that half of that issue was the fact that they never got back that 30% filming credit and it instead went to AMC coffers.
 
2013-03-11 02:45:41 PM  
I say after a season on the farm and a season in the prison, spending next year on the road would be a nice change of pace.  There's no reason to rush into catching up with the comics.  It would also be pretty silly to go directly from The Governor to Negan.
 
2013-03-11 02:51:56 PM  

NeoCortex42: It seems like it would be incredibly easy to ambush the prison at the moment.


Operation Chinese Pork is a go!
 
2013-03-11 03:01:00 PM  

maverickzy: Let me get this straight.  Rick has no problem ignoring that poor kid who was yelling for help.  He has no problem shooting those two guys from New Jersey in the bar.  But shooting a real and credible existential threat to him and everyone he knows?  Nope, that's too much.

Weak.


Remember the comment that Rick makes when he asks Michonne to drive them back to the prison -- "I see things".

He's driving to the town, sees the hitchhiker by the side of the road, and just assumes he's another figment of his imagination. He doesn't say a word (because what if the hitchhiker *is* just another figment), and everyone else is waiting for him to say "stop" (or not).   For the trip back, he admits (only to Michonne) that seeing things isn't such a good thing for a driver -- now that he and Michonne are on good figment-sharing terms.

The look in his face when he sees the body at the side of the road on the way back definitely had some "Huh... guess that one was real" in it.
 
2013-03-11 03:05:45 PM  

kumanoki: Now I just imagine Steven Yeun at every read-through going, "DoMaggie and Glen get naked in this scene?"
"No, Steven." "How about this scene?" "No, Steven."


I can't really say I blame him.
 
2013-03-11 03:06:40 PM  

Matt Foley: NeoCortex42: It seems like it would be incredibly easy to ambush the prison at the moment.

Operation Chinese Pork is a go!


You go now!  Here 4 Hours!
 
2013-03-11 03:09:21 PM  

js34603: Good episode IMO, the sit down was tense like the opening scene from Inglorious Basterds.

motores.com.py

 
2013-03-11 03:13:59 PM  

serial_crusher: kumanoki: Herschel will die sniping. It's not like he can run.
Carol will die defending Judith.

I was going to say Herschel sacrifices himself to buy time for the others, but that would be too cliche.

Herschel tries to sacrifice himself to save Judith and Carol, but Carol gets shot by one of the Governor's henchmen, so Herschel has to man up and rescue the baby.  Bonus if he has a small bite but gets Judith to safety before turning.


Everyone already has the virus. You don't turn because of the bite. You turn because infection from the bite kills you.
 
2013-03-11 03:14:50 PM  

ObeliskToucher: maverickzy: Let me get this straight.  Rick has no problem ignoring that poor kid who was yelling for help.  He has no problem shooting those two guys from New Jersey in the bar.  But shooting a real and credible existential threat to him and everyone he knows?  Nope, that's too much.

Weak.

Remember the comment that Rick makes when he asks Michonne to drive them back to the prison -- "I see things".

He's driving to the town, sees the hitchhiker by the side of the road, and just assumes he's another figment of his imagination. He doesn't say a word (because what if the hitchhiker *is* just another figment), and everyone else is waiting for him to say "stop" (or not).   For the trip back, he admits (only to Michonne) that seeing things isn't such a good thing for a driver -- now that he and Michonne are on good figment-sharing terms.

The look in his face when he sees the body at the side of the road on the way back definitely had some "Huh... guess that one was real" in it.


Except that Carl very clearly saw the hitchhiker too.
 
2013-03-11 03:16:03 PM  

I read fark for the pics: serial_crusher: kumanoki: Herschel will die sniping. It's not like he can run.
Carol will die defending Judith.

I was going to say Herschel sacrifices himself to buy time for the others, but that would be too cliche.

Herschel tries to sacrifice himself to save Judith and Carol, but Carol gets shot by one of the Governor's henchmen, so Herschel has to man up and rescue the baby.  Bonus if he has a small bite but gets Judith to safety before turning.

Everyone already has the virus. You don't turn because of the bite. You turn because infection from the bite kills you.


yeah, but either way a bite means inevitable death.  Herschel can't chop his other leg off and still get the baby to safety.
 
2013-03-11 03:19:57 PM  

NeoCortex42: I say after a season on the farm and a season in the prison, spending next year on the road would be a nice change of pace.  There's no reason to rush into catching up with the comics.  It would also be pretty silly to go directly from The Governor to Negan.


Whatever happens when they get there aside, season 4 would be a good place to show the survivors on the road between Woodbury and the prison, to Alexandria. I think it would be a nice break from the comic series (as the showrunners are wont to do) to split Negan and the Saviors from Alexandria itself, and make them a group that harasses the group for 3-4 episodes on their way through the territory. That'd be a good way to introduce Abraham as well.

And, Abraham ought to be portrayed by Hulk Hogan. Just sayin'.
 
2013-03-11 03:20:11 PM  

BATMANATEE: Except that Carl very clearly saw the hitchhiker too.


Yeah, Rick didn't pickup the hitchhiker because he's a dick. Same reason why he kicked out Black Guy #3 and his crew. And now they fight for the Gov'ner.
 
2013-03-11 03:20:33 PM  

theurge14: Weigard: The writing and directing in the meeting was garbage. All of the dialogue sounded like words just said to fill time, and the scenes themselves were disjointed.

This.  Too many blank stares and glaring without words.  To be fair, it's not the only show to suffer from this problem.

Compare and contrast to an Aaron Sorkin show.

Real life is chattery, with lots of movement.  TV and movie writers have gotten pretty bad at this.


Stillness would be natural in that situation. Both men were on edge and very aware that the other side could react badly to sudden movement. The Governor tried very hard to charm Rick into relaxing but they were both ready to shoot at any second.
 
2013-03-11 03:26:20 PM  

serial_crusher: Sybarite: So Andrea told the Governor all about the whole Rick-Shane-Lori paternity thing? They must have some weird pillow talk.

I imagine there was at least one round of "tell me everything you know about this guy".

Could have also been New Black Guy and his group.  They were at the prison during Rick's meltdown.  Stands to reason that somebody might have white nighted for him and explained to them all the good reasons he had for going crazy.


Nah, Tyrese and his crew had no knowledge of the Rick/Shane thing and no reason to white knight Rick since they met him once and he acted weird and kicked them out. The Gov pumped Andrea for info and she spilled it all
 
2013-03-11 03:27:39 PM  

BATMANATEE: ObeliskToucher: maverickzy: Let me get this straight.  Rick has no problem ignoring that poor kid who was yelling for help.  He has no problem shooting those two guys from New Jersey in the bar.  But shooting a real and credible existential threat to him and everyone he knows?  Nope, that's too much.

Weak.

Remember the comment that Rick makes when he asks Michonne to drive them back to the prison -- "I see things".

He's driving to the town, sees the hitchhiker by the side of the road, and just assumes he's another figment of his imagination. He doesn't say a word (because what if the hitchhiker *is* just another figment), and everyone else is waiting for him to say "stop" (or not).   For the trip back, he admits (only to Michonne) that seeing things isn't such a good thing for a driver -- now that he and Michonne are on good figment-sharing terms.

The look in his face when he sees the body at the side of the road on the way back definitely had some "Huh... guess that one was real" in it.

Except that Carl very clearly saw the hitchhiker too.


Yep, he twisted around in his chair to look back at him... and didn't say a word to Rick ("... everyone else is waiting for him to say "stop" (or not).", as I said.
 
2013-03-11 03:31:20 PM  

Digitalstrange: serial_crusher: Sybarite: So Andrea told the Governor all about the whole Rick-Shane-Lori paternity thing? They must have some weird pillow talk.

I imagine there was at least one round of "tell me everything you know about this guy".

Could have also been New Black Guy and his group.  They were at the prison during Rick's meltdown.  Stands to reason that somebody might have white nighted for him and explained to them all the good reasons he had for going crazy.

Nah, Tyrese and his crew had no knowledge of the Rick/Shane thing and no reason to white knight Rick since they met him once and he acted weird and kicked them out. The Gov pumped Andrea for info and she spilled it all


you misunderstood.  I mean somebody in the prison group white knighted to Tyrese when he was weirded out.  It didn't work, then he went and told the governor everything he knew.
 
2013-03-11 03:37:42 PM  

Mugato: People should get over trying to explain zombies with science. Despite the half assed stab at explaining them at the CDC, zombies are clearly supernatural, no less than vampires are. No one tries to explain them with biology.


Eh, I liked the explanation.  It was just sciency enough to work in the universe without getting exact enough to poke too many holes in my suspension of disbelief.  See also: Dilithium crystals, warp drives...
 
2013-03-11 03:37:54 PM  

GoldSpider: Weigard: The title of the show doesn't refer to the zombies.

Only at the end do we realize that it's the LIVING that are the "Walking Dead" and not the zombies!  M. Night Shyamalan couldn't have scripted it better.


Nope, it was pretty apparent in "Clear" when no one even brought up picking up the hitchhiker guy. It never even occurred to them. And these are the good guys. But when the inevitable happened because they didn't help they didn't hesitate to scavenge his gear.
 
2013-03-11 03:42:32 PM  

Mugato: BATMANATEE: Except that Carl very clearly saw the hitchhiker too.

Yeah, Rick didn't pickup the hitchhiker because he's a dick. Same reason why he kicked out Black Guy #3 and his crew. And now they fight for the Gov'ner.


Would you pick up a stranger that close to Woodbury?  The Governor obviously has eyes on the prison.
 
2013-03-11 03:58:22 PM  

serial_crusher: Digitalstrange: serial_crusher: Sybarite: So Andrea told the Governor all about the whole Rick-Shane-Lori paternity thing? They must have some weird pillow talk.

I imagine there was at least one round of "tell me everything you know about this guy".

Could have also been New Black Guy and his group.  They were at the prison during Rick's meltdown.  Stands to reason that somebody might have white nighted for him and explained to them all the good reasons he had for going crazy.

Nah, Tyrese and his crew had no knowledge of the Rick/Shane thing and no reason to white knight Rick since they met him once and he acted weird and kicked them out. The Gov pumped Andrea for info and she spilled it all

you misunderstood.  I mean somebody in the prison group white knighted to Tyrese when he was weirded out.  It didn't work, then he went and told the governor everything he knew.


Ahh, IC

Here's my advice to Rick and Co. :

You know the Gov and presumably his closest Lt's will be away 2 days from now at noon. Invade Woodberry in force and eliminate the scrubs who make them numerically superior while their leadership is away. Leave Woodberry burning and get back to the prison and set for the Gov's small invasion force.
 
2013-03-11 03:58:43 PM  

ObeliskToucher: BATMANATEE: ObeliskToucher: maverickzy: Let me get this straight.  Rick has no problem ignoring that poor kid who was yelling for help.  He has no problem shooting those two guys from New Jersey in the bar.  But shooting a real and credible existential threat to him and everyone he knows?  Nope, that's too much.

Weak.

Remember the comment that Rick makes when he asks Michonne to drive them back to the prison -- "I see things".

He's driving to the town, sees the hitchhiker by the side of the road, and just assumes he's another figment of his imagination. He doesn't say a word (because what if the hitchhiker *is* just another figment), and everyone else is waiting for him to say "stop" (or not).   For the trip back, he admits (only to Michonne) that seeing things isn't such a good thing for a driver -- now that he and Michonne are on good figment-sharing terms.

The look in his face when he sees the body at the side of the road on the way back definitely had some "Huh... guess that one was real" in it.

Except that Carl very clearly saw the hitchhiker too.

Yep, he twisted around in his chair to look back at him... and didn't say a word to Rick ("... everyone else is waiting for him to say "stop" (or not).", as I said.


I see what you mean now. I misread that the first time.
 
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