If you can read this, either the style sheet didn't load or you have an older browser that doesn't support style sheets. Try clearing your browser cache and refreshing the page.

(Talking Points Memo)   You all laughed, said it wasn't gonna have any effect, gonna have any sort of impact on normals. Well you were wrong, because those of us outside of D.C. are starting to feel this sequestration thing   (tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 146
    More: Followup, Dayton Daily News, civilian workers, NASCAR teams, carbon sequestration  
•       •       •

4234 clicks; posted to Politics » on 11 Mar 2013 at 8:04 AM (1 year ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



146 Comments   (+0 »)
   
View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest

Archived thread

First | « | 1 | 2 | 3 | » | Last | Show all
 
2013-03-11 08:10:39 AM
Thankfully, furlough notices aren't going out for us yet until the end of the month. There's still some hope that Congress will get their shiat together with this CR bill
 
2013-03-11 08:12:38 AM
FTFA: "From the Cronkite News: "An Arizona school superintendent said Monday that her district has already cut 40 positions because of automatic federal spending reductions and will recommend cutting 65 more and closing three schools next year to save money." "

The easy fix is to raise local property taxes to pay for these local schools.
 
2013-03-11 08:15:07 AM
Maybe next time don't rely on borrowing to finance a huge portion of your government.
 
2013-03-11 08:15:11 AM

Troy McClure: FTFA: "From the Cronkite News: "An Arizona school superintendent said Monday that her district has already cut 40 positions because of automatic federal spending reductions and will recommend cutting 65 more and closing three schools next year to save money." "

The easy fix is to raise local property taxes to pay for these local schools.


How is that fair to home owners who don't have kids?
 
2013-03-11 08:16:00 AM

Troy McClure: The easy fix is to raise local property taxes to pay for these local schools.


MA has prop 2 1/2 votes every few years to up property taxes beyond the 2 1/2% annual increase. It's only passed once in my memory, and I think a handful of times since the law was implemented in the 70s. People don't like raising taxes to save their kids.
 
2013-03-11 08:17:11 AM

MattStafford: Maybe next time don't rely on borrowing to finance a huge portion of your government.


well that didn't take long to get you in thread.
 
2013-03-11 08:18:00 AM

Free Radical: Troy McClure: FTFA: "From the Cronkite News: "An Arizona school superintendent said Monday that her district has already cut 40 positions because of automatic federal spending reductions and will recommend cutting 65 more and closing three schools next year to save money." "

The easy fix is to raise local property taxes to pay for these local schools.

How is that fair to home owners who don't have kids?


Social contract, biatches.
 
2013-03-11 08:18:48 AM

somedude210: Thankfully, furlough notices aren't going out for us yet until the end of the month. There's still some hope that Congress will get their shiat together with this CR bill


Good luck.  At least 5 republican senators have sworn to block any CR that doesn't include defunding Obamacare.
/Fair warning - that's a thinker link.
 
2013-03-11 08:19:23 AM

Free Radical: Troy McClure: FTFA: "From the Cronkite News: "An Arizona school superintendent said Monday that her district has already cut 40 positions because of automatic federal spending reductions and will recommend cutting 65 more and closing three schools next year to save money." "

The easy fix is to raise local property taxes to pay for these local schools.

How is that fair to home owners who don't have kids?


It's in everyone's best interest to not have a bunch of tards running around.

/Doesn't have kids, doesn't mind paying his property tax.
 
2013-03-11 08:21:24 AM

Free Radical: Troy McClure: FTFA: "From the Cronkite News: "An Arizona school superintendent said Monday that her district has already cut 40 positions because of automatic federal spending reductions and will recommend cutting 65 more and closing three schools next year to save money." "

The easy fix is to raise local property taxes to pay for these local schools.

How is that fair to home owners who don't have kids?


Good schools attract business (who wants to mov their operations to a place where their own kids will be hurt?), and the better educated populace results in lower crime rates.

You're gonna pay, one way or another.  You can either pony it up in taxes, or someone will steal your TV.
 
2013-03-11 08:21:34 AM
sadbad: Social contract, biatches.

Exactly. Why should people who don't have a car pay taxes to pay for roads? Why should pacifists pay for the military? Why should we pay for anything we, personally, don't use/utilize? Because doing something like that is a giant clusterfark
 
2013-03-11 08:22:08 AM

somedude210: Troy McClure: The easy fix is to raise local property taxes to pay for these local schools.

MA has prop 2 1/2 votes every few years to up property taxes beyond the 2 1/2% annual increase. It's only passed once in my memory, and I think a handful of times since the law was implemented in the 70s. People don't like raising taxes to save their kids.


We did it once in out town when a teacher fell through the floor. That was the time we decided building a new school was a good idea. Measure passed, school is built.
 
2013-03-11 08:22:23 AM

somedude210: well that didn't take long to get you in thread.


Every time these threads come up, people need to be reminded.
 
2013-03-11 08:26:36 AM

Karac: somedude210: Thankfully, furlough notices aren't going out for us yet until the end of the month. There's still some hope that Congress will get their shiat together with this CR bill

Good luck.  At least 5 republican senators have sworn to block any CR that doesn't include defunding Obamacare.
/Fair warning - that's a thinker link.


oh I know. I can only hope that there's enough that throws out the Ryan plan
 
2013-03-11 08:26:50 AM

MattStafford: Maybe next time don't rely on borrowing to finance a huge portion of your government.


You are a very strange person.
 
2013-03-11 08:27:09 AM

MattStafford: somedude210: well that didn't take long to get you in thread.

Every time these threads come up, people need to be reminded.


That guy that torments you will be arriving soon. Run.....
 
2013-03-11 08:27:15 AM

MattStafford: somedude210: well that didn't take long to get you in thread.

Every time these threads come up, people need to be reminded.


that you have a masters in economics? I suppose
 
2013-03-11 08:27:48 AM
Obviously we need more tax cuts for the rich
 
2013-03-11 08:28:00 AM

somedude210: MattStafford: somedude210: well that didn't take long to get you in thread.

Every time these threads come up, people need to be reminded.

that you have a masters in economics? I suppose


Hahahaha
 
2013-03-11 08:30:36 AM
No shiat.
 
MFK
2013-03-11 08:30:51 AM

MattStafford: somedude210: well that didn't take long to get you in thread.

Every time these threads come up, people need to be reminded.



I don't think people need to be reminded about trolls who have no idea how government works.

Seriously people. THIS is what you get when you eliminate civics and history classes in school.
 
2013-03-11 08:34:10 AM
This is what wealthy people mean by small government. They'll be just fine, Jethro. I don't know what the fark you were cheer leading this for though.
 
2013-03-11 08:34:39 AM

enry: somedude210: Troy McClure: The easy fix is to raise local property taxes to pay for these local schools.

MA has prop 2 1/2 votes every few years to up property taxes beyond the 2 1/2% annual increase. It's only passed once in my memory, and I think a handful of times since the law was implemented in the 70s. People don't like raising taxes to save their kids.

We did it once in out town when a teacher fell through the floor. That was the time we decided building a new school was a good idea. Measure passed, school is built.


Just the one teacher?  You lucky bastard.
The poorest high school in my county only got a new building in the early 2000's when the visiting team's bleachers collapsed under their families during a basketball game.  Threats of lawsuits seemed to have an encouraging effect.  The other high schools had gotten refurbishing or new construction several times, but that run-down shell dated to before the war.  The first World War.
 
2013-03-11 08:38:02 AM

Troy McClure: FTFA: "From the Cronkite News: "An Arizona school superintendent said Monday that her district has already cut 40 positions because of automatic federal spending reductions and will recommend cutting 65 more and closing three schools next year to save money." "

The easy fix is to raise local property taxes to pay for these local schools.


raise locality taxes, people in apartments shouldn't be exempt for paying for schools.
 
2013-03-11 08:38:59 AM
Do you like having paved roads? Law enforcement? Public schools? Disease control? National Defense? If you do like these things, please stop biatching about a small increase in your taxes. Schools are arguably the most important of these items and they don't pay for themselves.

/no kids
//not a teacher
 
xcv
2013-03-11 08:41:25 AM

sadbad: Free Radical: Troy McClure: FTFA: "From the Cronkite News: "An Arizona school superintendent said Monday that her district has already cut 40 positions because of automatic federal spending reductions and will recommend cutting 65 more and closing three schools next year to save money." "

The easy fix is to raise local property taxes to pay for these local schools.

How is that fair to home owners who don't have kids?

Social contract, biatches.


Social contract, I need to mention that to my former neighbors that illegally converted a 1 family house into a 3 family dwelling + multiple boarders but continue paying property tax for a single family property unit despite burdening the local public schools with at least 10 children. Not to mention increased usage of public services, roads, sewers, cops etc.
 
2013-03-11 08:43:46 AM

Girion47: Troy McClure: FTFA: "From the Cronkite News: "An Arizona school superintendent said Monday that her district has already cut 40 positions because of automatic federal spending reductions and will recommend cutting 65 more and closing three schools next year to save money." "

The easy fix is to raise local property taxes to pay for these local schools.

raise locality taxes, people in apartments shouldn't be exempt for paying for schools.


I love the smell of troll in the morning.  Smells like fail.

3/10 (almost got me... almost...)
 
2013-03-11 08:44:27 AM

MattStafford: Maybe next time don't rely on borrowing to finance a huge portion of your government.


What tangent are you going to go off on in this thread? Comparisons of education budgeting to Amish quilt manufacturing? Analogies comparing school bond programs to Las Vegas casino markers? What basic economic principles are you going to show complete ignorance of this time?

When are you going to admit you lied when you claimed to have earned a degree in economics?
 
2013-03-11 08:44:41 AM
My mom's fundie/GOP cousin is on FB all pissed off with full-bore ObamaRage because the construction/renovation project he's on, mostly gov't funded, is being put on hold as a result of the sequester right as his company had bought materials, hired people, and were set to start.  He simply never thought that supporting slashing gov't spending might circle back on him, even a little.

The schadenfreude, it hurts so good.  I've told him that this was what he was begging for.  His response of course is that it's all those OTHER gov't programs that need gutting - not this one.  Not the one he's involved with.  Surely Obama could have kept this specific plan in place, if only he weren't evil.
 
2013-03-11 08:46:16 AM

Girion47: Troy McClure: FTFA: "From the Cronkite News: "An Arizona school superintendent said Monday that her district has already cut 40 positions because of automatic federal spending reductions and will recommend cutting 65 more and closing three schools next year to save money." "

The easy fix is to raise local property taxes to pay for these local schools.

raise locality taxes, people in apartments shouldn't be exempt for paying for schools.


Are apartment building owners exempt from property taxes on the building as a whole?
 
2013-03-11 08:47:23 AM
Pay no attention to the sequester! This thread is now coconuts.
 
2013-03-11 08:47:37 AM

Tomahawk513:   

I love the smell of troll in the morning.  Smells like fail.

3/10 (almost got me... almost...)


Doh! My troll detection was bad and I feel bad.
 
2013-03-11 08:48:02 AM

GregInIndy: My mom's fundie/GOP cousin is on FB all pissed off with full-bore ObamaRage because the construction/renovation project he's on, mostly gov't funded, is being put on hold as a result of the sequester right as his company had bought materials, hired people, and were set to start.  He simply never thought that supporting slashing gov't spending might circle back on him, even a little.

The schadenfreude, it hurts so good.  I've told him that this was what he was begging for.  His response of course is that it's all those OTHER gov't programs that need gutting - not this one.  Not the one he's involved with.  Surely Obama could have kept this specific plan in place, if only he weren't evil.


In all seriousness, I'm sorry to hear about someone getting laid off(ish), that sucks no matter the causes.  That says, it's just mind boggling how disconnected these people are from reality!  It's like someone cutting off a leg to lose weight, then being surprised when they can't walk.
 
2013-03-11 08:48:06 AM

Weaver95: Obviously we need more tax cuts for the rich


yeah it seems that is the answer to everything inside the bubble.
I think we should put this ideology to the full test
Let's just give all the money in the country to one person and let them allocate it as they see fit.
 
2013-03-11 08:48:47 AM

Hobodeluxe: Weaver95: Obviously we need more tax cuts for the rich

yeah it seems that is the answer to everything inside the bubble.
I think we should put this ideology to the full test
Let's just give all the money in the country to one person and let them allocate it as they see fit.


Obama?
 
2013-03-11 08:48:52 AM

MattStafford: somedude210: well that didn't take long to get you in thread.

Every time these threads come up, people need to be reminded about coconuts.

 
2013-03-11 08:52:28 AM

xcv: sadbad: Free Radical: Troy McClure: FTFA: "From the Cronkite News: "An Arizona school superintendent said Monday that her district has already cut 40 positions because of automatic federal spending reductions and will recommend cutting 65 more and closing three schools next year to save money." "

The easy fix is to raise local property taxes to pay for these local schools.

How is that fair to home owners who don't have kids?

Social contract, biatches.

Social contract, I need to mention that to my former neighbors that illegally converted a 1 family house into a 3 family dwelling + multiple boarders but continue paying property tax for a single family property unit despite burdening the local public schools with at least 10 children. Not to mention increased usage of public services, roads, sewers, cops etc.


And you didn't contact someone from your municpality's zoning enforcement because...?
 
2013-03-11 08:54:31 AM

Tomahawk513: GregInIndy: My mom's fundie/GOP cousin is on FB all pissed off with full-bore ObamaRage because the construction/renovation project he's on, mostly gov't funded, is being put on hold as a result of the sequester right as his company had bought materials, hired people, and were set to start.  He simply never thought that supporting slashing gov't spending might circle back on him, even a little.

The schadenfreude, it hurts so good.  I've told him that this was what he was begging for.  His response of course is that it's all those OTHER gov't programs that need gutting - not this one.  Not the one he's involved with.  Surely Obama could have kept this specific plan in place, if only he weren't evil.

In all seriousness, I'm sorry to hear about someone getting laid off(ish), that sucks no matter the causes.  That says, it's just mind boggling how disconnected these people are from reality!  It's like someone cutting off a leg to lose weight, then being surprised when they can't walk.


It does suck, and I do empathize with him and I've told him so.  But I've also told him that when putting the screws to the government to cut spending one can't be too surprised when they decide to cut spending on YOU.
 
2013-03-11 08:55:29 AM

Free Radical: How is that fair to home owners who don't have kids?


home owners who don't have kids also live in society, hth
 
2013-03-11 08:57:04 AM

GregInIndy: My mom's fundie/GOP cousin is on FB all pissed off with full-bore ObamaRage because the construction/renovation project he's on, mostly gov't funded, is being put on hold as a result of the sequester right as his company had bought materials, hired people, and were set to start.  He simply never thought that supporting slashing gov't spending might circle back on him, even a little.

The schadenfreude, it hurts so good.  I've told him that this was what he was begging for.  His response of course is that it's all those OTHER gov't programs that need gutting - not this one.  Not the one he's involved with.  Surely Obama could have kept this specific plan in place, if only he weren't evil.


I've got a buddy on FB who is a Tea Party member and works at DHS as a contractor. Now that he's gotten what he wanted, spending cuts across the government, he doesn't want it anymore. Unintended consequences are a biatch, especially if you have managed to convince yourself that the only people that are affected are a bunch of welfare queens.
 
2013-03-11 08:58:36 AM

GregInIndy: Tomahawk513: GregInIndy: My mom's fundie/GOP cousin is on FB all pissed off with full-bore ObamaRage because the construction/renovation project he's on, mostly gov't funded, is being put on hold as a result of the sequester right as his company had bought materials, hired people, and were set to start.  He simply never thought that supporting slashing gov't spending might circle back on him, even a little.

The schadenfreude, it hurts so good.  I've told him that this was what he was begging for.  His response of course is that it's all those OTHER gov't programs that need gutting - not this one.  Not the one he's involved with.  Surely Obama could have kept this specific plan in place, if only he weren't evil.

In all seriousness, I'm sorry to hear about someone getting laid off(ish), that sucks no matter the causes.  That says, it's just mind boggling how disconnected these people are from reality!  It's like someone cutting off a leg to lose weight, then being surprised when they can't walk.

It does suck, and I do empathize with him and I've told him so.  But I've also told him that when putting the screws to the government to cut spending one can't be too surprised when they decide to cut spending on YOU.


Spoken like a true LIEBERAL (AKA someone with basic critical thinking skills and an elementary understanding of cause and effect)
 
2013-03-11 09:00:59 AM

Tomahawk513: LIEBERAL (AKA someone with basic critical thinking skills and an elementary understanding of cause and effect)


yes....basic...

/idiot
 
2013-03-11 09:03:15 AM
How is that fair to home owners who don't have kids?

Hah.  My wife's grandpa was once telling me how he thought the elderly, once they hit 70 or so, shouldn't have to pay any more taxes - federal, state, local.  They don't have kids in the schools any more, they don't drive much, they're low-impact and have paid into the system their whole lives.  I told him I thought it was a fine idea, long as they also didn't get to vote as well, seeing as how they weren't paying into the system any more and all.
 
2013-03-11 09:03:36 AM

MattStafford: somedude210: well that didn't take long to get you in thread.

Every time these threads come up, people need to be reminded.


That you're an economist that graduated from a top tier college?

Or that you appear to have all the knowledge found in room temperature yogurt?
 
2013-03-11 09:08:33 AM

2wolves: MattStafford: somedude210: well that didn't take long to get you in thread.

Every time these threads come up, people need to be reminded.

That you're an economist that graduated from a top tier college?

Or that you appear to have all the knowledge found in room temperature yogurt?


Hey, at least yogurt has some kind of culture....

/monday
 
2013-03-11 09:09:36 AM

MattStafford: Maybe next time don't rely on borrowing to finance a huge portion of your government.


So if these state agencies shouldn't borrow Federal funds to support key positions, projects, etc. then what should they do fund the needed positions and projects? Cut more taxes to the rich?
 
2013-03-11 09:09:45 AM
The easy fix is to raise local property taxes to pay for these local schools.

Anyone who'd call this an "easy fix" has never attempted to get local property taxes increased for anything.  People fight that s&!t tooth and nail.  It doesn't matter what it's for, how great the need, or how worth the $ - people effin' hate property tax hikes.
 
2013-03-11 09:11:46 AM
In all seriousness though, is it the intention of the press to make this as confusing as possible?

It's the republicans fault!  It's Obama's idea!  It's terrible!  It's not so bad!  It had NO EFFECT AT ALL!  Obama told you it was terrible, but it was republican's idea and it's not destroying America!  It's actually pretty bad!  Oh wow they're going to have to furlough meat inspectors at the chicken plants!

Either it's malicious, and the press is actively trying to keep people uninformed, or it's ignorant, and the press has no memories stretching back past 1995.
 
2013-03-11 09:12:12 AM
Just shooting these numbers out from memory so they may be a bit off but I've read that sequestration this year is actually only dropping the budget by $43 million. We just gave $250 million to Syria.

The cuts that people are crying about are a direct result of a fear campaign. You will realize, citizens, that any cut to government spending will be felt by you directly. No matter that it's not actually a spending cut*. Ignore that part.

*Because this is Fark and I just know some idiot will ask, it's a reduction in future spending increases. Spending will still increase. Thus it's not a cut.
 
2013-03-11 09:14:26 AM

GregInIndy: The easy fix is to raise local property taxes to pay for these local schools.

Anyone who'd call this an "easy fix" has never attempted to get local property taxes increased for anything.  People fight that s&!t tooth and nail.  It doesn't matter what it's for, how great the need, or how worth the $ - people effin' hate property tax hikes.


because it increases the chance you have for foreclosure if a job loss occurs.  If you raise the taxes taken out of payroll it's a bit easier to weather a job loss.

I wasn't trolling when I said raise locality taxes, I meant it, take the money for schools from my paycheck, don't make my mortgage higher.

/doesn't have kids
//doesn't mind paying
///just wants his house to have more of a buffer.
 
Displayed 50 of 146 comments

First | « | 1 | 2 | 3 | » | Last | Show all

View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest


This thread is archived, and closed to new comments.

Continue Farking
Submit a Link »






Report