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(USA Today)   Baby Boomer Jonah Goldberg complains that the Greatest Generation is coddled and selfish, and the cost of providing their unsustainable entitlements will bankrupt their descendants   (usatoday.com) divider line 35
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2013-03-11 08:48:42 AM
21 votes:
Jonah Goldberg mixes the wordsmithing of Bill O'Reilly with the smarminess of Bill Maher, which wouldn't be so bad except he's really on the intellectual level of Victoria Jackson.
2013-03-11 01:13:14 PM
4 votes:

Saiga410: Molavian: What makes me sick is how little buying power the $250k a year my wife and I make together has.

Puhlease.  You do not know how hard it is to make ends meet until you have a household income of 500k.


My 3 bastard gardeners want 4 weeks paid vacation. And all 4 of my scullery maids are making me pay for nookie. Even for handies in the cheese pantry.

Don't complain about your life till you have walked in the 24K gold deck shoes of the truly fabulously rich.
2013-03-11 09:59:07 AM
4 votes:
One of the egalitarian precepts that all Americans are supposed to subscribe to is the idea that one citizen isn't more worthy than another, simply by accident of birth.

There is tremendous irony in Goldberg writing those words.
2013-03-11 09:51:51 AM
4 votes:
I'm going to take very seriously a discussion on selfishness and entitlement from somebody whose every job interview has begun with him saying, "MOOOOOOOOM!!"
2013-03-11 10:09:30 AM
3 votes:

Grungehamster: I will say if they are going to demand that we balance the budget and dramatically cut spending in the next decade, it's good they'll finally admit where the vast majority of the expected growth in government spending is projected to come from.

Seriously, saying "we should be cutting our spending by hundreds of billions each year from current projected spending" while also saying "we will make sure retiring baby boomers and the military are untouched by cuts" translates to "we will eliminate all other government function to preserve the 2/3rds of projected spending those things cost us so as not have to raise taxes."


We want to cut government enough so that the only thing it can do is go into foreign countries and drown their babies in a bathtub.
2013-03-11 09:56:07 AM
3 votes:

GAT_00: 2wolves: Doughy Pantsload hasn't said anything this dumb in days. Good to see he's still being paid to dare to be stupid.

This isn't all that stupid.  How often have we seen members of the Greediest Generation screaming about how we need to stop socialism but don't you dare touch their Social Security or Medicare?  What better proof of that is there than Paul Ryan trying to "reform" Medicare by utterly destroying it for people under 55, but keeping it for the old because he didn't want to dare offend them.  We had to see Medicare totally destroyed, but they got to keep the existing system without changes.

And I still haven't mentioned how the Greediest Generation could have fixed Social Security for decades, but never did because it would have meant a very slight increase in their own taxes.  Now my generation will have to see a huge tax increase in the future to keep paying for them.


Oh, come on.  No one could have seen or anticipated this.  The population boom just snuck up on them.  They're very quiet.
2013-03-11 01:05:57 PM
2 votes:

Molavian: What makes me sick is how little buying power the $250k a year my wife and I make together has.


Puhlease.  You do not know how hard it is to make ends meet until you have a household income of 500k.
2013-03-11 11:25:13 AM
2 votes:

Brainsick: /Who is John Galt?


3.bp.blogspot.com
"Of Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy, and Ayn Rand characters, the one with the least basis in reality."
2013-03-11 10:57:49 AM
2 votes:

Saiga410: GoldSpider: Lord_Baull: The answer to your question lies in the question:
Who benefits from average household credit debt?

That has little to do with whether or not people are spending money they don't have.

dready zim: If you think that then your understanding of the graph is dillusional.

What does an income/productivity graph tell us about people's spending habits?

(hint: nothing whatsoever)

I do not understand peoples drooling level of outrage over the productivity to income gap.  Why yes me opperating an excavator does the work of 30+ guys with shovels... but that does not entitle me to 30X minimum wage earnings.  Or a codemonkey replacing/obsoleting the majority of an accounting staff.


That money rightly belongs to the heroic, hard working CEO.
2013-03-11 10:39:02 AM
2 votes:

BMulligan: Social Security funds held in trust are invested in government securities, as required by law. In that sense, I suppose, the general fund "borrows" that money. But if this state of affairs outrages you, what would you propose be done with those funds instead? Bury them in the world's largest coffee can under the White House lawn? Invest it all in pets.com? What? What other investment caries so little risk?


Lock


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2013-03-11 10:15:24 AM
2 votes:
Who cares what the fat kid from Superbad has to say about anything?
2013-03-11 10:04:54 AM
2 votes:
Wow, news from 1992 has reached the republican party.

Hey, here's some more tidbits you'd probably like to know:

1) nobody cares if you're gay and you want to get married
2) mexicans aren't the only people here illegally
3) Dick Cheney shot a man in the face. The guy apologized for being in Dick Cheney's gun's line of sight.
4) Trickle Down economics doesn't work.
2013-03-11 09:15:29 AM
2 votes:

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: I_Am_Weasel: The GOP is "going to glory" in 2014?

They're going to be Raptured?


They're in a bit of a hole...
2013-03-11 09:09:10 AM
2 votes:

I_Am_Weasel: The GOP is "going to glory" in 2014?


They're going to be Raptured?
2013-03-11 08:37:49 AM
2 votes:
Those unfamiliar with Johan Goldberg can read more here
2013-03-12 02:32:30 AM
1 votes:
www.wwe.com
Come on guys, everyone knows Goldberg is Gen X.
kgf
2013-03-11 01:35:27 PM
1 votes:
OMG a whole generation of whiney Emo's.Most of you have no idea of what you're talking about.Neither do I, but I'll throw my two cents in anyway.


Having been born in 1962, I am lumped in with the baby boomers (which is ridiculous because I have NOTHING in common with people born in 1950).I grew up in the '70's which probably means to you disco, funny clothes and lots of drugs.But what you don't know is the entire decade (as I remember it) was one long recession that rivaled the one we're just coming out of.What ended it was Ronald farking Reagan.He did it by spending huge amounts of money on weapons we didn't need or want, all because he hated communists.So by investing money he didn't have in defense, he put us all to work and destroyed the Soviet Union, but he did that by mortgaging YOUR future.


So you now sit there biatching about how bad your lives are because your grandparents are "greedy", not understanding that they've been paying into these funds for 60 or 70 years,and are just getting back what they've been promised, plus, you're sitting in your dorm room or your parent's air conditioned basement watching SpongeBob on a 60" HD LCD while you wait for your PS3 tofinish its latest update so you start another 14 hour Call of Duty session.The generation you complain about could only dream about the standard of living you enjoy which they handed to you on a silver platter.
2013-03-11 12:59:56 PM
1 votes:
What makes me sick is how little buying power the $250k a year my wife and I make together has.
2013-03-11 11:36:31 AM
1 votes:

GoldSpider: I'm sure I can make allowances for "shiat happens" stuff like medical emergencies (hence why I support single-payer). But if you're asking me to bet against the idea that your average American is stupid and impulsive with money, I'm afraid I can't take that bet.


F*ck you so very much. I'm married, 35, and a U.S. Navy Veteran not receiving assistance; my wife and I both work, I attend a vocational college part time and we make 180% of the poverty line. Know how much that was, last year? $47000. Combined. You rich-fellators make me sick. Physically, disgustingly, ill.
2013-03-11 11:22:40 AM
1 votes:

Saiga410: GoldSpider: Lord_Baull: The answer to your question lies in the question:
Who benefits from average household credit debt?

That has little to do with whether or not people are spending money they don't have.

dready zim: If you think that then your understanding of the graph is dillusional.

What does an income/productivity graph tell us about people's spending habits?

(hint: nothing whatsoever)

I do not understand peoples drooling level of outrage over the productivity to income gap.  Why yes me opperating an excavator does the work of 30+ guys with shovels... but that does not entitle me to 30X minimum wage earnings.  Or a codemonkey replacing/obsoleting the majority of an accounting staff.



I don't think you understand what it represents then. Productivity gains represent more work squeezed from each worker. What that really means is more wealth.


Those productivity gains used to fairly well match the rises in income across all income groups, but since the business community was able to buy our government out from under us (in particular one party worse than the other) they've been able to get the laws they need to protect them from having to share that wealth with anyone who worked for it.

So in the past when you got a better excavator and were able to do more work then the your company would make more money and everyone who worked for them would share in those gains over the years. This is normal, and supposed to be how our economy operates.

NOW, however, instead of getting a new excavator in many cases employers are just making us work more hours, or simply pushing us to work more to make up for others that may have been laid off or not hired in the first place, and then taking that extra cash and hanging it out in giant duffel bags to the very few at the top... largely for being born in to the upper class families that afford them the degree and contacts which allow them to perpetuate the social classes.

Those folks at the top aren't the ones needing to work harder, but they have been able to buy changes to the law that make them have to worry, much, much less about taking care of their employees. Taking care of your employees and making sure they are well-compensated used to be a civic duty... now it's seen as weakness. The incentives and pressure are on businesses to soak their vulnerable middle and lower income workers more and more every year. And the workers have no power to resist any more... Private sector unions have been decimated across the country by that bought government and the laws and taxes have become gradually more and more tilted against the poor and middle class.

There is just no one actually fighting for the poor and middle class, and there's instead a whole cadre of who Marx would have called "useful idiots" who have been tricked in to fighting against their own interests like some society-wide Stockholm Syndrome.
2013-03-11 11:17:34 AM
1 votes:
i78.photobucket.com
2013-03-11 11:03:43 AM
1 votes:

EyeballKid: JackieRabbit: before I'm accused of being anti-semitic, I got this old joke from a Jewish humor site, where all the contributors are Jewish.

It's a fine line between "satire" and "anti-Semitic."


FTFRepublican
2013-03-11 10:36:37 AM
1 votes:
www.mockpaperscissors.com
2013-03-11 10:33:59 AM
1 votes:
3.bp.blogspot.com

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, SOMEONE PLEASE FART IN MY BEARD
2013-03-11 10:21:58 AM
1 votes:
Robert Reich says, "The idea that most Americans have been living beyond their means is pure fantasy perpetrated by a small minority at the top whose means have gone through the stratosphere."
2013-03-11 10:20:10 AM
1 votes:
Sorry, Granny. Despite the fact that incomes for the rich have quadrupled in the last twenty years, we just can't seem to find the money to keep you alive.

Love,
The Beltway Folks
2013-03-11 10:14:51 AM
1 votes:
Curse you, selfish 80- and 90-year-olds!
2013-03-11 10:06:14 AM
1 votes:

Sybarite: Boomers end around '64. Born in 1969, Goldberg is firmly Generation X.


Jesus, really?  He ages about as badly as Andrew Breitbart did.
2013-03-11 10:06:11 AM
1 votes:

Kome: One of the egalitarian precepts that all Americans are supposed to subscribe to is the idea that one citizen isn't more worthy than another, simply by accident of birth.

There is tremendous irony in Goldberg writing those words.



Next thing, you'll tell me that George W. Bush, John McCain, Mitt Romney, and Rand Paul didn't bootstrap their way to success.

The only people that ask "Who's your daddy?" more than the RNC are the patrons of the RNC men's rooms.
2013-03-11 10:01:11 AM
1 votes:
More tax cuts for the wealthy is the only solution.
2013-03-11 09:53:14 AM
1 votes:

ox45tallboy: Jonah Goldberg mixes the wordsmithing of Bill O'Reilly with the smarminess of Bill Maher, which wouldn't be so bad except he's really on the intellectual level of Victoria Jackson.


That's pretty much the most apt description of Goldberg I've seen... Well done.
2013-03-11 09:51:14 AM
1 votes:
Jonah Goldberg is why we have anti-nepotism policies in most workplaces.
2013-03-11 09:06:15 AM
1 votes:
Doughy Pantsload hasn't said anything this dumb in days. Good to see he's still being paid to dare to be stupid.
2013-03-11 08:57:31 AM
1 votes:
NRO Symposium 2013: Returning the GOP to Glory in 2014 and Beyond

PowerPoint slide #1: Alienate the only voting block keeping you afloat as a national party
2013-03-11 08:29:15 AM
1 votes:
Right. Take them out back and shoot 'em.
 
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