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(Patch)   Cool: Marine returns to high school and graduates. Bad: principal denies request to wear dress blue uniform. "if people wanted to wear different things for other reasons she would feel like she would have to allow that stuff too"   (hudson-wi.patch.com) divider line 167
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2013-03-11 10:40:53 AM  

i upped my meds-up yours: JackieRabbit: Schroedinger's Glory Hole: You aren't a soldier or marine until you get your MOS, sorry homey

Not true at all. Once you swear (or affirm) your oath, you are a soldier, sailor, airman, or marine.

Marines, as they often do, take exception to this. Boot is not just their training, it's their sacred rite. You are a mere shiatbird from entry till graduation.


True enough, which is why so many recruits was out of boot. When I served, I always thought the Jarheads to be a little crazy. But I wanted to be with them when the balloon went up.
 
2013-03-11 10:41:10 AM  
But he won't take part in the ceremony unless he can wear his Marine Corps dress blues.

This guy is going to make it through boot camp?
 
2013-03-11 10:42:12 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: p51d007: I'd tell that b*tch to kiss my a$$ & wear it anyway.

No you wouldn't.


I would. But i'm into confrontation and escalation when I know I am right. I'd call every local news crew and have them follow me to graduation... The principal would fold.
 
2013-03-11 10:43:16 AM  
Class A uniforms aren't meant for attention whoring at civilian functions.
 
2013-03-11 10:44:04 AM  

The DBS: Uniform of the Day. If he's a Marine, he'll know what it means.


Smeggy Smurf: He wants to be a Marine and doesn't understand the concept of the Uniform of the Day?  He should join the Navy if he's going to be that dumb.


Came for Uniform of the Day.  Our Drill Sergeants loved coming up with bizarre uniform combinations just to make sure we were paying attention to the Uniform of the Day board.

Standard morning PT gear?  Nope.  Dress uniform trenchcoat over camouflage BDUs, with the Elmer Fudd hat.
 
2013-03-11 10:46:35 AM  

Smeggy Smurf: He wants to be a Marine and doesn't understand the concept of the Uniform of the Day?  He should join the Navy if he's going to be that dumb.


My son joined the Navy, then they sent his ass to Afghanistan with the Marines.
 
2013-03-11 10:48:09 AM  

Pockafrusta: HotWingConspiracy: p51d007: I'd tell that b*tch to kiss my a$$ & wear it anyway.

No you wouldn't.

I would. But i'm into confrontation and escalation when I know I am right. I'd call every local news crew and have them follow me to graduation... The principal would fold.


Yeah no. That's a cool plot for a 1980's high school movie though.

Just telling her to kiss your ass would be all the cover she'd need. Your umbrage parade would be all for naught.
 
2013-03-11 10:53:16 AM  

The DBS: My son joined the Navy, then they sent his ass to Afghanistan with the Marines.


If he is/was a Corpsman, please allow me to express my sincere appreciation for his service.

We love to make fun of the Navy, but you will never hear me say bad things about any doc.  (even if their solution to everything is to drink more water and change your socks.)
 
2013-03-11 10:57:31 AM  

Weaver95: We spend all that time and effort teaching kids to be mindless conformists, then expect them to be fully actualized adults once they graduate high school. We are a very strange society.


At least he's enlisting in the Marines, so maybe the 8 weeks of "mindless conforming" training will get him back to wearing the cap and gown (like the Marines suggest)...
 
2013-03-11 11:02:16 AM  
Yes, he was a Devil Doc. He got out last year when he finished his deployment. He had some serious shiat go down during his stint with the Marines. They were in Helmand during the off season, so it wasn't as bad as some of their sister units, but they still lost two guys.
 
2013-03-11 11:04:43 AM  

Smackledorfer: Class A uniforms aren't meant for attention whoring at civilian functions.


Correct. The Marine Dress Blue uniform is intended to be worn only at formal Marine or other official US Government ceremonies or in civil ceremonies in which the Corps is participating. It is not to be worn just for show. It actually isn't the Corps' class A uniform. Each branch of the service has a formal dress uniform in addition to their class A. Most enlisted people never actually wear the dress uniform, since they are not issued and are quite expensive. The Marines are an exception to this.
 
2013-03-11 11:09:10 AM  

Cheviot: It's a high school graduation. There is a uniform for high school graduations. It's a cap and gown. You wear the appropriate uniform for the event, not what you choose to wear.


that's right - appropriate uniform. Next up.....what about the transgenders, and why are WE limited to just two colors?
 
2013-03-11 11:14:25 AM  
The Marines love non-conformists. Yes-siree.

I love how ex-military just say shut up and wear the cap and gown while the chicken hawk "patriots" *as the Tea Tards call each other) drone on about "lie-brals".
 
2013-03-11 11:19:25 AM  

doglover: ADHD Librarian: I am always surprised by the special way Americans treat their marines.

Well really we only like the ones who've been shot at and/or killed people we don't like. The rest are jerks.


Only if they heal quickly, if they have to spend any time in a VA hospital, the people that put them in harms way say "fark you"
 
2013-03-11 11:19:42 AM  

trotsky: The Marines love non-conformists. Yes-siree.

I love how ex-military just say shut up and wear the cap and gown while the chicken hawk "patriots" *as the Tea Tards call each other) drone on about "lie-brals".


0/10 trolling
 
2013-03-11 11:19:43 AM  

BillCo: Let this guy wear his uniform and the next thing you know, some jerk is going to want to wear a clown suit.


That argument is in the same vein as "If we let gay people get married, then people are going to marry their toasters or their pet turtle!!"

There is room in society for common sense and use of judgement. If you don't want to allow the military uniform that's fine, but don't act like if you allow someone to wear a perfectly acceptable dress uniform to a function that it automatically means you have to allow EVERY other request regardless of merit. It's thinking like that that leads to elementary students getting expelled for wielding menacing Pop-Tarts.
 
2013-03-11 11:21:52 AM  

The WindowLicker: The DBS: My son joined the Navy, then they sent his ass to Afghanistan with the Marines.

If he is/was a Corpsman, please allow me to express my sincere appreciation for his service.

We love to make fun of the Navy, but you will never hear me say bad things about any doc.  (even if their solution to everything is to drink more water and change your socks.)


I'm a civilian, military brat, etc. and I'd gladly help you kick the shiat out of anybody disparaging a corpsman.
 
2013-03-11 11:22:42 AM  
Can you imagine the AW corp of the military? "LOOK AT MEEEEEEEEBANG!"

wouldn`t last long...
 
2013-03-11 11:26:36 AM  

mod3072: BillCo: Let this guy wear his uniform and the next thing you know, some jerk is going to want to wear a clown suit.

That argument is in the same vein as "If we let gay people get married, then people are going to marry their toasters or their pet turtle!!"

There is room in society for common sense and use of judgement. If you don't want to allow the military uniform that's fine, but don't act like if you allow someone to wear a perfectly acceptable dress uniform to a function that it automatically means you have to allow EVERY other request regardless of merit. It's thinking like that that leads to elementary students getting expelled for wielding menacing Pop-Tarts.


Congrats, you have made some of the most farked up comparisons ever seen on Fark
 
2013-03-11 11:39:38 AM  
Marine needs to learn what "uniform of the day" means.
 
2013-03-11 11:41:31 AM  

Sgt Otter: The DBS: Uniform of the Day. If he's a Marine, he'll know what it means.

Smeggy Smurf: He wants to be a Marine and doesn't understand the concept of the Uniform of the Day?  He should join the Navy if he's going to be that dumb.

Came for Uniform of the Day.  Our Drill Sergeants loved coming up with bizarre uniform combinations just to make sure we were paying attention to the Uniform of the Day board.

Standard morning PT gear?  Nope.  Dress uniform trenchcoat over camouflage BDUs, with the Elmer Fudd hat.


users.erols.com
 
2013-03-11 11:49:32 AM  

DrPainMD: Why would he want to do that? The day I got out of the service all my uniforms went into the garbage where they belonged.


Well, aren't you edgy.
 
2013-03-11 11:54:44 AM  
It's a good thing he chose a career where no one can tell him what to do.
 
2013-03-11 11:59:43 AM  

Glancing Blow: Are dress blues the class A uniform in the Marines?  In the army, dress blues meant full-dress uniforms and only lifers had those.


The Army replaced greens with blues (the new Class A looks similar to what would've been dress mess when I was in, but still has some differences. Too bad--blue was always a much better color on me than green). Maybe the Marines went the same route?
 
2013-03-11 12:18:25 PM  
Love the dress blues. My wife's ex-husband used to wear them to court dates in family court in order to impress the judge (it often worked). He tried to portray himself as a gallant soldier instead of the domestic abuser he was. Of course, his military career his primarily involved sitting at a desk. The most danger he was ever in was from a paper cut.
 
2013-03-11 12:19:24 PM  

trotsky: I love how ex-military just say shut up and wear the cap and gown while the chicken hawk "patriots" *as the Tea Tards call each other) drone on about "lie-brals".


If you love it so much then marry it!
 
2013-03-11 12:24:14 PM  
His pre-boot ass needs to shut up and do as he's told. The uniform of the day isn't your pretty dress blues with a pizza stain, pizza box and what I can only assume will be no rank. It is a cap and gown. Don't be stupid. Don't attract attention to yourself. If your new drill instructors catch wind of this crap, you may as well have prematurely gotten an Eagle, Globe, and Anchor moto tattoo as well. You will be hazed. You will not graduate boot camp on time. You are making us veterans looks like a bunch of whiny biatches to which there is no making happy, and you haven't even earned that right yet. Stop getting all these "patriots" riled up ready to "fight" for your right to wear your uniform.
 
2013-03-11 12:28:31 PM  
When RAMBO first came to the screen, the Sheriff and Deputies were all "Johnny Army Boy" and clearly telegraphed hate for servicemen.

That made no sense to me at the time.

Now I see the effing world of child abuse (means public school) is f***ing littered with military haters, anti-Americans and low lifes not fit to be found on the bottom of my Wellingtons.

Die, haters, die.
 
2013-03-11 12:29:56 PM  
Just coming at this from a logical perspective:

I always assumed dress blues were worn in place of civilian formal attire (suits and tuxedos.)

Since the appropriate attire of a HS graduation (cap and gown) is not formal attire, why would dress blues be worn in their place?
 
2013-03-11 12:37:06 PM  

rustybender: Just coming at this from a logical perspective:

I always assumed dress blues were worn in place of civilian formal attire (suits and tuxedos.)

Since the appropriate attire of a HS graduation (cap and gown) is not formal attire, why would dress blues be worn in their place?



The regulations loosely state for "Parades, ceremonies, formal/semi-formal social functions" and is pretty much at the discretion of the Marine.

However, if he is being told that he must wear cap and gown, that (to me) would override the military uniform, as it is not a military function.
 
2013-03-11 12:40:54 PM  
I'm with the principal on this one.
 
2013-03-11 12:41:20 PM  

Weaver95: We spend all that time and effort teaching kids to be mindless conformists, then expect them to be fully actualized adults once they graduate high school. We are a very strange society.


Plus the big lie that we are given as kids is, "Well, once you become an adult, then YOU can decide how to dress and act anytime you want." That is of course if you don't need a job that pays money for you to live off of and don't need to go to any common social situations (religious functions, weddings, funerals, office parties, some restaurants, ect) that may transpire.  This all includes the "self conscious" people who might be a little disturbed by what you wear in certain areas, and due to their unfamiliarity with how other humans might act and behave different than them, call the police so they can feel more at ease when the authorities apprehend your "suspicious" self.
 
2013-03-11 12:45:12 PM  
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I see a trend.
 
2013-03-11 12:47:26 PM  

KyngNothing: Weaver95: We spend all that time and effort teaching kids to be mindless conformists, then expect them to be fully actualized adults once they graduate high school. We are a very strange society.

At least he's enlisting in the Marines, so maybe the 8 weeks of "mindless conforming" training will get him back to wearing the cap and gown (like the Marines suggest)...


8 weeks? What is that? The army? You certainly can't become no Marine Core soldier in no 8 weeks.


//Gunny
 
2013-03-11 12:50:11 PM  

jl811: KyngNothing: Weaver95: We spend all that time and effort teaching kids to be mindless conformists, then expect them to be fully actualized adults once they graduate high school. We are a very strange society.

At least he's enlisting in the Marines, so maybe the 8 weeks of "mindless conforming" training will get him back to wearing the cap and gown (like the Marines suggest)...

8 weeks? What is that? The army? You certainly can't become no Marine Core soldier in no 8 weeks.


//Gunny


I'm assuming this was an on-purpose-derp, because as a "Gunny," you'd certainly know how to spell Marine Corps and that we'd never call ourselves "soldiers."
 
2013-03-11 12:56:53 PM  

The WindowLicker: We love to make fun of the Navy, but you will never hear me say bad things about any doc.  (even if their solution to everything is to drink more water and change your socks.)


They may have very good reasons for insisting that people do this.
 
2013-03-11 12:56:57 PM  
 
2013-03-11 12:57:06 PM  
I hope this story gets pinned to his DI's bulletin board at boot camp. Welcome to Uncle Sam's Misguided Children, boot. What special treatment would your snowflake majesty like today? Extra PT? But of course!
 
2013-03-11 12:58:35 PM  

SuperSecretSquirrel: jl811: KyngNothing: Weaver95: We spend all that time and effort teaching kids to be mindless conformists, then expect them to be fully actualized adults once they graduate high school. We are a very strange society.

At least he's enlisting in the Marines, so maybe the 8 weeks of "mindless conforming" training will get him back to wearing the cap and gown (like the Marines suggest)...

8 weeks? What is that? The army? You certainly can't become no Marine Core soldier in no 8 weeks.


//Gunny

I'm assuming this was an on-purpose-derp, because as a "Gunny," you'd certainly know how to spell Marine Corps and that we'd never call ourselves "soldiers."


Jument: It's not "Core", FFS.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corps


There sure are a lot of new people around today. Why, when I was a SEAL in the Marine Core, we soldiers knew our memes. Now that I'm an ex-Marine, I like to spread the love.
 
2013-03-11 12:59:20 PM  

Jument: It's not "Core", FFS.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corps


Welcome to fark. You might be new here. Or not. The core thing is a few years old now. But I still get a kick out of it. Getting boring in my old age I guess.
 
2013-03-11 01:03:19 PM  

jl811: Jument: It's not "Core", FFS.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corps

Welcome to fark. You might be new here. Or not. The core thing is a few years old now. But I still get a kick out of it. Getting boring in my old age I guess.


Huh. I did not know this was a "meme". My bad, I guess.
 
2013-03-11 01:07:54 PM  
I wouldn't be so harsh with the principal.  She is following the dress code rules set up by the school board for high school graduations.  Dress codes were put in place when student/parents pulled pranks.  Some of them, although funny, offended  others who attended and they complained and dress codes are the results.

If the snowflake doesn't want to attend his graduation because of the uniform issue, that is his decision. The principal told him what his options are and the reason.Good, he pushed hard to graduate and hopefully pass basic training on time. The flack he is trying to create over wearing his uniform is going overboard and is selfish. I can't wait for the loud pop to be heard on the first day of basic training when he finds out that the world doesn't revolve around him.
 
2013-03-11 01:09:35 PM  

Jument: jl811: Jument: It's not "Core", FFS.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corps

Welcome to fark. You might be new here. Or not. The core thing is a few years old now. But I still get a kick out of it. Getting boring in my old age I guess.

Huh. I did not know this was a "meme". My bad, I guess.


No worries, I don't quite remember how it started. There used to be some d-bag that showed up in military threads always claiming to be a "soldier" in the Marine "Core"

That said, I hope this snowflake ends up in 3rd battalion at Parris Island. They'll have a lot of fun with him.
 
2013-03-11 01:13:41 PM  

Jument: jl811: Jument: It's not "Core", FFS.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corps

Welcome to fark. You might be new here. Or not. The core thing is a few years old now. But I still get a kick out of it. Getting boring in my old age I guess.

Huh. I did not know this was a "meme". My bad, I guess.


Wife-like typing detected.
 
2013-03-11 01:20:09 PM  

SuperSecretSquirrel: jl811: KyngNothing: Weaver95: We spend all that time and effort teaching kids to be mindless conformists, then expect them to be fully actualized adults once they graduate high school. We are a very strange society.

At least he's enlisting in the Marines, so maybe the 8 weeks of "mindless conforming" training will get him back to wearing the cap and gown (like the Marines suggest)...

8 weeks? What is that? The army? You certainly can't become no Marine Core soldier in no 8 weeks.


//Gunny

I'm assuming this was an on-purpose-derp, because as a "Gunny," you'd certainly know how to spell Marine Corps and that we'd never call ourselves "soldiers."



SnarfVader: Jument: jl811: Jument: It's not "Core", FFS.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corps

Welcome to fark. You might be new here. Or not. The core thing is a few years old now. But I still get a kick out of it. Getting boring in my old age I guess.

Huh. I did not know this was a "meme". My bad, I guess.

Wife-like typing detected.



Not really new, but I guess I missed the "core" meme memo. Thanks for the heads up.
 
2013-03-11 01:21:56 PM  
Welp let's see how the marines feel about Marines not wanting to follow uniform rules in another instance:

"Initially the school denied Starr's request citing policy that states graduates wear a cap and gown. Later, the school changed it's mind and said it would allow the uniform, but the Marines ordered the graduate to wear a cap and gown for the ceremony. And that's what Starr did."

This kid has a lot to learn about the military and 'special snowflakes'.

Anyone who thinks the Marines would back him or any other Marine in this don't know much about the Marines or the military.
 
2013-03-11 01:26:48 PM  

odinsposse: It can be nice when someone bends the rules for a veteran. Expecting special treatment and then biatching when you don't get it is flat out douchebaggery. We already worship the military too much and we shouldn't come down on anyone just because they aren't willing to prostrate themselves before anyone in a uniform.


For a veteran, sure. This HS student hasn't even completed his enlistement yet.
 
2013-03-11 01:29:52 PM  

i upped my meds-up yours: The Hudson Patch comments are going both ways, with ex-military folks say shut up and wear the damn gown, and patreeotic mur'cans saying skullfark the feminazi principal.


I'm neither a Marine nor a patriotic 'Murikan (I'm too soshalest to qualify) so I'll break the tie. Shut up and wear the damn gown.

To be fair, he may not be entirely the whiny tantrum-throwing disgrace to our beloved Core that we're making him out to be:

Hamlin said he didn't want to make a big deal out of the matter, but his sister Tiffiny Bradley posted information about it on multiple Twin Cities media Facebook pages.

Sister-like typing detected.
 
2013-03-11 01:29:56 PM  
Hey, 'Marine', the rest of us have special shiat we wear to graduation, too. A pair of earrings; a hand-me-down watch...And you know what we did?

Wear it under the cap and gown like everyone else.

/Seriously, I'm with the school. It's a stupid tradition, but if you're going to biatch because you're military and therefore SO SPECIAL!!111!...nope, STFU.
 
2013-03-11 01:40:23 PM  

semiotix: i upped my meds-up yours: The Hudson Patch comments are going both ways, with ex-military folks say shut up and wear the damn gown, and patreeotic mur'cans saying skullfark the feminazi principal.

I'm neither a Marine nor a patriotic 'Murikan (I'm too soshalest to qualify) so I'll break the tie. Shut up and wear the damn gown.

To be fair, he may not be entirely the whiny tantrum-throwing disgrace to our beloved Core that we're making him out to be:

Hamlin said he didn't want to make a big deal out of the matter, but his sister Tiffiny Bradley posted information about it on multiple Twin Cities media Facebook pages.

Sister-like typing detected.


He better rope her in, or he will be the one paying. My Beloved Core will not stand for it.

/It just feels weird to type.
//years of brainwashing ruined my humor
 
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