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(Patch)   Cool: Marine returns to high school and graduates. Bad: principal denies request to wear dress blue uniform. "if people wanted to wear different things for other reasons she would feel like she would have to allow that stuff too"   (hudson-wi.patch.com) divider line 167
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2013-03-11 01:50:02 AM
it's all about the principal, subby.
 
2013-03-11 02:02:18 AM
Don't you have to complete training before you get to wear the uniform?
 
2013-03-11 02:05:04 AM
Don't you have to graduate high school, or GED at least, before you're allowed into the military?
 
2013-03-11 02:49:14 AM
Maybe we have located the source of the current pandemic of bad judgement. It's being taught in the schools.
 
2013-03-11 05:41:59 AM

doglover: Don't you have to graduate high school, or GED at least, before you're allowed into the military?


He did. He completed it early and wants to go to the ceremony, which will be held in June.
 
2013-03-11 05:54:37 AM
Why would he want to do that? The day I got out of the service all my uniforms went into the garbage where they belonged.
 
2013-03-11 06:05:11 AM

DrPainMD: Why would he want to do that? The day I got out of the service all my uniforms went into the garbage where they belonged.


He will be barely out of boot camp and most certainly not finished with his enlistment.

/My uncle threw all his uniforms into Puget Sound when he got out of the Navy back in the early 70's.
//Since I was on subs, I got rid of mine when I got out because they had that "boat smell." I wasn't dragging that around in civilian life.
///CSB
 
2013-03-11 06:26:13 AM

SnarfVader: doglover: Don't you have to graduate high school, or GED at least, before you're allowed into the military?

He did. He completed it early and wants to go to the ceremony, which will be held in June.


I never got to go to any of my graduation ceremonies for similar reasons. I was always graduatin' early with tricksy credit whoring and summer classes. I've since been to many others' ceremonies.

I don't think he's missing anything.
 
2013-03-11 06:41:29 AM
What does the military have to do with High School? I fail to understand the rage here.
 
2013-03-11 07:26:33 AM
We spend all that time and effort teaching kids to be mindless conformists, then expect them to be fully actualized adults once they graduate high school. We are a very strange society.
 
2013-03-11 07:37:45 AM
I'm as patriotic as the next guy and probably more so than most of the Fark hippies, but I have to agree with the principal.  Let this guy wear his uniform and the next thing you know, some jerk is going to want to wear a clown suit.
 
2013-03-11 07:41:03 AM
If going to the graduation ceremony is his goal, he should dress the same as his classmates.

This sounds more like he wants to wear his blues to impress everyone.

/My AF blues are for military or personal functions like my wedding. I own a civilian suit for other occasions.
 
2013-03-11 07:41:08 AM

BillCo: I'm as patriotic as the next guy and probably more so than most of the Fark hippies, but I have to agree with the principal.  Let this guy wear his uniform and the next thing you know, some jerk is going to want to wear a clown suit.


www.globalnerdy.com
 
2013-03-11 07:41:54 AM
 
2013-03-11 07:42:15 AM
Just wear your uniform under the gown and flash everybody when you get called up to stage.
 
2013-03-11 07:42:35 AM
Oh goody, another soldier demanding special treatment and then whining to the media when he doesn't get it.

Interesting that he and his family don't get the concept of a UNIFORM that everyone is expected to wear at graduation.
 
2013-03-11 07:43:18 AM

Weaver95: We spend all that time and effort teaching kids to be mindless conformists, then expect them to be fully actualized adults once they graduate high school. We are a very strange society.




Double irony when we object to them conforming to a different standard.
 
2013-03-11 07:43:27 AM

SnarfVader

DrPainMD:
Why would he want to do that? The day I got out of the service all my uniforms went into the garbage where they belonged.

He will be barely out of boot camp and most certainly not finished with his enlistment.

/My uncle threw all his uniforms into Puget Sound when he got out of the Navy back in the early 70's.
//Since I was on subs, I got rid of mine when I got out because they had that "boat smell." I wasn't dragging that around in civilian life.
///CSB


The Army boots made decent motorcycle boots and I went on countless interviews wearing the Army Class A Tan long sleeve shirt and a super wide tie I found at Goodwill. Didn't get any of those jobs. In retrospect, I guess I should have worn pants.
 
2013-03-11 07:46:16 AM
Attention whore denied prime whoring opportunity, turns to media to satiate whorish needs. Film at 11.
 
2013-03-11 07:49:14 AM
I imagine he's welcome to wear his dress blues under his cap and gown, but the cap and gown IS the uniform of a graduation ceremony.
 
2013-03-11 07:50:53 AM
www.hudsonstarobserver.com

Hudson High School Principal Laura Love. Looks like the cancellation of Scrubs devastated John C. McGinley.
 
2013-03-11 07:53:13 AM

Typhoid: Interesting that he and his family don't get the concept of a UNIFORM that everyone is expected to wear at graduation.


This, only without the preceding sentence.

The cap & gown has a symbolic purpose. If you're making a special effort to attend the ceremony, participate in it properly.
 
2013-03-11 07:53:29 AM
DrPainMD:
Why would he want to do that? The day I got out of the service all my uniforms went into the garbage where they belonged.

I hope you kept the boots.  I wore mine all winter for years, saved me a lot of money.

SnarfVader:
"boat smell."

Combination of industrial detergent, marine paint, oil and 100 other people's BO?  Just guessing here.
 
2013-03-11 07:54:02 AM
Hey, I am not a junior psycho who loves his country so much that he will blindly follow orders and kill brown people while living on government handouts. Where is my exception from rules for actually working?
 
2013-03-11 07:54:37 AM
Salute to u principle...The young man should understand he was fighting for our democracy...Where EVERYONE should be treated equal...
 
2013-03-11 07:55:32 AM
He didn't really care.  It was his sister that made a big deal out of it.

/graduated HS a year early and didn't walk
//didn't walk for my bachelor's either
///won't walk for my master's next year.
 
2013-03-11 07:56:02 AM

HotWingConspiracy: Attention whore denied prime whoring opportunity, turns to media to satiate whorish needs. Film at 11.


As a non-American, this is how it seems to me, but I am always surprised by the special way Americans treat their marines. In this case it seems to me like the principal is still being a moran, if he allows Dress Blues, does that automatically mean he has to allow peekaboo nipple dresses?
Mmmm, a problem here. A clash between American military worship and American zero tolerance. Can both sides lose?

A question though, given that American schools have no uniform, is there usually a dress code at a graduation (and would a uniform clash with that uniform?)
And, why would a principal need to know in advance what you plan to wear?
 
2013-03-11 07:56:10 AM
It can be nice when someone bends the rules for a veteran. Expecting special treatment and then biatching when you don't get it is flat out douchebaggery. We already worship the military too much and we shouldn't come down on anyone just because they aren't willing to prostrate themselves before anyone in a uniform.
 
2013-03-11 07:57:50 AM

BillCo: I'm as patriotic as the next guy and probably more so than most of the Fark hippies, but I have to agree with the principal.  Let this guy wear his uniform and the next thing you know, some jerk is going to want to wear a clown suit.


You aren't a patriot. I'm sorry but you aren't. I know you like to think you are but I've never seen anything from you that would indicate that you understand what it means to be an American citizen. You ape the words and go thru the motions but that's it.
 
2013-03-11 07:58:09 AM
I knew I wanted to be a doctor all through high school. Does that mean I could have worn scrubs to graduation, even I didn't complete the necessary training or requirements?
 
2013-03-11 07:59:06 AM

clkeagle: If going to the graduation ceremony is his goal, he should dress the same as his classmates


Exactly.

Graduation is an academic achievement.  The uniform of the day is your cap and gown.  He will have the opportunity to wear a uniform to his graduation from basic training.

Now this delicate snowflake is not even a Marine yet.  Someone needs to forward this article on to his drill instructors at the Marine Corps Recruit Depot that he will be attending.

/Marine
/
 
2013-03-11 07:59:32 AM

FarKY502: Salute to u principle...The young man should understand he was fighting for our democracy...Where EVERYONE should be treated equal...


AMERICAN EXCEPTIONALISMS! Yay!
 
2013-03-11 08:01:06 AM

No Such Agency: DrPainMD:
Why would he want to do that? The day I got out of the service all my uniforms went into the garbage where they belonged.

I hope you kept the boots.  I wore mine all winter for years, saved me a lot of money.

SnarfVader:
"boat smell."

Combination of industrial detergent, marine paint, oil and 100 other people's BO?  Just guessing here.


Living in a submarine hygiene is a joke,
you don't use shampoo and you don't use soap,
Down by the bathroom hear the 'tanky' swear:
"You'd better not waste any water in there!"

On the surface on the bottom or somewhere in between,
it really doesn't matter if you're dirty or you're clean,
Able Seaman, Chiefy, the Skipper or the Queen,
nobody showers in a submarine.

On a diesel boat you've got no water to spare,
you can't use the shower, stow the beer in there,
You're oily and grimy for a month or so,
on 'up-channel-night' to the bathroom you go.

Two basins of water and a pint beer mug,
get your lagging off and get ready to scrub,
Put some green jelly on a scratchy pad,
grit your teeth and start scrubbing like mad.

When you're red as lobster then you're ready to rinse,
some foo-foo dust will make you smell like a prince
The last of the water's just enough for your teeth
so finish up pronto make some room for the Chief.

Next evening at the disco in your sharp civvy clothes,
every girl around you starts holding her nose,
For the way that you smell there is no antidote,
they can tell that you're a sailor on a diesel boat.
 
2013-03-11 08:03:14 AM
School has rules and this guy is gonna have to follow a lot of rules when he's in the Core. Better start now.
 
2013-03-11 08:03:48 AM

The WindowLicker:
Now this delicate snowflake is not even a Marine yet.  Someone needs to forward this article on to his drill instructors at the Marine Corps Recruit Depot that he will be attending.

/Marine
/


Can they make him wear tutu all through training?
Please?
 
2013-03-11 08:04:10 AM
In my day (1970), bootcamp was not the end of training. I had another 2 months of training after boot camp. That is if he isn't assigned mess duty before it's all over.
 
2013-03-11 08:04:12 AM

Rufus Lee King: The ceremony is for everyone in the graduating class; not just for him.


I find this attitude extremely puzzling. Why this weird and obsessive urge towards conformity?
 
2013-03-11 08:05:36 AM
I'm on the school's side on this.

"If I'm not going to be able to wear my dress blues, I'm just not going to walk. It's not that important to me," Hamlin said. "It's not about the clothes, it's about the principle."

Really, boy? Just because you decided to go through the Marines boot camp and come back, you get to break the school rules?

Being in the military means you follow your commanding officer's orders. Since you're still under your high school's authority, they tell you what to do and what rules to follow.

With that attitude, I don't see this boy making it through training.
 
2013-03-11 08:07:46 AM

ADHD Librarian: I am always surprised by the special way Americans treat their marines.


Well really we only like the ones who've been shot at and/or killed people we don't like. The rest are jerks.
 
2013-03-11 08:09:36 AM

Harry Freakstorm: [www.hudsonstarobserver.com image 330x450]

Hudson High School Principal Laura Love. Looks like the cancellation of Scrubs devastated John C. McGinley.


indeed she does. and whats up with her rodential incisors and penciled in eyebrows?
 
2013-03-11 08:10:01 AM

ADHD Librarian: HotWingConspiracy: Attention whore denied prime whoring opportunity, turns to media to satiate whorish needs. Film at 11.

As a non-American, this is how it seems to me, but I am always surprised by the special way Americans treat their marines. In this case it seems to me like the principal is still being a moran, if he allows Dress Blues, does that automatically mean he has to allow peekaboo nipple dresses?
Mmmm, a problem here. A clash between American military worship and American zero tolerance. Can both sides lose?

A question though, given that American schools have no uniform, is there usually a dress code at a graduation (and would a uniform clash with that uniform?)
And, why would a principal need to know in advance what you plan to wear?


You're supposed to wear something semi-formal with the cap and gown over it. And yes, if you allow one exception you've now lost any ability to deny other exceptions. It's just the way it is here.
 
2013-03-11 08:11:26 AM
Wear what you want under your cap and gown.  It's a high school rite of passage, tradition, call it what you want.  If you want to be a non conformist, then skip the ceremony and be a non conformist.  Don't attend a conformist event if you want to be "special."
 
2013-03-11 08:11:41 AM

Public Savant: Can they make him wear tutu all through training?
Please?


No, but he will wear some other pretty terrible outfits.

He is going to spend the next few months wearing  exactly the same thing that everyone around him wears.  Even the slightest discrepancy will be cause for remedial intensive training.

He is going to have a particularly rough time because one of the main lessons that he will learn is: the Marine Corps does not really care about you as an individual; you are not remarkably special just because you went to boot camp.

As a poolee, he really does not rate to talk about the principle of wearing the uniform.
 
2013-03-11 08:12:56 AM
He might want to get used to following orders and not whining to daddy/press about every perceived slight against him.
 
2013-03-11 08:12:59 AM

kayanlau: With that attitude, I don't see this boy making it through training.


I do, I did the same thing.  Skipped my high school graduation ceremony, skipped my bachelor's ceremony, and then was going to skip my master's ceremony until my mom begged me to go so she could see me graduate something.

High school is a joke, and should be treated as such.
 
2013-03-11 08:13:36 AM

No Such Agency: DrPainMD:
Why would he want to do that? The day I got out of the service all my uniforms went into the garbage where they belonged.

I hope you kept the boots.  I wore mine all winter for years, saved me a lot of money.

SnarfVader:
"boat smell."

Combination of industrial detergent, marine paint, oil and 100 other people's BO?  Just guessing here.


Amine from the CO2 scrubbers. You get used to it underway, but with a few days away from the boat and you can really notice it on your clothes despite repeated washings. I couldn't get it out of my seabag. That was kind of a shame, too. Seabags were almost indestructible.
 
2013-03-11 08:14:26 AM

Weaver95: We spend all that time and effort teaching kids to be mindless conformists, then expect them to be fully actualized adults once they graduate high school. We are a very strange society.



We do? I thought we mostly expected them to be obedient citizen-workers who don't cause trouble and consume whatever shiny thing gets dangled in front of them.
 
2013-03-11 08:15:38 AM
Non event.

They are making an exception by allowing him to walk, it is a school not military event there is no need to make an exception for him.
 
2013-03-11 08:18:38 AM

Sybarite: Weaver95: We spend all that time and effort teaching kids to be mindless conformists, then expect them to be fully actualized adults once they graduate high school. We are a very strange society.


We do? I thought we mostly expected them to be obedient citizen-workers who don't cause trouble and consume whatever shiny thing gets dangled in front of them.


Sounds about right. We demand total obedeience and then think we are a bunch of rugged indivualists. Step outta line tho and we will crush you. Shut up and buy an iPhone ya commie!
 
2013-03-11 08:20:44 AM

SnarfVader: I couldn't get it out of my seabag.


www.venturefans.org
 
2013-03-11 08:21:45 AM
Looks like the terrorists have won
 
2013-03-11 08:21:57 AM

Weaver95: Rufus Lee King: The ceremony is for everyone in the graduating class; not just for him.

I find this attitude extremely puzzling. Why this weird and obsessive urge towards conformity?


What I find odd that a person who has joined the military is all butthurt about being asked to dress uniformly in a ceremony.
 
2013-03-11 08:23:13 AM

Weaver95: Rufus Lee King: The ceremony is for everyone in the graduating class; not just for him.

I find this attitude extremely puzzling. Why this weird and obsessive urge towards conformity?


What's the alternative?  Everyone just do whatever they want?  How is that any better?  Sometimes there is something to be said for holding a ceremony wrapped in tradition.  It brings a connection to those who came before and can make it more meaningful.
 
2013-03-11 08:26:57 AM
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Stop being an attention whore, Marine.
 
2013-03-11 08:29:39 AM
I'd be surprised if anyone were pissed at a principal for requiring everyone walking at graduation to wear a cap & gown.

As the letter from the school district states, she hasn't even <i>received a formal request</i> to allow him to wear dress blues; all he did was ask her.  So he hasn't even been officially denied permission, though it probably would be denied.

Personally, my HS had a few enlistees in its graduating class too.  Their standing practice was that everyone wore cap & gown, and a suit or dress underneath.  A military uniform was considered perfectly fine to wear under the cap & gown.  I'd bet it would be fine here too.  The guy needs to suck it up and be a big boy now.
 
2013-03-11 08:32:48 AM
I'm ok with this. I'm sure she can't just wear her HS clothes in the Marines, either. Time and place for everything.

So much for the military making men (or women, as the case may be) out of boys and girls.
 
2013-03-11 08:33:12 AM
The solution's obviously the one that was used in the similar previous Pennsylvania case - have his superior officer order him to attend his HS graduation in cap & gown.  Done.
 
2013-03-11 08:37:48 AM
Are dress blues the class A uniform in the Marines?  In the army, dress blues meant full-dress uniforms and only lifers had those.
 
2013-03-11 08:39:16 AM
Maybe when fireman visit for school safety day etc... they should have them all wear dinner jackets and ties.
or a smking jacket and ascot.     Do it for everyone.      And always request wingtips.  No exceptions.
 
2013-03-11 08:40:12 AM
Is this the school where subby learned spelling?
 
2013-03-11 08:42:23 AM
Let's first see if he gets through boot.

/eggs before hatched and all that
 
2013-03-11 08:43:06 AM
such a tool
 
2013-03-11 08:44:58 AM
I don't think this will be a problem once he gets though boot. Some one there will teach him there is a time and place to wear each one of his uniforms.

That's if he makes it though.

Thanks for your service now stop AW-ing
 
2013-03-11 08:46:09 AM
Holy fark, it's only a high school graduation. Who cares?
 
2013-03-11 08:47:18 AM
I remember being in traffic court somewhere in Virginia. It was like the Village People Cosplay Convention was in town. All the nurses stopped in to contest their tickets while on the way to work in full scrubs and the one VMI cadet had his dress uniform on. The construction worker had on a crisp,white tank top and form helmet while the Indian was dressed in his finest war dress.
 
2013-03-11 08:47:22 AM
In my experience, women in positions of power are even more sticklers for "We've always done things this way ergo we have to always do things this way." than guys are.
 
2013-03-11 08:51:24 AM
This is not a military function, he's graduating high school. Let him attention whore somewhere else. I'm sure he's proud of his accomplishment, but everyone else is there to get a diploma.
 
2013-03-11 08:51:34 AM

Weaver95: BillCo: I'm as patriotic as the next guy and probably more so than most of the Fark hippies, but I have to agree with the principal.  Let this guy wear his uniform and the next thing you know, some jerk is going to want to wear a clown suit.

You aren't a patriot. I'm sorry but you aren't. I know you like to think you are but I've never seen anything from you that would indicate that you understand what it means to be an American citizen. You ape the words and go thru the motions but that's it.


Can we also stop overworking the term "patriot"?  You can be patriotic but I think patriot needs to be reserved for the special case.  Don't get me started about calling everyone who participates in an organization or was present/maimed/killed at an event a "hero".  I'll take a quote from The Incredibles:  "when everyone is special, no one is special."

//20 years Navy...don't thank me for my service, I had a blast.
 
2013-03-11 08:52:43 AM
The Corps will get the whiney little pussy out of him and teach him the meaning of the word "rule".

/no, I didn't attend my HS graduation ceremony. Why do you ask?
 
2013-03-11 08:53:18 AM
The comments in TFA make me want to tear off my own head and eat it.
 
2013-03-11 09:03:46 AM

GT_Frog: In my day (1970), bootcamp was not the end of training. I had another 2 months of training after boot camp. That is if he isn't assigned mess duty before it's all over.


When I completed USMC boot camp in 1988, most of us took some leave before advanced training to visit home.

/...and get laid.
 
2013-03-11 09:06:35 AM

ADHD Librarian: HotWingConspiracy: Attention whore denied prime whoring opportunity, turns to media to satiate whorish needs. Film at 11.

As a non-American, this is how it seems to me, but I am always surprised by the special way Americans treat their marines. In this case it seems to me like the principal is still being a moran, if he allows Dress Blues, does that automatically mean he has to allow peekaboo nipple dresses?
Mmmm, a problem here. A clash between American military worship and American zero tolerance. Can both sides lose?

A question though, given that American schools have no uniform, is there usually a dress code at a graduation (and would a uniform clash with that uniform?)
And, why would a principal need to know in advance what you plan to wear?


Yes, there was a specific dress code at my high school graduation. Girls had to wear white dresses (we had white gowns, anything with color would have shown through) and white dress shoes; and the guys had to wear button-down shirts, tie and slacks (several of the male teachers went tie-less after lending theirs to the guys who forgot). The object of graduation is that everyone has accomplished the same thing academically, and you are honored based on that. Letting him wear his dress blues would just be giving him special treatment and taking the attention from the other students on their special day, as well.

If he graduates college, they'll probably let him wear his uniform. Mine had a special ceremony for officers and cadets.
 
2013-03-11 09:06:47 AM
It's a high school graduation. There is a uniform for high school graduations. It's a cap and gown. You wear the appropriate uniform for the event, not what you choose to wear.
 
2013-03-11 09:11:08 AM
I think subby needs to spend about 4 years in the military, and then, he might rethink his use of the "asinine" tag.  The graduate, who is not currently a Marine, and will not be a Marine until (if) he graduates from Boot Camp, has already bumped into his first object lesson at Uniformity, Order, and Discipline.  The school has a policy - the ceremony is a cap & gown ceremony, not a cap & gown and whateverthehell else you feel like wearing ceremony.  Follow orders - without argument.  If he ever wants to graduate boot camp that'll become second nature.

Now, I don't believe that there's a policy against what the guy wears underneath the cap & gown.  Wear the blues underneath, and proudly wear your service uniform after the school requirements have been met.
 
2013-03-11 09:13:40 AM

Cheviot: It's a high school graduation. There is a uniform for high school graduations. It's a cap and gown. You wear the appropriate uniform for the event, not what you choose to wear.


Fortunately for this kid, the Marine Corps has no such foolish rules and regulations. They will let him sleep in on Sunday, too.
 
2013-03-11 09:18:04 AM
Can't he just rip off her head and piss down her neck while hollering oorah?
 
2013-03-11 09:21:26 AM

SnarfVader: DrPainMD: Why would he want to do that? The day I got out of the service all my uniforms went into the garbage where they belonged.

He will be barely out of boot camp and most certainly not finished with his enlistment.

/My uncle threw all his uniforms into Puget Sound when he got out of the Navy back in the early 70's.
//Since I was on subs, I got rid of mine when I got out because they had that "boat smell." I wasn't dragging that around in civilian life.
///CSB


I still kept a one uniform (not sure why). Funny thing though, when you get out and wake up that first morning and say "wait, I don't have to get up this early and go do PT"...and make that a habit for about a year...you'll find that all of the sudden those uniforms don't quite fit like they used to for some reason.
 
2013-03-11 09:22:30 AM
I'll sometimes ask for special treatment (does your movie theater offer a military discount?) but it's rare and when I'm informed the establishment doesn't provide it I don't get butthurt and run to the media.  Just because I sat on a base for a year doing nothing doesn't mean the rules don't apply to me.  Marine should be grateful that he is being allowed to attend the ceremony, not raise a shiatstorm.
 
2013-03-11 09:26:00 AM

Weaver95: We spend all that time and effort teaching kids to be mindless conformists, then expect them to be fully actualized adults once they graduate high school. We are a very strange society.


I question that.  There are now "Parent's basement acceptance" circle jerks among the overgrown children who can't manage living on their own, telling each other why it is so cool to save money and how it isn't their fault anyway because all the boomers took their jerbs.   Now they get to stay on mommy and daddy's insurance until they are 25.

We no longer encourage independence and individuality in our children any more, for the most part.

I generalize.  But I also have the wisdom of decades of observation.
 
2013-03-11 09:30:52 AM
just because you're in the military that doesn't mean you get every rule waived for you.
 
2013-03-11 09:32:27 AM
At my high school graduation we had to wear white tuxes.  We looked like a group of Leisure Suit Larrys.
 
2013-03-11 09:34:09 AM

BillCo: I'm as patriotic as the next guy and probably more so than most of the Fark hippies, but I have to agree with the principal.  Let this guy wear his uniform and the next thing you know, some jerk is going to want to wear a clown suit.


Or a Priest

/Think of the children
 
2013-03-11 09:37:30 AM
Military uniforms are dangerous. They shut down a school district last week when a soldier went to a school in uniform to pick up his transcripts. Think of the children for once why dont you.
 
2013-03-11 09:41:04 AM
So, someone who joined a conformist institution want to use its uniform in order to be a non-conformist?
 
2013-03-11 09:52:09 AM
Military dress uniform at prom, where any formal wear is accepted? GOOD.
Military dress uniform at a graduation ceremony where a specific ceremony uniform is required? BAD.
 
2013-03-11 09:52:14 AM

milowitz: School has rules and this guy is gonna have to follow a lot of rules when he's in the Core. Better start now.


THIS.

If he wants to be a special snowflake exempt from the rules all his peers face then he's really going into the wrong line of work.
 
2013-03-11 09:58:54 AM

awshat: I think subby needs to spend about 4 years in the military, and then, he might rethink his use of the "asinine" tag.


It always seems like the people who have had nothing to do with the military are the ones who cry "patriotism!" and "respect the troops!" the loudest.  Meanwhile, the ones who served even 4 years, while maintaining a healthy respect for those who have as well, will also be the first to point out that military members can also be complete jackasses and do not automatically deserve unmitigated respect.
 
2013-03-11 09:59:56 AM

Weaver95: We spend all that time and effort teaching kids to be mindless conformists, then expect them to be fully actualized adults once they graduate high school. We are a very strange society.


Well, mindless conformity comes in damn handy when you're going into the Corps.
 
2013-03-11 10:06:30 AM

BillCo: I'm as patriotic as the next guy and probably more so than most of the Fark hippies, but I have to agree with the principal.  Let this guy wear his uniform and the next thing you know, some jerk is going to want to wear a clown suit.


You're assuming that some jerk doesn't already want to wear his clown suit.

That's a pretty big assumption.
 
2013-03-11 10:06:31 AM
Uniform of the Day. If he's a Marine, he'll know what it means.
 
2013-03-11 10:07:02 AM
You aren't a soldier or marine until you get your MOS, sorry homey, just graduating basic doesn't cut it.  Unless we can actually do something with you other than area beautification, you can suck a dick.  Also, this kid is obviously a giant homo and is going to get absolutely eviscerated by his first unit.
 
2013-03-11 10:17:16 AM
The Hudson Patch comments are going both ways, with ex-military folks say shut up and wear the damn gown, and patreeotic mur'cans saying skullfark the feminazi principal.
 
2013-03-11 10:21:41 AM

Schroedinger's Glory Hole: You aren't a soldier or marine until you get your MOS, sorry homey


Not true at all. Once you swear (or affirm) your oath, you are a soldier, sailor, airman, or marine. Boot is basic military training. Advanced Individual Training (or Tech School, as the Navy and USAF call it), is supplemental. It is not absolutely required in an oh shiat situation.
 
2013-03-11 10:23:16 AM
If he has a problem with obeying pointless, arbitrary regulations...then a military career might not be for him.
 
2013-03-11 10:26:24 AM

JackieRabbit: Schroedinger's Glory Hole: You aren't a soldier or marine until you get your MOS, sorry homey

Not true at all. Once you swear (or affirm) your oath, you are a soldier, sailor, airman, or marine.


Marines, as they often do, take exception to this. Boot is not just their training, it's their sacred rite. You are a mere shiatbird from entry till graduation.
 
2013-03-11 10:27:21 AM
He wants to be a Marine and doesn't understand the concept of the Uniform of the Day?  He should join the Navy if he's going to be that dumb.
 
2013-03-11 10:28:17 AM
Subby needs more coffee. The article doesn't say the guy returned to high school. It says he finished early.
 
2013-03-11 10:31:38 AM
I'd tell that b*tch to kiss my a$$ & wear it anyway.
 
2013-03-11 10:35:29 AM

p51d007: I'd tell that b*tch to kiss my a$$ & wear it anyway.


No you wouldn't.
 
2013-03-11 10:39:21 AM
SSDD. More power tripping school administrators making stupid decisions. Happened at my school during my graduation. Some dude had the credits to graduate early.... Went to boot camp, made it back in time to walk with the senior class in his dress blues. We thought nothing of it... Until now.
 
2013-03-11 10:40:53 AM

i upped my meds-up yours: JackieRabbit: Schroedinger's Glory Hole: You aren't a soldier or marine until you get your MOS, sorry homey

Not true at all. Once you swear (or affirm) your oath, you are a soldier, sailor, airman, or marine.

Marines, as they often do, take exception to this. Boot is not just their training, it's their sacred rite. You are a mere shiatbird from entry till graduation.


True enough, which is why so many recruits was out of boot. When I served, I always thought the Jarheads to be a little crazy. But I wanted to be with them when the balloon went up.
 
2013-03-11 10:41:10 AM
But he won't take part in the ceremony unless he can wear his Marine Corps dress blues.

This guy is going to make it through boot camp?
 
2013-03-11 10:42:12 AM

HotWingConspiracy: p51d007: I'd tell that b*tch to kiss my a$$ & wear it anyway.

No you wouldn't.


I would. But i'm into confrontation and escalation when I know I am right. I'd call every local news crew and have them follow me to graduation... The principal would fold.
 
2013-03-11 10:43:16 AM
Class A uniforms aren't meant for attention whoring at civilian functions.
 
2013-03-11 10:44:04 AM

The DBS: Uniform of the Day. If he's a Marine, he'll know what it means.


Smeggy Smurf: He wants to be a Marine and doesn't understand the concept of the Uniform of the Day?  He should join the Navy if he's going to be that dumb.


Came for Uniform of the Day.  Our Drill Sergeants loved coming up with bizarre uniform combinations just to make sure we were paying attention to the Uniform of the Day board.

Standard morning PT gear?  Nope.  Dress uniform trenchcoat over camouflage BDUs, with the Elmer Fudd hat.
 
2013-03-11 10:46:35 AM

Smeggy Smurf: He wants to be a Marine and doesn't understand the concept of the Uniform of the Day?  He should join the Navy if he's going to be that dumb.


My son joined the Navy, then they sent his ass to Afghanistan with the Marines.
 
2013-03-11 10:48:09 AM

Pockafrusta: HotWingConspiracy: p51d007: I'd tell that b*tch to kiss my a$$ & wear it anyway.

No you wouldn't.

I would. But i'm into confrontation and escalation when I know I am right. I'd call every local news crew and have them follow me to graduation... The principal would fold.


Yeah no. That's a cool plot for a 1980's high school movie though.

Just telling her to kiss your ass would be all the cover she'd need. Your umbrage parade would be all for naught.
 
2013-03-11 10:53:16 AM

The DBS: My son joined the Navy, then they sent his ass to Afghanistan with the Marines.


If he is/was a Corpsman, please allow me to express my sincere appreciation for his service.

We love to make fun of the Navy, but you will never hear me say bad things about any doc.  (even if their solution to everything is to drink more water and change your socks.)
 
2013-03-11 10:57:31 AM

Weaver95: We spend all that time and effort teaching kids to be mindless conformists, then expect them to be fully actualized adults once they graduate high school. We are a very strange society.


At least he's enlisting in the Marines, so maybe the 8 weeks of "mindless conforming" training will get him back to wearing the cap and gown (like the Marines suggest)...
 
2013-03-11 11:02:16 AM
Yes, he was a Devil Doc. He got out last year when he finished his deployment. He had some serious shiat go down during his stint with the Marines. They were in Helmand during the off season, so it wasn't as bad as some of their sister units, but they still lost two guys.
 
2013-03-11 11:04:43 AM

Smackledorfer: Class A uniforms aren't meant for attention whoring at civilian functions.


Correct. The Marine Dress Blue uniform is intended to be worn only at formal Marine or other official US Government ceremonies or in civil ceremonies in which the Corps is participating. It is not to be worn just for show. It actually isn't the Corps' class A uniform. Each branch of the service has a formal dress uniform in addition to their class A. Most enlisted people never actually wear the dress uniform, since they are not issued and are quite expensive. The Marines are an exception to this.
 
2013-03-11 11:09:10 AM

Cheviot: It's a high school graduation. There is a uniform for high school graduations. It's a cap and gown. You wear the appropriate uniform for the event, not what you choose to wear.


that's right - appropriate uniform. Next up.....what about the transgenders, and why are WE limited to just two colors?
 
2013-03-11 11:14:25 AM
The Marines love non-conformists. Yes-siree.

I love how ex-military just say shut up and wear the cap and gown while the chicken hawk "patriots" *as the Tea Tards call each other) drone on about "lie-brals".
 
2013-03-11 11:19:25 AM

doglover: ADHD Librarian: I am always surprised by the special way Americans treat their marines.

Well really we only like the ones who've been shot at and/or killed people we don't like. The rest are jerks.


Only if they heal quickly, if they have to spend any time in a VA hospital, the people that put them in harms way say "fark you"
 
2013-03-11 11:19:42 AM

trotsky: The Marines love non-conformists. Yes-siree.

I love how ex-military just say shut up and wear the cap and gown while the chicken hawk "patriots" *as the Tea Tards call each other) drone on about "lie-brals".


0/10 trolling
 
2013-03-11 11:19:43 AM

BillCo: Let this guy wear his uniform and the next thing you know, some jerk is going to want to wear a clown suit.


That argument is in the same vein as "If we let gay people get married, then people are going to marry their toasters or their pet turtle!!"

There is room in society for common sense and use of judgement. If you don't want to allow the military uniform that's fine, but don't act like if you allow someone to wear a perfectly acceptable dress uniform to a function that it automatically means you have to allow EVERY other request regardless of merit. It's thinking like that that leads to elementary students getting expelled for wielding menacing Pop-Tarts.
 
2013-03-11 11:21:52 AM

The WindowLicker: The DBS: My son joined the Navy, then they sent his ass to Afghanistan with the Marines.

If he is/was a Corpsman, please allow me to express my sincere appreciation for his service.

We love to make fun of the Navy, but you will never hear me say bad things about any doc.  (even if their solution to everything is to drink more water and change your socks.)


I'm a civilian, military brat, etc. and I'd gladly help you kick the shiat out of anybody disparaging a corpsman.
 
2013-03-11 11:22:42 AM
Can you imagine the AW corp of the military? "LOOK AT MEEEEEEEEBANG!"

wouldn`t last long...
 
2013-03-11 11:26:36 AM

mod3072: BillCo: Let this guy wear his uniform and the next thing you know, some jerk is going to want to wear a clown suit.

That argument is in the same vein as "If we let gay people get married, then people are going to marry their toasters or their pet turtle!!"

There is room in society for common sense and use of judgement. If you don't want to allow the military uniform that's fine, but don't act like if you allow someone to wear a perfectly acceptable dress uniform to a function that it automatically means you have to allow EVERY other request regardless of merit. It's thinking like that that leads to elementary students getting expelled for wielding menacing Pop-Tarts.


Congrats, you have made some of the most farked up comparisons ever seen on Fark
 
2013-03-11 11:39:38 AM
Marine needs to learn what "uniform of the day" means.
 
2013-03-11 11:41:31 AM

Sgt Otter: The DBS: Uniform of the Day. If he's a Marine, he'll know what it means.

Smeggy Smurf: He wants to be a Marine and doesn't understand the concept of the Uniform of the Day?  He should join the Navy if he's going to be that dumb.

Came for Uniform of the Day.  Our Drill Sergeants loved coming up with bizarre uniform combinations just to make sure we were paying attention to the Uniform of the Day board.

Standard morning PT gear?  Nope.  Dress uniform trenchcoat over camouflage BDUs, with the Elmer Fudd hat.


users.erols.com
 
2013-03-11 11:49:32 AM

DrPainMD: Why would he want to do that? The day I got out of the service all my uniforms went into the garbage where they belonged.


Well, aren't you edgy.
 
2013-03-11 11:54:44 AM
It's a good thing he chose a career where no one can tell him what to do.
 
2013-03-11 11:59:43 AM

Glancing Blow: Are dress blues the class A uniform in the Marines?  In the army, dress blues meant full-dress uniforms and only lifers had those.


The Army replaced greens with blues (the new Class A looks similar to what would've been dress mess when I was in, but still has some differences. Too bad--blue was always a much better color on me than green). Maybe the Marines went the same route?
 
2013-03-11 12:18:25 PM
Love the dress blues. My wife's ex-husband used to wear them to court dates in family court in order to impress the judge (it often worked). He tried to portray himself as a gallant soldier instead of the domestic abuser he was. Of course, his military career his primarily involved sitting at a desk. The most danger he was ever in was from a paper cut.
 
2013-03-11 12:19:24 PM

trotsky: I love how ex-military just say shut up and wear the cap and gown while the chicken hawk "patriots" *as the Tea Tards call each other) drone on about "lie-brals".


If you love it so much then marry it!
 
2013-03-11 12:24:14 PM
His pre-boot ass needs to shut up and do as he's told. The uniform of the day isn't your pretty dress blues with a pizza stain, pizza box and what I can only assume will be no rank. It is a cap and gown. Don't be stupid. Don't attract attention to yourself. If your new drill instructors catch wind of this crap, you may as well have prematurely gotten an Eagle, Globe, and Anchor moto tattoo as well. You will be hazed. You will not graduate boot camp on time. You are making us veterans looks like a bunch of whiny biatches to which there is no making happy, and you haven't even earned that right yet. Stop getting all these "patriots" riled up ready to "fight" for your right to wear your uniform.
 
2013-03-11 12:28:31 PM
When RAMBO first came to the screen, the Sheriff and Deputies were all "Johnny Army Boy" and clearly telegraphed hate for servicemen.

That made no sense to me at the time.

Now I see the effing world of child abuse (means public school) is f***ing littered with military haters, anti-Americans and low lifes not fit to be found on the bottom of my Wellingtons.

Die, haters, die.
 
2013-03-11 12:29:56 PM
Just coming at this from a logical perspective:

I always assumed dress blues were worn in place of civilian formal attire (suits and tuxedos.)

Since the appropriate attire of a HS graduation (cap and gown) is not formal attire, why would dress blues be worn in their place?
 
2013-03-11 12:37:06 PM

rustybender: Just coming at this from a logical perspective:

I always assumed dress blues were worn in place of civilian formal attire (suits and tuxedos.)

Since the appropriate attire of a HS graduation (cap and gown) is not formal attire, why would dress blues be worn in their place?



The regulations loosely state for "Parades, ceremonies, formal/semi-formal social functions" and is pretty much at the discretion of the Marine.

However, if he is being told that he must wear cap and gown, that (to me) would override the military uniform, as it is not a military function.
 
2013-03-11 12:40:54 PM
I'm with the principal on this one.
 
2013-03-11 12:41:20 PM

Weaver95: We spend all that time and effort teaching kids to be mindless conformists, then expect them to be fully actualized adults once they graduate high school. We are a very strange society.


Plus the big lie that we are given as kids is, "Well, once you become an adult, then YOU can decide how to dress and act anytime you want." That is of course if you don't need a job that pays money for you to live off of and don't need to go to any common social situations (religious functions, weddings, funerals, office parties, some restaurants, ect) that may transpire.  This all includes the "self conscious" people who might be a little disturbed by what you wear in certain areas, and due to their unfamiliarity with how other humans might act and behave different than them, call the police so they can feel more at ease when the authorities apprehend your "suspicious" self.
 
2013-03-11 12:45:12 PM
blog.syracuse.com

thumbs.dreamstime.com

I see a trend.
 
2013-03-11 12:47:26 PM

KyngNothing: Weaver95: We spend all that time and effort teaching kids to be mindless conformists, then expect them to be fully actualized adults once they graduate high school. We are a very strange society.

At least he's enlisting in the Marines, so maybe the 8 weeks of "mindless conforming" training will get him back to wearing the cap and gown (like the Marines suggest)...


8 weeks? What is that? The army? You certainly can't become no Marine Core soldier in no 8 weeks.


//Gunny
 
2013-03-11 12:50:11 PM

jl811: KyngNothing: Weaver95: We spend all that time and effort teaching kids to be mindless conformists, then expect them to be fully actualized adults once they graduate high school. We are a very strange society.

At least he's enlisting in the Marines, so maybe the 8 weeks of "mindless conforming" training will get him back to wearing the cap and gown (like the Marines suggest)...

8 weeks? What is that? The army? You certainly can't become no Marine Core soldier in no 8 weeks.


//Gunny


I'm assuming this was an on-purpose-derp, because as a "Gunny," you'd certainly know how to spell Marine Corps and that we'd never call ourselves "soldiers."
 
2013-03-11 12:56:53 PM

The WindowLicker: We love to make fun of the Navy, but you will never hear me say bad things about any doc.  (even if their solution to everything is to drink more water and change your socks.)


They may have very good reasons for insisting that people do this.
 
2013-03-11 12:56:57 PM
 
2013-03-11 12:57:06 PM
I hope this story gets pinned to his DI's bulletin board at boot camp. Welcome to Uncle Sam's Misguided Children, boot. What special treatment would your snowflake majesty like today? Extra PT? But of course!
 
2013-03-11 12:58:35 PM

SuperSecretSquirrel: jl811: KyngNothing: Weaver95: We spend all that time and effort teaching kids to be mindless conformists, then expect them to be fully actualized adults once they graduate high school. We are a very strange society.

At least he's enlisting in the Marines, so maybe the 8 weeks of "mindless conforming" training will get him back to wearing the cap and gown (like the Marines suggest)...

8 weeks? What is that? The army? You certainly can't become no Marine Core soldier in no 8 weeks.


//Gunny

I'm assuming this was an on-purpose-derp, because as a "Gunny," you'd certainly know how to spell Marine Corps and that we'd never call ourselves "soldiers."


Jument: It's not "Core", FFS.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corps


There sure are a lot of new people around today. Why, when I was a SEAL in the Marine Core, we soldiers knew our memes. Now that I'm an ex-Marine, I like to spread the love.
 
2013-03-11 12:59:20 PM

Jument: It's not "Core", FFS.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corps


Welcome to fark. You might be new here. Or not. The core thing is a few years old now. But I still get a kick out of it. Getting boring in my old age I guess.
 
2013-03-11 01:03:19 PM

jl811: Jument: It's not "Core", FFS.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corps

Welcome to fark. You might be new here. Or not. The core thing is a few years old now. But I still get a kick out of it. Getting boring in my old age I guess.


Huh. I did not know this was a "meme". My bad, I guess.
 
2013-03-11 01:07:54 PM
I wouldn't be so harsh with the principal.  She is following the dress code rules set up by the school board for high school graduations.  Dress codes were put in place when student/parents pulled pranks.  Some of them, although funny, offended  others who attended and they complained and dress codes are the results.

If the snowflake doesn't want to attend his graduation because of the uniform issue, that is his decision. The principal told him what his options are and the reason.Good, he pushed hard to graduate and hopefully pass basic training on time. The flack he is trying to create over wearing his uniform is going overboard and is selfish. I can't wait for the loud pop to be heard on the first day of basic training when he finds out that the world doesn't revolve around him.
 
2013-03-11 01:09:35 PM

Jument: jl811: Jument: It's not "Core", FFS.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corps

Welcome to fark. You might be new here. Or not. The core thing is a few years old now. But I still get a kick out of it. Getting boring in my old age I guess.

Huh. I did not know this was a "meme". My bad, I guess.


No worries, I don't quite remember how it started. There used to be some d-bag that showed up in military threads always claiming to be a "soldier" in the Marine "Core"

That said, I hope this snowflake ends up in 3rd battalion at Parris Island. They'll have a lot of fun with him.
 
2013-03-11 01:13:41 PM

Jument: jl811: Jument: It's not "Core", FFS.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corps

Welcome to fark. You might be new here. Or not. The core thing is a few years old now. But I still get a kick out of it. Getting boring in my old age I guess.

Huh. I did not know this was a "meme". My bad, I guess.


Wife-like typing detected.
 
2013-03-11 01:20:09 PM

SuperSecretSquirrel: jl811: KyngNothing: Weaver95: We spend all that time and effort teaching kids to be mindless conformists, then expect them to be fully actualized adults once they graduate high school. We are a very strange society.

At least he's enlisting in the Marines, so maybe the 8 weeks of "mindless conforming" training will get him back to wearing the cap and gown (like the Marines suggest)...

8 weeks? What is that? The army? You certainly can't become no Marine Core soldier in no 8 weeks.


//Gunny

I'm assuming this was an on-purpose-derp, because as a "Gunny," you'd certainly know how to spell Marine Corps and that we'd never call ourselves "soldiers."



SnarfVader: Jument: jl811: Jument: It's not "Core", FFS.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corps

Welcome to fark. You might be new here. Or not. The core thing is a few years old now. But I still get a kick out of it. Getting boring in my old age I guess.

Huh. I did not know this was a "meme". My bad, I guess.

Wife-like typing detected.



Not really new, but I guess I missed the "core" meme memo. Thanks for the heads up.
 
2013-03-11 01:21:56 PM
Welp let's see how the marines feel about Marines not wanting to follow uniform rules in another instance:

"Initially the school denied Starr's request citing policy that states graduates wear a cap and gown. Later, the school changed it's mind and said it would allow the uniform, but the Marines ordered the graduate to wear a cap and gown for the ceremony. And that's what Starr did."

This kid has a lot to learn about the military and 'special snowflakes'.

Anyone who thinks the Marines would back him or any other Marine in this don't know much about the Marines or the military.
 
2013-03-11 01:26:48 PM

odinsposse: It can be nice when someone bends the rules for a veteran. Expecting special treatment and then biatching when you don't get it is flat out douchebaggery. We already worship the military too much and we shouldn't come down on anyone just because they aren't willing to prostrate themselves before anyone in a uniform.


For a veteran, sure. This HS student hasn't even completed his enlistement yet.
 
2013-03-11 01:29:52 PM

i upped my meds-up yours: The Hudson Patch comments are going both ways, with ex-military folks say shut up and wear the damn gown, and patreeotic mur'cans saying skullfark the feminazi principal.


I'm neither a Marine nor a patriotic 'Murikan (I'm too soshalest to qualify) so I'll break the tie. Shut up and wear the damn gown.

To be fair, he may not be entirely the whiny tantrum-throwing disgrace to our beloved Core that we're making him out to be:

Hamlin said he didn't want to make a big deal out of the matter, but his sister Tiffiny Bradley posted information about it on multiple Twin Cities media Facebook pages.

Sister-like typing detected.
 
2013-03-11 01:29:56 PM
Hey, 'Marine', the rest of us have special shiat we wear to graduation, too. A pair of earrings; a hand-me-down watch...And you know what we did?

Wear it under the cap and gown like everyone else.

/Seriously, I'm with the school. It's a stupid tradition, but if you're going to biatch because you're military and therefore SO SPECIAL!!111!...nope, STFU.
 
2013-03-11 01:40:23 PM

semiotix: i upped my meds-up yours: The Hudson Patch comments are going both ways, with ex-military folks say shut up and wear the damn gown, and patreeotic mur'cans saying skullfark the feminazi principal.

I'm neither a Marine nor a patriotic 'Murikan (I'm too soshalest to qualify) so I'll break the tie. Shut up and wear the damn gown.

To be fair, he may not be entirely the whiny tantrum-throwing disgrace to our beloved Core that we're making him out to be:

Hamlin said he didn't want to make a big deal out of the matter, but his sister Tiffiny Bradley posted information about it on multiple Twin Cities media Facebook pages.

Sister-like typing detected.


He better rope her in, or he will be the one paying. My Beloved Core will not stand for it.

/It just feels weird to type.
//years of brainwashing ruined my humor
 
2013-03-11 01:52:18 PM
he asked...they said no.... end of case.
 
2013-03-11 01:54:30 PM
If it's an appropriate type of wear for a semi-formal event, he should be able to wear it...

Under his cap and gown.
 
2013-03-11 02:02:14 PM

pciszek: The WindowLicker: We love to make fun of the Navy, but you will never hear me say bad things about any doc.  (even if their solution to everything is to drink more water and change your socks.)

They may have very good reasons for insisting that people do this.


Of course they do.  Most common Marine ailments can be cured by hydration and hygene.  However...

terminallance.com

/Terminal lance is a brilliant webcomic, but much of the humor is best appreciated by Marines...
 
2013-03-11 02:24:25 PM

Hack Patooey: Living in a submarine hygiene is a joke,
you don't use shampoo and you don't use soap,


LOL, man I wish my step dad was still alive, he'd have loved this. 26 years in diesel boats. When he retired he was COB, and a plank-owner on USS Pickerel, SSN-524.

adjunct.diodon349.com
 
2013-03-11 02:30:18 PM
FTFA: "If I'm not going to be able to wear my dress blues, I'm just not going to walk. It's not that important to me," Hamlin said

Well if he doesn't care, and the principle doesn't care, and I know I certainly don't care; then why was this article created?

IN OTHER NEWS!!!! -- TUMBLEWEED ROLLS DOWN LONE TEXAS ROAD
 
2013-03-11 02:36:57 PM
for once I am with a principal on something


(seeing a military uniform might traumatize those youths)
 
2013-03-11 02:38:58 PM

BillCo: I'm as patriotic as the next guy and probably more so than most of the Fark hippies, but I have to agree with the principal.  Let this guy wear his uniform and the next thing you know, some jerk is going to want to wear a clown suit.


Please present the Clown Suit Code of Conduct?
 
2013-03-11 03:06:20 PM

No Such Agency: DrPainMD:
Why would he want to do that? The day I got out of the service all my uniforms went into the garbage where they belonged.

I hope you kept the boots.  I wore mine all winter for years, saved me a lot of money.

SnarfVader:
"boat smell."

Combination of industrial detergent, marine paint, oil and 100 other people's BO?  Just guessing here.


and semen Seamen..so many semen Seamen
 
2013-03-11 03:19:55 PM

clkeagle: If going to the graduation ceremony is his goal, he should dress the same as his classmates.

This sounds more like he wants to wear his blues to impress everyone.

/My AF blues are for military or personal functions like my wedding. I own a civilian suit for other occasions.


This is exactly what he's trying to do

/former Army
 
2013-03-11 04:04:56 PM
This kid is going to be absolutely eaten alive in boot camp (which I believe he starts today). Talk about putting the carriage before the horse. He's proud of something he hasn't even done yet and trying to showboat on top of it. I love how actual marines and vets and officers are in unison about how this should be handled and ignorant self-appointed patriots completely disagree and still think they are doing the military a favor by worshiping it like a cult. Poor guy has no idea what he has done. His sister put the final nail in his coffin. I wouldn't be surprised at all if he is forced out, gets the shiat kicked out of him, or trys to take his own life as everyone from this point on in his career sees what he has done. My my my...
 
2013-03-11 04:17:22 PM
Attention Whore/Welfare Seeking Marine- check
School Policy which Marines support- check
Crybaby Marine- check

"but there's at least one case where the Marine Corps has stepped in to order a Marine to wear a cap and gown. "

""We encourage Marines to follow the rules of the organization that they're working with, especially when it comes to community relations events. If there are rules and guidelines that community events have as far as uniformity and things of that nature, then we encourage Marines to abide by those rules."

Marine being unable to follow rules, goes off to war, comes back feeling entitled for protecting "our" freedoms with huge problems with authority- check check check

So much fail. Subby is a fail.
 
2013-03-11 05:15:02 PM

The DBS: Yes, he was a Devil Doc. He got out last year when he finished his deployment. He had some serious shiat go down during his stint with the Marines. They were in Helmand during the off season, so it wasn't as bad as some of their sister units, but they still lost two guys.


Thanks.

/dumb enough to do it twice
//eight years but it paid for college
 
2013-03-11 05:22:27 PM
While i understand the sentiment, you are dealing with teenagers.
Allow this, and suddenly one of your students has gotten in touch with their Scottish roots and asks to graduate in a kilt.

/didn't read all comments, apologies if exact reference made
 
2013-03-11 06:41:47 PM
This kid just wants to show what a farking example he is.  Come back when you've done something and have your parade then, don't borrow the glory of those who came before you before you've earned it.
 
2013-03-11 07:56:15 PM

loser0: Typhoid: Interesting that he and his family don't get the concept of a UNIFORM that everyone is expected to wear at graduation.

This, only without the preceding sentence.

The cap & gown has a symbolic purpose. If you're making a special effort to attend the ceremony, participate in it properly.


You are so very right.  This guy just wants it to be about HIM.
 
2013-03-11 08:12:37 PM

Weaver95: We spend all that time and effort teaching kids to be mindless conformists, then expect them to be fully actualized adults once they graduate high school. We are a very strange society.


If by "we" you mean our public schools, then I agree with half of what you've said.  I think people are still expected to be mindless conformists after graduation.
 
2013-03-11 10:00:03 PM
Good for the principal on this one.  He is graduating from HIGH SCHOOL, not farking Marine Core Basic.  And the proper uniform when graduating from HIGH SCHOOL is cap and gown.  Farking jar head needs to grow up and start acting like a farking adult.
 
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