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2013-03-11 06:20:58 AM  
Ha ha ha ha ha, no.

We still hate lawyers way more. But they're both well over the line for people most would like to see shot into the sun or dropped in a volcano, but boot companies are much rarer and nicer to their victims than lawyers.
 
2013-03-11 06:46:05 AM  
Red light camera companies.  I think you have to be a city councilman to like those, which puts things in perspective.
 
2013-03-11 06:54:43 AM  
Never understood the hate for lawyers, the few times in my life I've needed one, they did right by me. I'd be more pissed off at the legal system in general.
 
2013-03-11 07:01:38 AM  
You know who ELSE liked boots....
 
2013-03-11 07:03:58 AM  

SpdrJay: You know who ELSE liked boots....


Jack?
 
2013-03-11 07:04:30 AM  

ReapTheChaos: Never understood the hate for lawyers, the few times in my life I've needed one, they did right by me.


Lawyers are knives: they're sharp and don't really do anything left to themselves and the high quality ones can literally cut through a dozen cheap ones. They might even save your ass if you have a trusty one handy. But in the wrong hands they can inflict crippling injuries that last a lifetime and will do so without remorse.
 
2013-03-11 07:05:06 AM  

SpdrJay: You know who ELSE liked boots....


Puss?
 
2013-03-11 07:06:50 AM  
keep telling yourself that landshark. delude yourself into thinking you're loved as you drift off to sleep, a long hard night of ambulance chasing behind you.
 
2013-03-11 07:14:51 AM  

doglover: ReapTheChaos: Never understood the hate for lawyers, the few times in my life I've needed one, they did right by me.

Lawyers are knives: they're sharp and don't really do anything left to themselves and the high quality ones can literally cut through a dozen cheap ones. They might even save your ass if you have a trusty one handy. But in the wrong hands they can inflict crippling injuries that last a lifetime and will do so without remorse.


An apt analogy on Fark. Who'd've thunk it?
 
2013-03-11 07:18:05 AM  

ChubbyTiger: An apt analogy on Fark. Who'd've thunk it?


I'm good at metaphors, similes, and analogies. I must be in my line of work.

But I prefer to make horrendous ones in my free time 'cause I make enough apt ones on the clock. Also I once got metaphors banned for a whole semester in philosophy class by reducing ALL of Aristotle's Nichomachian Ethics to a bicycle.

It wound up being a 10 speed with two baskets, colored ribbons, a light, a flag, and half a dozen playing cards in it. That was a good day.
 
2013-03-11 07:27:22 AM  

doglover: I must be in my line of work.


Well. . . yeah.
 
2013-03-11 07:29:19 AM  
You could probably add insurance companies to that list.
 
2013-03-11 07:37:39 AM  
It's very important to keep turnover up and free up these spaces. Therefore we will prevent your car from moving if you don't move fast enough.
 
2013-03-11 07:52:45 AM  

SpdrJay: You know who ELSE liked boots....


img208.imageshack.us
 
2013-03-11 08:01:20 AM  

HindiDiscoMonster: [media.toolking.com image 400x300]
/Challenge Accepted


newsimg.bbc.co.uk
 
2013-03-11 08:24:21 AM  
Someone tried setting up a boot service in my town, the local parking lot company was all over the idea until the paper and one of the local TV stations showed the guys with the boot things running out to boot peoples cars as soon as they left the lot, whether they paid or not. The State legislature nixed that real quick.
 
2013-03-11 08:26:11 AM  

SpdrJay: You know who ELSE liked boots....


media.screened.com?
 
2013-03-11 08:27:57 AM  

Smidge204: HindiDiscoMonster: [media.toolking.com image 400x300]
/Challenge Accepted

[newsimg.bbc.co.uk image 200x245]


I like this guy.
 
2013-03-11 08:33:02 AM  

ChubbyTiger: doglover: ReapTheChaos: Never understood the hate for lawyers, the few times in my life I've needed one, they did right by me.

Lawyers are knives: they're sharp and don't really do anything left to themselves and the high quality ones can literally cut through a dozen cheap ones. They might even save your ass if you have a trusty one handy. But in the wrong hands they can inflict crippling injuries that last a lifetime and will do so without remorse.

An apt analogy on Fark. Who'd've thunk it?


It's not actually apt.  Lawyers who are left to themselves become *POLITICIANS*.

Those are the most dangerous kind.

I would say that lawyers are more like large dogs.  Properly trained, they may be fiercely protective of you, and a good one can defeat even a larger opponent.

Left to themselves, however, they tend to form a feral pack known as "government".
 
2013-03-11 08:40:27 AM  
I've found that if booted, you can do what ever you want to the boot.
Who in their right mind would care about the destruction of a boot.
Plug into the lamp pole fire up the 4" grinder and have at it in broad daylight.
Only the PD would have issues with it so you're pretty much cool.
 
2013-03-11 08:45:18 AM  
I think I would rather have my car booted than towed.  If they tow it they can claim just about anything (parked illegally, etc.)  If they boot it, your car is still there and if it is legally parked, you can prove it (since it's still there).
 
2013-03-11 09:18:19 AM  
Wait, there's illegal boot companies?  Why aren't they being charged criminally?
 
2013-03-11 09:22:49 AM  
If they were used correctly, I would have no problems with boots.  What pisses me off is that the system is designed to get you booted.  Every year I go down to Dragon*Con in Atlanta.  If you don't pay to be in the hotel garage (which is crazy expensive compared to one of the street lots), you have to set your alarm to go off at 5 am to go down and pay the lot.  No, you can't pre-pay.  They literally do not want your money for parking there.  They are out there at 5:01 slapping boots on anybody and everybody that hit snooze.
 
2013-03-11 09:54:39 AM  

Marcintosh: I've found that if booted, you can do what ever you want to the boot.
Who in their right mind would care about the destruction of a boot.
Plug into the lamp pole fire up the 4" grinder and have at it in broad daylight.
Only the PD would have issues with it so you're pretty much cool.


Why would the police care if it was from a private booting company (no ticket issued, just a private parking mafia sort of thing)?  You would probably want to be armed if you are destroying a booting company's property.

Most of this nonsense has nothing to do with police, parking tickets, etc.... rather it is a private industry that exploits people who are not authorized to park wherever they park.  You can say what you will about not parking wherever in the first place, but I had my car towed out of my own paid parking space on three occasions--- was by overzealous security guards who get kickbacks for each car towed.  Damaged my car in the process.
 
2013-03-11 10:05:44 AM  

ReapTheChaos: Never understood the hate for lawyers, the few times in my life I've needed one, they did right by me. I'd be more pissed off at the legal system in general.


Consider what happens when you go into the courtroom.  One side is certainly in the wrong and normally the lawyers on both sides know who it is.  Thus half the time they're arguing a position they know to be false.  I can't imagine how one could avoid being corrupted by that.  (Note, however, that this does not apply to lawyers who do things like contracts and normally aren't in court.)

filter: Most of this nonsense has nothing to do with police, parking tickets, etc.... rather it is a private industry that exploits people who are not authorized to park wherever they park. You can say what you will about not parking wherever in the first place, but I had my car towed out of my own paid parking space on three occasions--- was by overzealous security guards who get kickbacks for each car towed. Damaged my car in the process.


The meter maids can also be dirty.

It basically comes down to the same issue as traffic cameras--they're vilified because they're so often about unjust theft of money, not reasonable compliance with the law.
 
2013-03-11 10:06:18 AM  

filter: I had my car towed out of my own paid parking space on three occasions


I've never had my car booted or towed out of my driveway.
 
2013-03-11 10:07:43 AM  

HindiDiscoMonster: [media.toolking.com image 400x300]
/Challenge Accepted


This and a nice DC to AC converter in the rear of your vehicle and you're on your way in about 3 minutes, tops.

/plus, after you get about 10 boots, you can go cash them in for scrap metal and should have enough for a 12 pack!  WOO HOO
 
2013-03-11 10:45:53 AM  
I was sitting in my truck in a parking lot when a tow truck backed up and hooked the front of my truck. The driver then started arguing that I got in my truck only after he hooked my truck. He then offered to lower my truck if I paid him a $30 fee. Great scam and sadly I paid it, because it was my word against his.
 
2013-03-11 10:46:43 AM  

SpdrJay: You know who ELSE liked boots....


The Benny Hill Show?

livinginstereo.com
 
2013-03-11 11:01:38 AM  

Marcintosh: I've found that if booted, you can do what ever you want to the boot.
Who in their right mind would care about the destruction of a boot.
Plug into the lamp pole fire up the 4" grinder and have at it in broad daylight.
Only the PD would have issues with it so you're pretty much cool.


Yeah - if the only people I piss off is a group of heavily armed authoritarians who are legally empowered to detain me and lock me in a cage, I'm golden.
 
2013-03-11 11:05:26 AM  

Loren: The meter maids can also be dirty.


i18.photobucket.com
What a dirty meter maid might look like.
 
2013-03-11 11:51:04 AM  
Where do school administrators and TSA goons fall on that list?

Also, you know who else liked boots?
www.hwdyk.com
/hot
 
2013-03-11 12:33:49 PM  
I'm curious about the boots and towing by private companies when you're parked on property (typically a street) owned by the city/county/political subdivision.

How does a private contractor (assuming the local govt actually contracts them) have authority to represent the city/county in enforcing ordinances?  Shouldn't a representative of the city/county be required to enforce the ordinances and be the one booting/towing, or at least be present at the time of the infraction and directing the booting/towing?
 
2013-03-11 01:11:17 PM  

nickerj1: I'm curious about the boots and towing by private companies when you're parked on property (typically a street) owned by the city/county/political subdivision.

How does a private contractor (assuming the local govt actually contracts them) have authority to represent the city/county in enforcing ordinances?  Shouldn't a representative of the city/county be required to enforce the ordinances and be the one booting/towing, or at least be present at the time of the infraction and directing the booting/towing?


Doesn't apply to private parking lots.

Go to youtube, and search for "Cars booted". Much hilarity there.
 
2013-03-11 01:32:11 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: Wait, there's illegal boot companies?  Why aren't they being charged criminally?


Yeah, I don't get it.  If they boot your car illegally (you have proof you parked legally, etc) then why do you HAVE to pay?  Call the police and have the company charged with auto theft (yes, yes it is).

Something is missing form the story: do they have some scam where they can make it look like you deserved the boot?
 
2013-03-11 03:38:58 PM  
csb

In California, people with a handicap parking placard do not have to pay at metered spots, and are not subject to time limits (usually green curbs, 30 min limit, etc.)  I love watching meter maids and other parking enforcement make a bee line to my car, thinking they've "got one", only to see my placard and hear me laughing at them from across the street.  Good times.

/csb
 
2013-03-11 06:19:10 PM  

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: Satanic_Hamster: Wait, there's illegal boot companies?  Why aren't they being charged criminally?

Yeah, I don't get it.  If they boot your car illegally (you have proof you parked legally, etc) then why do you HAVE to pay?  Call the police and have the company charged with auto theft (yes, yes it is).

Something is missing form the story: do they have some scam where they can make it look like you deserved the boot?


Yes. It's called "lying".  Pretty much every tow company does it for a living.
 
2013-03-12 03:59:46 PM  

ZeroCorpse: DontMakeMeComeBackThere: Satanic_Hamster: Wait, there's illegal boot companies?  Why aren't they being charged criminally?

Yeah, I don't get it.  If they boot your car illegally (you have proof you parked legally, etc) then why do you HAVE to pay?  Call the police and have the company charged with auto theft (yes, yes it is).

Something is missing form the story: do they have some scam where they can make it look like you deserved the boot?

Yes. It's called "lying".  Pretty much every tow company does it for a living.


Can you imagine how many people claim to be wrongly booted who were actually parked illegally and call and say the exact same thing? I can understand some skepticism because a lot of guilty people say they are innocent too.  However, the problem then becomes on whom the burden of proof lies.
  Because you were booted they assume you are guilty unless you can prove otherwise.  Every crime of this nature is subject to easy abuse because once this business man with a large financial interest is the one deciding who has broken the law, well, it just seems like a lot more people break the law.

The only people in charge of enforcing the law should be the police and the police should be given every social and financial incentive to enforce them fairly.  Sometimes police are forced to enforce bad laws, but that's a whole other topic.
 
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