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(Entertainment Weekly)   Joss Whedon poses the question: Are original Star Wars actors just too damn old to be in a new movie now?   (insidemovies.ew.com) divider line 141
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2013-03-10 10:55:51 PM
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2013-03-10 11:57:18 PM
Yes.

/Not to mention too damned dead in Alec's case.
 
2013-03-11 12:00:51 AM
Considering that Alec Guinness is dead, there is only one movie sequel possible with the original actors.

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2013-03-11 12:22:22 AM
I think Chewie could pull it off.
 
2013-03-11 12:23:28 AM
Was Alec Guinness too old to play Obi Wan?

That being said, Star Wars has a canonical universe is well developed and open to plenty of script writing. After all, presumably the wars are over. And Star Police Actions just doesn't sound right.
 
2013-03-11 12:41:16 AM
The answer is entirely dependent on when the new movie is set relative to the original trilogy.
 
2013-03-11 12:54:37 AM

GAT_00: The answer is entirely dependent on when the new movie is set relative to the original trilogy.


I hope they shoot for 30 to 40 years after Episode VI
 
2013-03-11 12:55:06 AM

quatchi: Yes.

/Not to mention too damned dead in Alec's case.


Well, it wouldn't really matter since Obi-Wan is as well.  And if they need his spirit for something, they always have Ewan McGregor...
 
2013-03-11 01:00:44 AM
Yes

/Do we get to vote?
 
2013-03-11 01:04:35 AM

srhp29: GAT_00: The answer is entirely dependent on when the new movie is set relative to the original trilogy.

I hope they shoot for 30 to 40 years after Episode VI



It has been 40 YEARSsince the fall of the GALACTIC EMPIRE.  Your favorite characters GOT OLD.  They now sit around drinking BLUE MILK since it doesn't give them INDIGESTION, and using THE FORCEto protect their LAWNS from KIDS.
 
2013-03-11 01:04:41 AM

IlGreven: quatchi: Yes.

/Not to mention too damned dead in Alec's case.

Well, it wouldn't really matter since Obi-Wan is as well.  And if they need his spirit for something, they always have Ewan McGregor...


They'll get some new guy to play Obi-Wan's ghost, and then go back and digitally insert him into the originals and the prequels.
 
2013-03-11 01:06:09 AM
Joss Whedon: not sexist, just ageist.
 
2013-03-11 01:06:57 AM
I'm hoping for a Star Wars Holiday Special reboot, because I can't think of anything else painful enough to distract from the sheer awfulness of the prequels.
 
2013-03-11 01:08:11 AM
Yes.  See also Jones, Indiana.
 
2013-03-11 01:08:18 AM
If it's done far enough in the future in Star Wars so the actors and characters ages coincide, then why not?
 
2013-03-11 01:09:06 AM
The answer is entirely dependent on how they write the characters.  Even Mr. Whedon knows that.
 
2013-03-11 01:14:35 AM
So when this is filmed, Mark Hamill will be as old as Alec Guinness was in episode IV.  I don't mind the old actors coming back but somehow I doubt Hamill is going to be able to avoid unflattering comparisons to Guinness.

I did see Billy D. Williams in a recent episode of Modern Family. He was cool and all but hopefully isn't allowed anywhere near the new movies.
 
2013-03-11 01:17:17 AM
Putting these aging creatures in the new movies for anything larger than some cameos is pretty much a guarantee that the movies will suck.
 
2013-03-11 01:18:51 AM
What does it matter? SW is a great premise that George Lucus farked up by being more worried about selling toys toys then telling a compelling story.
 
2013-03-11 01:20:25 AM
Luke can be a Jedi mentor and Leia can be a Senator or President or whatever the new Republic set up, but what do they do with Han Solo? I can't think of anything they could put him up to without it being depressing.
 
2013-03-11 01:23:36 AM
When old and fat you get, look as good you will not.

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2013-03-11 01:24:46 AM
How about MOVE THE FARK ON FROM THE TIRED, PLAYED-OUT CONTINUITY OF THE PREVIOUS FILMS AND SHOW US SOMETHING NEW IN THIS VAST GALAXY. Christ almighty.
 
2013-03-11 01:26:38 AM

Boxcutta: Yes.  See also Jones, Indiana.


we are done here.
 
2013-03-11 01:30:47 AM

EngineerAU: So when this is filmed, Mark Hamill will be as old as Alec Guinness was in episode IV.  I don't mind the old actors coming back but somehow I doubt Hamill is going to be able to avoid unflattering comparisons to Guinness.

I did see Billy D. Williams in a recent episode of Modern Family. He was cool and all but hopefully isn't allowed anywhere near the new movies.




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Ralph Macchio is now as old as Pat Morita was when the first Karate Kid started filming.
 
2013-03-11 01:30:48 AM
I pose this question: Is Joss Whedon anything more than a fanboy douchebag?
 
2013-03-11 01:30:59 AM
Only one thing is certain: Star Wars fans will be butthurt.

I can hear it already,"Disney raped my childhood!!!!!  WAHHHHHHH!!!!!"
 
2013-03-11 01:31:00 AM

Confabulat: Luke can be a Jedi mentor and Leia can be a Senator or President or whatever the new Republic set up, but what do they do with Han Solo? I can't think of anything they could put him up to without it being depressing.


Married to Leia, completely whipped. Only has one sentence in the entire new trilogy, "Yes dear."

/Book it done.
 
2013-03-11 01:31:04 AM
I guess if the new character is the kid of the old characters, I could see a Frodo/Bilbo kind of setup, where the torch is passed on.   Also, you could have a final resolution to the three characters by the end of the first movie so fans will know what their ultimate fates turned out to be.

To me that just adds drag to the new movies though.   These new movies could be anything, could tell any story, and their best idea is to bring back old(literally) characters?
 
2013-03-11 01:31:15 AM

Confabulat: Luke can be a Jedi mentor and Leia can be a Senator or President or whatever the new Republic set up, but what do they do with Han Solo? I can't think of anything they could put him up to without it being depressing.


"General Solo, is your strike team assembled"

He's military.
 
2013-03-11 01:31:15 AM
I could see a brief cameo appearance with Luke, Leia, and Han at the beginning. Make the new characters tie in somehow to the old and then move on to new worlds, new villains, new adventures.
 
2013-03-11 01:34:42 AM

henryhill: I pose this question: Is Joss Whedon anything more than a fanboy douchebag?


No. That's why the fanboys love him so much. This whole article smacks of his jealousy over the studio choosing Abrams to direct the sequels.

Guy puts out one project in ten years that doesn't get cancelled halfway through, and suddenly he's supposed to be an end-all be-all of all things cinema?
 
2013-03-11 01:38:38 AM

shintochick: I could see a brief cameo appearance with Luke, Leia, and Han at the beginning. Make the new characters tie in somehow to the old and then move on to new worlds, new villains, new adventures.


Sort of like Gran-Gran Katarra's cameo near the beginning of The Legend of Korra?
 
2013-03-11 01:43:54 AM
Of course they're too old. This is Star Wars, not Star Trek.
 
2013-03-11 01:49:03 AM
I'd be down for any of the Michael Stackpole Star Wars books to be adapted. I dug the X-Wing series, and I, Jedi was good as well (easily making way for cameos of the "oldies").

However, I'm not sure I trust Disney with this. I'm taking a wait and see approach.
 
2013-03-11 01:50:55 AM
Depending on how they are used, they are certainly not too old.

Just give me a scene where old Solo is confronted by old Fett and old Solo shirts first. The farking house would come down.
 
2013-03-11 01:52:32 AM

COMALite J: shintochick: I could see a brief cameo appearance with Luke, Leia, and Han at the beginning. Make the new characters tie in somehow to the old and then move on to new worlds, new villains, new adventures.

Sort of like Gran-Gran Katarra's cameo near the beginning of The Legend of Korra?


Exactly!! Well-written cameo that appeals to viewers of the original and ties us to the new story. Thankfully LoK proceeded into a brand-new direction with awesome characters and a good story.
 
2013-03-11 01:54:45 AM

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2013-03-11 01:55:18 AM
What about the music? If Star Wars VII is released in 2015 and then it's every 3 years like the past two trilogies, John Williams will be 89 in the year 2021 when IX comes out. But hey, Elliott Carter kept composing almost till he died last year at age 103.
 
2013-03-11 01:58:18 AM

Birnone: I guess if the new character is the kid of the old characters, I could see a Frodo/Bilbo kind of setup, where the torch is passed on.   Also, you could have a final resolution to the three characters by the end of the first movie so fans will know what their ultimate fates turned out to be.

To me that just adds drag to the new movies though.   These new movies could be anything, could tell any story, and their best idea is to bring back old(literally) characters?


The EU could tell literally any story they want out of the galaxy set by star wars. What did we get? 99% of the stories referenced the trilogy directly and had cameos or characters asking "where's pootchie?"

The prequels had an excuse to be a serpent swallowing itself, I guess but too many things tied in together.

Anyhow, I feel free to say this as an old west end star wars RPG player that played lots of adventures that didn't feature the original cast shoehorned in at every turn.
 
2013-03-11 02:12:23 AM

Because People in power are Stupid: Considering that Alec Guinness is dead, there is only one movie sequel possible with the original actors.

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C3PO as a zombie was just gratuitously awesome.
 
2013-03-11 02:14:27 AM
Here's all I want to see from the new movies: models and puppets. I will post this in every thread new Star Wars related. CGI looks fake as hell and the sets and models and puppets look far better.
 
2013-03-11 02:14:30 AM
No. Star Wars was never about intensive physical stuff. Half of it is sitting in spaceships and the other half is waving around blasters and lightsaber handles.
 
2013-03-11 02:17:07 AM

Confabulat: Luke can be a Jedi mentor and Leia can be a Senator or President or whatever the new Republic set up, but what do they do with Han Solo? I can't think of anything they could put him up to without it being depressing.


I can see him being the crazy fun uncle to Luke's kid in the first movie. While Luke keeps his kid on a short leash because he is afraid he is too much like his grandfather, Han's influence pushes him to answer the call to adventure, which leads to hijinks that set the main plot in motion and reveals a plot by some new Sith to destroy the New Republic.

By the end of the second movie, the New Republic is overthrown either by the new Sith or an even bigger threat to the galaxy, and our heroes are forced into hiding again. Han is instrumental in this thanks to his old days as a smuggler and being on the wrong side of the law, and he is able to call in some favors thanks to having kept up with some old friends in low places through the years. Thanks to his help, our old and new heroes get the time they need to regroup and win back the galaxy from the new threat.
 
2013-03-11 02:20:42 AM
Honestly, I fully expect to see them playing considerable roles in these movies...Roles, however, that require them to stand back and let the younger heroes do the hero stuff.

I can easily see Luke Skywalker as head of a new Jedi Order, leading and teaching on Coruscant.

I can easily see Queen Leia Solo heading up a reconstituted Galactic Senate.

I can easily see Han Solo trying his best to pretend as if he's not old, and failing badly and eventually sending Chewie to watch his kid do the hero stuff(bonus points if it's his daughter) while he limps off to find Leia and whine.

Each of these roles could pivotal in the movies and yet still not force these actors to pretend as if they're not old and tired and unable to do what they did 30 years ago.

Done right, these roles could be utterly amazing.  I can only hope that Abrams pulls it off.
 
2013-03-11 02:24:03 AM

azmoviez: Here's all I want to see from the new movies: models and puppets. I will post this in every thread new Star Wars related. CGI looks fake as hell and the sets and models and puppets look far better.


You really need a mix of practical and CGI for the best results, like Del Toro did in the Hellboy movies. There is a lot of crappy stop motion and model work in the OT that I'd rather not see, and some puppets that really sucked, too, like that stupid blue piano playing elephant thing. Unfortunately in the Prequel trilogy, everything looked like a nail once Lucas got his CGI hammer.
 
2013-03-11 02:27:38 AM
I guess they aren't, if they play age appropriate characters.

But how about something goddamn new instead? The SW universe is huge. Really big.

And after all, it's easier to sell toys when they aren't a remake of what's gone before...
 
2013-03-11 02:34:01 AM
I wish they'd go with more realstic spacecraft next time.
 
2013-03-11 02:36:46 AM
My take is that there needs to be 3 stories: The old guard letting go, their kids trying to take over in the shadow of "the greatest generation" and the grand-kids growing up. This has become a multi-generation franchise and it'd be nice to see the plot reflect that.

I'd start with the death of Akbar, a bit of exposition, then during the funeral a big massive invasion where the family take off in The Falcon, which gets torn to shreds - and Han gets sucked out an airlock.
 
2013-03-11 02:38:02 AM

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2013-03-11 02:50:25 AM

italie: When old and fat you get, look as good you will not.

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I honestly thought that was Tom Arnold for a second.
 
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