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(Chicago Trib)   Wanna see a picture of eight stolen schoolbuses shredded into mountain of scrap metal by an unscrupulous junkyard metal dealer? Of course you do   (chicagotribune.com) divider line 89
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2013-03-10 06:44:02 PM
Police searched the scrap dealer starting about 7 a.m. Thursday, and about 2:15 p.m., they found Quintero in the false ceiling of the parts yard's office, trying to hide from officers

When officers arrived at the business, several people who apparently worked in the scrap yard ran into a building, police said


Idiots!  Pulling those sorts of shenanigans only makes you look guilty.  If you want to avoid suspicion, you need to drive slowly away in a Ford Bronco.
 
2013-03-10 07:07:35 PM
People just trying to earn a living, yo.

Besides, it's a victimless crime.

/But let someone steal from them...
 
2013-03-10 07:09:49 PM
You can no haz my school bus.
 
2013-03-10 07:13:13 PM
This has "the Mob" written all over it.
 
2013-03-10 07:17:31 PM
Ah Chicago, what can't your low life residents do?
 
2013-03-10 07:17:45 PM
I wonder if the individuals in question have enough money to replace the buses. I doubt it, for a POS those things are expensive.
 
2013-03-10 07:18:46 PM
That'll buff out.
 
2013-03-10 07:19:44 PM
Pointy Tail of Satan:

I don't know, wouldn't the bus drivers union be aware that each bus is tracked by GPS?
 
2013-03-10 07:20:09 PM
Here's what I don't get - where is the profit in stealing a bunch of school buses and shredding them?  If you're going to go through the considerable effort/planning needed to steal 8 school buses, don't you need to have some plan more interesting than shredding them for scrap metal?
 
2013-03-10 07:20:35 PM
Shred 'em if you got 'em!
 
2013-03-10 07:21:03 PM

EvilEgg: I wonder if the individuals in question have enough money to replace the buses. I doubt it, for a POS those things are expensive.


Depends what year they were, really.
 
2013-03-10 07:22:56 PM

Shadyman: EvilEgg: I wonder if the individuals in question have enough money to replace the buses. I doubt it, for a POS those things are expensive.

Depends what year they were, really.


Would the school have insurance coverage for theft of their buses?
 
2013-03-10 07:23:06 PM

balloot: Here's what I don't get - where is the profit in stealing a bunch of school buses and shredding them?  If you're going to go through the considerable effort/planning needed to steal 8 school buses, don't you need to have some plan more interesting than shredding them for scrap metal?


Criminals like these aren't usually the sharpest bunch.
 
2013-03-10 07:25:25 PM
WHere's our horses.

What do you think you been eat'in.

How do you eat a school bus?
 
2013-03-10 07:25:47 PM
Shouldn't we have a 'Chicago' tag by now?
 
2013-03-10 07:27:51 PM

I_Am_Weasel: Idiots! Pulling those sorts of shenanigans only makes you look guilty. If you want to avoid suspicion, you need to drive slowly away in a Ford Bronco.


A stabin' wagon?  those things always were fun to ride around in.

For a time I recall teens calling a decked out SUV or bronco a chode or choad?  Either way I always though that name was tainted.
 
2013-03-10 07:29:58 PM

Silly Jesus: Ah Chicago, what can't your low life residents do?


Yeah like other cities don't have scrap yards that profit in crushing stolen vehicles and selling them for scrap metal.
 
2013-03-10 07:30:21 PM
Good! I hate schoolbuses, I hate people who drive them, I hate the cities that.protect bad bus drivers and I hate the insurance companies.that cover them.
 
2013-03-10 07:31:00 PM

ongbok: Silly Jesus: Ah Chicago, what can't your low life residents do?

Yeah like other cities don't have scrap yards that profit in crushing stolen vehicles and selling them for scrap metal.


Just saying that they are diverse, that's all.
 
2013-03-10 07:32:19 PM

Pointy Tail of Satan: This has "the Mob" written all over it.


That was the first thought to cross my mind when I saw it in the paper Saturday morning. 8 fairly new school buses stolen and reduced to scrap within one night. Hmm...

/farking societal parasites was my next thought
 
2013-03-10 07:34:22 PM

balloot: Here's what I don't get - where is the profit in stealing a bunch of school buses and shredding them?  If you're going to go through the considerable effort/planning needed to steal 8 school buses, don't you need to have some plan more interesting than shredding them for scrap metal?


There's actually pretty good money in shredded steel.
We know: The guy had stolen, blank vehicle title certificates and had shredded the busses knowing they were stolen
Assume: The excavator is stolen which is very hard to prove, especially for the older ones. The shredder is stolen. This guy is probably in the business of finding dead vehicles around the city and swiping them for scrap, hence the need for the stolen certs. Nobody is going to care about stripped out cars vanishing from the side streets, right? I'll betcha this dude has been doing this exact scam for decades with people's cars and such.
 
2013-03-10 07:34:59 PM
Chicago has a Far Side?
 
2013-03-10 07:35:22 PM

balloot: Here's what I don't get - where is the profit in stealing a bunch of school buses and shredding them?  If you're going to go through the considerable effort/planning needed to steal 8 school buses, don't you need to have some plan more interesting than shredding them for scrap metal?


You can get some quick cash that is pretty nice. The best way is to part them out but it's riskier and more time consuming.
 
2013-03-10 07:35:23 PM
So who's this Gonzalez fellow then?
 
2013-03-10 07:36:03 PM

Deathfrogg: balloot: Here's what I don't get - where is the profit in stealing a bunch of school buses and shredding them?  If you're going to go through the considerable effort/planning needed to steal 8 school buses, don't you need to have some plan more interesting than shredding them for scrap metal?

There's actually pretty good money in shredded steel.
We know: The guy had stolen, blank vehicle title certificates and had shredded the busses knowing they were stolen
Assume: The excavator is stolen which is very hard to prove, especially for the older ones. The shredder is stolen. This guy is probably in the business of finding dead vehicles around the city and swiping them for scrap, hence the need for the stolen certs. Nobody is going to care about stripped out cars vanishing from the side streets, right? I'll betcha this dude has been doing this exact scam for decades with people's cars and such.


You know way too much about this to be an innocent bystander.
 
2013-03-10 07:36:43 PM
"There is no spoon..." ~ Neo
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"There is no schoolbus..." ~ Sergio Quintero
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2013-03-10 07:37:42 PM

Gyrfalcon: Deathfrogg: balloot: Here's what I don't get - where is the profit in stealing a bunch of school buses and shredding them?  If you're going to go through the considerable effort/planning needed to steal 8 school buses, don't you need to have some plan more interesting than shredding them for scrap metal?

There's actually pretty good money in shredded steel.
We know: The guy had stolen, blank vehicle title certificates and had shredded the busses knowing they were stolen
Assume: The excavator is stolen which is very hard to prove, especially for the older ones. The shredder is stolen. This guy is probably in the business of finding dead vehicles around the city and swiping them for scrap, hence the need for the stolen certs. Nobody is going to care about stripped out cars vanishing from the side streets, right? I'll betcha this dude has been doing this exact scam for decades with people's cars and such.

You know way too much about this to be an innocent bystander.


I've never been to Chicago.

After a bit of musing, I'll give you a CSB
 
2013-03-10 07:38:18 PM

germ78: Pointy Tail of Satan: This has "the Mob" written all over it.

That was the first thought to cross my mind when I saw it in the paper Saturday morning. 8 fairly new school buses stolen and reduced to scrap within one night. Hmm...

/farking societal parasites was my next thought


isn't that comparison redundant?

potato, potahto, etc
 
2013-03-10 07:41:30 PM

Mrbogey: balloot: Here's what I don't get - where is the profit in stealing a bunch of school buses and shredding them?  If you're going to go through the considerable effort/planning needed to steal 8 school buses, don't you need to have some plan more interesting than shredding them for scrap metal?

You can get some quick cash that is pretty nice. The best way is to part them out but it's riskier and more time consuming.


This.
I don't know what the market is for school bus parts, but there is always a buyer for shredded metal and it is a pretty quick turn around.  I'm willing to bet that if the police didn't get there when they did, all of the metal would have been gone by the weekend.
 
2013-03-10 07:42:43 PM

earthworm2.0: Good! I hate schoolbuses, I hate people who drive them, I hate the cities that.protect bad bus drivers and I hate the insurance companies.that cover them.


For heaven's sake, don't hold back! Tell us how you really feel.
 
2013-03-10 07:43:04 PM

mjjt: Chicago has a Far Side?


Chicago is the Far Side.
 
2013-03-10 07:43:44 PM

earthworm2.0: Good! I hate schoolbuses, I hate people who drive them, I hate the cities that.protect bad bus drivers and I hate the insurance companies.that cover them.


Why?
 
2013-03-10 07:44:36 PM

Breygon: germ78: Pointy Tail of Satan: This has "the Mob" written all over it.

That was the first thought to cross my mind when I saw it in the paper Saturday morning. 8 fairly new school buses stolen and reduced to scrap within one night. Hmm...

/farking societal parasites was my next thought

isn't that comparison redundant?

potato, potahto, etc


You know... you're right.
 
2013-03-10 07:51:11 PM

Pointy Tail of Satan: This has "the Mob" written all over it.


It's Chicago, so there's a politician somewhere collecting some money for it. The business owner will do all right if he keeps his mouth shut and just does the time.
 
2013-03-10 07:52:20 PM
I blame the parents
 
2013-03-10 07:56:41 PM

earthworm2.0: Good! I hate schoolbuses, I hate people who drive them, I hate the cities that.protect bad bus drivers and I hate the insurance companies.that cover them.


I even 'ate the mess they left on the lawn.  Ya heard me.
 
2013-03-10 07:56:43 PM
If only we all had shredders.
 
2013-03-10 08:01:26 PM

upndn: If only we all had shredders.


Most of us do, but they won't handle schoolbuses.
 
2013-03-10 08:02:21 PM
I seriously doubt the CPD had some seekrit investigation going on that uncovered a massive bus stealing conspiracy. When I see stories like this here in Chicago I figure the cops caught a thief who was turned in by a 2nd thief who wanted to steal the stuff that the first thief got to before him.

Butthurt in the Crime World
 
2013-03-10 08:04:12 PM
I'd like to see the GPS trace as it went through the shredder yard.  It probably looks like a Family Circus dotted line.
 
2013-03-10 08:04:58 PM
I wondered how stealing a bunch of stuff is cool. But... Yeah, it kinda is.
 
2013-03-10 08:07:09 PM
Somewhere *ahem* an alderman is pretty pissed off he ain't gettin' his cut AND being able to get the money to replace those buses.
Dat's money out his baby's moufs!
 
2013-03-10 08:08:51 PM

EvilEgg: I wonder if the individuals in question have enough money to replace the buses. I doubt it, for a POS those things are expensive.


He couldn't make 25k in bail, so I'm guessing not.
 
2013-03-10 08:10:00 PM
I was willing to give the benefit of the doubt that the scrapyard owner and employees may have just been too lazy to verify the source of their latest acquisitions, but from the way they reacted when the cops arrived? Yeah, these guys are buttholes and they knew exactly what they did was criminal. A lot of crackheads are pissed off at losing a place where they could unload their stolen scrap with no questions asked.
 
2013-03-10 08:14:55 PM

foo monkey: earthworm2.0: Good! I hate schoolbuses, I hate people who drive them, I hate the cities that.protect bad bus drivers and I hate the insurance companies.that cover them.

Why?


Perhaps when he was a youngin' he was violated by a schoolbus...
 
2013-03-10 08:15:55 PM

sloshed_again: mjjt: Chicago has a Far Side?

Chicago is the Far Side.


No, the FAR South Side
s24.postimage.org
Can't get much farther south than Antarctica.
 
2013-03-10 08:20:55 PM
Checks mug shot from Chicago South Side.  Nope.
 
2013-03-10 08:25:02 PM

Deathfrogg: After a bit of musing, I'll give you a CSB


I've got a scrap yard CSB, vehicles sold in the state of Georgia older than 1985 do not require a title, a hand written bill of sale will suffice, I was working for a scrap yard that actually played by the rules from what I saw when I was there, (I spent 4 weeks installing the new state mandated scrap metal seller identification computer system), and almost every week some derelict would show up in a late 70s early 80s car with no plates, a hot wired ignition, and a bill of sale written on notebook paper.  They were always turned away.
 
2013-03-10 08:26:47 PM

Deathfrogg: balloot: Here's what I don't get - where is the profit in stealing a bunch of school buses and shredding them?  If you're going to go through the considerable effort/planning needed to steal 8 school buses, don't you need to have some plan more interesting than shredding them for scrap metal?

There's actually pretty good money in shredded steel.
We know: The guy had stolen, blank vehicle title certificates and had shredded the busses knowing they were stolen
Assume: The excavator is stolen which is very hard to prove, especially for the older ones. The shredder is stolen. This guy is probably in the business of finding dead vehicles around the city and swiping them for scrap, hence the need for the stolen certs. Nobody is going to care about stripped out cars vanishing from the side streets, right? I'll betcha this dude has been doing this exact scam for decades with people's cars and such.


There was a scrap yard owner who did this in cincy about 20 years back. Him and a couple of good ol boys would drive the highways at night in tow trucks looking for vehicles left on the side of the road. Take them back to the yard and shred em. Took several years and a bait car operation to bring em down.
 
2013-03-10 08:30:53 PM
The original article from the Trib had more info...

The buses are worth considerably more parted out, each bus as 'scrap' amounted to $2.5-3.5k
 
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