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(Berkshire Eagle)   Is it legal to buy your child a beer in Massachusetts? Nobody is sure   (berkshireeagle.com) divider line 39
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2013-03-10 02:14:08 PM  
Throw the law out and make the legislature write a new one.  It's unconstitutional if  a reasonable person of ordinary intelligence cannot tell what is permitted or prohibited.
 
2013-03-10 05:24:17 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: Throw the law out and make the legislature write a new one.  It's unconstitutional if  a reasonable person of ordinary intelligence cannot tell what is permitted or prohibited.


Agrees.
 
2013-03-10 05:39:27 PM  
FTA: "A survey of a dozen Berkshire County parents, none of whom wanted to be quoted by name, found that many are reluctant to encourage drinking at home, thinking that teens likely will experiment on their own with their peers. "

This is why they "experiment" dumbass, because you won't let them learn about alcohol. You teach your kid to swim or ride a bike, so they'll learn and know what to do and what not to do. But with beer you keep it locked away on the top shelf with a big sign saying "Danger! For adults only! Not for kids!" and you wonder why they then experiment with their school buddies? Well duh!

Children in France have wine with family meals from under ten year sold and they grow up knowing how to drink socially.
 
2013-03-10 06:21:21 PM  
Is any law in MA clear?
 
2013-03-10 06:23:29 PM  
I think it should be illegal for anyone to buy a Boston Lager like Samuel Adams.
That swill is just nasty.
 
2013-03-10 06:25:57 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: Throw the law out and make the legislature write a new one.  It's unconstitutional if  a reasonable person of ordinary intelligence cannot tell what is permitted or prohibited.


But the lawyers that write the laws want them as unclear as possible.
 
2013-03-10 06:26:51 PM  
My kids are over 21 but they don't drink so I'm confused.
 
2013-03-10 06:27:48 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: Throw the law out and make the legislature write a new one.  It's unconstitutional if  a reasonable person of ordinary intelligence cannot tell what is permitted or prohibited.


You're precious.

Lawyers are the last great American industry.
 
2013-03-10 06:27:49 PM  

Flint Ironstag: Children in France have wine with family meals from under ten year sold and they grow up knowing how to drink socially


Citation, please.
 
2013-03-10 06:28:09 PM  
Little Billy had to learn wine and cheese pairings on the streets.
 
2013-03-10 06:29:50 PM  

Brick-House: My kids are over 21 but they don't drink so I'm confused.


They're on meth.
Glad I could clear that up for ya.
 
2013-03-10 06:30:59 PM  

rkiller1: Flint Ironstag: Children in France have wine with family meals from under ten year sold and they grow up knowing how to drink socially

Citation, please.




Well the Catholic ones drink wine every Sunday at Mass.
 
2013-03-10 06:31:59 PM  

Flint Ironstag: FTA: "A survey of a dozen Berkshire County parents, none of whom wanted to be quoted by name, found that many are reluctant to encourage drinking at home, thinking that teens likely will experiment on their own with their peers. "


This is why they "experiment" dumbass, because you won't let them learn about alcohol sex. You teach your kid to swim or ride a bike, so they'll learn and know what to do and what not to do. But with beer sex you keep it locked away on the top shelf with a big sign saying "Danger! For adults only! Not for kids!" and you wonder why they then experiment with their school buddies? Well duh!

Children in France have wine sex with family meals members from under ten year sold and they grow up knowing how to drink fark socially.


Interesting what happens when you change one little word...
 
2013-03-10 06:33:15 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: Throw the law out and make the legislature write a new one.  It's unconstitutional if  a reasonable person of ordinary intelligence cannot tell what is permitted or prohibited.


Do you realize just how many law will need to be tossed out?

Laws are often intentionally ambiguous which is the legislature punting the problem to the courts.
 
2013-03-10 06:41:29 PM  

puckrock2000: Flint Ironstag: FTA: "A survey of a dozen Berkshire County parents, none of whom wanted to be quoted by name, found that many are reluctant to encourage drinking at home, thinking that teens likely will experiment on their own with their peers. "

This is why they "experiment" dumbass, because you won't let them learn about alcohol sex. You teach your kid to swim or ride a bike, so they'll learn and know what to do and what not to do. But with beer sex you keep it locked away on the top shelf with a big sign saying "Danger! For adults only! Not for kids!" and you wonder why they then experiment with their school buddies? Well duh!

Children in France have wine sex with family meals members from under ten year sold and they grow up knowing how to drink fark socially.

Interesting what happens when you change one little word...


Especially when it's actually three separate words.
 
2013-03-10 06:45:21 PM  
Keep going...
 
2013-03-10 06:47:17 PM  
A survey of a dozen Berkshire County parents, none of whom wanted to be quoted by name, found that many are reluctant to encourage drinking at home, thinking that teens likely will experiment on their own with their peers

Why is experimenting with drinking with peers better than in a controlled environment where there are proper cocktails and brews available? Develop a healthy respect for alcohol and after effects while learning the difference between enjoying the loss of inhibitions versus flavor.
 
2013-03-10 06:47:47 PM  

AndreMA: puckrock2000: Flint Ironstag: FTA: "A survey of a dozen Berkshire County parents, none of whom wanted to be quoted by name, found that many are reluctant to encourage drinking at home, thinking that teens likely will experiment on their own with their peers. "

This is why they "experiment" dumbass, because you won't let them learn about alcohol sex. You teach your kid to swim or ride a bike, so they'll learn and know what to do and what not to do. But with beer sex you keep it locked away on the top shelf with a big sign saying "Danger! For adults only! Not for kids!" and you wonder why they then experiment with their school buddies? Well duh!

Children in France have wine sex with family meals members from under ten year sold and they grow up knowing how to drink fark socially.

Interesting what happens when you change one little word...

Especially when it's actually three separate words.




That's the problem with pedofiles, they can't count.
 
2013-03-10 06:48:30 PM  

HempHead: rkiller1: Flint Ironstag: Children in France have wine with family meals from under ten year sold and they grow up knowing how to drink socially

Citation, please.

Well the Catholic ones drink wine every Sunday at Mass.


Cool, but if drinking wine during the preteen years leads to "knowing how to drink socially" then I should start serving my ten-year-old vino at family dinners, but if it's the poster's opinion, then I'll just let Junior learn the old-fashioned way, drinking beer with his buddies next year.
 
2013-03-10 06:50:55 PM  
You know the M in Mass is silent.

Where else can you go and get ticketed for lighting briquets in a grill
 
2013-03-10 06:52:08 PM  
When did the law become ambiguous? You can give your own children alcohol (but nobody else's children) inside your own home. It's been that way for over 20 years.
 
2013-03-10 06:53:36 PM  
It is definitely legal in Texas---and one of the stupidest laws on the books.
 
2013-03-10 06:54:24 PM  
It's not legal to buy your child a beer, but it IS legal to marry a beer and have a child.
 
2013-03-10 06:55:35 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: Throw the law out and make the legislature write a new one.  It's unconstitutional if  a reasonable person of ordinary intelligence cannot tell what is permitted or prohibited.


HAHAHAHAHA! Read the tax code.  (and don't argue that those are regulations:  they have the force of law, complete with criminal penalties).
 
2013-03-10 07:04:28 PM  
Buy it for the child, drink it yourself. There, now wasn't that easy?
 
2013-03-10 07:10:27 PM  

D Cubitus: Buy it for the child, drink it yourself. There, now wasn't that easy?


That's good, that's very very good.
 
2013-03-10 07:15:07 PM  

sloshed_again: You know the M in Mass is silent.

Where else can you go and get ticketed for lighting briquets in a grill


heroes.ph
 
2013-03-10 07:21:26 PM  
My understanding of the Massachusetts law has always been:

It is illegal to give anyone under 21 alcohol, unless that person is your child (or ward, or spouse).

So yes, the parent could order/purchase the drink in a restaurant, or bar, or any place and give it to their child without any trouble
 
2013-03-10 07:21:27 PM  

sloshed_again: You know the M in Mass is silent.

Where else can you go and get ticketed for lighting briquets in a grill


What did you expect when you try to do it in the middle of 128?
 
2013-03-10 07:26:48 PM  

The Incredible Sexual Egg: sloshed_again: You know the M in Mass is silent.

Where else can you go and get ticketed for lighting briquets in a grill

What did you expect when you try to do it in the middle of 128?


of PC100 SDRAM??
 
2013-03-10 07:46:17 PM  

olddinosaur: It is definitely legal in Texas---and one of the stupidest laws on the books.


Why is that stupid?

The last place you want your 18 daughter to learn about alcohol is at a frat house.
 
2013-03-10 08:06:08 PM  
kids were stealing their Dads beer out of the fridge long before i was born. good enough for me, good enough for them.
 
2013-03-10 08:18:36 PM  

ZackDanger: My understanding of the Massachusetts law has always been:

It is illegal to give anyone under 21 alcohol, unless that person is your child (or ward, or spouse).

So yes, the parent could order/purchase the drink in a restaurant, or bar, or any place and give it to their child without any trouble


And what is more even if one could argue that law forbids it, it unlikely that any jury would convict and the fact that the state happily allows millions of parents to give their kids alcohol would bring a question of selective enforcement that could get the charge struck down by the courts.
 
2013-03-10 08:24:39 PM  
I'll just leave this here.

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2013-03-10 08:38:19 PM  

mcreadyblue: olddinosaur: It is definitely legal in Texas---and one of the stupidest laws on the books.

Why is that stupid?

The last place you want your 18 daughter to learn about alcohol is at a frat house.


you mean the first place?
what are you like gay or something
 
2013-03-10 09:10:21 PM  

pudgyv: When did the law become ambiguous? You can give your own children alcohol (but nobody else's children) inside your own home. It's been that way for over 20 years.


Thanks for clearing that up. You might want to let the Supreme Judicial Court that they can stop worrying about it.
 
2013-03-10 10:18:39 PM  
In Wisconsin you can drink with your child in a bar.

/or so I've been told...
 
2013-03-10 10:35:18 PM  
We dont have this problem in Wisconsin, it is absolutely 100% legal to purchase and consume alcohol with your minor child.

At least there is some common sense and logic left somewhere in the United States.
 
2013-03-11 06:17:17 AM  
Wasn't it Oklahoma that made it illegal for people under 21 to drink anything for a while?

Around here they force stores to put up signs saying it is illegal to buy your own kid booze but that isn't in the law.
 
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