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2013-03-10 01:17:31 PM
If you meet a 14 year old girl on the internet chances are she's a 32 year old cop.
 
2013-03-10 01:24:03 PM

teto85: If you meet a 14 year old girl on the internet chances are she's a 32 year old cop.


Well, where am I supposed to meet 14 year old girls then? Nobody goes to the mall anymore.

Things were so much simpler in the '80s.

/oblig (or should be anyway)
 
2013-03-10 02:05:39 PM
Oblig:

lawcomic.net
 
2013-03-10 02:06:34 PM
FTFA: The "girl" Brian Jansen, 36, was communicated with was a undercover detective...

Okay, goddammit. Seriously. The very FIRST sentence is a grammar clusterfark. What the fark happened to education in this country?
 
2013-03-10 02:22:07 PM

teto85: If you meet a 14 year old girl on the internet chances are she's a 32 year old cop.


where do you go to meet 32 year old cops
 
2013-03-10 02:23:15 PM
The "girl" Brian Jansen, 36, was communicated with was a undercover detective for the Daytona Beach Police Department.

In related news, pricipal caught sayof.
 
2013-03-10 02:32:21 PM
He also said if a 14-year-old girl had actually answered the door, he would never have had sexual relations with her.

So he was just showing up to warn her about people like him?
 
2013-03-10 02:37:08 PM
Why the hell would ANYONE at this point think a "hot 14 year old girl" on the internet wasn't a troll job, a cop, or perverted-justice.com (combination of troll job and cop)

Cripes.

c/s/b: 18 yrs ago I used to be on some of the same irc channels as these perverted justice guys, I watched them cut their teeth trolling what were known as "hngs" or horny net guys. It was great fun, all the regulars on irc did it.

Then these dorks went and made a career of it.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-03-10 02:46:47 PM
where do you go to meet 32 year old cops

I met a semi-hot 32-ish female cop while I was walking down the street and she was waiting for a detail* job. We exchanged a few words and I resumed walking because my brain screams "bad idea!" when I contemplate getting involved with a cop.

* In Massachusetts police make a large fraction of their pay through work details. A city will pass an ordinance saying you can't do any work on the street or sidewalk without hiring a police officer to watch. Minimum 4 hour shift. There was probably some utility line work to be done later that morning.
 
2013-03-10 03:24:49 PM
Don't tell me how to run my life.
 
2013-03-10 04:27:12 PM
bbsimg.ngfiles.com

/Oblig
 
2013-03-10 04:27:58 PM
Ah the internet: where the women are actually men, the men are actually 14 year old kids, and the 14 year old kids are actually cops.
 
2013-03-10 05:20:28 PM

ZAZ: where do you go to meet 32 year old cops

I met a semi-hot 32-ish female cop while I was walking down the street and she was waiting for a detail* job. We exchanged a few words and I resumed walking because my brain screams "bad idea!" when I contemplate getting involved with a cop was rejected.


FTFY
 
2013-03-10 05:21:38 PM

Generation_D: Why the hell would ANYONE at this point think a "hot 14 year old girl" on the internet wasn't a troll job, a cop, or perverted-justice.com (combination of troll job and cop)

Cripes.

c/s/b: 18 yrs ago I used to be on some of the same irc channels as these perverted justice guys, I watched them cut their teeth trolling what were known as "hngs" or horny net guys. It was great fun, all the regulars on irc did it.

Then these dorks went and made a career of it.


As much as I hate hngs, perverted-justice does some pretty shiaty and borderline-legal things.
 
2013-03-10 05:21:52 PM

Spad31: FTFA: The "girl" Brian Jansen, 36, was communicated with was a undercover detective...

Okay, goddammit. Seriously. The very FIRST sentence is a grammar clusterfark. What the fark happened to education in this country?


Agreed. I read it three times to make sure my brain had not turned to whipped mashed potatoes.  On first reading, the girl's name is Brian, and the "with" blows it up a second time.

/Boiling my potatoes now.
 
2013-03-10 05:22:12 PM
"the athletics instructor asked if the girl was actually a cop but didn't get a response and went to the meet-up location anyway "

media.tumblr.com
 
2013-03-10 05:22:26 PM

FloydA: Ah the internet: where the women are actually men, the men are actually 14 year old kids, and the 14 year old kids are actually cops.


* and everyone is a lawyer
 
2013-03-10 05:22:28 PM
I'm waiting for someone to predate on a catcher.

Probably already been a Law & Order episode. Pretty easy plot to draw up, Chris Hanson type is found shot dead in the street, reports of a hoody wearing person caught fleeing the scene, detectives interrogate string of men caught but not convicted, eventually turns out to have been the daughter of a person who committed suicide after being ruined by catcher.

And for any normal male the personality of the 14 year old girl is generally enough to deter them. When you have a 32 year old person saying they're 14 the personality isn't sufficient to send grown men screaming about the degeneracy of this generation.
 
2013-03-10 05:23:13 PM

Spad31: FTFA: The "girl" Brian Jansen, 36, was communicated with was a undercover detective...

Okay, goddammit. Seriously. The very FIRST sentence is a grammar clusterfark. What the fark happened to education in this country?


Their be nuttin wrong with that there grammer Mr. Fancy educashun.
 
2013-03-10 05:29:52 PM

teto85: If you meet a 14 year old girl on the internet chances are she's a 32 year old cop.


Oh the irony of a 33 y/o cop in my hometown being investigated for soliciting a 13 y/o girl for sex online.  He's suspended with pay,  of course.

/not florida
 
2013-03-10 05:33:13 PM
Hai Guyz!

I jus turn14 yeah. Yayy! So momma n pops r goin out 2 c a film.
Ne1 want 2 party wi me?

My name is Priscilla but every1 calls me Candy becos Im so sweeeeeeeeeeet. LOL!
Some friends call me Virgin. I think dats becos my middle name is Virginia.
Can u tell me what does Virgin mean?
 
2013-03-10 05:35:57 PM

Spad31: FTFA: The "girl" Brian Jansen, 36, was communicated with was a undercover detective...

Okay, goddammit. Seriously. The very FIRST sentence is a grammar clusterfark. What the fark happened to education in this country?


Yep. Sadly that happens in a lot of Orlando Sentinel and Sun Sentinel articles, especially the Sun Sentinel. Pretty sure they farm the work out to the local elementary school and fired all the editors.
 
2013-03-10 05:42:33 PM
Stories make it to fark all the time where teachers are banging students and moms are banging their kid's friends. Why aren't there any stings setup to catch female pedophiles?
 
2013-03-10 05:45:47 PM

louiedog: Stories make it to fark all the time where teachers are banging students and moms are banging their kid's friends. Why aren't there any stings setup to catch female pedophiles?


I'd say they're more likely to be opportunistic, such as those under their care, rather than sort out like male paedophiles.
 
2013-03-10 05:47:19 PM
Don't worry, I'm just a 13 year old boy pretending to be a 32 year old man to get 13 year old girls to talk to me on the internet. Who goes to jail when I send them naked pictures?
 
2013-03-10 05:47:27 PM

GungFu: Hai Guyz!

I jus turn14 yeah. Yayy! So momma n pops r goin out 2 c a film.
Ne1 want 2 party wi me?

My name is Priscilla but every1 calls me Candy becos Im so sweeeeeeeeeeet. LOL!
Some friends call me Virgin. I think dats becos my middle name is Virginia.
Can u tell me what does Virgin mean?


You tried too hard. A 14 y/o that doesn't know what a virgin is? On the internet?
 
2013-03-10 05:50:25 PM
Aboriginal societies commonly have such relationships.  Crazy how all of those kids grow up such an emotional wreck...oh wait.
 
2013-03-10 05:52:29 PM

Spad31: FTFA: The "girl" Brian Jansen, 36, was communicated with was a undercover detective...

Okay, goddammit. Seriously. The very FIRST sentence is a grammar clusterfark. What the fark happened to education in this country?


Second. As in, I agree with you.

Also like such as, it was the second sentence.
 
2013-03-10 05:53:51 PM

randomjsa: GungFu: Hai Guyz!

I jus turn14 yeah. Yayy! So momma n pops r goin out 2 c a film.
Ne1 want 2 party wi me?

My name is Priscilla but every1 calls me Candy becos Im so sweeeeeeeeeeet. LOL!
Some friends call me Virgin. I think dats becos my middle name is Virginia.
Can u tell me what does Virgin mean?

You tried too hard. A 14 y/o that doesn't know what a virgin is? On the internet?


R U a Cop?
 
2013-03-10 06:00:58 PM
1. No means no  (for one side)
2. Just say no  (for the other)

If in doubt, wait it out.

one in the bush equals two in the slammer  (or is that the other way around?  does that work?)

/so many catchphrases to prevent stupidity...
 
2013-03-10 06:01:28 PM
"How do I get 12-year-old girls excited?"
 
2013-03-10 06:06:04 PM
This can only lead to one thing.

When pedophiles start chatting up 14 year olds on the internet they'll just have to be careful not to say anything that might incriminate them until they have a chance to stalk them first and make sure they really do go to junior high.

Or maybe not. I used to watch To Catch a Predator. Those guys were some seriously stupid (and creepy) people - especially that one who got busted by Chris Hansen twice.

I don't think they ever did it, but it would be interesting to hear some of their stats. How many people did they engage on the internet that seemed interested even after finding out they were talking to a minor but never followed through with a visit?
 
2013-03-10 06:07:20 PM
News flash:  undercover cops are allowed to lie when asked, "Are you a cop?"

http://www.snopes.com/risque/hookers/cop.asp

I really wish that stupid urban legend would die already.

On the other hand, by now, people should realize that if you're an adult, the 14 year old girl you're interacting with on the internet is probably a cop.  So maybe this is just an IQ test.  I mean, how long has Chris Hansen been on the air, and how many news stories are there like this?
 
2013-03-10 06:07:48 PM
So why did they arrest the cop?
 
2013-03-10 06:09:18 PM
"I knew it, I knew it. My life is over. I made a stupid decision," he said.

Enjoy your public defender.  No decent defense attorney is going to risk his record after that...
 
2013-03-10 06:11:10 PM
Bloodninja: Baby, I been havin a tough night so treat me nice aight?
BritneySpears14: Aight.
Bloodninja: Slip out of those pants baby, yeah.
BritneySpears14: I slip out of my pants, just for you, Bloodninja.
Bloodninja: Oh yeah, aight. Aight, I put on my robe and wizard hat.
BritneySpears14: Oh, I like to play dress up.
Bloodninja: Me too baby.
BritneySpears14: I kiss you softly on your chest.
Bloodninja: I cast Lvl 3 Eroticism. You turn into a real beautiful woman.
BritneySpears14: Hey...
Bloodninja: I meditate to regain my mana, before casting Lvl 8 Penis of the Infinite.
BritneySpears14: Funny I still don't see it.
Bloodninja: I spend my mana reserves to cast Mighty of the Beyondness.
BritneySpears14: You are the worst cyber partner ever. This is ridiculous.
Bloodninja: Don't f**k with me biznitch, I'm the mightiest sorcerer of the lands.
Bloodninja: I steal yo soul and cast Lightning Lvl 1,000,000 Your body explodes into a fine bloody mist, because you are only a Lvl 2 Druid.
BritneySpears14: Don't ever message me again you piece.
Bloodninja: Robots are trying to drill my brain but my lightning shield inflicts DOA attack, leaving the robots as flaming piles of metal.
Bloodninja: King Arthur congratulates me for destroying Dr. Robotnik's evil army of Robot Socialist Republics. The cold war ends. Reagan steals my accomplishments and makes like it was cause of him.
Bloodninja: You still there baby? I think it's getting hard now.
Bloodninja: Baby?
 
2013-03-10 06:12:38 PM

Happy Hours: This can only lead to one thing.

When pedophiles start chatting up 14 year olds on the internet they'll just have to be careful not to say anything that might incriminate them until they have a chance to stalk them first and make sure they really do go to junior high.

Or maybe not. I used to watch To Catch a Predator. Those guys were some seriously stupid (and creepy) people - especially that one who got busted by Chris Hansen twice.

I don't think they ever did it, but it would be interesting to hear some of their stats. How many people did they engage on the internet that seemed interested even after finding out they were talking to a minor but never followed through with a visit?


Ever spend time in a chat room? The guys that these stings catch are not pedophiles, but usually just desperate guys. They would be more likely to message a woman 20-30 than a 14 year old. These stings just make it so the DA looks like he is catching pedos, but in reality, pedos are more likely to be someone who actually knows the children.

Also, pedophiles are after children, not teenagers.
 
2013-03-10 06:14:23 PM
I wanna be the first to pose as a 32 yr old guy and go after all the illegal 14 yr old girls trying to hook up with me.
 
2013-03-10 06:17:23 PM

Brakefornobody: "How do I get 12-year-old girls excited?"


Came for exactly that. That moment and the closing sequences were fantastic. (The library date was very Raj)
 
2013-03-10 06:22:21 PM

geekbikerskum: News flash:  undercover cops are allowed to lie when asked, "Are you a cop?"

http://www.snopes.com/risque/hookers/cop.asp

I really wish that stupid urban legend would die already.


Me too, I get tired of having to tell people (not hookers) that I'm not a cop.  I don't care what law you're about to break, and just because I have short hair and shave regularly doesn't mean I'm law enforcement.
 
2013-03-10 06:24:02 PM

wildcardjack: I'm waiting for someone to predate on a catcher.

Probably already been a Law & Order episode.


NCIS, season 3, episode 13.
 
2013-03-10 06:25:08 PM
Dumbass.  You don't ask, "Are you a cop?"  The cops are allowed to lie.

/You ask, "Hey, you were just roleplaying when you said you were 14, right?  You're really of legal age?"
 
2013-03-10 06:26:27 PM
I could totally take a 14 year old cop
 
2013-03-10 06:26:49 PM

rogue49: 1. No means no  (for one side)
2. Just say no  (for the other)

If in doubt, wait it out.

one in the bush equals two in the slammer  (or is that the other way around?  does that work?)

/so many catchphrases to prevent stupidity...


It's not the size of the grass on the field, but if there's motion on the ocean play ball.
 
2013-03-10 06:37:24 PM

Happy Hours: This can only lead to one thing.

When pedophiles start chatting up 14 year olds on the internet they'll just have to be careful not to say anything that might incriminate them until they have a chance to stalk them first and make sure they really do go to junior high.

Or maybe not. I used to watch To Catch a Predator. Those guys were some seriously stupid (and creepy) people - especially that one who got busted by Chris Hansen twice.

I don't think they ever did it, but it would be interesting to hear some of their stats. How many people did they engage on the internet that seemed interested even after finding out they were talking to a minor but never followed through with a visit?




How many people actually find minors on the Internet to molest?

Stats I have seen say 99% are known to the minor(e.g. relatives, priests, teachers, etc. ).
 
2013-03-10 06:39:49 PM
Perverted Justice must have come across an underage boy pretending to be an older guy trying to get with an underage girl..... All those people and that's never happened? ....Just want to see how pissed off he gets for wasting his time.

/I assume his mom would have dropped him off with condoms and wine coolers
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-03-10 06:40:59 PM
/You ask, "Hey, you were just roleplaying when you said you were 14, right? You're really of legal age?"

Some guys use the "I knew it was an adult all along" defense. You tend to hear about the cases where it didn't work. Prosecutors rarely put out press releases boasting that the jury returned a not guilty verdict in the case of People v. Studman.
 
2013-03-10 06:41:16 PM
How about not proceeding to have sex with any 14-year-old girl at all? Why is that too much to ask? Surely you can convince a woman of legal age to have sex with you, and if not, then you don't deserve to get laid, and should stay on good terms with your hand.
 
2013-03-10 06:50:16 PM

LarryDan43: Don't worry, I'm just a 13 year old boy pretending to be a 32 year old man to get 13 year old girls to talk to me on the internet. Who goes to jail when I send them naked pictures?


EVERYBODY!
 
2013-03-10 06:51:45 PM

geekbikerskum: News flash:  undercover cops are allowed to lie when asked, "Are you a cop?"

http://www.snopes.com/risque/hookers/cop.asp

I really wish that stupid urban legend would die already.

On the other hand, by now, people should realize that if you're an adult, the 14 year old girl you're interacting with on the internet is probably a cop.  So maybe this is just an IQ test.  I mean, how long has Chris Hansen been on the air, and how many news stories are there like this?


If watching documentaries are anything to go by, streetwalkers soon realised the 'Are you a cop' route was pointless and instead asked what they thought were johns to show them their cocks to be sure.

I suppose if a cop went around showing their cocks, it might not look too good or something.
Anyway, which leads me to think why they do something similiar online?

If some teen is open to be farked by some stranger, then they would be damn open to showing their openings on camera first. Now THAT's how you know she's not a cop!

/can I patent this idea?
 
2013-03-10 06:53:12 PM
So, if I'm a 42-year-old man who wants to meet a 32-year-old cop, I should get online and pretend to be a 36-year-old man and look for the nearest 14-year-old girl, and then after we've established that we're attracted to each other, I'll reveal that my plan all along was to fake interest in the fake 14-year-old because I was REALLY looking for a 32-year-old cop, and I knew that the best way to find one was to oh my god i've gone cross-eyed what-
 
2013-03-10 06:55:00 PM

machoprogrammer: Happy Hours: This can only lead to one thing.

When pedophiles start chatting up 14 year olds on the internet they'll just have to be careful not to say anything that might incriminate them until they have a chance to stalk them first and make sure they really do go to junior high.

Or maybe not. I used to watch To Catch a Predator. Those guys were some seriously stupid (and creepy) people - especially that one who got busted by Chris Hansen twice.

I don't think they ever did it, but it would be interesting to hear some of their stats. How many people did they engage on the internet that seemed interested even after finding out they were talking to a minor but never followed through with a visit?

Ever spend time in a chat room? The guys that these stings catch are not pedophiles, but usually just desperate guys. They would be more likely to message a woman 20-30 than a 14 year old. These stings just make it so the DA looks like he is catching pedos, but in reality, pedos are more likely to be someone who actually knows the children.

Also, pedophiles are after children, not teenagers.


I haven't spent a lot of time in chat rooms. I did briefly back in the '90s. I was talking to women my age or slightly older. Even though I was much younger back then, if a 14 year old had popped up, I would have ignored her.

I just wasn't interested in girls that age when I was much older than that. That's why I don't believe Perverted Justice is entrapping people. Those people that get busted by them wanted minors. I am just wondering how many people wanted minors, but didn't go so far as to take the bait.

HempHead: How many people actually find minors on the Internet to molest?


Wrong question. How many people try to find minors on the internet?

Stats I have seen say 99% are known to the minor(e.g. relatives, priests, teachers, etc. ).

Yeah, the vast majority are but that's probably because those are the easiest prey/ I wouldn't be surprised if To Catch a Predator actually inspired some pedos.....or excuse me, what's the proper term? I always forget.

Anyway, there were probably some people watching who said to themselves? "Really? I can find young teens on the internet?  I just have to make sure they're not Chris Hansen."
 
2013-03-10 06:57:25 PM
I think that in order for this sort of sting to be legal, the cop should have to ACTUALLY BE a 14-year-old girl.

Think about it. A whole squad of 14-year-old girl cops trained to talk dirty online. It could be a whole new industry.
 
2013-03-10 07:03:16 PM

Happy Hours: Or maybe not. I used to watch To Catch a Predator. Those guys were some seriously stupid (and creepy) people - especially that one who got busted by Chris Hansen twice.


Which is why I don't think these sorts of operations are actually catching sexual predators, and are instead just catching idiots and dumb-asses. Real ephebophiles probably aren't this dumb. The ones who do get caught probably did it on the spur-of-the-moment without thinking above the waist. They're the kind of people who would get caught doing some other dumb thing if it weren't this.

The ones I find hilarious are the ones who try to claim that they were just worried about the girl because her parents left her alone, and they were coming to check on her and make sure she was okay.

Riiiight.
 
2013-03-10 07:05:40 PM

GonzoNihilist: Oh the irony of a 33 y/o cop in my hometown being investigated for soliciting a 13 y/o girl for sex online.  He's suspended with pay,  of course.


Link? I call BS on the "suspended with pay" thing.
 
2013-03-10 07:09:39 PM

ZeroCorpse: Happy Hours: Or maybe not. I used to watch To Catch a Predator. Those guys were some seriously stupid (and creepy) people - especially that one who got busted by Chris Hansen twice.

Which is why I don't think these sorts of operations are actually catching sexual predators, and are instead just catching idiots and dumb-asses. Real ephebophiles probably aren't this dumb. The ones who do get caught probably did it on the spur-of-the-moment without thinking above the waist. They're the kind of people who would get caught doing some other dumb thing if it weren't this.

The ones I find hilarious are the ones who try to claim that they were just worried about the girl because her parents left her alone, and they were coming to check on her and make sure she was okay.

Riiiight.


real sexual predators don't even exist.

these "men" that women say their dicks should be cut off and castrated for raping someone...

seriously did you even witness said crime take place?
how do you even know it is castration worthy
 
2013-03-10 07:12:25 PM

Jon iz teh kewl: ZeroCorpse: Happy Hours: Or maybe not. I used to watch To Catch a Predator. Those guys were some seriously stupid (and creepy) people - especially that one who got busted by Chris Hansen twice.

Which is why I don't think these sorts of operations are actually catching sexual predators, and are instead just catching idiots and dumb-asses. Real ephebophiles probably aren't this dumb. The ones who do get caught probably did it on the spur-of-the-moment without thinking above the waist. They're the kind of people who would get caught doing some other dumb thing if it weren't this.

The ones I find hilarious are the ones who try to claim that they were just worried about the girl because her parents left her alone, and they were coming to check on her and make sure she was okay.

Riiiight.

real sexual predators don't even exist.

these "men" that women say their dicks should be cut off and castrated for raping someone...

seriously did you even witness said crime take place?
how do you even know it is castration worthy


And remember, rape is about violence, not sex.  Because lots of boxers cum in their shorts.
 
2013-03-10 07:15:53 PM

ZeroCorpse: So, if I'm a 42-year-old man who wants to meet a 32-year-old cop, I should get online and pretend to be a 36-year-old man and look for the nearest 14-year-old girl, and then after we've established that we're attracted to each other, I'll reveal that my plan all along was to fake interest in the fake 14-year-old because I was REALLY looking for a 32-year-old cop, and I knew that the best way to find one was to oh my god i've gone cross-eyed what?

Y

ou ain't the only one brother......
 
2013-03-10 07:19:05 PM

CreampuffCasperMilktoast: Perverted Justice must have come across an underage boy pretending to be an older guy trying to get with an underage girl..... All those people and that's never happened? ....Just want to see how pissed off he gets for wasting his time.

/I assume his mom would have dropped him off with condoms and wine coolers


Those get weeded out with a phone call, actually.
 
2013-03-10 07:27:29 PM

FloydA: Ah the internet: where the women are actually men, the men are actually 14 year old kids, and the 14 year old kids are actually cops.


So that means we just need some women pretending to be cops online, and then the circle is complete.
 
2013-03-10 07:27:51 PM
The "girl" Brian Jansen, 36, was communicated with was a undercover detective for the Daytona Beach Police Department.

Journalists For Whom English Is A Second Language Association?
 
2013-03-10 07:40:31 PM

Verzio: Dumbass.  You don't ask, "Are you a cop?"  The cops are allowed to lie.

/You ask, "Hey, you were just roleplaying when you said you were 14, right?  You're really of legal age?"


That only really works when you are talking up the 'dad' or 'step-dad' who is pimping his minor and really, it would be a bit of a turnoff to an actual kid or someone pimping their kid, which is the last thing a real perv would want to do.  There are better ways of determining if it is a cop.

Plus, beware of circumstantial evidence.  You can still get convicted, legitimately, despite saying something like that, although obviously much more difficult.

The thing is, the real pervs who are going after young teens tend to want it so badly that they ignore all of the warning signs that they are talking to a cop.  Even when they do things to make sure the kid/dad is legit, they go ahead anyway when those things don't work out.
 
2013-03-10 07:48:15 PM

Happy Hours: I just wasn't interested in girls that age when I was much older than that. That's why I don't believe Perverted Justice is entrapping people. Those people that get busted by them wanted minors. I am just wondering how many people wanted minors, but didn't go so far as to take the bait.


That is where you are wrong. I have read stories from former PJ members where they essentially begged the guy to come over and send pictures. Then they doctor the chat logs.

BTW, chat logs should never be allowed as evidence. They are beyond easy to doctor.
 
2013-03-10 07:50:53 PM

machoprogrammer: Happy Hours: I just wasn't interested in girls that age when I was much older than that. That's why I don't believe Perverted Justice is entrapping people. Those people that get busted by them wanted minors. I am just wondering how many people wanted minors, but didn't go so far as to take the bait.

That is where you are wrong. I have read stories from former PJ members where they essentially begged the guy to come over and send pictures. Then they doctor the chat logs.

BTW, chat logs should never be allowed as evidence. They are beyond easy to doctor.


To expand on this, basically NBC wanted them to humiliate "pedophiles", so they paid them a bonus for each guy they could get on the show. Needless to say, this lead to some bad stuff to get the guys to come over.

The show actually led to a $200 million lawsuit when one of the guys refused to come over, then the cops and NBC went after him anyway, and he offed himself. His family sued NBC.
 
2013-03-10 07:54:46 PM

machoprogrammer: Happy Hours: I just wasn't interested in girls that age when I was much older than that. That's why I don't believe Perverted Justice is entrapping people. Those people that get busted by them wanted minors. I am just wondering how many people wanted minors, but didn't go so far as to take the bait.

That is where you are wrong. I have read stories from former PJ members where they essentially begged the guy to come over and send pictures. Then they doctor the chat logs.

BTW, chat logs should never be allowed as evidence. They are beyond easy to doctor.


There may be cases where PJ went too far, but you've see To Catch a Predator, right?

You don't think those guys were looking for some underage action? Seriously, I haven't spent a lot of time in chatrooms, but like I said upthread I did briefly in the '90s and there's no way someone posing as a 14 year old could have seduced me.
 
2013-03-10 07:55:04 PM

machoprogrammer: machoprogrammer: Happy Hours: I just wasn't interested in girls that age when I was much older than that. That's why I don't believe Perverted Justice is entrapping people. Those people that get busted by them wanted minors. I am just wondering how many people wanted minors, but didn't go so far as to take the bait.

That is where you are wrong. I have read stories from former PJ members where they essentially begged the guy to come over and send pictures. Then they doctor the chat logs.

BTW, chat logs should never be allowed as evidence. They are beyond easy to doctor.

To expand on this, basically NBC wanted them to humiliate "pedophiles", so they paid them a bonus for each guy they could get on the show. Needless to say, this lead to some bad stuff to get the guys to come over.

The show actually led to a $200 million lawsuit when one of the guys refused to come over, then the cops and NBC went after him anyway, and he offed himself. His family sued NBC.


Self righteous morons on a power trip with the blessing of the ignorant masses behind them can be an awfully powerful and dangerous thing.
 
2013-03-10 08:27:53 PM

Zarquon's Flat Tire: geekbikerskum: News flash:  undercover cops are allowed to lie when asked, "Are you a cop?"

http://www.snopes.com/risque/hookers/cop.asp

I really wish that stupid urban legend would die already.

Me too, I get tired of having to tell people (not hookers) that I'm not a cop.  I don't care what law you're about to break, and just because I have short hair and shave regularly doesn't mean I'm law enforcement.


i've heard that one may distinguish between whether or not a hooker is legit or police is by explaining to them you don't want sex. you are a amateur photographer wiling to pay a adult female model to pose nude. you are not requesting sex for money, you broke no law. police are probably not going to pose nude for pics. take it from there at the right time.
 
2013-03-10 08:32:08 PM
I got pinged by a 14 year old a few years back. She wanted me to take her to a concert that night. She started sending me racy pics and said she would blow me in the car.

I lectured her on the dangers of putting herself out there like that. It didn't dawn on me until later that it was probably a cop.

/kids these days
//now get off my lawn
 
2013-03-10 08:40:32 PM

Silly Jesus: Jon iz teh kewl: ZeroCorpse: Happy Hours: Or maybe not. I used to watch To Catch a Predator. Those guys were some seriously stupid (and creepy) people - especially that one who got busted by Chris Hansen twice.

Which is why I don't think these sorts of operations are actually catching sexual predators, and are instead just catching idiots and dumb-asses. Real ephebophiles probably aren't this dumb. The ones who do get caught probably did it on the spur-of-the-moment without thinking above the waist. They're the kind of people who would get caught doing some other dumb thing if it weren't this.

The ones I find hilarious are the ones who try to claim that they were just worried about the girl because her parents left her alone, and they were coming to check on her and make sure she was okay.

Riiiight.

real sexual predators don't even exist.

these "men" that women say their dicks should be cut off and castrated for raping someone...

seriously did you even witness said crime take place?
how do you even know it is castration worthy

And remember, rape is about violence, not sex.  Because lots of boxers cum in their shorts.


violence isn't even real.  i have YET to see it.
 
2013-03-10 08:42:43 PM

KrispyKritter: i've heard that one may distinguish between whether or not a hooker is legit or police is by explaining to them you don't want sex. you are a amateur photographer wiling to pay a adult female model to pose nude. you are not requesting sex for money, you broke no law. police are probably not going to pose nude for pics. take it from there at the right time.


Unless they work for Sheriff Joke:

Okay, they didn't pose for pics, but close enough:

About 60 people arrested last year in a prostitution sting will not be criminally charged because Maricopa County sheriff's deputies used tactics including nudity and sexual contact in their undercover operations, county prosecutors announced Tuesday.
 
2013-03-10 09:25:04 PM

Happy Hours: KrispyKritter: i've heard that one may distinguish between whether or not a hooker is legit or police is by explaining to them you don't want sex. you are a amateur photographer wiling to pay a adult female model to pose nude. you are not requesting sex for money, you broke no law. police are probably not going to pose nude for pics. take it from there at the right time.

Unless they work for Sheriff Joke:

Okay, they didn't pose for pics, but close enough:

About 60 people arrested last year in a prostitution sting will not be criminally charged because Maricopa County sheriff's deputies used tactics including nudity and sexual contact in their undercover operations, county prosecutors announced Tuesday.


And another one from Sheriff Joe's hell hole.  Maricopa County  needs it's own tag.
 
2013-03-10 09:47:36 PM

Silly Jesus: machoprogrammer: machoprogrammer: Happy Hours: I just wasn't interested in girls that age when I was much older than that. That's why I don't believe Perverted Justice is entrapping people. Those people that get busted by them wanted minors. I am just wondering how many people wanted minors, but didn't go so far as to take the bait.

That is where you are wrong. I have read stories from former PJ members where they essentially begged the guy to come over and send pictures. Then they doctor the chat logs.

BTW, chat logs should never be allowed as evidence. They are beyond easy to doctor.

To expand on this, basically NBC wanted them to humiliate "pedophiles", so they paid them a bonus for each guy they could get on the show. Needless to say, this lead to some bad stuff to get the guys to come over.

The show actually led to a $200 million lawsuit when one of the guys refused to come over, then the cops and NBC went after him anyway, and he offed himself. His family sued NBC.

Self righteous morons on a power trip with the blessing of the ignorant masses behind them can be an awfully powerful and dangerous thing.


Exactly.

Happy Hours: machoprogrammer: Happy Hours: I just wasn't interested in girls that age when I was much older than that. That's why I don't believe Perverted Justice is entrapping people. Those people that get busted by them wanted minors. I am just wondering how many people wanted minors, but didn't go so far as to take the bait.

That is where you are wrong. I have read stories from former PJ members where they essentially begged the guy to come over and send pictures. Then they doctor the chat logs.

BTW, chat logs should never be allowed as evidence. They are beyond easy to doctor.

There may be cases where PJ went too far, but you've see To Catch a Predator, right?

You don't think those guys were looking for some underage action? Seriously, I haven't spent a lot of time in chatrooms, but like I said upthread I did briefly in the '90s and there's no way someone posing as a 14 year old could have seduced me.


Horny man + badgering "14 year old" should not equal jail time. But it does when a DA can use that to pad his election campaign.
 
2013-03-10 10:55:14 PM
I graduated with a guy that was on To Catch A Predator. No, I wasn't surprised. Dude was always "slow". Doesn't excuse him trying to hook up with what he thought was a 12 year old.
 
2013-03-10 11:06:14 PM

IAAl: Verzio: Dumbass.  You don't ask, "Are you a cop?"  The cops are allowed to lie.

/You ask, "Hey, you were just roleplaying when you said you were 14, right?  You're really of legal age?"

That only really works when . . .


Because, of course, I was giving serious advice on how to go about meeting 14-year-old girls.

/Have her take a picture of her bare breasts on which she's written "I AM 18!" while holding today's newspaper over her stomach.
 
2013-03-10 11:07:58 PM

ParagonComplex: I graduated with a guy that was on To Catch A Predator. No, I wasn't surprised. Dude was always "slow". Doesn't excuse him trying to hook up with what he thought was a 12 year old.


And what is it with these guys always bringing Wendy's or McDonald's or something when they're going to a 14-year-old's house for sex? Are they thinking, "Well, she's young and horny, but I think some french fries would seal the deal!" ?
 
2013-03-10 11:18:26 PM

ZeroCorpse: ParagonComplex: I graduated with a guy that was on To Catch A Predator. No, I wasn't surprised. Dude was always "slow". Doesn't excuse him trying to hook up with what he thought was a 12 year old.

And what is it with these guys always bringing Wendy's or McDonald's or something when they're going to a 14-year-old's house for sex? Are they thinking, "Well, she's young and horny, but I think some french fries would seal the deal!" ?


He was actually one of the few that didn't bring anything, I don't think. It was the Bowling Green, Ky one. The expression he gave when he saw Chris Hanson was priceless. I don't know why he thought a 14 year old would want to bang a retarded fat fark like him anyway.
 
2013-03-10 11:20:25 PM

machoprogrammer: Silly Jesus: machoprogrammer: machoprogrammer: Happy Hours: I just wasn't interested in girls that age when I was much older than that. That's why I don't believe Perverted Justice is entrapping people. Those people that get busted by them wanted minors. I am just wondering how many people wanted minors, but didn't go so far as to take the bait.

That is where you are wrong. I have read stories from former PJ members where they essentially begged the guy to come over and send pictures. Then they doctor the chat logs.

BTW, chat logs should never be allowed as evidence. They are beyond easy to doctor.

To expand on this, basically NBC wanted them to humiliate "pedophiles", so they paid them a bonus for each guy they could get on the show. Needless to say, this lead to some bad stuff to get the guys to come over.

The show actually led to a $200 million lawsuit when one of the guys refused to come over, then the cops and NBC went after him anyway, and he offed himself. His family sued NBC.

Self righteous morons on a power trip with the blessing of the ignorant masses behind them can be an awfully powerful and dangerous thing.

Exactly.

Happy Hours: machoprogrammer: Happy Hours: I just wasn't interested in girls that age when I was much older than that. That's why I don't believe Perverted Justice is entrapping people. Those people that get busted by them wanted minors. I am just wondering how many people wanted minors, but didn't go so far as to take the bait.

That is where you are wrong. I have read stories from former PJ members where they essentially begged the guy to come over and send pictures. Then they doctor the chat logs.

BTW, chat logs should never be allowed as evidence. They are beyond easy to doctor.

There may be cases where PJ went too far, but you've see To Catch a Predator, right?

You don't think those guys were looking for some underage action? Seriously, I haven't spent a lot of time in chatrooms, but like I said upthread I did briefly in the ' ...


Prosecutor Kills Himself in Texas Raid Over Child Sex

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/07/us/07pedophile.html?_r=0

Unlike some suspects in pedophile stings that appear on "Dateline NBC," Mr. Conradt had not actually met the person he thought was the teenager, but Sergeant Robertson said he planned to do so. Perverted Justice staff members found profiles from Mr. Conradt on AOL, Yahoo and MySpace.com, Mr. Von Erck said. He also said that he thought Mr. Conradt had tried to erase at least one online profile, on MySpace.com, a popular online social networking community used mainly by teenagers, in the moments before he shot himself.

 
2013-03-10 11:34:32 PM

ZeroCorpse: And what is it with these guys always bringing Wendy's or McDonald's or something when they're going to a 14-year-old's house for sex? Are they thinking, "Well, she's young and horny, but I think some french fries would seal the deal!" ?


They're too cheap to bring a box of wine.
 
2013-03-10 11:48:21 PM
ZeroCorpse: ParagonComplex: I graduated with a guy that was on To Catch A Predator. No, I wasn't surprised. Dude was always "slow". Doesn't excuse him trying to hook up with what he thought was a 12 year old.

And what is it with these guys always bringing Wendy's or McDonald's or something when they're going to a 14-year-old's house for sex? Are they thinking, "Well, she's young and horny, but I think some french fries would seal the deal!" ?



He was actually one of the few that didn't bring anything, I don't think. It was the Bowling Green, Ky one. The expression he gave when he saw Chris Hanson was priceless. I don't know why he thought a 14 year old would want to bang a retarded fat fark like him anyway

.
I have mixed feelings about that show.  It reduced what is supposed to be a serious police investigation into pure television entertainment (and yeah, it was often admittedly hilarious).  And PJ was basically acting like vigilantes in a role that is supposed to be reserved for law enforcement.  And frankly, the  perps they were celebrating being nailed in these operations were such pathetic sadsacks.  I mean what teenager would have been remotely attracted to one of these morons?

Frankly, by the end, I was sort of hoping one of the perps was going to show up armed, flip out and takes out a couple of the PJ staffers (before being gunned down by the cops).  Unfortunately,  it never happened.
 
2013-03-11 12:33:13 AM
Why is it okay for a cop to pretend to be a 14 year old girl, but can't also deny being a cop when asked?
 
2013-03-11 12:36:00 AM

CruiserTwelve: GonzoNihilist: Oh the irony of a 33 y/o cop in my hometown being investigated for soliciting a 13 y/o girl for sex online.  He's suspended with pay,  of course.

Link? I call BS on the "suspended with pay" thing.


http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/story/2012/10/12/cornwall-polic e- prostitution-charges-surete-quebec.html
 
2013-03-11 12:47:32 AM

Spad31: FTFA: The "girl" Brian Jansen, 36, was communicated with was a undercover detective...

Okay, goddammit. Seriously. The very FIRST sentence is a grammar clusterfark. What the fark happened to education in this country?


thank you.
 
2013-03-11 12:53:30 AM
Well, was she hot?

/Ok, what's his fark handle?
 
2013-03-11 01:00:03 AM

GonzoNihilist: CruiserTwelve: GonzoNihilist: Oh the irony of a 33 y/o cop in my hometown being investigated for soliciting a 13 y/o girl for sex online.  He's suspended with pay,  of course.

Link? I call BS on the "suspended with pay" thing.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/story/2012/10/12/cornwall-polic e- prostitution-charges-surete-quebec.html


Wow! That dirtbag was suspended with pay for at least two years. In every case in the US I've ever seen, the "suspended with pay" goes away and becomes unpaid leave the minute charges are filed.
 
2013-03-11 01:42:01 AM

wildcardjack: I'm waiting for someone to predate on a catcher.


Took me several minutes to figure out you meant "prey."

Do you conversate, too?
 
2013-03-11 01:55:17 AM

ZeroCorpse: ParagonComplex: I graduated with a guy that was on To Catch A Predator. No, I wasn't surprised. Dude was always "slow". Doesn't excuse him trying to hook up with what he thought was a 12 year old.

And what is it with these guys always bringing Wendy's or McDonald's or something when they're going to a 14-year-old's house for sex? Are they thinking, "Well, she's young and horny, but I think some french fries would seal the deal!" ?


That's what 14 year-olds ask you to bring.  If she asks for donuts, you know she's a cop.
 
2013-03-11 04:18:03 AM
FTFA: "The "girl" Brian Jansen, 36, was communicated with was a undercover detective for the Daytona Beach Police Department. He was arrested Thursday. "

Still waiting for an explanation as to why the undercover detective was arrested.
 
2013-03-11 05:08:05 AM
If you meet a 14 year old girl on the internet... you tell her to come back in 4 years.
 
2013-03-11 05:18:19 AM
Where do people get the idea that cops have to tell the truth when asked if they are a cop?  Granted, it is a bit backwards, since if you are NOT a cop, and pretend to be one, you can get into a big heap of trouble.... or if you yourself lie to a cop.... or if you assume a real cop is lying when he identifies himself as a cop....

God, we citizens pretty much lose on all counts here....
 
2013-03-11 10:49:12 AM
Pumpernickel bread: Why is it okay for a cop to pretend to be a 14 year old girl, but can't also deny being a cop when asked?

See upthread...

geekbikerskum: News flash:  undercover cops are allowed to lie when asked, "Are you a cop?"

http://www.snopes.com/risque/hookers/cop.asp

I really wish that stupid urban legend would die already.

On the other hand, by now, people should realize that if you're an adult, the 14 year old girl you're interacting with on the internet is probably a cop.  So maybe this is just an IQ test.  I mean, how long has Chris Hansen been on the air, and how many news stories are there like this?


And I'm with skum, on this one, on all points stated - with the added note that if you're on the internet trying to land a 14-year-old girl for sex, you're probably not likely to pass ANY IQ test.
 
2013-03-11 11:33:08 AM

Spad31: FTFA: The "girl" Brian Jansen, 36, was communicated with was a undercover detective...

Okay, goddammit. Seriously. The very FIRST sentence is a grammar clusterfark. What the fark happened to education in this country?


The university professors all got busted for meeting "14 year olds"?
 
2013-03-11 12:18:50 PM

Altourus: Spad31: FTFA: The "girl" Brian Jansen, 36, was communicated with was a undercover detective...

Okay, goddammit. Seriously. The very FIRST sentence is a grammar clusterfark. What the fark happened to education in this country?

The university professors all got busted for meeting "14 year olds"?


There is a strong correlation between being edjumakated and being a prevert.
 
2013-03-11 01:23:29 PM

Jack_Knopf: I got pinged by a 14 year old a few years back. She wanted me to take her to a concert that night. She started sending me racy pics and said she would blow me in the car.

I lectured her on the dangers of putting herself out there like that. It didn't dawn on me until later that it was probably a cop.

/kids these days
//now get off my lawn


I would've said, "I'll take you to the concert... but nothing sexual."

Then i would've picked her up and said, "lol j/k"

/not really
 
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