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2013-03-11 12:00:34 AM  

Ishidan: meat0918: Remember folks, $600 billion per year to enable us to blow up sand into more sand and does nothing back home except give us wounded vets to take care of(which the GOP doesn't seem to care about either) and line the pockets of defense contractors is a good use of tax dollars, but $100 billion per year to take care of Americans is the worst socialism to ever socialize.

If history is any guide, it works like this:
Wounded vet comes back and says,
"I sacrificed for this country, send more guys to finish what I couldn't, ooo-rah, Merica!", then the GOP loves him.
Wounded vet comes back and says,
"So, uh, losing my legs here wasn't part of the deal...I got medical insurance for this shiat, right?  And college assistance so I can learn a desk job?", then the GOP could give a fark less.
Wounded vet comes back and says,
"Okay, that sucked and there's no good reason to send more American boys into that suck.  I am now against war, in fact I'm turning Democrat.", then not only does the GOP not care, they'll go out of their way to trivialize it and make up outright slander about it.


Theirs not to reason why,
Theirs but to do and die
 
2013-03-11 12:03:38 AM  
Get bent, Ryan. You lost.
 
2013-03-11 12:09:16 AM  

clowncar on fire: Job Creator: clowncar on fire: cameroncrazy1984: clowncar on fire: then make healthcare facilities jump through hoops to receive payment.

What? By all accounts Medicare is easier to deal with than private insurance.

Not to the medical facilities.  They are tying it to patient satisfaction ratings.  And, as everyone knows, patients are the happiest people in the world and are always happy to say nothing but good about their hospital stay.

So you're saying that government funding SHOULDN'T be tied to satisfactory service?
You also believe that tying school funding to student progress ratings is foolish, correct?

Hospitals provide the service of making people better- and are not intended to be a vacation resort. The question should be: did the hospital achieve this objective, did they fix what was broken?  You ask anyone stuck on their back for a week being directed to keep the TV turned down so as to not bother the other patients, requesting that they don't smoke, get up and wander around, put up with staff poking and prodding for fluids and vitals several times a day but not having a private nurse at your beck and call every time ennui sets in, or any other hospital unpleasantry to write a review, you don't expect to get high marks.

I understand that this is part of a drive to get hospitals to improve the over all hospital expirience.  The problem is, the government pays a very low flat rate- which the hospital is under obligation to accept-- and then proceeds to chip away at it by asking miserable people how that hospital expirience was.  That is wrong.  You rate hospitals based on the performance of a task such as properly removing a kidney stone or ablating a uterus, not how that after dinner mousse was.


Regarding schools:  Their job is to teach kids.  My rating of whether those teachers made great baby-sitters would not be as important as say, Johnny graduated with the ability to read and comprehend what he read- which would be the measure of whether the school had completed its task.  If a kid comes out biatching about how much school sucks (cause they'll do that the same way a patient will if he didn't like the menu or the physical therapist who made him do just one more leg lift) do we defund the school?  Not the school's place to make every kid happy, but it is their place to ensure they learn.
 
2013-03-11 12:14:07 AM  

AliceBToklasLives: [preview.turbosquid.com image 600x600]


You make a convincing argument for gun ownership if not sole for the purpose of self defense.  Nice going.
 
2013-03-11 12:21:30 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: The American public is so hungry to repeal Obamacare that stupid, they re-elected the guy who signed it.

  Had Al Franken's fraudulent election not happened, we might not be on the precipice of disaster.  ObamaCare is going to fark things up really nicely.  Your argument is invalid since this has all been documented.
 
2013-03-11 12:25:15 AM  

armoredbulldozer: cameroncrazy1984: The American public is so hungry to repeal Obamacare that stupid, they re-elected the guy who signed it.  Had Al Franken's fraudulent election not happened, we might not be on the precipice of disaster.  ObamaCare is going to fark things up really nicely.  Your argument is invalid since this has all been documented.


You are not Mike_LowELL. Stop being Mike_LowELL.
 
2013-03-11 12:32:36 AM  

jst3p: sdd2000: Virtual Pariah: Do we have the ability to recall some of the members of this Congress?

Yes every two years you get a chance

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nutsandolts.com
 
2013-03-11 12:55:57 AM  

armoredbulldozer: cameroncrazy1984: The American public is so hungry to repeal Obamacare that stupid, they re-elected the guy who signed it.  Had Al Franken's fraudulent election not happened, we might not be on the precipice of disaster.  ObamaCare is going to fark things up really nicely.  Your argument is invalid since this has all been documented.


And when your Doom Paul fantasies fail to come to pass, well, you'll just find some other cause to troll/hate on.

And we'll keep truckin' on, movin' this country forward, feasting on your delicious tears of impotent rage.

Please, proceed.
 
2013-03-11 01:00:50 AM  

And to the chuckleheads in Congress who still think Obamacare is a thing?

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"Please, proceed."
 
2013-03-11 01:05:48 AM  

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: Actually, I can attest to it. The part time thing is completely accurate. My employer put in a requirement that all non-management employees are prohibited from earning more than 27.95 hours to keep healthcare costs down. Any employee who does go over risks being terminated as well as the manager who did it.

http://www.kitchencollection.com/   my employer

http://www.nacco.com/   owning company of my employer


It is EXACTLY because of the healthcare bill. I do qualify for Medicaid vouchers on January 1st, so it's not unfair to me. The law is a good one, and I approve of the first step towards a comprehensive reform, but the actions are being felt (I was allowed up to 32 before the ACA became law). I blame corporate bootlickers.


Well, I heard a rumor around these parts that a certain truck stop company decided to implement a similar plan, only to have its CEO come flying back down from the corner office of his shiny new professional football toy to put a halt to that. Which is even more funny when you consider this certain CEO happens to come from a rock-rib Republican family. Sometimes customer service trumps party politics.
 
2013-03-11 01:30:24 AM  

Stile4aly: The simplest solution would be to do away with the chargemaster concept and standardize hospital billing procedures using Medicare as a model. If hospitals were required to abide by fair billing procedures then the whole system would work more effectively. You'd have closer connection to your actual cost of care, fewer chargeoffs and bankruptcies from inability to pay, and improved cost containment.


That would make too much sense. We can't do that because socialism.
 
2013-03-11 01:43:16 AM  

Fail in Human Form: You know what, I bought into the promise of "Obama Care".  I was wrong.  All I've seen are premiums go up, my friends who work part time get their hours severely reduced so the companies don't have to offer them care, the co-pay on everything double, and impending fines.  The status quo before wasn't sustainable... but this farking sucks.


Paid shills be posting.
 
2013-03-11 02:12:03 AM  

clowncar on fire: AliceBToklasLives: [preview.turbosquid.com image 600x600]

You make a convincing argument for gun ownership if not sole for the purpose of self defense.  Nice going.


Heh, oddly enough I can easily picture the likes of you running around like a freshly cleaved chicken wielding guns in both hands, shooting wildly at nothing at all. So I guess you do have sort of a point.
 
2013-03-11 02:27:41 AM  

clowncar on fire: Hospitals provide the service of making people better- and are not intended to be a vacation resort. The question should be: did the hospital achieve this objective, did they fix what was broken?  You ask anyone stuck on their back for a week being directed to keep the TV turned down so as to not bother the other patients, requesting that they don't smoke, get up and wander around, put up with staff poking and prodding for fluids and vitals several times a day but not having a private nurse at your beck and call every time ennui sets in, or any other hospital unpleasantry to write a review, you don't expect to get high marks.

I understand that this is part of a drive to get hospitals to improve the over all hospital expirience.  The problem is, the government pays a very low flat rate- which the hospital is under obligation to accept-- and then proceeds to chip away at it by asking miserable people how that hospital expirience was.  That is wrong.  You rate hospitals based on the performance of a task such as properly removing a kidney stone or ablating a uterus, not how that after dinner mousse was.


Ever stop to think that perhaps the healthcare industry isn't a good fit for you? You sound incredibly bitter.
 
2013-03-11 02:45:22 AM  
Same old song and dance. also that chicken is gonna file for a restraining order soon.
 
2013-03-11 05:35:19 AM  

Raharu: The GoP sure is LASER FOCUSED on Job.


If you mean making every non-billionaire suffer like Job, I agree.
 
2013-03-11 07:17:20 AM  
What a productive use of their time... Just look at all those jobs being created by the "job creatin'" GOP.
 
2013-03-11 07:45:47 AM  
Obamacare is going to be VERY BAD for this country. Most Farktards don't realize it, because they have never read it. They just drink the kool aid the liberal news media feeds them.
 
2013-03-11 07:52:01 AM  

Fail in Human Form: JesusJuice: Fail in Human Form: Generation_D: JesusJuice: Fail in Human Form: You know what, I bought into the promise of "Obama Care".  I was wrong.  All I've seen are premiums go up, my friends who work part time get their hours severely reduced so the companies don't have to offer them care, the co-pay on everything double, and impending fines.  The status quo before wasn't sustainable... but this farking sucks.

Paid shill's gonna shill.

Pretty much this. Or the worlds most incompetent employee when it comes to his own health care, who knows or cares.

Vague reasoning, no examples, just "it sucks now and this is why" without any citation.

Goin on my ignore, have a nice life troll.

Right, everyone who expresses their own concerns is a troll or a shill.  You won't see this but I'm glad you put me on ignore asshole.

It's possible you're every bit as stupid as you appear to be, but I prefer to believe that someone's paying you.  Welcome to my ignore list.

Is there someplace I can apply for this "shill" job I keep hearing about?  I could use the extra money.


Hello Matthew Stafford. Ignored list.
 
2013-03-11 08:18:58 AM  

Fail in Human Form: amyldoanitrite: Fail in Human Form: You know what, I bought into the promise of "Obama Care".  I was wrong.  All I've seen are premiums go up, my friends who work part time get their hours severely reduced so the companies don't have to offer them care, the co-pay on everything double, and impending fines.  The status quo before wasn't sustainable... but this farking sucks.

I don't know what state you live in, but here in CA, once our state starts its insurance exchange, my family of 4 can get coverage for $124/month at my current income level. This will also be the first time my wife will have had insurance in more than 10 years do to a pre-existing condition.

So yeah, Obamacare is pretty f'ing great from my POV. Would I prefer true single payer? You bet. But this is certainly an improvement.

Ohio and I pay more than that for just myself.


Here in NC I pay over $500 monthly for my wife and myself.

/state health insurance
//they don't have competitive bidding for the contract
///just give it to BCBS
////hey why are our premiums so high?
 
2013-03-11 08:36:13 AM  

Pick: Obamacare is going to be VERY BAD for this country. Most Farktards don't realize it, because they have never read it. They just drink the kool aid the liberal news media feeds them.


Needs more "SOSHULIZM!!" and a crying eagle GIF.
 
2013-03-11 08:49:45 AM  
The Democrats need to pass an unrealistic non-passable balanced budget also that is "balanced" through only tax increases on the wealthy and token measures that undo Ronalod Reagan's legacy like defunding the Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport; or better yet renaming it the Barack Hussein Obama Washington Nationalized Healthcare Airport.
 
2013-03-11 09:17:44 AM  

Generation_D: Fail in Human Form: You know what, I bought into the promise of "Obama Care".  I was wrong.  All I've seen are premiums go up, my friends who work part time get their hours severely reduced so the companies don't have to offer them care, the co-pay on everything double, and impending fines.  The status quo before wasn't sustainable... but this farking sucks.

You are full of sh*t. Histrionics without facts, and Obamacare hasn't even started yet! Just right wing nit wit noise, go eff yourself with a rusty pistol.


I heard that O.C. Doesn't even start until '14. Thanks Obama!
 
2013-03-11 09:28:16 AM  

heavymetal: The Democrats need to pass an unrealistic non-passable balanced budget also that is "balanced" through only tax increases on the wealthy and token measures that undo Ronalod Reagan's legacy like defunding the Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport; or better yet renaming it the Barack Hussein Obama Washington Nationalized Healthcare Airport.


This is exactly what Obama doesn't do, and it's a big part of the reason the Republican's tactics are effective as they are.
 
2013-03-11 09:44:03 AM  

heavymetal: The Democrats need to pass an unrealistic non-passable balanced budget also that is "balanced" through only tax increases on the wealthy and token measures that undo Ronalod Reagan's legacy like defunding the Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport; or better yet renaming it the Barack Hussein Obama Washington Nationalized Healthcare Airport.


Yes, because the best response to people being irresponsible and stupid is to be irresponsible and stupid right back.  What's your next advice, cops should get blitzed before they pull people over for a DUI?  "Dude, you were *hic* like, totally weaving an' shiat.  It was f*cking *hic* aweshome!  Give ush a high five, f*cker!"
 
2013-03-11 10:13:04 AM  

Jim_Tressel's_O-Face: And to the chuckleheads in Congress who still think Obamacare is a thing?

"Please, proceed."


Problem is, they have actual work to do.
 
2013-03-11 10:58:07 AM  

Harbinger of the Doomed Rat: heavymetal: The Democrats need to pass an unrealistic non-passable balanced budget also that is "balanced" through only tax increases on the wealthy and token measures that undo Ronalod Reagan's legacy like defunding the Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport; or better yet renaming it the Barack Hussein Obama Washington Nationalized Healthcare Airport.

Yes, because the best response to people being irresponsible and stupid is to be irresponsible and stupid right back.  What's your next advice, cops should get blitzed before they pull people over for a DUI?  "Dude, you were *hic* like, totally weaving an' shiat.  It was f*cking *hic* aweshome!  Give ush a high five, f*cker!"


I totally agree.
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2013-03-11 11:10:20 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: The American public is so hungry to repeal Obamacare that the re-elected the guy who signed it.


Sure Obama wion with a landslide, and they made seats in the senate, however,since the Democrats didn't get enough votes to defeat Republican gerrymandering of districts to win the congress back, the GOP have a clear mandate from the people that the health care reform is hated and must be dismantled.
 
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