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2013-03-10 03:37:54 PM  

nmrsnr: Again? Hasn't the House already repealed it like 5 times? Let it go man, it's gone.


I think the difference this time is the Obamacare-Benghazi Connection which all the all of the GOP politicians' constituents are asking them about whenever they go and whenever they see one but cannot name for a never ending string of reasons.

Or something like that.

One thing is for certain, the Republiturds are very concerned.

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2013-03-10 03:38:02 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: Fail in Human Form: Ohio and I pay more than that for just myself.

So, again, wait until the exchanges go in.

Also, Ohio must suck. I pay $44 a month for myself.


Honestly, I don't see it improving much with the exchanges but I hope I'm proved wrong.  I understand it has helped some people but here's my question.  When you look at it from my perspective (and those I know personally), and very tight budget, how much more should I be willing give up for another's benefit?  I don't say that as an evil "screw'em all" conservative.  I'm honestly asking.
 
2013-03-10 03:38:37 PM  
Fail in Human Form:
there is no "public option" so the exchanges are going to be private companies.

And why is this, again?
 
2013-03-10 03:38:41 PM  

Soup4Bonnie: WALLACE: Are you saying that as part of your budget you would repeal - you assume the repeal of Obamacare?

RYAN: Yes.

WALLACE:  Well that's not going to happen.


When even Fox News doesn't swallow your load, you have a losing hand.


Step 4: magic happens.
 
2013-03-10 03:38:49 PM  
The GOP continues to prove that they don't really care about the budget, and Obama continues to treat them as if they do.
 
2013-03-10 03:38:52 PM  

Princess Ryans Knickers: And still waiting on t hose JOBS we were promised by the GOP back in 2010


We did get hosed by the GOP back in 2010. Where have you been?
 
2013-03-10 03:39:54 PM  

Ishidan: Fail in Human Form:
there is no "public option" so the exchanges are going to be private companies.

And why is this, again?


The Republicans.  I'm not arguing who farked up the bill, I'm looking at the bill AS IT IS, from my perspective.
 
2013-03-10 03:40:06 PM  

Fail in Human Form: how much more should I be willing give up for another's benefit?


Answer: "Look to the Bible".
 
2013-03-10 03:40:19 PM  
Once again, I find it absolutely hilarious that Paul Ryan is considered to be a Republican policy wonk, an intellectual heavy lifter.
 
2013-03-10 03:40:44 PM  
Anyway, let's talk about how Fartfartacare, while nowhere near what is needed and must inevitably happen (single-payer or socialized healthcare), is incontrovertibly an improvement - terrible anecdotes aside - over the status quo ante and the brainchild of the Heritage Foundation and the Republicans. If they had half a farking brain between them they'd be taking credit for it. God knows their single-digit IQ voting base will just shift gears to supporting it like they always do. Instead, they do this, to which I can only say, "Please proceed, Congressman."
 
2013-03-10 03:41:54 PM  

Princess Ryans Knickers: Fail in Human Form: You know what, I bought into the promise of "Obama Care".  I was wrong.  All I've seen are premiums go up, my friends who work part time get their hours severely reduced so the companies don't have to offer them care, the co-pay on everything double, and impending fines.  The status quo before wasn't sustainable... but this farking sucks.

2014

That's when Obamacare goes in.  Want to fail again?


Numbers are hard.
 
2013-03-10 03:43:09 PM  

LouDobbsAwaaaay: The GOP continues to prove that they don't really care about the budget, and Obama continues to treat them as if they do.


4 more years...of budget by 'continuing resolution'
 
2013-03-10 03:43:12 PM  
If the American people wanted Obamacare repealed, Paul Ryan would be vice president right now, instead of drafting pointless legislation.
 
2013-03-10 03:43:47 PM  
But is Ryan serious about these ideas, or are they gimmicks? Liberals tend to view Medicaid block grants as a fig leaf for the gutting of the Medicaid program. And as Ryan has proposed them, they're right -- He would grow the block grants so slowly that they would amount to an $800 billion cut in the Medicaid program over 10 years, over and above a repeal of the Medicaid expansion in the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act.
 
2013-03-10 03:44:40 PM  
amyldoanitrite: Fail in Human Form: You know what, I bought into the promise of "Obama Care".  I was wrong.  All I've seen are premiums go up, my friends who work part time get their hours severely reduced so the companies don't have to offer them care, the co-pay on everything double, and impending fines.  The status quo before wasn't sustainable... but this farking sucks.

I don't know what state you live in, but here in CA, once our state starts its insurance exchange, my family of 4 can get coverage for $124/month at my current income level. This will also be the first time my wife will have had insurance in more than 10 years do to a pre-existing condition.

So yeah, Obamacare is pretty f'ing great from my POV. Would I prefer true single payer? You bet. But this is certainly an improvement.

Ohio and I pay more than that for just myself.


Evidently you are doing something horribly wrong. Might I suggest reexamining your current options and making some changes to your Health Insurance. Obamacare seems to be working out pretty well for most people effected by it. You seem to be on the far end of that bell curve and so are going to have to devote some time to changing that. Try going over your Health Insurance payments line by line, you may be paying for things you don't really need. Also shop around for other Health Insurance providers in your area, you might find a better deal.
 
2013-03-10 03:45:15 PM  

Fail in Human Form: Princess Ryans Knickers: Fail in Human Form: You know what, I bought into the promise of "Obama Care".  I was wrong.  All I've seen are premiums go up, my friends who work part time get their hours severely reduced so the companies don't have to offer them care, the co-pay on everything double, and impending fines.  The status quo before wasn't sustainable... but this farking sucks.

2014

That's when Obamacare goes in.  Want to fail again?

The exchanges are only one factor in the law, so please stop sounding like an idiot, there is no "public option" so the exchanges are going to be private companies.  Will that be better or worse than it is now?


So what part of the currently enacted law has caused your rates to increase? Go ahead, I'll wait.
 
2013-03-10 03:46:20 PM  

Fail in Human Form: Ishidan: Fail in Human Form:
there is no "public option" so the exchanges are going to be private companies.

And why is this, again?

The Republicans.  I'm not arguing who farked up the bill, I'm looking at the bill AS IT IS, from my perspective.


Then you should be a) supporting further changes to the health care system, and b) organizing your workplace and working with your friends to organize theirs. Drastic cuts in hours and benefits is and has been the norm for years and is neither caused by nor particularly exacerbated, writ large, by the ACA. The only way to fight back against that, realistically, is to fight yourself instead of asking Washington to do it for you; even if single-payer healthcare were passed, you don't think there would be more of this same crap from some other direction that the capitalists blamed on SOCIALISM!!!!! and laughed while they pocketed the difference? Because that's what's happening now..
 
2013-03-10 03:46:21 PM  

Brass_Robo: amyldoanitrite: Fail in Human Form: You know what, I bought into the promise of "Obama Care".  I was wrong.  All I've seen are premiums go up, my friends who work part time get their hours severely reduced so the companies don't have to offer them care, the co-pay on everything double, and impending fines.  The status quo before wasn't sustainable... but this farking sucks.

I don't know what state you live in, but here in CA, once our state starts its insurance exchange, my family of 4 can get coverage for $124/month at my current income level. This will also be the first time my wife will have had insurance in more than 10 years do to a pre-existing condition.

So yeah, Obamacare is pretty f'ing great from my POV. Would I prefer true single payer? You bet. But this is certainly an improvement.

Ohio and I pay more than that for just myself.

Evidently you are doing something horribly wrong. Might I suggest reexamining your current options and making some changes to your Health Insurance. Obamacare seems to be working out pretty well for most people effected by it. You seem to be on the far end of that bell curve and so are going to have to devote some time to changing that. Try going over your Health Insurance payments line by line, you may be paying for things you don't really need. Also shop around for other Health Insurance providers in your area, you might find a better deal.


I'm with a local HMO.  My other option is BC/BS (given who has deals with the local hospitals) with far less coverage and only marginally better prices.
 
2013-03-10 03:47:00 PM  

Evil High Priest: Princess Ryans Knickers: Fail in Human Form: You know what, I bought into the promise of "Obama Care".  I was wrong.  All I've seen are premiums go up, my friends who work part time get their hours severely reduced so the companies don't have to offer them care, the co-pay on everything double, and impending fines.  The status quo before wasn't sustainable... but this farking sucks.

2014

That's when Obamacare goes in.  Want to fail again?

Numbers are hard.


Oooo you mean you have numbers and proof? I'll wait for you to provide it. But just like the other guy I can bet my house on the fact that you won't.
 
2013-03-10 03:47:07 PM  

Princess Ryans Knickers: Fail in Human Form: Princess Ryans Knickers: Fail in Human Form: You know what, I bought into the promise of "Obama Care".  I was wrong.  All I've seen are premiums go up, my friends who work part time get their hours severely reduced so the companies don't have to offer them care, the co-pay on everything double, and impending fines.  The status quo before wasn't sustainable... but this farking sucks.

2014

That's when Obamacare goes in.  Want to fail again?

The exchanges are only one factor in the law, so please stop sounding like an idiot, there is no "public option" so the exchanges are going to be private companies.  Will that be better or worse than it is now?

So what part of the currently enacted law has caused your rates to increase? Go ahead, I'll wait.


Not a clue.  The HMO doesn't send me a letter explaining every detail of their business amazingly.
 
2013-03-10 03:49:23 PM  

Fail in Human Form: You know what, I bought into the promise of "Obama Care".  I was wrong.  All I've seen are premiums go up, my friends who work part time get their hours severely reduced so the companies don't have to offer them care, the co-pay on everything double, and impending fines.  The status quo before wasn't sustainable... but this farking sucks.


Premiums and co-pays are higher, and people working part-time don't have health insurance; and the Obamacare exchanges haven't been implemented yet.
So worst case for Obamacare is that everything is going along the exact same trend it was before, no?
 
2013-03-10 03:49:30 PM  

Fail in Human Form: Not a clue.  The HMO doesn't send me a letter explaining every detail of their business amazingly.


Well then how do you know they increased their rates because of the new law?
 
2013-03-10 03:49:32 PM  
Why Republicans follow Satan and not Jesus:

Matthew 25:34-36

Then the king will say to those at his right hand, "Come, you that are blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world; for I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, I was naked and you gave me clothing, I was sick and you took care of me, I was in prison and you visited me."
 
2013-03-10 03:49:39 PM  
LibertyHiller:
Biatching about the failure of Obamacare when it's still in early implementation is like going to a birthday dinner and insisting that you want cake while everyone else is working on their salad.

At this point, more like seeing the baker come in the door with the cake and trying to punch him in the face for daring to bake a chocolate cake when everybody knows you prefer coconut.  Then when he reminds you that you're not the birthday boy and so don't get to to decide the cake flavor, you kick him in the crotch and demand a strawberry cake.  The baker successfully gets the cake to the table, which you then attempt to flip while screaming that you have the freedom of speech to demand vanilla cake, goddamnit!  Look, what can't you understand about the fact that last year's pineapple upsidedown cake was perfectly fine and there's no reason to change it?  The people want dobash, you tyrant!  THE CAKE IS A LIE!
 
2013-03-10 03:49:41 PM  
That poor chicken.
cdn.shopify.com
 
2013-03-10 03:49:57 PM  

A Dark Evil Omen: Fail in Human Form: Ishidan: Fail in Human Form:
there is no "public option" so the exchanges are going to be private companies.

And why is this, again?

The Republicans.  I'm not arguing who farked up the bill, I'm looking at the bill AS IT IS, from my perspective.

Then you should be a) supporting further changes to the health care system, and b) organizing your workplace and working with your friends to organize theirs. Drastic cuts in hours and benefits is and has been the norm for years and is neither caused by nor particularly exacerbated, writ large, by the ACA. The only way to fight back against that, realistically, is to fight yourself instead of asking Washington to do it for you; even if single-payer healthcare were passed, you don't think there would be more of this same crap from some other direction that the capitalists blamed on SOCIALISM!!!!! and laughed while they pocketed the difference? Because that's what's happening now..


a) I do
b) We get told what are options are (mention the U word and you're out the door)
c) I consider myself liberal but not "progressive" as the current D's policy is called.  Myself?  I'm a man without a part and I say a pox on both their houses.  I don't like having to picking which sets of my rights I want to support based on two parties beholden to the banks.
 
2013-03-10 03:50:49 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: Fail in Human Form: Not a clue.  The HMO doesn't send me a letter explaining every detail of their business amazingly.

Well then how do you know they increased their rates because of the new law?


I got a letter saying so and a letter explaining the percent paid on premiums requirement.  Not a detailed list of why.
 
2013-03-10 03:51:50 PM  

Fail in Human Form: cameroncrazy1984: Fail in Human Form: Not a clue.  The HMO doesn't send me a letter explaining every detail of their business amazingly.

Well then how do you know they increased their rates because of the new law?

I got a letter saying so and a letter explaining the percent paid on premiums requirement.  Not a detailed list of why.


So, really what you're saying is that the insurance company lies to you by saying that Obamacare forced them to raise their rates and you believe them for no apparent reason
 
2013-03-10 03:52:36 PM  

GAT_00: nmrsnr: Again? Hasn't the House already repealed it like 5 times? Let it go man, it's gone.

They tried 33 times or something like that last session.  And the first bill of this Congress was to repeal Obamacare.


The GOP is coming close to Jodi Arias. Stab. Stab. Stab. Stab. Stab. Stab. etc.
 
2013-03-10 03:52:43 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: Fail in Human Form: cameroncrazy1984: Fail in Human Form: Not a clue.  The HMO doesn't send me a letter explaining every detail of their business amazingly.

Well then how do you know they increased their rates because of the new law?

I got a letter saying so and a letter explaining the percent paid on premiums requirement.  Not a detailed list of why.

So, really what you're saying is that the insurance company lies to you by saying that Obamacare forced them to raise their rates and you believe them for no apparent reason


I'm basing my opinion on the data provided to me.  How do you base yours?
 
2013-03-10 03:53:12 PM  

Fail in Human Form: Brass_Robo: amyldoanitrite: Fail in Human Form: You know what, I bought into the promise of "Obama Care".  I was wrong.  All I've seen are premiums go up, my friends who work part time get their hours severely reduced so the companies don't have to offer them care, the co-pay on everything double, and impending fines.  The status quo before wasn't sustainable... but this farking sucks.

I don't know what state you live in, but here in CA, once our state starts its insurance exchange, my family of 4 can get coverage for $124/month at my current income level. This will also be the first time my wife will have had insurance in more than 10 years do to a pre-existing condition.

So yeah, Obamacare is pretty f'ing great from my POV. Would I prefer true single payer? You bet. But this is certainly an improvement.

Ohio and I pay more than that for just myself.

Evidently you are doing something horribly wrong. Might I suggest reexamining your current options and making some changes to your Health Insurance. Obamacare seems to be working out pretty well for most people effected by it. You seem to be on the far end of that bell curve and so are going to have to devote some time to changing that. Try going over your Health Insurance payments line by line, you may be paying for things you don't really need. Also shop around for other Health Insurance providers in your area, you might find a better deal.

I'm with a local HMO.  My other option is BC/BS (given who has deals with the local hospitals) with far less coverage and only marginally better prices.


I have a question:  Why are you convinced that Obamacare is why your rates have increased?  Did you get a letter from your insurance provider saying, "We're raising your rates because OBAMACARE!!!", or are you just making assumptions based on the idea that the increases happened after portions of the ACA were implemented, therefore any increase is a direct result of those portions of the ACA?
 
2013-03-10 03:53:54 PM  

Fail in Human Form: I'm basing my opinion on the data provided to me.  How do you base yours?


A letter lying to you is not "data," it's lying.
 
2013-03-10 03:54:25 PM  

Fail in Human Form: cameroncrazy1984: Fail in Human Form: Not a clue.  The HMO doesn't send me a letter explaining every detail of their business amazingly.

Well then how do you know they increased their rates because of the new law?

I got a letter saying so and a letter explaining the percent paid on premiums requirement.  Not a detailed list of why.


You do know that they can, and will, lie to you, right?
 
2013-03-10 03:54:46 PM  

Fail in Human Form: How do you base yours?


I develop mine from the personal experiences of random strangers on the internet without question.
 
2013-03-10 03:55:35 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: Fail in Human Form: I'm basing my opinion on the data provided to me.  How do you base yours?

A letter lying to you is not "data," it's lying.


Well I have to go by what I have.  As for the reduction of hours of part time employees I mentioned in my Boobies.  That was stated by our company.  They cut their hours to avoid giving them benefits.
 
2013-03-10 03:56:09 PM  

Fail in Human Form: cameroncrazy1984: Fail in Human Form: I'm basing my opinion on the data provided to me.  How do you base yours?

A letter lying to you is not "data," it's lying.

Well I have to go by what I have.  As for the reduction of hours of part time employees I mentioned in my Boobies.  That was stated by our company.  They cut their hours to avoid giving them benefits.


And it's Obamacare's fault that you work for a sh*tty company?
 
2013-03-10 03:56:39 PM  

Fail in Human Form: cameroncrazy1984: Fail in Human Form: Not a clue.  The HMO doesn't send me a letter explaining every detail of their business amazingly.

Well then how do you know they increased their rates because of the new law?

I got a letter saying so and a letter explaining the percent paid on premiums requirement.   Not a detailed list of why.


So, if they didn't tell you why they changed your rates, why did you assume it was due to the partial implementation of Obamacare?  I mean, you do understand that cause and effect are a wee bit more complex than Aristotle suggested?
 
2013-03-10 03:56:54 PM  

Fail in Human Form: A Dark Evil Omen: Fail in Human Form: Ishidan: Fail in Human Form:
there is no "public option" so the exchanges are going to be private companies.

And why is this, again?

The Republicans.  I'm not arguing who farked up the bill, I'm looking at the bill AS IT IS, from my perspective.

Then you should be a) supporting further changes to the health care system, and b) organizing your workplace and working with your friends to organize theirs. Drastic cuts in hours and benefits is and has been the norm for years and is neither caused by nor particularly exacerbated, writ large, by the ACA. The only way to fight back against that, realistically, is to fight yourself instead of asking Washington to do it for you; even if single-payer healthcare were passed, you don't think there would be more of this same crap from some other direction that the capitalists blamed on SOCIALISM!!!!! and laughed while they pocketed the difference? Because that's what's happening now..

a) I do
b) We get told what are options are (mention the U word and you're out the door)
c) I consider myself liberal but not "progressive" as the current D's policy is called.  Myself?  I'm a man without a part and I say a pox on both their houses.  I don't like having to picking which sets of my rights I want to support based on two parties beholden to the banks.


Talk to your co-workers outside of work about organization. You do realize that it is illegal for employers to fire people or threaten their jobs for trying to organize, right? If that is really a thing and not just a scary story the company has convinced you to tell each other you have a strong basis for an unfair labor practices suit.

As for me, I am an anarchist and I don't support either - or any - political party, but I can objectively look at policies to determine better/worse based on facts and data instead of campfire stories or scaremongering from people who have a financial interest in keeping me scared. If you dislike both parties, then that's all the more reason to organize and get some actual self-determination.
 
2013-03-10 03:57:03 PM  

Fail in Human Form: cameroncrazy1984: Fail in Human Form: cameroncrazy1984: Fail in Human Form: Not a clue.  The HMO doesn't send me a letter explaining every detail of their business amazingly.

Well then how do you know they increased their rates because of the new law?

I got a letter saying so and a letter explaining the percent paid on premiums requirement.  Not a detailed list of why.

So, really what you're saying is that the insurance company lies to you by saying that Obamacare forced them to raise their rates and you believe them for no apparent reason

I'm basing my opinion on the data provided to me.  How do you base yours?


It really sounds like you've got the shiattiest HMO ever. Or you fail at reading comprehension.
Perhaps you could scan and post the letter in this thread?
You know, the one in which they explain they raised your rates because of Obamacare.
 
2013-03-10 03:57:55 PM  

Fail in Human Form: cameroncrazy1984: Fail in Human Form: I'm basing my opinion on the data provided to me.  How do you base yours?

A letter lying to you is not "data," it's lying.

Well I have to go by what I have.  As for the reduction of hours of part time employees I mentioned in my Boobies.  That was stated by our company.  They cut their hours to avoid giving them benefits.


Which again, is the exact same thing companies have been doing to part-time workers for decades.
 
2013-03-10 03:58:27 PM  
Fail in HumanForm Honestly, I don't see it improving much with the exchanges but I hope I'm proved wrong. I understand it has helped some people but here's my question. When you look at it from my perspective (and those I know personally), and very tight budget, how much more should I be willing give up for another's benefit? I don't say that as an evil "screw'em all" conservative. I'm honestly asking.

You do understand, don't you, that the Reagan Signed EMTAL of `86 (emergency room must treat regardless of ability to pay) has been adding ~$1000, for a family of 4, through increased private insurance premiums (somebody had to eat the cost of the most poorly implemented `socialized' medicine program EVER - really screwed with availability of treatment options for even the paying customer - close down the ER's!).

Single payer is the only way I see to actually start to decrease (not just decrease increases), over the long term, of the enormous long term debt that is medicare. AFCA is near-beer and still doesn't require the restructuring of Medicare part D (unfunded mandate that is estimated to, over 75 yr., add more to debt (17 trillion) than is currently owed to the unfunded portion of SS (14 trillion). Drug companies will have to wait for some more forceful President to bring them into a generic universe.

AFCA is better than nothing and possibly a first step in getting the farking health care spending in line with our major, industrialized, trading partners (where we really take the hit).
 
2013-03-10 03:59:22 PM  

Fail in Human Form: You know what, I bought into the promise of "Obama Care".  I was wrong.  All I've seen are premiums go up, my friends who work part time get their hours severely reduced so the companies don't have to offer them care, the co-pay on everything double, and impending fines.  The status quo before wasn't sustainable... but this farking sucks.


Paid shill's gonna shill.
 
2013-03-10 04:00:13 PM  

Via Infinito: Fail in Human Form: cameroncrazy1984: Fail in Human Form: cameroncrazy1984: Fail in Human Form: Not a clue.  The HMO doesn't send me a letter explaining every detail of their business amazingly.

Well then how do you know they increased their rates because of the new law?

I got a letter saying so and a letter explaining the percent paid on premiums requirement.  Not a detailed list of why.

So, really what you're saying is that the insurance company lies to you by saying that Obamacare forced them to raise their rates and you believe them for no apparent reason

I'm basing my opinion on the data provided to me.  How do you base yours?

It really sounds like you've got the shiattiest HMO ever. Or you fail at reading comprehension.
Perhaps you could scan and post the letter in this thread?
You know, the one in which they explain they raised your rates because of Obamacare.


I no longer have the letter and they didn't call it "Obamacare" they called it the Affordable Care Act.
 
2013-03-10 04:00:29 PM  
Ryan said his budget, like his plan last year, would propose giving new Medicare beneficiaries, now younger than age 55, the option of purchasing private insurance with a government subsidy instead of the traditional Medicare plan.

Vouchers. Again.
 
2013-03-10 04:00:52 PM  
Seriously?  They really are committed to abandoning all pretense of progress, aren't they.
 
2013-03-10 04:02:02 PM  
Well Obamacare has worked great for me. I'm on the pre-existing condition plan. My premiums went up (from 0 to $296 a month) but overall my medical costs are down because, you know, I actually have insurance now.

I actually was diagnosed when I was on my school's insurance plan. I paid $200 a month at that time (2008-10) and it only covered $1000 worth of prescription costs for the year. (My prescription at the time cost $1500 a month) The plan I'm on now covers all prescription costs above the deductible with just a $30 copay.
It's funny how superior Obamacare is to private insurance.
 
2013-03-10 04:02:45 PM  

Soup4Bonnie: Ryan said his budget, like his plan last year, would propose giving new Medicare beneficiaries, now younger than age 55, the option of purchasing private insurance with a government subsidy instead of the traditional Medicare plan.

Vouchers. Again.


More vouchers and another attempt at repealing PPACA.
Maybe we'll get lucky and the republicans will hold their breath long enough that their voters start to turn blue.
 
2013-03-10 04:03:32 PM  

Princess Ryans Knickers: Fail in Human Form: cameroncrazy1984: Fail in Human Form: Not a clue.  The HMO doesn't send me a letter explaining every detail of their business amazingly.

Well then how do you know they increased their rates because of the new law?

I got a letter saying so and a letter explaining the percent paid on premiums requirement.  Not a detailed list of why.

You do know that they can, and will, lie to you, right?


Sounds like the good news is they'll be sending him a check for all that money they overcharged him.

Thanks, 2bama.
 
2013-03-10 04:04:28 PM  
Sorry, ACA.

/acronymanical
 
2013-03-10 04:04:42 PM  

JesusJuice: Fail in Human Form: You know what, I bought into the promise of "Obama Care".  I was wrong.  All I've seen are premiums go up, my friends who work part time get their hours severely reduced so the companies don't have to offer them care, the co-pay on everything double, and impending fines.  The status quo before wasn't sustainable... but this farking sucks.

Paid shill's gonna shill.


Pretty much this. Or the worlds most incompetent employee when it comes to his own health care, who knows or cares.

Vague reasoning, no examples, just "it sucks now and this is why" without any citation.

Goin on my ignore, have a nice life troll.
 
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