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(Bubblews)   NASA admits there's only about a 3 day window to find and track asteroids passing close to Earth, like Asteroid 2013 EN, whizzing past the Moon today. Where's Harry Stamper when we need him most?   (bubblews.com) divider line 76
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2013-03-10 01:06:17 PM
i1182.photobucket.com
 
2013-03-10 02:03:32 PM
Don't worry, folks.

I have a triangular spaceship.  I can handle this.
 
2013-03-10 02:15:42 PM
www.heavemedia.com

/obscure?
 
2013-03-10 02:33:37 PM
mojoimage.com


"He done blowed up real good!"
 
2013-03-10 02:42:44 PM
NASA admits there's only about a 3 day window to find and track asteroids passing close to Earth, like Asteroid 2013 EN, whizzing past the Moon today. Where's Harry Stamper when we need him most?

Have you looked around the Pacific Northwest?
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-03-10 02:43:00 PM

calbert: [www.heavemedia.com image 600x400]

/obscure?


No. Especially since subby mentioned Bruce Willis' character in the headline.
 
2013-03-10 02:56:11 PM
Neat, after 60 years of space exploration, humankind has gotten up to where we know we're farked with the next big asteroid.

Hopefully the next 60 years can be put into actually coming up with a means to defend ourselves.

And just as hopefully there won't be a climate changing asteroid by then.
 
2013-03-10 03:22:49 PM

calbert: /obscure?


More like the only answer
 
2013-03-10 03:25:08 PM

calbert: [www.heavemedia.com image 600x400]

/obscure?


Only in a parallel universe is a half billion dollar grossing movie obscure.
 
2013-03-10 03:25:34 PM
Well, three days is plenty if you already have a plan in place. We have time now, so let's use it.
 
2013-03-10 03:26:58 PM

calbert: [www.heavemedia.com image 600x400]

/obscure?


<insert witty comment on your poor choice of word>
 
2013-03-10 03:27:31 PM
So, to bring sense into this discussion...

NASA tracks bodies from largest to smallest.  Yes, "city killer" asteroids are being found a little late, but NASA has been tracking the ones that actually matter (planet or continent-scale destruction) and is moving from them right on down.  Some things are a little harder to see (objects coming in from the direction of the sun) but there are even plans to see those.  NPR's Science Friday had a great story on just this.
 
2013-03-10 03:36:31 PM
So, if there are two asteroids closing in on earth at the same time, would they be called steroids?
 
2013-03-10 03:39:49 PM
"Asteroid 2013 EN is no planet killer. But it could wipe out a whole city, if it were to strike the planet."

And were to actually, you know, hit a city.

At which point that city would join all the other cities throughout human history that have been destroyed by asteroids.
 
2013-03-10 03:41:30 PM
t2.gstatic.com
 
2013-03-10 03:42:06 PM

Generation_D: Neat, after 60 years of space exploration, humankind has gotten up to where we know we're farked with the next big asteroid.

Hopefully the next 60 years can be put into actually coming up with a means to defend ourselves.

And just as hopefully there won't be a climate changing asteroid by then.


Yep.  Next one.  That's the one that's gonna get us.
 
2013-03-10 03:42:21 PM
We are no longer protected against asteroids.

Thanks, Obama!
 
2013-03-10 03:42:34 PM
That's barely enough time to download and 3D print a planetary laser. Maybe we should get started now and 3D print ourselves a scrith foundation?
 
2013-03-10 03:43:15 PM
Waste of money tracking these things. How often do cataclysmic size asteroids hit the earth?
 
2013-03-10 03:43:22 PM

SurelyShirley: So, if there are two asteroids closing in on earth at the same time, would they be called steroids?


OhYou.jpg
 
2013-03-10 03:43:48 PM

Generation_D: Neat, after 60 years of space exploration, humankind has gotten up to where we know we're farked with the next big asteroid.

Hopefully the next 60 years can be put into actually coming up with a means to defend ourselves.

And just as hopefully there won't be a climate changing asteroid by then.


Uh, no, that asteroid will counteract the effects of anthropocentric global warming.

/that's Obama's secondary reason for aiming asteroids at Tea Party bunkers
 
2013-03-10 03:44:27 PM

Via Infinito: calbert: [www.heavemedia.com image 600x400]

/obscure?

No. Especially since subby mentioned Bruce Willis' character in the headline.


man metaphysical: calbert: /obscure?

More like the only answer


12349876: calbert: [www.heavemedia.com image 600x400]

/obscure?

Only in a parallel universe is a half billion dollar grossing movie obscure.


i302.photobucket.com
 
2013-03-10 03:44:32 PM
HEY QA's back!  How ya been man -- missed you in these threads.  How did you miss the 3-D printer that's going to make human organs for life extension ... IN SPACE!
 
2013-03-10 03:45:06 PM
img689.imageshack.us

Well, imagine what would had happened if NASA (or an other agency) announced the Russian meteor 3 days in advance. The EVERYBODY PANIC effect could have caused a much bigger negative impact on everything than the meteor itself did. The fear and insecurity could shut down the society and bring anarchy, rape, and pillage to your otherwise normal life.
 
2013-03-10 03:46:25 PM

calbert: [www.heavemedia.com image 600x400]

/obscure?


i.imgur.com
"Surely you can't be serious."
 
2013-03-10 03:47:17 PM

Generation_D: Neat, after 60 years of space exploration, humankind has gotten up to where we know we're farked with the next big asteroid.

Hopefully the next 60 years can be put into actually coming up with a means to defend ourselves.

And just as hopefully there won't be a climate changing asteroid by then.


Perhaps funding NASA might have a positive outcome?
 
2013-03-10 03:50:42 PM

Quantum Apostrophe: That's barely enough time to download and 3D print a planetary laser. Maybe we should get started now and 3D print ourselves a scrith foundation?


Yeah, because that's EXACTLY what everyone's saying 3D printing can do. You keep fighting that imaginary argument, you crazy diamond.
 
2013-03-10 03:52:05 PM
images2.wikia.nocookie.net

Meanwhile in Antarctica, SpaceX busts out yet another piece of hell yeah.
 
2013-03-10 03:52:15 PM
and somehow we've made it this far!
 
2013-03-10 03:53:44 PM

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: Don't worry, folks.

I have a triangular spaceship.  I can handle this.


Is it six thousand eight hundred miles a side?  If so, be careful or someone might mistake it for fiddling small change.
 
2013-03-10 03:55:25 PM

SurelyShirley: So, if there are two asteroids closing in on earth at the same time, would they be called steroids?


 those would be my balls.
 
2013-03-10 03:55:33 PM

Xyphoid: So, to bring sense into this discussion...

NASA tracks bodies from largest to smallest.  Yes, "city killer" asteroids are being found a little late, but NASA has been tracking the ones that actually matter (planet or continent-scale destruction) and is moving from them right on down.  Some things are a little harder to see (objects coming in from the direction of the sun) but there are even plans to see those.  NPR's Science Friday had a great story on just this.


The problem is comets and the occasional missile hurled by Jupiter with little warning.  Some of the big stuff can't be found just because it's very far away right now or hasn't been gravity assisted by passing Jupiter.
 
2013-03-10 03:56:19 PM
Adele......In.......Space!!!
 
2013-03-10 03:57:17 PM

Via Infinito: calbert: [www.heavemedia.com image 600x400]

/obscure?

No. Especially since subby mentioned Bruce Willis' character in the headline.


I was wondering who Harry Stamper was.

/needs to get out more
 
2013-03-10 03:58:25 PM

studebaker hoch: Meanwhile in Antarctica, SpaceX busts out yet another piece of hell yeah.


Tit cannon!
 
2013-03-10 03:58:54 PM

Generation_D: Neat, after 60 years of space exploration, humankind has gotten up to where we know we're farked with the next big asteroid.

Hopefully the next 60 years can be put into actually coming up with a means to defend ourselves.

And just as hopefully there won't be a climate changing asteroid by then.


Listen, pal, we can either spend billions on space defense for a threat that may well never come OR we could spend billions dropping bombs in the middle east. You can't have both.
 
2013-03-10 03:59:18 PM

Quantum Apostrophe: That's barely enough time to download and 3D print a planetary laser. Maybe we should get started now and 3D print ourselves a scrith foundation?


You can't just used a 3d printer to make scrith, fool.  We don't even know how to make a cziltang brone yet.
 
2013-03-10 03:59:20 PM
Just because we know how to find asteroids doesn't mean that they're more likely to hit Earth.  We've only had anything resembling this capability for some 400 years, and the last major impact was millions of years ago.  Being paranoid like this is a waste of worry.
 
2013-03-10 04:03:08 PM

BlippityBleep: and somehow we've made it this far!


I'm still alive.  Therefore I shall live forever.
 
2013-03-10 04:04:41 PM
iron de havilland

calbert is making a necklace with gnashed teeth.
 
2013-03-10 04:05:10 PM

studebaker hoch: [images2.wikia.nocookie.net image 533x399]

Meanwhile in Antarctica, SpaceX busts out yet another piece of hell yeah.


I don't think an ion cannon will do anything to an asteroid. I'm not saying don't build them, they might come in handy when the Imperial fleet shows up and tries landing AT-ATs to attack Disney World.
 
2013-03-10 04:13:38 PM

ciberido: Quantum Apostrophe: That's barely enough time to download and 3D print a planetary laser. Maybe we should get started now and 3D print ourselves a scrith foundation?

You can't just used a 3d printer to make scrith, fool.  We don't even know how to make a cziltang brone yet.


Speak for yourself. I have one that's anagrammatically identical that I call "Blazing Cornet."
 
2013-03-10 04:15:17 PM

studebaker hoch: [images2.wikia.nocookie.net image 533x399]

Meanwhile in Antarctica, SpaceX busts out yet another piece of hell yeah.


s11.postimage.org
 
2013-03-10 04:16:36 PM

Myria: Just because we know how to find asteroids doesn't mean that they're more likely to hit Earth.  We've only had anything resembling this capability for some 400 years, and the last major impact was millions of years ago.  Being paranoid like this is a waste of worry.


Because big asteroids never hit planets.
 
2013-03-10 04:21:05 PM
Harry Stamper?

It's Jimmy Shaker I'm worried about.

Some kinda Jimmy Shaker asteroid? Don't put it past him.
 
2013-03-10 04:35:41 PM

studebaker hoch: [images2.wikia.nocookie.net image 533x399]

Meanwhile in Antarctica, SpaceX busts out yet another piece of hell yeah.


So, Kate Upton is going to save us?
 
2013-03-10 05:03:27 PM

traylor: [img689.imageshack.us image 379x214]

Well, imagine what would had happened if NASA (or an other agency) announced the Russian meteor 3 days in advance. The EVERYBODY PANIC effect could have caused a much bigger negative impact on everything than the meteor itself did. The fear and insecurity could shut down the society and bring anarchy, rape, and pillage to your otherwise normal life.


I get what you mean on one level (I live in CA, feel this way about quakes because we don't have to do a ton of stupid prep shiat like hurricane people) but...it IS a pretty dumb perspective. Advance warning where we have the ability to do SOMETHING is good.

You think Katrina would've been less of a clusterfark without warning?
 
2013-03-10 05:09:35 PM
Seems to be a lot of Asteroids whizzing by lately. Wondering if some interstellar debris field is floating in from the Oort cloud...
 
2013-03-10 05:15:04 PM

mark12A: Seems to be a lot of Asteroids whizzing by lately. Wondering if some interstellar debris field is floating in from the Oort cloud...


The ones that we have seen lately have all been in stable orbits, not hyperbolic orbits falling in from outside the solar system, so no.
 
2013-03-10 05:20:54 PM

Via Infinito: No. Especially since subby mentioned Bruce Willis' character in the headline.

man metaphysical: More like the only answer

12349876: Only in a parallel universe is a half billion dollar grossing movie obscure.

WeezinTheJuice: <insert witty comment on your poor choice of word>

YodaBlues: "Surely you can't be serious."


0-media-cdn.foolz.us
 
2013-03-10 05:44:30 PM
Well, our object collison budget's a million dollars. That allows us to track about 3% of the sky, and beg'n your pardon sir, but it's a big-ass sky.
 
2013-03-10 05:44:38 PM
Hey, if were wishing for an imaginary character to be real so they can deal with incoming asteroids, I'd rather have this guy around.

cache.io9.com
 
2013-03-10 05:48:29 PM

KarmicDisaster: mark12A: Seems to be a lot of Asteroids whizzing by lately. Wondering if some interstellar debris field is floating in from the Oort cloud...

The ones that we have seen lately have all been in stable orbits, not hyperbolic orbits falling in from outside the solar system, so no.


Comet  C/2013 A1 (the one that next year is supposed to get incredibly close to Mars -- or if we are really lucky, whack it head-on) is on a hyperbolic orbit, I think.
 
2013-03-10 06:16:28 PM

mark12A: Seems to be a lot of Asteroids whizzing by lately. Wondering if some interstellar debris field is floating in from the Oort cloud...


It's not that a lot of asteroids have been whizzing by insomuch as our detection efforts have gotten a lot better over the last few years.

In other words: Asteroids have ALWAYS been whizzing by, we just never noticed them before.
 
2013-03-10 06:20:40 PM

Ishkur: mark12A: Seems to be a lot of Asteroids whizzing by lately. Wondering if some interstellar debris field is floating in from the Oort cloud...

It's not that a lot of asteroids have been whizzing by insomuch as our detection efforts have gotten a lot better over the last few years.

In other words: Asteroids have ALWAYS been whizzing by, we just never noticed them before.


We noticed in 1908.
/If a fashion.
 
2013-03-10 06:21:25 PM

TheMysteriousStranger: We noticed in 1908.
/If a fashion.


In a fashion.

Sorry.
 
2013-03-10 06:28:50 PM

Myria: Just because we know how to find asteroids doesn't mean that they're more likely to hit Earth.  We've only had anything resembling this capability for some 400 years, and the last major impact was millions of years ago.  Being paranoid like this is a waste of worry.


Another asteroid WILL hit the earth... as happens regularly throughout history.  NOT planning for a doomsday event you know 100% will happen at some point would be foolish, from a species-wide perspective.

You personally, no, you can continue eating donuts in your executive office chair without wasting too much thought on it.
 
2013-03-10 06:31:53 PM
3 days notice isn't even enough time to prep a shuttle to intercept it.  Wait, we don't even have shuttles now?

i192.photobucket.com

Well, we're boned.
 
2013-03-10 06:40:11 PM

RectalDamage: Waste of money tracking these things. How often do cataclysmic size asteroids hit the earth?


You don't remember the last 3 times Earth was decimated by space rocks? You must be under 40 years old.

/It only takes one
 
2013-03-10 06:47:37 PM

PsyLord: 3 days notice isn't even enough time to prep a shuttle to intercept it.  Wait, we don't even have shuttles now?

[i192.photobucket.com image 450x334]

Well, we're boned.


Can we get Shuttles (or Shuttle Mk II) back if we file them as Defense/Homeland Security projects?

A manned spacecraft with ability to launch weapons to divert or destroy an asteroid would probably be more practical for National Defense than the F-35 Boondoggle will ever be, and a much better use of money.

impdb.org

What a Space Shuttle Mk II may look like.
 
2013-03-10 07:17:38 PM

Ishkur: Quantum Apostrophe: That's barely enough time to download and 3D print a planetary laser. Maybe we should get started now and 3D print ourselves a scrith foundation?

Yeah, because that's EXACTLY what everyone's saying 3D printing can do. You keep fighting that imaginary argument, you crazy diamond.


or 3D print ourselves some orange drink for the long journey home
 
2013-03-10 07:20:46 PM
If something is about to hit us, and there's nothing we can do about it, do you really want to know in advance?
 
2013-03-10 07:40:34 PM

PsyLord: 3 days notice isn't even enough time to prep a shuttle to intercept it.  Wait, we don't even have shuttles now?

[i192.photobucket.com image 450x334]

Well, we're boned.


Since when could Shuttles leave Earths orbit. We were boned as soon as we stopped building heavy lifters like the Saturn V. Had we kept building and updating the Apollo hardware (like the Russians did with Soyuz), we'd be in a lot better position overall because Saturns are a lot more flexible (you can either send a lot of payload into Earth orbit or a little bit much father away - imagine the kind of missions to the Jovian planets we could do with cheaper, more advanced Saturns as launch vehicles). Abandoning the Saturn I and V system for the boondoggle of the Shuttle was one of the worst mistakes NASA ever made.
 
2013-03-10 07:47:47 PM
FTA "Armageddon", the 1998 movie that predicted the future, right down to the first black president and the rise of Ben Affleck.

Movie trivia fail.
 
2013-03-10 08:01:43 PM

Mad_Radhu: PsyLord: 3 days notice isn't even enough time to prep a shuttle to intercept it.  Wait, we don't even have shuttles now?

[i192.photobucket.com image 450x334]

Well, we're boned.

Since when could Shuttles leave Earths orbit. We were boned as soon as we stopped building heavy lifters like the Saturn V. Had we kept building and updating the Apollo hardware (like the Russians did with Soyuz), we'd be in a lot better position overall because Saturns are a lot more flexible (you can either send a lot of payload into Earth orbit or a little bit much father away - imagine the kind of missions to the Jovian planets we could do with cheaper, more advanced Saturns as launch vehicles). Abandoning the Saturn I and V system for the boondoggle of the Shuttle was one of the worst mistakes NASA ever made.


But the Air Force needed a space plane capable of delivering satellites to useless orbits...
 
2013-03-10 08:02:18 PM
CBDR... constant bearing, decreasing range

/we'll only see it get brighter
 
2013-03-10 08:31:34 PM
I'd rather have this guy along. He gets shiat *done*.

www.zerosun.com
 
2013-03-10 09:04:52 PM

mincepie: FTA:  "Armageddon", the 1998 movie that predicted the future, right down to the first black president and the rise of Ben Affleck.

Movie trivia fail.


I was reading through these comments to see if anyone else caught this. Finally someone did!
 
2013-03-10 09:36:07 PM

SurelyShirley: So, if there are two asteroids closing in on earth at the same time, would they be called steroids?


I believe, in that situation, the proper term would be a "finger cuffs" event.
 
2013-03-10 09:54:33 PM

CokeBear: If something is about to hit us, and there's nothing we can do about it, do you really want to know in advance?


What if getting into an underground shelter meant surviving? It's not like you need food to outlast a Fallout situation, you just need to live through the blast and resulting shock wave.
 
2013-03-10 09:59:57 PM

scalpod: CokeBear: If something is about to hit us, and there's nothing we can do about it, do you really want to know in advance?

What if getting into an underground shelter meant surviving? It's not like you need food to outlast a Fallout situation, you just need to live through the blast and resulting shock wave.


Well, if the blast and shockwave are large enough, you'll need food for the Nuclear Winter when enough dust is kicked into the stratosphere to change the planetary albedo as Earth effectively gets covered by a giant dustcloud.  Reduced light causes a sharp drop in temperatures creating wintry conditions worldwide for anywhere from 6 months to several years depending on the severity.  The decreased temperature and light cause crop failures.

Without farms raising crops, for several years, the bulk of humanity starves to death.  Yeah, with plenty of cached food there will be enough survivors to ensure the continuation of humanity, and the continuity of government is even probable. . .but it would be a cataclysm the likes of which mankind had never seen before.  Seeing 5+ billion people die over the course of a couple of years from starvation is going to be bad.
 
2013-03-10 10:21:35 PM
Silverstaff:  Seeing 5+ billion people die over the course of a couple of years from starvation is going to be bad.

Pfft...never happen because it's not part of Jesus' plan.
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Is it?
 
2013-03-10 10:48:06 PM

Lady Indica: traylor: [img689.imageshack.us image 379x214]

Well, imagine what would had happened if NASA (or an other agency) announced the Russian meteor 3 days in advance. The EVERYBODY PANIC effect could have caused a much bigger negative impact on everything than the meteor itself did. The fear and insecurity could shut down the society and bring anarchy, rape, and pillage to your otherwise normal life.

I get what you mean on one level (I live in CA, feel this way about quakes because we don't have to do a ton of stupid prep shiat like hurricane people) but...it IS a pretty dumb perspective. Advance warning where we have the ability to do SOMETHING is good.

You think Katrina would've been less of a clusterfark without warning?


That was sooo cute.
 
2013-03-11 12:47:20 AM

CokeBear: If something is about to hit us, and there's nothing we can do about it, do you really want to know in advance?


End of the world orgy, anyone?
 
2013-03-11 04:57:40 PM

BlippityBleep: and somehow we've made it this far!


The Optimist Fell ten stories,
and at each window bar-
he shouted to his friends inside: "It's alright so far!"

/not mine
//really old
///1914 book of collected poems inherited many years ago
////Slashies!
 
2013-03-11 08:41:05 PM

Silverstaff: scalpod: CokeBear: If something is about to hit us, and there's nothing we can do about it, do you really want to know in advance?

What if getting into an underground shelter meant surviving? It's not like you need food to outlast a Fallout situation, you just need to live through the blast and resulting shock wave.

Well, if the blast and shockwave are large enough, you'll need food for the Nuclear Winter when enough dust is kicked into the stratosphere to change the planetary albedo as Earth effectively gets covered by a giant dustcloud.  Reduced light causes a sharp drop in temperatures creating wintry conditions worldwide for anywhere from 6 months to several years depending on the severity.  The decreased temperature and light cause crop failures.

Without farms raising crops, for several years, the bulk of humanity starves to death.  Yeah, with plenty of cached food there will be enough survivors to ensure the continuation of humanity, and the continuity of government is even probable. . .but it would be a cataclysm the likes of which mankind had never seen before.  Seeing 5+ billion people die over the course of a couple of years from starvation is going to be bad.


I didn't mean mass extinction impacts or even "nation busters", just "city busters". Someone asked what good having any advance warning would do and I was suggesting that there could be times when "get into the nearest shelter" might not be useless advice.
 
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