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2013-03-10 10:02:50 AM
Last week's episode was pretty darn good. I don't think they'll be able to top it.

The assault on the jail is not going to be half as epic as how it went down in the comic book. Alas.
 
2013-03-10 10:09:37 AM
Last week's episode was probably the best since the series premiere. Loved the "I'm sorry this happened to you" throwback.

I don't know if the last episode is enough to salvage the piss poor job they've done with Michonne, but it was a good start.
 
2013-03-10 10:22:51 AM
I'm so happy I'm completely unfamiliar with the comic.  People sound constrained.

I noticed Glenn and Maggie have taken a backseat.  I don't think Glenn will make it to season 4.
 
2013-03-10 10:40:06 AM

thamike: I'm so happy I'm completely unfamiliar with the comic.  People sound constrained


That's like saying you're happy that you stuck to the little kiddie roller coaster and never went on the one with the loops.
 
2013-03-10 10:42:24 AM

Lando Lincoln: Last week's episode was pretty darn good. I don't think they'll be able to top it.

The assault on the jail is not going to be half as epic as how it went down in the comic book. Alas.


I think the prison assault will be a fun episode (like the farm battle with cheat codes), but it won't have anywhere near the level of gut-punches as the comic went for.

I'm expecting the next couple episodes to be mostly shifting things around and setting up the battle to happen in the last couple episodes.
 
2013-03-10 10:52:36 AM
Does anyone actually expect the knapsack to be some big plot element? I keep hearing this theory that the hitchhiker was someone important or that they'll learn something about him.

We're never going to hear anything about it, it was a scene to show us something about the characters we know, not introduce a new one.
 
2013-03-10 10:57:34 AM

Lando Lincoln: thamike: I'm so happy I'm completely unfamiliar with the comic.  People sound constrained

That's like saying you're happy that you stuck to the little kiddie roller coaster and never went on the one with the loops.


No, it's like saying I am able to enjoy a show without squealing at every way it differs from the source material. The little kiddie rollercoaster can be found when you follow the sound of the high pitched screaming, and I don't hear any coming from my end.
 
2013-03-10 10:57:57 AM

itsdan: Does anyone actually expect the knapsack to be some big plot element? I keep hearing this theory that the hitchhiker was someone important or that they'll learn something about him.

We're never going to hear anything about it, it was a scene to show us something about the characters we know, not introduce a new one.


It's most likely that the knapsack will never be mentioned again.  The whole point was to show Rick's mentality nowadays.

On the other hand, it's possible they open up the knapsack and realize the guy could have been useful.  Something needs to snap Rick out of his mentality of "everybody not in the group needs to die".
 
2013-03-10 10:58:09 AM

Lando Lincoln: thamike: I'm so happy I'm completely unfamiliar with the comic.  People sound constrained

That's like saying you're happy that you stuck to the little kiddie roller coaster and never went on the one with the loops.


I wonder if we can whip up a Walking Dead cliche list and check them off throughout the thread


1) "The comic book was better" snobbery
2) _____ is a goner because they got some character exposition recently
3) _____ is a goner because another black guy just showed up
4) NOOOOO they killed off _______
5) ______ needs to die ASAP


just sayin'
 
2013-03-10 11:02:11 AM

One Bad Apple: I wonder if we can whip up a Walking Dead cliche list and check them off throughout the thread


All except #1 are perfectly reasonable things to talk about in a tv show thread that's an ongoing, per-episode, anticipatory discussion.  Mention of the comic book is redundant and useless, considering how different the show apparently is.
 
2013-03-10 11:04:04 AM

thamike: I'm so happy I'm completely unfamiliar with the comic.  People sound constrained.


I've read all the comics but I don't feel constrained. They are completely different animals. I'm really glad they only barely follow the comics' storylines cause it makes it a lot more fun to watch if you don't know what's going to happen next, and I don't think anyone who reads them could tell you what was going to happen next on the show.

The Governor was a hell of a lot scarier in the books, though.
 
2013-03-10 11:18:55 AM

NeoCortex42: On the other hand, it's possible they open up the knapsack and realize the guy could have been useful. Something needs to snap Rick out of his mentality of "everybody not in the group needs to die".


See I thought that was the whole reason Michonne was along. Start of the episode she was an outsider rick didn't trust to leave alone with the group, as she'd run off the first time their interest didn't coincide. By the end of the episode they're actually talking to each other.
 
2013-03-10 11:20:06 AM

thamike: No, it's like saying I am able to enjoy a show without squealing at every way it differs from the source material.


One Bad Apple: 1) "The comic book was better" snobbery


I'm not squealing and I'm not being a snob. The assault on the prison (if they do have one) will definitely not be as epic. It's just a statement of fact. The production costs would be too prohibitive for their budget.
 
2013-03-10 12:25:18 PM

Lando Lincoln: I'm not squealing and I'm not being a snob. The assault on the prison (if they do have one) will definitely not be as epic. It's just a statement of fact. The production costs would be too prohibitive for their budget.


Neither of us said you, in particular, were doing either.  The "kiddie ride" dig doesn't really help your case though.
 
2013-03-10 12:28:26 PM

Confabulat: I've read all the comics but I don't feel constrained. They are completely different animals. I'm really glad they only barely follow the comics' storylines cause it makes it a lot more fun to watch if you don't know what's going to happen next, and I don't think anyone who reads them could tell you what was going to happen next on the show.


Well yeah, that's what rational people do.  Other people live in a culture based on competitive absolutes.

/I know, I know...welcometotheinternet.jpg
 
2013-03-10 01:39:07 PM
Looks like tonight's guests on Talking Dead are Lauren Cohan (Maggie) and Eliza Dushku. At least Cohan should have some good behind-the-scenes stories.
 
2013-03-10 01:42:07 PM

Lando Lincoln: I'm not squealing and I'm not being a snob. The assault on the prison (if they do have one) will definitely not be as epic. It's just a statement of fact. The production costs would be too prohibitive for their budget.


Even putting costs aside, the TV governor simply doesn't have the manpower that the comic governor did.
 
2013-03-10 01:48:41 PM

Pokey.Clyde: Lando Lincoln: I'm not squealing and I'm not being a snob. The assault on the prison (if they do have one) will definitely not be as epic. It's just a statement of fact. The production costs would be too prohibitive for their budget.

Even putting costs aside, the TV governor simply doesn't have the manpower that the comic governor did.


Neither does Rick, at the moment.  No super-sniper Andrea or Tyreese.  There's probably a few more minor characters that were at the prison I'm forgetting as well.

I'm fine with a smaller-scale battle.  It could still be done quite well.
 
2013-03-10 04:55:24 PM

thamike:


All except #1 are perfectly reasonable things to talk about in a tv show thread that's an ongoing, per-episode, anticipatory discussion.  Mention of the comic book is redundant and useless, considering how different the show apparently is.


The cliche list is about the thread cliches more than the show
 
2013-03-10 05:12:13 PM
As they start to drive by the remains of the guy, my gf yells "Why don't you just stop and pick up his backpack?!" and then they do.. and she's like "GODDAMMIT RICK YOU FARKING ASSHOLE" .. i'm like.. "What? You just told him to." .. heh
 
2013-03-10 05:24:58 PM

kronicfeld: Last week's episode was probably the best since the series premiere. Loved the "I'm sorry this happened to you" throwback.

I don't know if the last episode is enough to salvage the piss poor job they've done with Michonne, but it was a good start.


I don't think that they've done a poor job.  she's not comic Michonne yet (i.e.: Rick's right hand), but there are other characters filling that role, most notably Darryl.  Her arc is a little closer to what Tyrese's was in the comics.  Where they're going with TV Tyrese isn't yet clear, but how they somehow transition him back to Team Rick will be interesting.  I would imagine that some mutual life saving will be required.
 
2013-03-10 05:39:56 PM
OK, why is this tagged "Whole Foods Markets"?
 
2013-03-10 06:43:42 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-03-10 08:27:26 PM

One Bad Apple: Lando Lincoln: thamike: I'm so happy I'm completely unfamiliar with the comic.  People sound constrained

That's like saying you're happy that you stuck to the little kiddie roller coaster and never went on the one with the loops.

I wonder if we can whip up a Walking Dead cliche list and check them off throughout the thread


1) "The comic book was better" snobbery
2) _____ is a goner because they got some character exposition recently
3) _____ is a goner because another black guy just showed up
4) NOOOOO they killed off _______
5) ______ needs to die ASAP

'


6) Shiat! __________ is on "The Talking Dead". Bye, bye, _________!
7) Chris Hardwick is the worst host ever.
 
2013-03-10 08:30:11 PM

ekdikeo4: OK, why is this tagged "Whole Foods Markets"?


Zombies gotta eat, ya' know?
 
2013-03-10 08:33:30 PM
Can Andrea get eaten already?
 
2013-03-10 08:35:53 PM

Glitchwerks: Can Andrea get eaten already?


that already happened quite a few episodes ago, michonne took care of it.
 
2013-03-10 08:36:30 PM

OtherLittleGuy: One Bad Apple: Lando Lincoln: thamike: I'm so happy I'm completely unfamiliar with the comic.  People sound constrained

That's like saying you're happy that you stuck to the little kiddie roller coaster and never went on the one with the loops.

I wonder if we can whip up a Walking Dead cliche list and check them off throughout the thread


1) "The comic book was better" snobbery
2) _____ is a goner because they got some character exposition recently
3) _____ is a goner because another black guy just showed up
4) NOOOOO they killed off _______
5) ______ needs to die ASAP

'

6) Shiat! __________ is on "The Talking Dead". Bye, bye, _________!
7) Chris Hardwick is the worst host ever.


8) This thread is too early for the show!
9) Why are you guys still watching this crap? I stopped watching five minutes into the pilot.
 
2013-03-10 08:36:34 PM
If you people hate this show so much why do you watch it every week?
 
2013-03-10 08:40:07 PM

Crewmannumber6: If you people hate this show so much why do you watch it every week?


That's 10)
 
2013-03-10 08:40:32 PM
Question:  How do the zombies' muscles work?  For us living humans, we have to use food as fuel, then through various chemical processes, we can use that fuel to make our muscles contract.  But with their muscles decomposing/dead, how exactly does this work with a zombie?  What if they haven't had a meal in a long time?
 
2013-03-10 08:42:05 PM
NeoCortex42:
I'm expecting the next couple episodes to be mostly shifting things around and setting up the battle to happen in the last couple episodes.

The prison battle seems to me to be the type of thing that has season finale written all over it.
/In zombie blood
 
2013-03-10 08:42:07 PM

What_Would_Jimi_Do: that already happened quite a few episodes ago, michonne took care of it.


This is exactly what I was thinking....that long cold winter, huddled up together to stay warm all those months...you gotta figure there was some lovin' to be had.
 
2013-03-10 08:42:52 PM

ambassador_ahab: Question:  How do the zombies' muscles work?  For us living humans, we have to use food as fuel, then through various chemical processes, we can use that fuel to make our muscles contract.  But with their muscles decomposing/dead, how exactly does this work with a zombie?  What if they haven't had a meal in a long time?


To quote Joel, or was it Mike: it's just a show, you should really just relax
 
2013-03-10 08:44:33 PM

NeoCortex42: I'm fine with a smaller-scale battle. It could still be done quite well.


I mean, the last stand at the farm was pretty farking awesome.  And I totally dug Herschel's "unlimited-ammo" shotgun.
 
2013-03-10 08:45:58 PM

Crewmannumber6: To quote Joel, or was it Mike: it's just a show, you should really just relax


I know, but I found it fascinating to consider.  There are other animals that can indeed be infected by parasites that can induce "zombie-like" behavior, so it's not unheard-of by any means.  And in the other animals, it's real.
 
2013-03-10 08:47:02 PM
Ok, I know I'm probably going to catch flack for this but...I had no idea they were so close to where everything started, close enough to get weapons from the crazy black dude from the first season. If they were that close to him, why didn't they go check on him sooner?

The hitchhiker thing was a bit disturbing...what if that guy was a Dr. or Army sniper or something? Why ignore him completely when they could have picked him up or at least questioned him. I don't see how they are going to win a war against Woodbury unless they get some more people in the group.

/death predictions for this season since I don't hit these threads much: Governor, Merle, and the little weasel from Woodbury who was studying the zombies
 
2013-03-10 08:47:29 PM

ambassador_ahab: Question:  How do the zombies' muscles work?  For us living humans, we have to use food as fuel, then through various chemical processes, we can use that fuel to make our muscles contract.  But with their muscles decomposing/dead, how exactly does this work with a zombie?  What if they haven't had a meal in a long time?


It's best not to dig too deep into zombie physiology. The whole thing has a way of crumbling in upon itself. I know Farkers hate Cracked lists, but their one about zombie outbreaks had a lot of valid points.

http://www.cracked.com/article_18683_7-scientific-reasons-zombie-outb r eak-would-fail-quickly.html
 
2013-03-10 08:47:58 PM

NeoCortex42: I'm expecting the next couple episodes to be mostly shifting things around and setting up the battle to happen in the last couple episodes


This
 
2013-03-10 08:50:47 PM
Man, people sure did grow attached to that hitchhiker quickly.  It was just a plot device, folks.  And some guy running around with no weapons screaming his ass off clearly wasn't smart enough to be a good contributor to their group.
 
2013-03-10 08:52:55 PM
Question 2:  When you're on the run and its just one or two zombies, why not just shove them out of the way?  How is it so easy for just one or two zombies to bite you?  If T-Dog hadn't already been bit, why not just shove the last 2 zombies out of the way?  Why did he have to "hold them down" for her to escape?
 
2013-03-10 08:53:52 PM

ambassador_ahab: Question:  How do the zombies' muscles work?  For us living humans, we have to use food as fuel, then through various chemical processes, we can use that fuel to make our muscles contract.  But with their muscles decomposing/dead, how exactly does this work with a zombie?  What if they haven't had a meal in a long time?


The show doesn't explain. The closest they've come is to show some zombies that don't have enough energy to attack people.
 
2013-03-10 08:54:35 PM
I say hitchiker dude was just a plot device to show how unsentimental the principal characters are now to the plight of others. stopping and picking up the backpack just shows their pragmatism. You can't save everybody but perhaps you can glean something for future use
 
2013-03-10 08:55:05 PM

Now That's What I Call a Taco!: ambassador_ahab: Question:  How do the zombies' muscles work?  For us living humans, we have to use food as fuel, then through various chemical processes, we can use that fuel to make our muscles contract.  But with their muscles decomposing/dead, how exactly does this work with a zombie?  What if they haven't had a meal in a long time?

It's best not to dig too deep into zombie physiology. The whole thing has a way of crumbling in upon itself. I know Farkers hate Cracked lists, but their one about zombie outbreaks had a lot of valid points.

http://www.cracked.com/article_18683_7-scientific-reasons-zombie-outb r eak-would-fail-quickly.html


Or you could read World War Z.  The Walking Dead seem to be following that zombie universe versus others like Zombieland and 28 Days Later where the zombies are rampaging, berserker types.
 
2013-03-10 08:55:18 PM

Glitchwerks: Can Andrea get eaten already?


The governor has been taking care of that for a while.
 
2013-03-10 08:57:06 PM

Farty McPooPants: Now That's What I Call a Taco!: ambassador_ahab: Question:  How do the zombies' muscles work?  For us living humans, we have to use food as fuel, then through various chemical processes, we can use that fuel to make our muscles contract.  But with their muscles decomposing/dead, how exactly does this work with a zombie?  What if they haven't had a meal in a long time?

It's best not to dig too deep into zombie physiology. The whole thing has a way of crumbling in upon itself. I know Farkers hate Cracked lists, but their one about zombie outbreaks had a lot of valid points.

http://www.cracked.com/article_18683_7-scientific-reasons-zombie-outb r eak-would-fail-quickly.html

Or you could read World War Z.  The Walking Dead seem to be following that zombie universe versus others like Zombieland and 28 Days Later where the zombies are rampaging, berserker types.


28 Days Later wasn't zombies.
 
2013-03-10 08:58:23 PM

Now That's What I Call a Taco!: Man, people sure did grow attached to that hitchhiker quickly.  It was just a plot device, folks.  And some guy running around with no weapons screaming his ass off clearly wasn't smart enough to be a good contributor to their group.


I hope season 4 is all about the unknown hitchhiker and how he got to be where he was, all the way from the beginning of the zombie invasion. And then, the last episode of the season begins with him being passed up by Rick in the car and the guy goes yelling for Rick to stop. At the end of the episode, we say to ourselves, "Wow. James [or whatever his name turns out to be] was one of the greatest human beings to ever live, and Rick just passed him up like he was a piece of garbage. Rick is SUCH an asshole."
 
2013-03-10 08:58:46 PM
I really hope this Michonne shows up in future episodes and wasn't just due to a single writer. This episode was the best her character's ever been.
 
2013-03-10 08:59:31 PM
Whew! Made it just in time.

Hitchhiker talk, eh? It would be cool if something in his pack lead the group on an interesting journey sometime.
 
2013-03-10 08:59:42 PM

Lando Lincoln: Now That's What I Call a Taco!: Man, people sure did grow attached to that hitchhiker quickly.  It was just a plot device, folks.  And some guy running around with no weapons screaming his ass off clearly wasn't smart enough to be a good contributor to their group.

I hope season 4 is all about the unknown hitchhiker and how he got to be where he was, all the way from the beginning of the zombie invasion. And then, the last episode of the season begins with him being passed up by Rick in the car and the guy goes yelling for Rick to stop. At the end of the episode, we say to ourselves, "Wow. James [or whatever his name turns out to be] was one of the greatest human beings to ever live, and Rick just passed him up like he was a piece of garbage. Rick is SUCH an asshole."


There's always the video game.

/Yes, I know. Not the same universe.
 
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