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2013-03-10 11:02:16 AM
3 votes:
Mitch McConnell is legalized bribery's best friend in Washington. There should be a picture of him next to the word corruption in the dictionary. He and his ilk are turning America into a banana republic where bribery and graft are the only ways anything gets done. Ashley Judd by virtue of not being him has my vote.
2013-03-10 10:37:02 PM
2 votes:

jayphat: I will 100% give you the deep on Paul and his father's name. His filibuster has SOME legitimate concerns about drones but he took it WAY off the deep end with some of it.


Not to mention not word one on repealing the 2001 AUMF which gives the broad authority to under certain extraordinary circumstances yadda-yadda-yadda in the first goddamn place. As long as Paul fails to use that as step freakin' one in any anti-drone rhetoric, it's nothing in as far as I'm concerned but cheap political theater and exceedingly stupid concern trolling.
2013-03-10 03:38:05 PM
2 votes:

cman: From wikipedia:

They did not have children, with Judd telling the Sunday Mail, "It's unconscionable to breed, with the number of children who are starving to death in impoverished countries"

That is a big red flag for me.

Humans are selfish. They are supposed to care only for themselves and those who are closely related. This is evolutionary warfare; our genes matter more than the next persons.

Pure altruism does not befit our species because in survival of the fittest we fight to pass our genes along. If she does not think that her genes deserve more of a chance than others, well, thats just not humanity.

I am unsure if I can explain this without looking like a total douche. I guess the most basic thing to say is that "Normal healthy people do not act that way". Is there some underlying psychological condition that she has that she excuses by saying that?


Look up the prisoner's dilemma and recent models for it. Turns out, self-sacrifice IS a gene and it actually will crowd out selfishness over time due to the fact that individuals that cooperate are more likely to prosper than one selfish individual.
2013-03-10 03:16:22 PM
2 votes:

Stone Meadow: Sure they do. Don't be such a literalist. Hillary is going to go into campaign mode later this year, and by next year she will have formally declared and be whistle-stopping the country, helping every Democrat she can link up with, including Judd is she runs. Ergo, Judd will benefit from Hillary's campaign.


Well... yeah, but to measure that kind of influence you'd need a micrometer and an alternate universe control group. Another thing that will affect the outcome is the relative humidity on Election Day. Somewhere out there is a DCCC memo on how Democrats outperform Republicans when it's muggy, or some such thing.

Basically, what you're describing is the fact that campaigns do not take place in a vacuum, not coattails.

I mean, yeah, Hillary Clinton exists in the world, and influences voting by virtue of that existence. For example, she's made an appearance in every fundraising letter that the right wing has sent out in the last twenty years. If she stumps with Judd, you can be damn sure that footage of it will find its way, in scary grainy black-and-white form, into a McConnell negative ad. Which way does that swing the vote, all told? What about the 90 other things that happened that week? What about next week's rubber chicken dinner, when she appears at a dais with Joe Biden, or any of the other people sniffing around the Democratic presidential nomination? They all have an effect.

Coattails happen when people turn out to vote for one candidate--almost always a presidential candidate--and then as an afterthought, vote for all the other members of that party. They were always theoretically in favor of those guys being elected; they just couldn't be bothered to show up in an off-year election. Voters like to chase winners, so if (for example) a Democrat is beating up on his Republican presidential opponent, you can get a surge of Dem voters in red states. They don't win the electoral votes, but they can upset downticket races.

I'd be thrilled if Judd, or for that matter any Democrat, beat McConnell in 2014. But there's absolutely no reason to think that a hypothetical appearance or two with an as-yet-undeclared Hillary Clinton is going to make any measurable difference in and of itself. That ain't coattails!
2013-03-10 02:38:53 PM
2 votes:

semiotix: No, but seriously, coattails do not work that way.


Sure they do. Don't be such a literalist. Hillary is going to go into campaign mode later this year, and by next year she will have formally declared and be whistle-stopping the country, helping every Democrat she can link up with, including Judd is she runs. Ergo, Judd will benefit from Hillary's campaign.
2013-03-10 12:38:41 PM
2 votes:

king_nacho: NaziKamikaze: Anybody (also, nobody in the sense of a vacated seat) is better than Mitch Mcconnell. He said that all he was going to do was try to keep Obama from getting reelected.

Sorry, Mitch, that's not your job. I don't care who the president is, your job is representing your state in legislative matters. You don't belong in Congress if that's your take on things.

mitch does very well at representing Kentucky in legislative matters, and really, trying to keep Obama out of office was a Priority for Kentucky as it could greatly affect coal.


No he doesn't, he blocks bills that would create jobs, votes against laws that help protect women, and is costing us a lot of military jobs.

Trying to keep Obama out of office is nowhere near a priority for Kentucky...at all.   And coal isn't some sacred cow, it is a rock that burns, but doesn't burn cleanly and it is incredibly messy to get to.  We're a beautiful state and coal mining is costing us some truly beautiful areas.

so fark you.
2013-03-10 11:49:23 AM
2 votes:
Anybody (also, nobody in the sense of a vacated seat) is better than Mitch Mcconnell. He said that all he was going to do was try to keep Obama from getting reelected.

Sorry, Mitch, that's not your job. I don't care who the president is, your job is representing your state in legislative matters. You don't belong in Congress if that's your take on things.
2013-03-10 11:38:36 AM
2 votes:

MFAWG: johnryan51: What did St. Reagan do before becoming prez?

He was the head of Hollywoods largest and most powerful union.


And he only got that gig because TPTB knew he'd cooperate with the alcoholic paranoid fascism of Joe McCarthy & HUAC in destroying the careers of people who were considered too liberal for America. I think the term they used for Reagan was "useful idiot".
2013-03-10 10:39:44 AM
2 votes:
Does it ever bother anyone that, and I'll use this situation assuming she gets the nod and it's her and Mitch, this is the absolute best we can come up with? Of all the people in this state, these two are the most qualified to fulfil the job? No one else would, could, and should be doing a better job?

Am I the only person who is just straight out pissed at this system?
2013-03-10 10:33:19 AM
2 votes:

WTF Indeed: Like all celebrities, she'll get tired of daily grind that is running for high office and coupled with a legitimate primary challenger, she'll lose and/or drop out.


Sorry to join in on the beatdown, but heck - the guy who preceded Rand Paul got his start as a pitcher for the Phillies.
2013-03-10 10:17:14 AM
2 votes:
WTF Indeed: Like all celebrities, she'll get tired of daily grind that is running for high office and coupled with a legitimate primary challenger, she'll lose and/or drop out.

Well seeing that KY is a solidly red state, and she is planning on running as a Dem, there is a perfectly good chance that she won't have a serious (like dem house member or state leg member) candidate  opposing her in the primary and she'ss actually end up against whomever the Republican is int he general election.
2013-03-10 10:16:08 AM
2 votes:

WTF Indeed: Like all celebrities, she'll get tired of daily grind that is running for high office and coupled with a legitimate primary challenger, she'll lose and/or drop out.


This is really too easy....
imnotbarack.files.wordpress.com
2013-03-10 10:13:41 AM
2 votes:

max_pooper: cman: I believe that "Kentuckian" is the proper nomenclature

Hill Billy is also acceptable


Hillbilly is not two words.
2013-03-10 10:10:21 AM
2 votes:

WTF Indeed: Like all celebrities, she'll get tired of daily grind that is running for high office and coupled with a legitimate primary challenger, she'll lose and/or drop out.


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2013-03-10 08:33:19 PM
1 votes:

jayphat: Does it ever bother anyone that, and I'll use this situation assuming she gets the nod and it's her and Mitch, this is the absolute best we can come up with? Of all the people in this state, these two are the most qualified to fulfil the job? No one else would, could, and should be doing a better job?

Am I the only person who is just straight out pissed at this system?


In terms of qualifications, Ashley Judd actually has a Master of Public Administration degree.  It's not like she has nothing but name recognition, she's well known to be outspoken on many political issues relevant to Kentucky such as mountaintop removal coal mining, and has a graduate degree in being a public administrator/leader.

Certainly more credentials than Rand Paul got when he was elected from the state mostly on the recognition of his fathers name and the magnitude of his Derp.
2013-03-10 03:39:25 PM
1 votes:
www.dphoto.us

mmmm. nice judds.
2013-03-10 02:46:15 PM
1 votes:

shotglasss: Hillary's coattails. Really? After her 'It doesn't matter that they died' comment regarding her employees in State? You assume the people in KY are really stupid and don't care about their country. I assure you that you are wrong on that account.


I can't believe this farktard is still trying to make an issue out Benghazi.
2013-03-10 02:24:42 PM
1 votes:

Now That's What I Call a Taco!: I think she'll win.  Especially if some tea-tard beats McConnell in the primary.  You just know that they're going to say some asinine Todd Aiken-type ish.  They'll underestimate her because she's a beautiful woman, and then their attacks will look worse for the same reason.

Her star power will excite the base and help with turnout.  If she can run up the score in Lexington and Louisville, and grab a good chunk of rural women... so long, turtle boy.


I think she'll win for the simple reason that the majority of this country is uber-fascinated with celebrities/entertainers - to an unhealthy degree I might add.
2013-03-10 02:24:38 PM
1 votes:

shotglasss: I'll be surprised if she makes it past the primary if there's an experienced Democrat against her.


Okay, prepare to be surprised. If she DOES run...which is not official yet...she will have lots of help, and I do not underestimate her chances.

Hillary's coattails. Really? After her 'It doesn't matter that they died' comment regarding her employees in State? You assume the people in KY are really stupid and don't care about their country. I assure you that you are wrong on that account.

I make no such assumptions about KY. I'm saying she will give McConnell the fight of his life if she runs. Do you concede the point or not.

You act like there are no rich Democrats. Hollywood is full of millionaire and multi-millionaire liberals that can't wait to give maximum amounts to liberals. ...


Where do I act that way? And were you not paying attention last year when Adelson, the Koch Bros, et al were pouring tens to hundreds of millions into local and national races to further their oligarchic agendas?
2013-03-10 02:10:13 PM
1 votes:
I think she'll win.  Especially if some tea-tard beats McConnell in the primary.  You just know that they're going to say some asinine Todd Aiken-type ish.  They'll underestimate her because she's a beautiful woman, and then their attacks will look worse for the same reason.

Her star power will excite the base and help with turnout.  If she can run up the score in Lexington and Louisville, and grab a good chunk of rural women... so long, turtle boy.
2013-03-10 01:26:20 PM
1 votes:

Rusty Shackleford: Ah...this (and the County seat thing) makes sense. Especially after sampling some of the excellent bourbon-finished beers (one of which was something like 10.5%).


Kentucky's counties are very small compared to most other states so almost every significant town has the courthouse and lawyers offices and most of the food and shopping is on the edge of town in the form of Wally Worlds or worse and strip malls and drive thrus.
2013-03-10 01:22:58 PM
1 votes:

shotglasss: PornStarStuntDouble: shotglasss: Have no fear, Kentucky. Ashley Judd is so dumb that she makes Maxine Waters look like Einstein. She's going to get destroyed in the primary by a ham sammich and go back to Hollywood to cry on The View about how mean those rednecks are and then publish a book about how women are being held back.

Google is that friend you have who will keep you from saying stupid shiat.

From the Wiki

Judd received a MPA from the JFK School of Government from Harvard in 2010

I know some very stupid people who have advanced educations. It means nothing, and Ashley Judd is still stupid.


An educated idiot is still an idiot. Sort of like gold-plating a turd.
2013-03-10 01:20:07 PM
1 votes:

cman: Is there some underlying psychological condition that she has that she excuses by saying that?



It's the worst disease of all, "I don't want/can't have kids".

I'm 30, have no SO or children, and want neither. But when the subject comes up in conversation, even among hard-core fundamentalists, telling them that I'm gay almost always has a better reaction than telling the truth.

/Still have scars from the time I told the truth to my aunt, when she demanded to know why I refused a surprise date from her daughter
2013-03-10 01:12:55 PM
1 votes:

proteus_b: Rusty Shackleford: One question remains: every little town we drove through had a nice old town square, with nothing but 20 or so lawyers' offices in it. WTF?

lots of guns
lots of liquor
lots of need to split up property/assess damages/prosecute/defend in the aftermath


Ah...this (and the County seat thing) makes sense. Especially after sampling some of the excellent bourbon-finished beers (one of which was something like 10.5%).

I visited the General George Patton Museum at Fort Knox, only to find many of the galleries closed for refurbishing.

I slapped the curator and called him a "yellow-bellied son of a biatch."
2013-03-10 12:59:59 PM
1 votes:

king_nacho: NaziKamikaze: Anybody (also, nobody in the sense of a vacated seat) is better than Mitch Mcconnell. He said that all he was going to do was try to keep Obama from getting reelected.

Sorry, Mitch, that's not your job. I don't care who the president is, your job is representing your state in legislative matters. You don't belong in Congress if that's your take on things.

mitch does very well at representing Kentucky in legislative matters, and really, trying to keep Obama out of office was a Priority for Kentucky as it could greatly affect coal.


You don't know what you're talking about, do you?

He doesn't seem to do anything except drag his feet and make dumb statements, and coal is not key as people have argued (for the express purpose of getting people riled up over Obama, who isn't trying to completely rid us of coal).
2013-03-10 12:24:36 PM
1 votes:

Oldiron_79: WTF Indeed: Like all celebrities, she'll get tired of daily grind that is running for high office and coupled with a legitimate primary challenger, she'll lose and/or drop out.

Well seeing that KY is a solidly red state, and she is planning on running as a Dem, there is a perfectly good chance that she won't have a serious (like dem house member or state leg member) candidate  opposing her in the primary and she'ss actually end up against whomever the Republican is int he general election.


Actually, we're not a solid red state.   Louisville, Frankfort, and Lexington all went for Obama last election.  It just isn't enough people to override the inbred tards out in the mountains.
2013-03-10 12:13:01 PM
1 votes:

cman: From wikipedia:

They did not have children, with Judd telling the Sunday Mail, "It's unconscionable to breed, with the number of children who are starving to death in impoverished countries"

That is a big red flag for me.

Humans are selfish. They are supposed to care only for themselves and those who are closely related. This is evolutionary warfare; our genes matter more than the next persons.

Pure altruism does not befit our species because in survival of the fittest we fight to pass our genes along. If she does not think that her genes deserve more of a chance than others, well, thats just not humanity.

I am unsure if I can explain this without looking like a total douche. I guess the most basic thing to say is that "Normal healthy people do not act that way". Is there some underlying psychological condition that she has that she excuses by saying that?


Yeah, it's called "I don't like / want kids but if I don't make up a socially acceptable reason people will call me a dy*e."

I can understand someone not wanting kids, but society at large doesn't. There's your human selfishness, and it's easy to understand.
2013-03-10 12:12:30 PM
1 votes:

NaziKamikaze: Anybody (also, nobody in the sense of a vacated seat) is better than Mitch Mcconnell. He said that all he was going to do was try to keep Obama from getting reelected.

Sorry, Mitch, that's not your job. I don't care who the president is, your job is representing your state in legislative matters. You don't belong in Congress if that's your take on things.


mitch does very well at representing Kentucky in legislative matters, and really, trying to keep Obama out of office was a Priority for Kentucky as it could greatly affect coal.
2013-03-10 12:06:07 PM
1 votes:

PornStarStuntDouble: shotglasss: Have no fear, Kentucky. Ashley Judd is so dumb that she makes Maxine Waters look like Einstein. She's going to get destroyed in the primary by a ham sammich and go back to Hollywood to cry on The View about how mean those rednecks are and then publish a book about how women are being held back.

Google is that friend you have who will keep you from saying stupid shiat.

From the Wiki

Judd received a MPA from the JFK School of Government from Harvard in 2010


I know some very stupid people who have advanced educations. It means nothing, and Ashley Judd is still stupid.
2013-03-10 12:00:45 PM
1 votes:

Rusty Shackleford: As a Canadian who spent last weekend in Kentucky, I'm getting a kick, etc.
One question remains: every little town we drove through had a nice old town square, with nothing but 20 or so lawyers' offices in it. WTF?


These towns are spread out in more rural areas with one per County, and known as the County Seat

They all shut down around 5pm and many have no other services available other than legal and government-related ones.
The County Seat is the operations center of the county government, here one will find the county courthouse, sheriff's office, jail, clerks office, tax offices, health department and usually an office of the state police.
So that might explain all the lawyers.
2013-03-10 11:25:23 AM
1 votes:

cman: From wikipedia:

They did not have children, with Judd telling the Sunday Mail, "It's unconscionable to breed, with the number of children who are starving to death in impoverished countries"

That is a big red flag for me.


That sounds a lot better than "My family is kinda farked up with a lot of issues, even if we do have some fame.  I'm afraid if I bring another one of us into the world, I'll have more of the same for the rest of my life".

Just wild speculation on my end, but it sounds more feasible to me than her official reason.
2013-03-10 11:09:26 AM
1 votes:

johnryan51: What did St. Reagan do before becoming prez?


He was the head of Hollywoods largest and most powerful union.
2013-03-10 11:05:24 AM
1 votes:

WTF Indeed: Like all celebrities, she'll get tired of daily grind thai.imgur.comrop out.

2013-03-10 11:01:41 AM
1 votes:

Rusty Shackleford: As a Canadian who spent last weekend in Kentucky, I'm getting a kick, etc.

- Learned it's pronounced Lou-ah-ville;
- Learned that you guys keep the good bourbon down there for yourselves;
- Learned that US gun shows are both entertaining and frightening.

One question remains: every little town we drove through had a nice old town square, with nothing but 20 or so lawyers' offices in it. WTF?


Did you loom to see if a bar was close? Lawyers love to get their clients right next door.

/Grew up in a small town
//lawyers office was above the bar
///was also the mayor
2013-03-10 10:57:51 AM
1 votes:

WTF Indeed: Like all celebrities, she'll get tired of daily grind that is running for high office and coupled with a legitimate primary challenger, she'll lose and/or drop out.


You rang?

static.prtst.net
2013-03-10 10:55:24 AM
1 votes:

WTF Indeed: Like all celebrities, she'll get tired of daily grind that is running for high office and coupled with a legitimate primary challenger, she'll lose and/or drop out.


i.imgur.com
2013-03-10 10:48:48 AM
1 votes:

king_nacho: Guuberre: WTF Indeed: Like all celebrities, she'll get tired of daily grind that is running for high office and coupled with a legitimate primary challenger, she'll lose and/or drop out.

This is really too easy....
[imnotbarack.files.wordpress.com image 330x400]

I think you should consider the pictures you posted, with the exception of Bono, none of them were household names, and Bono wasn't really that big of a celebrity when he went into office.


Yeah, I know - but those are/were minor celebrities or entertainers. At least I didn't bring up this guy:

Ladies and gentlemen, the great state of Georgia presents former Congressman Cooter!
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/so proud
2013-03-10 10:47:54 AM
1 votes:

WTF Indeed: Like all celebrities, she'll get tired of daily grind that is running for high office and coupled with a legitimate primary challenger, she'll lose and/or drop out.


a.abcnews.com
2013-03-10 10:47:47 AM
1 votes:
As a Canadian who spent last weekend in Kentucky, I'm getting a kick, etc.

- Learned it's pronounced Lou-ah-ville;
- Learned that you guys keep the good bourbon down there for yourselves;
- Learned that US gun shows are both entertaining and frightening.

One question remains: every little town we drove through had a nice old town square, with nothing but 20 or so lawyers' offices in it. WTF?
2013-03-10 10:45:27 AM
1 votes:

king_nacho: Guuberre: WTF Indeed: Like all celebrities, she'll get tired of daily grind that is running for high office and coupled with a legitimate primary challenger, she'll lose and/or drop out.

This is really too easy....
[imnotbarack.files.wordpress.com image 330x400]

I think you should consider the pictures you posted, with the exception of Bono, none of them were household names, and Bono wasn't really that big of a celebrity when he went into office.


I'm not sure Ashley Judd is a household name, or even that big of a celebrity. The more important distinction between her and those others may be that she's female. The worst stereotypes of celebrity might be applied much more harshly to her because of that.
2013-03-10 10:44:11 AM
1 votes:

max_pooper: True. Liberal Minnesota would never send a crazy right wing nut job like Michelle Bachmann to Washington.


Did Bachmann run statewide? No. She ran for a House seat.  It's almost like politics is local.
2013-03-10 10:42:09 AM
1 votes:

WTF Indeed: Like all celebrities, she'll get tired of daily grind that is running for high office and coupled with a legitimate primary challenger, she'll lose and/or drop out.


i.imgur.com
2013-03-10 10:18:20 AM
1 votes:
Bipolar eh? Never put your vote in crazy.
2013-03-10 10:17:50 AM
1 votes:

cman: max_pooper: cman: I believe that "Kentuckian" is the proper nomenclature

Hill Billy is also acceptable

Way to show your bigotry


Oh please, calling water wet isn't bigotry
2013-03-10 10:14:58 AM
1 votes:
What did St. Reagan do before becoming prez?
2013-03-10 10:11:40 AM
1 votes:

WTF Indeed: Like all celebrities, she'll get tired of daily grind that is running for high office and coupled with a legitimate primary challenger, she'll lose and/or drop out.


yeah, an sctor will never be governor of California...
2013-03-10 08:43:44 AM
1 votes:

cman: I believe that "Kentuckian" is the proper nomenclature


Hill Billy is also acceptable
 
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