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2013-03-10 08:02:11 AM
So, sorta kinda official now?
 
2013-03-10 08:40:18 AM
I believe that "Kentuckian" is the proper nomenclature
 
2013-03-10 08:43:44 AM

cman: I believe that "Kentuckian" is the proper nomenclature


Hill Billy is also acceptable
 
2013-03-10 08:45:36 AM

max_pooper: cman: I believe that "Kentuckian" is the proper nomenclature

Hill Billy is also acceptable


Way to show your bigotry
 
2013-03-10 08:56:00 AM

cman: max_pooper: cman: I believe that "Kentuckian" is the proper nomenclature

Hill Billy is also acceptable

Way to show your bigotry


Won't someone think of the honkies... er, white people?
 
2013-03-10 09:01:24 AM
I like her personally, but she's gotta stop throwing around the rape subject so casually.  I get that it was terrible ordeal, but it's going to start sounding like "get out of dodge free" card soon.
Also, sometimes she says she was raped three times, and other times just twice.  That confuses people who don't know her story.
 
2013-03-10 09:23:37 AM
Like all celebrities, she'll get tired of daily grind that is running for high office and coupled with a legitimate primary challenger, she'll lose and/or drop out.
 
2013-03-10 09:50:48 AM
Senator Puffy Face!
 
2013-03-10 10:08:15 AM
Tennessee: At least we ain't Kentucky.
 
2013-03-10 10:09:53 AM

Peter von Nostrand: cman: max_pooper: cman: I believe that "Kentuckian" is the proper nomenclature

Hill Billy is also acceptable

Way to show your bigotry

Won't someone think of the honkies... er, white people?


Crackers, get it right
 
2013-03-10 10:10:21 AM

WTF Indeed: Like all celebrities, she'll get tired of daily grind that is running for high office and coupled with a legitimate primary challenger, she'll lose and/or drop out.


Hi, there!

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-03-10 10:11:40 AM

WTF Indeed: Like all celebrities, she'll get tired of daily grind that is running for high office and coupled with a legitimate primary challenger, she'll lose and/or drop out.


yeah, an sctor will never be governor of California...
 
2013-03-10 10:12:20 AM
So, does this mean she'll get nekkid for the camera, again?
No?
WHY CAN'T WE HAVE FUN/HOT POLITICIANS!?!?!?!?!?!!??
 
2013-03-10 10:12:49 AM
sources say

Another piece of craptacuar journalism by Huffpost.
 
2013-03-10 10:13:05 AM
I'm sure she's sincere and has a shot at 25% of the vote in Kentucky.
 
2013-03-10 10:13:16 AM

WTF Indeed: Like all celebrities, she'll get tired of daily grind that is running for high office and coupled with a legitimate primary challenger, she'll lose and/or drop out.


How ya doin'?

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-03-10 10:13:41 AM

max_pooper: cman: I believe that "Kentuckian" is the proper nomenclature

Hill Billy is also acceptable


Hillbilly is not two words.
 
2013-03-10 10:14:58 AM
What did St. Reagan do before becoming prez?
 
2013-03-10 10:16:02 AM

Igor Jakovsky: max_pooper: cman: I believe that "Kentuckian" is the proper nomenclature

Hill Billy is also acceptable

Hillbilly is not two words.


We also would have accepted meth head.
 
2013-03-10 10:16:08 AM

WTF Indeed: Like all celebrities, she'll get tired of daily grind that is running for high office and coupled with a legitimate primary challenger, she'll lose and/or drop out.


This is really too easy....
imnotbarack.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-03-10 10:17:14 AM
WTF Indeed: Like all celebrities, she'll get tired of daily grind that is running for high office and coupled with a legitimate primary challenger, she'll lose and/or drop out.

Well seeing that KY is a solidly red state, and she is planning on running as a Dem, there is a perfectly good chance that she won't have a serious (like dem house member or state leg member) candidate  opposing her in the primary and she'ss actually end up against whomever the Republican is int he general election.
 
2013-03-10 10:17:50 AM

cman: max_pooper: cman: I believe that "Kentuckian" is the proper nomenclature

Hill Billy is also acceptable

Way to show your bigotry


Oh please, calling water wet isn't bigotry
 
2013-03-10 10:18:20 AM
Bipolar eh? Never put your vote in crazy.
 
2013-03-10 10:22:06 AM

what_now: yeah, an actor will never be governor of California...


California(and Minnesota) is a drastically different dynamic then Kentucky.  California especially.
 
2013-03-10 10:24:29 AM
A rich crunchy with no grasp of economics or the bill of rights. What is not to like about her running?
 
2013-03-10 10:27:02 AM

OtherLittleGuy: Senator Puffy Face!


Puffy Face vs. Turtle Head: what a battle!

I think she will mesmerize him with a piece of lettuce.
 
2013-03-10 10:29:06 AM

Oldiron_79: Tennessee: At least we ain't Kentucky.


 absolutely..agreed.   two words for Kentucky..up north!!!
 
2013-03-10 10:33:19 AM

WTF Indeed: Like all celebrities, she'll get tired of daily grind that is running for high office and coupled with a legitimate primary challenger, she'll lose and/or drop out.


Sorry to join in on the beatdown, but heck - the guy who preceded Rand Paul got his start as a pitcher for the Phillies.
 
2013-03-10 10:34:12 AM

Oldiron_79: Tennessee: At least we ain't Kentucky.


Kentucky: At least we never lynched an elephant.
 
2013-03-10 10:35:05 AM

ThisSideofSteinway: WTF Indeed: Like all celebrities, she'll get tired of daily grind that is running for high office and coupled with a legitimate primary challenger, she'll lose and/or drop out.

Sorry to join in on the beatdown, but heck - the guy who preceded Rand Paul got his start as a pitcher for the Phillies Tigers.


/I'm my own pedant
 
2013-03-10 10:35:37 AM

WTF Indeed: what_now: yeah, an actor will never be governor of California...

California(and Minnesota) is a drastically different dynamic then Kentucky.  California especially.


We've had famous athletes, but I can't think of any actors that tried yet, I think she'll get the democratic nomination, if for no other reason that to force Mitch to spend some of his money
 
2013-03-10 10:36:16 AM
wellreadneck: Oldiron_79: Tennessee: At least we ain't Kentucky.

Kentucky: At least we never lynched an elephant.


Lord loves a hangin', that's why he give us necks.
It'll tighten up your vocal cords and loosen up your pecs.
 
2013-03-10 10:36:51 AM

Oldiron_79: Tennessee: At least we ain't Kentucky.


we say the same thing about Tennessee
 
2013-03-10 10:36:58 AM

skantea: I like her personally, but she's gotta stop throwing around the rape subject so casually.  I get that it was terrible ordeal, but it's going to start sounding like "get out of dodge free" card soon.
Also, sometimes she says she was raped three times, and other times just twice.  That confuses people who don't know her story.


She must REALLY like rape.
 
2013-03-10 10:37:44 AM

WTF Indeed: Like all celebrities, she'll get tired of daily grind that is running for high office and coupled with a legitimate primary challenger, she'll lose and/or drop out.


Just like Ronald Reagan and Al Franken and ...and... I forget the third thing...
 
2013-03-10 10:39:44 AM
Does it ever bother anyone that, and I'll use this situation assuming she gets the nod and it's her and Mitch, this is the absolute best we can come up with? Of all the people in this state, these two are the most qualified to fulfil the job? No one else would, could, and should be doing a better job?

Am I the only person who is just straight out pissed at this system?
 
2013-03-10 10:39:51 AM

Guuberre: WTF Indeed: Like all celebrities, she'll get tired of daily grind that is running for high office and coupled with a legitimate primary challenger, she'll lose and/or drop out.

This is really too easy....
[imnotbarack.files.wordpress.com image 330x400]


I think you should consider the pictures you posted, with the exception of Bono, none of them were household names, and Bono wasn't really that big of a celebrity when he went into office.
 
2013-03-10 10:41:43 AM

WTF Indeed: what_now: yeah, an actor will never be governor of California...

California(and Minnesota) is a drastically different dynamic then Kentucky.  California especially.


True. Liberal Minnesota would never send a crazy right wing nut job like Michelle Bachmann to Washington.
 
2013-03-10 10:42:04 AM

wellreadneck: Oldiron_79: Tennessee: At least we ain't Kentucky.

Kentucky: At least we never lynched an elephant.



   Hey!!!   its called thinning the herd..
 
2013-03-10 10:42:09 AM

WTF Indeed: Like all celebrities, she'll get tired of daily grind that is running for high office and coupled with a legitimate primary challenger, she'll lose and/or drop out.


i.imgur.com
 
2013-03-10 10:42:23 AM

WTF Indeed: what_now: yeah, an actor will never be governor of California...

California(and Minnesota) is a drastically different dynamic then Kentucky.  California especially.


True. Now, if Anthony Davis were to come back to Kentucky and run...
 
2013-03-10 10:42:46 AM

jayphat: Does it ever bother anyone that, and I'll use this situation assuming she gets the nod and it's her and Mitch, this is the absolute best we can come up with? Of all the people in this state, these two are the most qualified to fulfil the job? No one else would, could, and should be doing a better job?

Am I the only person who is just straight out pissed at this system?


I've been saying this for years.

But the thing about Mitch, he does take care of Kentucky. When it comes time to talk about Military base closures the ones in Kentucky are off the table. He also helps direct research money to all of the public research universities in the state, I'm not sure somebody like Judd or Rand Paul has the pull the continue that.
 
2013-03-10 10:44:11 AM

max_pooper: True. Liberal Minnesota would never send a crazy right wing nut job like Michelle Bachmann to Washington.


Did Bachmann run statewide? No. She ran for a House seat.  It's almost like politics is local.
 
2013-03-10 10:45:27 AM

king_nacho: Guuberre: WTF Indeed: Like all celebrities, she'll get tired of daily grind that is running for high office and coupled with a legitimate primary challenger, she'll lose and/or drop out.

This is really too easy....
[imnotbarack.files.wordpress.com image 330x400]

I think you should consider the pictures you posted, with the exception of Bono, none of them were household names, and Bono wasn't really that big of a celebrity when he went into office.


I'm not sure Ashley Judd is a household name, or even that big of a celebrity. The more important distinction between her and those others may be that she's female. The worst stereotypes of celebrity might be applied much more harshly to her because of that.
 
2013-03-10 10:47:47 AM
As a Canadian who spent last weekend in Kentucky, I'm getting a kick, etc.

- Learned it's pronounced Lou-ah-ville;
- Learned that you guys keep the good bourbon down there for yourselves;
- Learned that US gun shows are both entertaining and frightening.

One question remains: every little town we drove through had a nice old town square, with nothing but 20 or so lawyers' offices in it. WTF?
 
2013-03-10 10:47:52 AM
   A big celebrity,imho,would be her sister Wynona..
 
2013-03-10 10:47:54 AM

WTF Indeed: Like all celebrities, she'll get tired of daily grind that is running for high office and coupled with a legitimate primary challenger, she'll lose and/or drop out.


a.abcnews.com
 
2013-03-10 10:48:36 AM
You farkers are slipping. Wharr teh NSFW links?
 
2013-03-10 10:48:48 AM

king_nacho: Guuberre: WTF Indeed: Like all celebrities, she'll get tired of daily grind that is running for high office and coupled with a legitimate primary challenger, she'll lose and/or drop out.

This is really too easy....
[imnotbarack.files.wordpress.com image 330x400]

I think you should consider the pictures you posted, with the exception of Bono, none of them were household names, and Bono wasn't really that big of a celebrity when he went into office.


Yeah, I know - but those are/were minor celebrities or entertainers. At least I didn't bring up this guy:

Ladies and gentlemen, the great state of Georgia presents former Congressman Cooter!
img116.imageshack.us

/so proud
 
2013-03-10 10:48:52 AM
jayphat: Does it ever bother anyone that, and I'll use this situation assuming she gets the nod and it's her and Mitch, this is the absolute best we can come up with? Of all the people in this state, these two are the most qualified to fulfil the job? No one else would, could, and should be doing a better job?

Am I the only person who is just straight out pissed at this system?


Well its hard to get a serious candidate from the "wrong party" (blue candidate in red state and vice versa) because if you are say a congressman or state rep from a "wrong party" district you are looking at giving up your house seat in order to maybe win put probably lose the senate seat.

And of course if you are the "right party" for your state its considered bad form to challenge the incumbent from your party unless there is some scandal thats likely to make him(or her) lose in the general election, and you will have the full weight of the party machine working against you and for the incumbent.
 
2013-03-10 10:49:57 AM

ThisSideofSteinway: Sorry to join in on the beatdown, but heck - the guy who preceded Rand Paul got his start as a pitcher for the Phillies.


Jim Bunning started out as a House member and after 13 years he ran for Senate. He did not walk back into a state after his baseball career was over and decide he was going to run statewide.
 
2013-03-10 10:51:28 AM
Have no fear, Kentucky. Ashley Judd is so dumb that she makes Maxine Waters look like Einstein. She's going to get destroyed in the primary by a ham sammich and go back to Hollywood to cry on The View about how mean those rednecks are and then publish a book about how women are being held back.
 
2013-03-10 10:55:24 AM

WTF Indeed: Like all celebrities, she'll get tired of daily grind that is running for high office and coupled with a legitimate primary challenger, she'll lose and/or drop out.


i.imgur.com
 
2013-03-10 10:56:48 AM
4.bp.blogspot.com
img.ehowcdn.com
 
2013-03-10 10:57:48 AM

WTF Indeed: ThisSideofSteinway: Sorry to join in on the beatdown, but heck - the guy who preceded Rand Paul got his start as a pitcher for the Phillies.

Jim Bunning started out as a House member and after 13 years he ran for Senate. He did not walk back into a state after his baseball career was over and decide he was going to run statewide.


Perfectly valid point. Our point was just that your original contention was far too generalized, and that more than a few celebrities have successfully transitioned into electoral politics, with several beginning at the state level. (And yes, in those instances each was running in a more ideologically friendly state, so the precedent does look shaky for Judd.)
 
2013-03-10 10:57:51 AM

WTF Indeed: Like all celebrities, she'll get tired of daily grind that is running for high office and coupled with a legitimate primary challenger, she'll lose and/or drop out.


You rang?

static.prtst.net
 
2013-03-10 10:59:30 AM

ThisSideofSteinway: Perfectly valid point. Our point was just that your original contention was far too generalized, and that more than a few celebrities have successfully transitioned into electoral politics, with several beginning at the state level. (And yes, in those instances each was running in a more ideologically friendly state, so the precedent does look shaky for Judd.)


I should have said "Like many"
 
2013-03-10 11:01:41 AM

Rusty Shackleford: As a Canadian who spent last weekend in Kentucky, I'm getting a kick, etc.

- Learned it's pronounced Lou-ah-ville;
- Learned that you guys keep the good bourbon down there for yourselves;
- Learned that US gun shows are both entertaining and frightening.

One question remains: every little town we drove through had a nice old town square, with nothing but 20 or so lawyers' offices in it. WTF?


Did you loom to see if a bar was close? Lawyers love to get their clients right next door.

/Grew up in a small town
//lawyers office was above the bar
///was also the mayor
 
2013-03-10 11:02:16 AM
Mitch McConnell is legalized bribery's best friend in Washington. There should be a picture of him next to the word corruption in the dictionary. He and his ilk are turning America into a banana republic where bribery and graft are the only ways anything gets done. Ashley Judd by virtue of not being him has my vote.
 
2013-03-10 11:03:03 AM
When will Jennifer Lawrence be eligible to run for office?
Surely the herione of both  "Winter's Bone" and District 12 could unite the state.
 
2013-03-10 11:04:32 AM
I wish WTF Indeed and I had a side bet on this...
 
2013-03-10 11:05:24 AM

WTF Indeed: Like all celebrities, she'll get tired of daily grind thai.imgur.comrop out.

 
2013-03-10 11:07:48 AM

Oldiron_79: jayphat: Does it ever bother anyone that, and I'll use this situation assuming she gets the nod and it's her and Mitch, this is the absolute best we can come up with? Of all the people in this state, these two are the most qualified to fulfil the job? No one else would, could, and should be doing a better job?

Am I the only person who is just straight out pissed at this system?

Well its hard to get a serious candidate from the "wrong party" (blue candidate in red state and vice versa) because if you are say a congressman or state rep from a "wrong party" district you are looking at giving up your house seat in order to maybe win put probably lose the senate seat.

And of course if you are the "right party" for your state its considered bad form to challenge the incumbent from your party unless there is some scandal thats likely to make him(or her) lose in the general election, and you will have the full weight of the party machine working against you and for the incumbent.


I guess I was referring to the whole "this party vs that party" mentality. I mean, as an example and not to belittle your statement, you immediately thought of getting a house member from either party to run for Senator. Why? Why don't we actually let normal citizens run for these things instead of career politicians. Like the peoples House. A job that was meant to be held by normal Americans is now used as a JV squad for the Senate, something it was never meant to be thought of or meant to be.
 
2013-03-10 11:08:14 AM
From wikipedia:

They did not have children, with Judd telling the Sunday Mail, "It's unconscionable to breed, with the number of children who are starving to death in impoverished countries"

That is a big red flag for me.

Humans are selfish. They are supposed to care only for themselves and those who are closely related. This is evolutionary warfare; our genes matter more than the next persons.

Pure altruism does not befit our species because in survival of the fittest we fight to pass our genes along. If she does not think that her genes deserve more of a chance than others, well, thats just not humanity.

I am unsure if I can explain this without looking like a total douche. I guess the most basic thing to say is that "Normal healthy people do not act that way". Is there some underlying psychological condition that she has that she excuses by saying that?
 
2013-03-10 11:09:26 AM

johnryan51: What did St. Reagan do before becoming prez?


He was the head of Hollywoods largest and most powerful union.
 
2013-03-10 11:14:49 AM
As a Kentuckian, I'm getting a kick out of some of these replies.

Dems thought that running George Clooney's dad (a successful local newscaster and columnist) for congress was a fantastic idea, and he got his butt kicked by Geoff Davis. Judd left her roots a long time ago and while no doubt she has name recognition, she would lose handily to either McConnell or the random Tea Party candidate who might challenge and beat McConnell.
 
2013-03-10 11:16:22 AM

MFAWG: johnryan51: What did St. Reagan do before becoming prez?

He was the head of Hollywoods largest and most powerful union.


I believe he spent some time as governor of California between those two gigs.
 
2013-03-10 11:17:07 AM
jayphat: Oldiron_79: jayphat: Does it ever bother anyone that, and I'll use this situation assuming she gets the nod and it's her and Mitch, this is the absolute best we can come up with? Of all the people in this state, these two are the most qualified to fulfil the job? No one else would, could, and should be doing a better job?

Am I the only person who is just straight out pissed at this system?

Well its hard to get a serious candidate from the "wrong party" (blue candidate in red state and vice versa) because if you are say a congressman or state rep from a "wrong party" district you are looking at giving up your house seat in order to maybe win put probably lose the senate seat.

And of course if you are the "right party" for your state its considered bad form to challenge the incumbent from your party unless there is some scandal thats likely to make him(or her) lose in the general election, and you will have the full weight of the party machine working against you and for the incumbent.

I guess I was referring to the whole "this party vs that party" mentality. I mean, as an example and not to belittle your statement, you immediately thought of getting a house member from either party to run for Senator. Why? Why don't we actually let normal citizens run for these things instead of career politicians. Like the peoples House. A job that was meant to be held by normal Americans is now used as a JV squad for the Senate, something it was never meant to be thought of or meant to be.


I agree with you that it is farked up, but that is the system as we know it.
 
2013-03-10 11:19:01 AM

uncoveror: Mitch McConnell is legalized bribery's best friend in Washington. There should be a picture of him next to the word corruption in the dictionary. He and his ilk are turning America into a banana republic where bribery and graft are the only ways anything gets done. Ashley Judd by virtue of not being him has my vote.


You sure you're not talking about William Jefferson? Ol' Freezer Fulla Cash himself?
 
2013-03-10 11:25:23 AM

cman: From wikipedia:

They did not have children, with Judd telling the Sunday Mail, "It's unconscionable to breed, with the number of children who are starving to death in impoverished countries"

That is a big red flag for me.


That sounds a lot better than "My family is kinda farked up with a lot of issues, even if we do have some fame.  I'm afraid if I bring another one of us into the world, I'll have more of the same for the rest of my life".

Just wild speculation on my end, but it sounds more feasible to me than her official reason.
 
2013-03-10 11:26:38 AM

WTF Indeed: Like all celebrities, she'll get tired of daily grind that is running for high office and coupled with a legitimate primary challenger, she'll lose and/or drop out.


www.nndb.com

hey there!
 
2013-03-10 11:26:46 AM
Meanwhile in the sidebar:
i.huffpost.com
Selena Gomez Helped Dad Pick Up Hooters Waitresses

She's just gone into Anna Nicole Smith territory - can I fark you AND adopt you? And can you take care of the golddigger money part b/c you haz and I very don't?
 
2013-03-10 11:26:54 AM

jayphat: Does it ever bother anyone that, and I'll use this situation assuming she gets the nod and it's her and Mitch, this is the absolute best we can come up with? Of all the people in this state, these two are the most qualified to fulfil the job? No one else would, could, and should be doing a better job?

Am I the only person who is just straight out pissed at this system?


I'm going with nobody that is actually qualified wants to do it.  I'm sure there are plenty of smart people around KY that could do a fine job.  Look at what it means to be a high level politician these days.  Holy balls, Obama asks for spicy mustard on his burger and people go apeshiat.  Look at the shiat about Bush's daughters getting drunk in college, as if most of the people making the judgements and manufactured outrage didn't do it themselves, or as if their own children won't/didn't do the same thing in college. Anything you say, eat, whoever you meet with, etc will receive scorn and ridicule for at least the time you hold office, probably longer, and the same goes for your family.  F*ck that.

I think a lot of this is because of the myriad of 24hr "news" organizations simply needing to fill every second of airtime with something, so they make a big deal out of anything they can latch onto.
 
2013-03-10 11:28:00 AM

squibbits: sources say

Another piece of craptacuar journalism by Huffpost.


That most likely means that the Huffpo orks know who said it, but they can't tell you who said it.
Lighten up, Francis.
 
2013-03-10 11:29:15 AM
Ruby in Paradise.
 
2013-03-10 11:29:56 AM

WTF Indeed: Like all celebrities, she'll get tired of daily grind that is running for high office and coupled with a legitimate primary challenger, she'll lose and/or drop out.


i29.tinypic.com

this business will get out of control!
 
2013-03-10 11:35:34 AM

jayphat: Oldiron_79: jayphat: Does it ever bother anyone that, and I'll use this situation assuming she gets the nod and it's her and Mitch, this is the absolute best we can come up with? Of all the people in this state, these two are the most qualified to fulfil the job? No one else would, could, and should be doing a better job?

Am I the only person who is just straight out pissed at this system?

Well its hard to get a serious candidate from the "wrong party" (blue candidate in red state and vice versa) because if you are say a congressman or state rep from a "wrong party" district you are looking at giving up your house seat in order to maybe win put probably lose the senate seat.

And of course if you are the "right party" for your state its considered bad form to challenge the incumbent from your party unless there is some scandal thats likely to make him(or her) lose in the general election, and you will have the full weight of the party machine working against you and for the incumbent.

I guess I was referring to the whole "this party vs that party" mentality. I mean, as an example and not to belittle your statement, you immediately thought of getting a house member from either party to run for Senator. Why? Why don't we actually let normal citizens run for these things instead of career politicians. Like the peoples House. A job that was meant to be held by normal Americans is now used as a JV squad for the Senate, something it was never meant to be thought of or meant to be.


What's stopping you?
 
2013-03-10 11:38:36 AM

MFAWG: johnryan51: What did St. Reagan do before becoming prez?

He was the head of Hollywoods largest and most powerful union.


And he only got that gig because TPTB knew he'd cooperate with the alcoholic paranoid fascism of Joe McCarthy & HUAC in destroying the careers of people who were considered too liberal for America. I think the term they used for Reagan was "useful idiot".
 
2013-03-10 11:40:52 AM
Amazing the self-involvement of celebrities

/see AlGore
 
2013-03-10 11:41:07 AM

ThisSideofSteinway: jayphat: Oldiron_79: jayphat: Does it ever bother anyone that, and I'll use this situation assuming she gets the nod and it's her and Mitch, this is the absolute best we can come up with? Of all the people in this state, these two are the most qualified to fulfil the job? No one else would, could, and should be doing a better job?

Am I the only person who is just straight out pissed at this system?

Well its hard to get a serious candidate from the "wrong party" (blue candidate in red state and vice versa) because if you are say a congressman or state rep from a "wrong party" district you are looking at giving up your house seat in order to maybe win put probably lose the senate seat.

And of course if you are the "right party" for your state its considered bad form to challenge the incumbent from your party unless there is some scandal thats likely to make him(or her) lose in the general election, and you will have the full weight of the party machine working against you and for the incumbent.

I guess I was referring to the whole "this party vs that party" mentality. I mean, as an example and not to belittle your statement, you immediately thought of getting a house member from either party to run for Senator. Why? Why don't we actually let normal citizens run for these things instead of career politicians. Like the peoples House. A job that was meant to be held by normal Americans is now used as a JV squad for the Senate, something it was never meant to be thought of or meant to be.

What's stopping you?


In all honesty, my wife.
 
2013-03-10 11:49:23 AM
Anybody (also, nobody in the sense of a vacated seat) is better than Mitch Mcconnell. He said that all he was going to do was try to keep Obama from getting reelected.

Sorry, Mitch, that's not your job. I don't care who the president is, your job is representing your state in legislative matters. You don't belong in Congress if that's your take on things.
 
2013-03-10 11:51:14 AM

cman: From wikipedia:

They did not have children, with Judd telling the Sunday Mail, "It's unconscionable to breed, with the number of children who are starving to death in impoverished countries"

That is a big red flag for me.

Humans are selfish. They are supposed to care only for themselves and those who are closely related. This is evolutionary warfare; our genes matter more than the next persons.

Pure altruism does not befit our species because in survival of the fittest we fight to pass our genes along. If she does not think that her genes deserve more of a chance than others, well, thats just not humanity.

I am unsure if I can explain this without looking like a total douche. I guess the most basic thing to say is that "Normal healthy people do not act that way". Is there some underlying psychological condition that she has that she excuses by saying that?


Or it could be an underlying medical problem.  Like a broken bajingo, or what have you.  Sprained volvo.
I also forgot to have offspring, or women find me resistible, and often say the same thing; there really are too many rugrats on this rock.
Also, Kentuckian... I can say that.
 
2013-03-10 11:56:41 AM
Go Ashley! Your neighbors to the north would love to look south and say "are they really that stupid?".

/Michigan does it too
//So does Canada
 
2013-03-10 12:00:45 PM

Rusty Shackleford: As a Canadian who spent last weekend in Kentucky, I'm getting a kick, etc.
One question remains: every little town we drove through had a nice old town square, with nothing but 20 or so lawyers' offices in it. WTF?


These towns are spread out in more rural areas with one per County, and known as the County Seat

They all shut down around 5pm and many have no other services available other than legal and government-related ones.
The County Seat is the operations center of the county government, here one will find the county courthouse, sheriff's office, jail, clerks office, tax offices, health department and usually an office of the state police.
So that might explain all the lawyers.
 
2013-03-10 12:02:16 PM

shotglasss: Have no fear, Kentucky. Ashley Judd is so dumb that she makes Maxine Waters look like Einstein. She's going to get destroyed in the primary by a ham sammich and go back to Hollywood to cry on The View about how mean those rednecks are and then publish a book about how women are being held back.


Google is that friend you have who will keep you from saying stupid shiat.

From the Wiki

Judd received a MPA from the JFK School of Government from Harvard in 2010
 
2013-03-10 12:06:07 PM

PornStarStuntDouble: shotglasss: Have no fear, Kentucky. Ashley Judd is so dumb that she makes Maxine Waters look like Einstein. She's going to get destroyed in the primary by a ham sammich and go back to Hollywood to cry on The View about how mean those rednecks are and then publish a book about how women are being held back.

Google is that friend you have who will keep you from saying stupid shiat.

From the Wiki

Judd received a MPA from the JFK School of Government from Harvard in 2010


I know some very stupid people who have advanced educations. It means nothing, and Ashley Judd is still stupid.
 
2013-03-10 12:12:30 PM

NaziKamikaze: Anybody (also, nobody in the sense of a vacated seat) is better than Mitch Mcconnell. He said that all he was going to do was try to keep Obama from getting reelected.

Sorry, Mitch, that's not your job. I don't care who the president is, your job is representing your state in legislative matters. You don't belong in Congress if that's your take on things.


mitch does very well at representing Kentucky in legislative matters, and really, trying to keep Obama out of office was a Priority for Kentucky as it could greatly affect coal.
 
2013-03-10 12:13:01 PM

cman: From wikipedia:

They did not have children, with Judd telling the Sunday Mail, "It's unconscionable to breed, with the number of children who are starving to death in impoverished countries"

That is a big red flag for me.

Humans are selfish. They are supposed to care only for themselves and those who are closely related. This is evolutionary warfare; our genes matter more than the next persons.

Pure altruism does not befit our species because in survival of the fittest we fight to pass our genes along. If she does not think that her genes deserve more of a chance than others, well, thats just not humanity.

I am unsure if I can explain this without looking like a total douche. I guess the most basic thing to say is that "Normal healthy people do not act that way". Is there some underlying psychological condition that she has that she excuses by saying that?


Yeah, it's called "I don't like / want kids but if I don't make up a socially acceptable reason people will call me a dy*e."

I can understand someone not wanting kids, but society at large doesn't. There's your human selfishness, and it's easy to understand.
 
2013-03-10 12:15:43 PM

shotglasss: PornStarStuntDouble: shotglasss: Have no fear, Kentucky. Ashley Judd is so dumb that she makes Maxine Waters look like Einstein. She's going to get destroyed in the primary by a ham sammich and go back to Hollywood to cry on The View about how mean those rednecks are and then publish a book about how women are being held back.

Google is that friend you have who will keep you from saying stupid shiat.

From the Wiki

Judd received a MPA from the JFK School of Government from Harvard in 2010

I know some very stupid people who have advanced educations. It means nothing, and Ashley Judd is still stupid.


I grant that she'll probably lose to McConnell, but even that is no forgone conclusion. After all, she'll enjoy running on Hillary's coattails, which will give her a measurable boost even in Kentucky. Besides, never underestimate a conservative Republican's ability to insert foot into mouth and bite down firmly.

But the real reason I want to see her run is to force Turtleface have to run hard just to retain his seat, instead of the foregone conclusion when he runs against some unknown patsy. In fact, I'd like to see the Dems put famous, accomplished candidates up against EVERY GOP Senator and Rep to force them to run hard on their actual platform. You know, the one that is bought and sold by the uberwealthy and that distains the common citizen.
 
2013-03-10 12:17:55 PM

PornStarStuntDouble: shotglasss: Have no fear, Kentucky. Ashley Judd is so dumb that she makes Maxine Waters look like Einstein. She's going to get destroyed in the primary by a ham sammich and go back to Hollywood to cry on The View about how mean those rednecks are and then publish a book about how women are being held back.

Google is that friend you have who will keep you from saying stupid shiat.

From the Wiki

Judd received a MPA from the JFK School of Government from Harvard in 2010


Doesn't count - everyone knows an MPA from Harvard's JFK School of Government is the new high school diploma.

/Not that shotglasss knows what either of those are.
 
2013-03-10 12:24:07 PM

Stone Meadow: After all, she'll enjoy running on Hillary's coattails, which will give her a measurable boost even in Kentucky.


Umm... what's Hillary running for in 2014?
 
2013-03-10 12:24:20 PM
This will be interesting....her MOM is a big conservative.  Her daughter is a big lib.
Now the age old question can be answered.
Is BLOOD thicker than WATER.
 
2013-03-10 12:24:36 PM

Oldiron_79: WTF Indeed: Like all celebrities, she'll get tired of daily grind that is running for high office and coupled with a legitimate primary challenger, she'll lose and/or drop out.

Well seeing that KY is a solidly red state, and she is planning on running as a Dem, there is a perfectly good chance that she won't have a serious (like dem house member or state leg member) candidate  opposing her in the primary and she'ss actually end up against whomever the Republican is int he general election.


Actually, we're not a solid red state.   Louisville, Frankfort, and Lexington all went for Obama last election.  It just isn't enough people to override the inbred tards out in the mountains.
 
2013-03-10 12:25:27 PM
McConnell only got 53% in 2008.
 
2013-03-10 12:30:17 PM

skantea: Also, sometimes she says she was raped three times, and other times just twice.


maybe she just likes rape
 
2013-03-10 12:31:48 PM

Rusty Shackleford: One question remains: every little town we drove through had a nice old town square, with nothing but 20 or so lawyers' offices in it. WTF?


lots of guns
lots of liquor
lots of need to split up property/assess damages/prosecute/defend in the aftermath
 
2013-03-10 12:35:21 PM

semiotix: Stone Meadow: After all, she'll enjoy running on Hillary's coattails, which will give her a measurable boost even in Kentucky.

Umm... what's Hillary running for in 2014?


For POTUS in '16. You know this...don't be obtuse. ;^)
 
2013-03-10 12:35:25 PM
Based on this thread, it looks like we're near or past peak Judd already.
 
2013-03-10 12:38:05 PM

cman: max_pooper: cman: I believe that "Kentuckian" is the proper nomenclature

Hill Billy is also acceptable

Way to show your bigotry


That's what we call ourselves, but please help us some more, Yankee.
 
2013-03-10 12:38:41 PM

king_nacho: NaziKamikaze: Anybody (also, nobody in the sense of a vacated seat) is better than Mitch Mcconnell. He said that all he was going to do was try to keep Obama from getting reelected.

Sorry, Mitch, that's not your job. I don't care who the president is, your job is representing your state in legislative matters. You don't belong in Congress if that's your take on things.

mitch does very well at representing Kentucky in legislative matters, and really, trying to keep Obama out of office was a Priority for Kentucky as it could greatly affect coal.


No he doesn't, he blocks bills that would create jobs, votes against laws that help protect women, and is costing us a lot of military jobs.

Trying to keep Obama out of office is nowhere near a priority for Kentucky...at all.   And coal isn't some sacred cow, it is a rock that burns, but doesn't burn cleanly and it is incredibly messy to get to.  We're a beautiful state and coal mining is costing us some truly beautiful areas.

so fark you.
 
2013-03-10 12:43:32 PM

Seth'n'Spectrum: Based on this thread, it looks like we're near or past peak Judd already.


We're nowhere near "peak Judd"...

Could've used a few pounds
Tight pants points hardly reknown
She was a black haired beauty with big dark eyes
And points all her own sitting way up high
Way up firm and high


Thank you Bob... ;^)
 
2013-03-10 12:44:15 PM
Actually, Thompson would be a good template for Judd, if she does win the primary. The first half of his campaign emphasized his Watergate and Hollywood credentials, and it foundered. He turned the campaign around by driving a beat up red truck around the state and talking to townhall meetings in every little town he could find.

Judd seems to have to tendency to talk down to people. Folks tend to hate that, regardless of politics.
 
2013-03-10 12:59:59 PM

king_nacho: NaziKamikaze: Anybody (also, nobody in the sense of a vacated seat) is better than Mitch Mcconnell. He said that all he was going to do was try to keep Obama from getting reelected.

Sorry, Mitch, that's not your job. I don't care who the president is, your job is representing your state in legislative matters. You don't belong in Congress if that's your take on things.

mitch does very well at representing Kentucky in legislative matters, and really, trying to keep Obama out of office was a Priority for Kentucky as it could greatly affect coal.


You don't know what you're talking about, do you?

He doesn't seem to do anything except drag his feet and make dumb statements, and coal is not key as people have argued (for the express purpose of getting people riled up over Obama, who isn't trying to completely rid us of coal).
 
2013-03-10 01:03:23 PM

Girion47: king_nacho: NaziKamikaze: .

Trying to keep Obama out of office is nowhere near a priority for Kentucky...at all.   And coal isn't some sacred cow, it is a rock that burns, but doesn't burn cleanly and it is incredibly messy to get to.  We're a beautiful state and coal mining is costing us some truly beautiful areas.


What do you mean "us"? You an inbred tard out of the mountains?
 
2013-03-10 01:12:55 PM

proteus_b: Rusty Shackleford: One question remains: every little town we drove through had a nice old town square, with nothing but 20 or so lawyers' offices in it. WTF?

lots of guns
lots of liquor
lots of need to split up property/assess damages/prosecute/defend in the aftermath


Ah...this (and the County seat thing) makes sense. Especially after sampling some of the excellent bourbon-finished beers (one of which was something like 10.5%).

I visited the General George Patton Museum at Fort Knox, only to find many of the galleries closed for refurbishing.

I slapped the curator and called him a "yellow-bellied son of a biatch."
 
2013-03-10 01:17:34 PM
As a resident of the "Kentuckiana" area on the Indiana side of the river, I say bring it on. This could be the best entertainment we'll see around these parts in some time.
 
2013-03-10 01:20:07 PM

cman: Is there some underlying psychological condition that she has that she excuses by saying that?



It's the worst disease of all, "I don't want/can't have kids".

I'm 30, have no SO or children, and want neither. But when the subject comes up in conversation, even among hard-core fundamentalists, telling them that I'm gay almost always has a better reaction than telling the truth.

/Still have scars from the time I told the truth to my aunt, when she demanded to know why I refused a surprise date from her daughter
 
2013-03-10 01:22:58 PM

shotglasss: PornStarStuntDouble: shotglasss: Have no fear, Kentucky. Ashley Judd is so dumb that she makes Maxine Waters look like Einstein. She's going to get destroyed in the primary by a ham sammich and go back to Hollywood to cry on The View about how mean those rednecks are and then publish a book about how women are being held back.

Google is that friend you have who will keep you from saying stupid shiat.

From the Wiki

Judd received a MPA from the JFK School of Government from Harvard in 2010

I know some very stupid people who have advanced educations. It means nothing, and Ashley Judd is still stupid.


An educated idiot is still an idiot. Sort of like gold-plating a turd.
 
2013-03-10 01:26:20 PM

Rusty Shackleford: Ah...this (and the County seat thing) makes sense. Especially after sampling some of the excellent bourbon-finished beers (one of which was something like 10.5%).


Kentucky's counties are very small compared to most other states so almost every significant town has the courthouse and lawyers offices and most of the food and shopping is on the edge of town in the form of Wally Worlds or worse and strip malls and drive thrus.
 
2013-03-10 01:36:05 PM

Stone Meadow: shotglasss: PornStarStuntDouble: shotglasss: Have no fear, Kentucky. Ashley Judd is so dumb that she makes Maxine Waters look like Einstein. She's going to get destroyed in the primary by a ham sammich and go back to Hollywood to cry on The View about how mean those rednecks are and then publish a book about how women are being held back.

Google is that friend you have who will keep you from saying stupid shiat.

From the Wiki

Judd received a MPA from the JFK School of Government from Harvard in 2010

I know some very stupid people who have advanced educations. It means nothing, and Ashley Judd is still stupid.

I grant that she'll probably lose to McConnell, but even that is no forgone conclusion. After all, she'll enjoy running on Hillary's coattails, which will give her a measurable boost even in Kentucky. Besides, never underestimate a conservative Republican's ability to insert foot into mouth and bite down firmly.

But the real reason I want to see her run is to force Turtleface have to run hard just to retain his seat, instead of the foregone conclusion when he runs against some unknown patsy. In fact, I'd like to see the Dems put famous, accomplished candidates up against EVERY GOP Senator and Rep to force them to run hard on their actual platform. You know, the one that is bought and sold by the uberwealthy and that distains the common citizen.


I'll be surprised if she makes it past the primary if there's an experienced Democrat against her.

Hillary's coattails. Really? After her 'It doesn't matter that they died' comment regarding her employees in State? You assume the people in KY are really stupid and don't care about their country. I assure you that you are wrong on that account.

Can't argue with you about the foot in mouth ability of establishment Republicans, it's legendary.

You act like there are no rich Democrats. Hollywood is full of millionaire and multi-millionaire liberals that can't wait to give maximum amounts to liberals. Ashley Judd is herself one of those multi-millionaire liberals who has no experience in politics other than saying that Obama is God to her. That won't play well in KY and the ad Rove put together is going to get a lot of play when she makes if official.
 
2013-03-10 02:10:13 PM
I think she'll win.  Especially if some tea-tard beats McConnell in the primary.  You just know that they're going to say some asinine Todd Aiken-type ish.  They'll underestimate her because she's a beautiful woman, and then their attacks will look worse for the same reason.

Her star power will excite the base and help with turnout.  If she can run up the score in Lexington and Louisville, and grab a good chunk of rural women... so long, turtle boy.
 
2013-03-10 02:12:59 PM
Hill Billy is also acceptable

And much more accurate.  It ain't bigotry when it's true.
 
2013-03-10 02:16:54 PM

the ha ha guy: cman: Is there some underlying psychological condition that she has that she excuses by saying that?


It's the worst disease of all, "I don't want/can't have kids".

I'm 30, have no SO or children, and want neither. But when the subject comes up in conversation, even among hard-core fundamentalists, telling them that I'm gay almost always has a better reaction than telling the truth.

/Still have scars from the time I told the truth to my aunt, when she demanded to know why I refused a surprise date from her daughter


Aunt....surprise date....daughter. are you from Kentucky?
 
2013-03-10 02:17:55 PM

Now That's What I Call a Taco!: I think she'll win.  Especially if some tea-tard beats McConnell in the primary.  You just know that they're going to say some asinine Todd Aiken-type ish.  They'll underestimate her because she's a beautiful woman, and then their attacks will look worse for the same reason.

Her star power will excite the base and help with turnout.  If she can run up the score in Lexington and Louisville, and grab a good chunk of rural women... so long, turtle boy.


I don't know if she'll win, but she'll certainly district McConnell as far as both time *and* money go at the very least.  It's gonna be harder to help local  and out of state candidates if you have this instant national media attention opponent at home.
 
2013-03-10 02:24:38 PM

shotglasss: I'll be surprised if she makes it past the primary if there's an experienced Democrat against her.


Okay, prepare to be surprised. If she DOES run...which is not official yet...she will have lots of help, and I do not underestimate her chances.

Hillary's coattails. Really? After her 'It doesn't matter that they died' comment regarding her employees in State? You assume the people in KY are really stupid and don't care about their country. I assure you that you are wrong on that account.

I make no such assumptions about KY. I'm saying she will give McConnell the fight of his life if she runs. Do you concede the point or not.

You act like there are no rich Democrats. Hollywood is full of millionaire and multi-millionaire liberals that can't wait to give maximum amounts to liberals. ...


Where do I act that way? And were you not paying attention last year when Adelson, the Koch Bros, et al were pouring tens to hundreds of millions into local and national races to further their oligarchic agendas?
 
2013-03-10 02:24:42 PM

Now That's What I Call a Taco!: I think she'll win.  Especially if some tea-tard beats McConnell in the primary.  You just know that they're going to say some asinine Todd Aiken-type ish.  They'll underestimate her because she's a beautiful woman, and then their attacks will look worse for the same reason.

Her star power will excite the base and help with turnout.  If she can run up the score in Lexington and Louisville, and grab a good chunk of rural women... so long, turtle boy.


I think she'll win for the simple reason that the majority of this country is uber-fascinated with celebrities/entertainers - to an unhealthy degree I might add.
 
2013-03-10 02:32:27 PM

jayphat: Does it ever bother anyone that, and I'll use this situation assuming she gets the nod and it's her and Mitch, this is the absolute best we can come up with? Of all the people in this state, these two are the most qualified to fulfil the job? No one else would, could, and should be doing a better job?

Am I the only person who is just straight out pissed at this system?



People who are actually qualified for the position, and likely to do a commendable job as a legislator or chief executive aren't willing to put up with all the shiat that goes along with getting elected, i.e. having the media crawl up your ass with a microscope.
 
2013-03-10 02:32:38 PM

Stone Meadow: semiotix: Stone Meadow: After all, she'll enjoy running on Hillary's coattails, which will give her a measurable boost even in Kentucky.

Umm... what's Hillary running for in 2014?

For POTUS in '16. You know this...don't be obtuse. ;^)



i183.photobucket.com

No, but seriously, coattails do not work that way.

i0.kym-cdn.com
 
2013-03-10 02:38:53 PM

semiotix: No, but seriously, coattails do not work that way.


Sure they do. Don't be such a literalist. Hillary is going to go into campaign mode later this year, and by next year she will have formally declared and be whistle-stopping the country, helping every Democrat she can link up with, including Judd is she runs. Ergo, Judd will benefit from Hillary's campaign.
 
2013-03-10 02:46:15 PM

shotglasss: Hillary's coattails. Really? After her 'It doesn't matter that they died' comment regarding her employees in State? You assume the people in KY are really stupid and don't care about their country. I assure you that you are wrong on that account.


I can't believe this farktard is still trying to make an issue out Benghazi.
 
2013-03-10 03:16:22 PM

Stone Meadow: Sure they do. Don't be such a literalist. Hillary is going to go into campaign mode later this year, and by next year she will have formally declared and be whistle-stopping the country, helping every Democrat she can link up with, including Judd is she runs. Ergo, Judd will benefit from Hillary's campaign.


Well... yeah, but to measure that kind of influence you'd need a micrometer and an alternate universe control group. Another thing that will affect the outcome is the relative humidity on Election Day. Somewhere out there is a DCCC memo on how Democrats outperform Republicans when it's muggy, or some such thing.

Basically, what you're describing is the fact that campaigns do not take place in a vacuum, not coattails.

I mean, yeah, Hillary Clinton exists in the world, and influences voting by virtue of that existence. For example, she's made an appearance in every fundraising letter that the right wing has sent out in the last twenty years. If she stumps with Judd, you can be damn sure that footage of it will find its way, in scary grainy black-and-white form, into a McConnell negative ad. Which way does that swing the vote, all told? What about the 90 other things that happened that week? What about next week's rubber chicken dinner, when she appears at a dais with Joe Biden, or any of the other people sniffing around the Democratic presidential nomination? They all have an effect.

Coattails happen when people turn out to vote for one candidate--almost always a presidential candidate--and then as an afterthought, vote for all the other members of that party. They were always theoretically in favor of those guys being elected; they just couldn't be bothered to show up in an off-year election. Voters like to chase winners, so if (for example) a Democrat is beating up on his Republican presidential opponent, you can get a surge of Dem voters in red states. They don't win the electoral votes, but they can upset downticket races.

I'd be thrilled if Judd, or for that matter any Democrat, beat McConnell in 2014. But there's absolutely no reason to think that a hypothetical appearance or two with an as-yet-undeclared Hillary Clinton is going to make any measurable difference in and of itself. That ain't coattails!
 
2013-03-10 03:24:01 PM
121 posts, and I'm the first one to point at laugh at subby for using the wrong demonym.

Fark, and Kentuckians, I am disappoint.
 
2013-03-10 03:26:55 PM

LibertyHiller: 121 posts, and I'm the first one to point at laugh at subby for using the wrong demonym.

Fark, and Kentuckians, I am disappoint.



It was two posts.
 
2013-03-10 03:35:20 PM

semiotix: I'd be thrilled if Judd, or for that matter any Democrat, beat McConnell in 2014. But there's absolutely no reason to think that a hypothetical appearance or two with an as-yet-undeclared Hillary Clinton is going to make any measurable difference in and of itself. That ain't coattails!


Just stop, okay?
 
2013-03-10 03:38:05 PM

cman: From wikipedia:

They did not have children, with Judd telling the Sunday Mail, "It's unconscionable to breed, with the number of children who are starving to death in impoverished countries"

That is a big red flag for me.

Humans are selfish. They are supposed to care only for themselves and those who are closely related. This is evolutionary warfare; our genes matter more than the next persons.

Pure altruism does not befit our species because in survival of the fittest we fight to pass our genes along. If she does not think that her genes deserve more of a chance than others, well, thats just not humanity.

I am unsure if I can explain this without looking like a total douche. I guess the most basic thing to say is that "Normal healthy people do not act that way". Is there some underlying psychological condition that she has that she excuses by saying that?


Look up the prisoner's dilemma and recent models for it. Turns out, self-sacrifice IS a gene and it actually will crowd out selfishness over time due to the fact that individuals that cooperate are more likely to prosper than one selfish individual.
 
2013-03-10 03:39:25 PM
www.dphoto.us

mmmm. nice judds.
 
2013-03-10 03:39:46 PM
Twizzle, twazzle, twozzle, twome; time for this one to come home

images.politico.com
 
2013-03-10 03:43:44 PM

Stone Meadow: semiotix: I'd be thrilled if Judd, or for that matter any Democrat, beat McConnell in 2014. But there's absolutely no reason to think that a hypothetical appearance or two with an as-yet-undeclared Hillary Clinton is going to make any measurable difference in and of itself. That ain't coattails!

Just stop, okay?


Okay. You win this internet argument.
 
2013-03-10 03:53:52 PM

You Idiots: Bipolar eh? Never put your vote in crazy.


Someone should have told that to the people who voted for Churchill and Teddy Roosevelt--both were bipolar. Lincoln is also thought to have had it, as are Plato and Isaac Newton.

Buzz Aldrin is also bipolar and so are a whole bunch of other people you may have heard of once or twice, such as Sting, Jimi Hendrix, Peter Gabriel (yep, fairly common in artistic folks). Lots of studies indicate that, properly controlled with medication (or even without--Google it and you'll see names such as Mozart, Van Gogh, Poe, Hendrix...), bipolar folks are some of the best in their respective fields.

We've had three members of Congress--two Representatives and one Senator (who very nearly was on the ticket as VP)--who have served with bipolar disorder already. It seems to me that it's perfectly reasonable that Congress should be a representation of our nation's populace--including the population in our country who manage to live day in, day out medically managing their illness just fine by following their doctors' orders and taking their medication.

It also seems to me that you have the single most appropriate handle on Fark.
 
2013-03-10 04:12:37 PM

shotglasss: Have no fear, Kentucky. Ashley Judd is so dumb that she makes Maxine Waters look like Einstein. She's going to get destroyed in the primary by a ham sammich and go back to Hollywood to cry on The View about how mean those rednecks are and then publish a book about how women are being held back.


Not sure if trolling...?

The woman is a Phi Beta Kappa from her time at Kentucky and got her Masters from Harvard (supposedly one of the most competitive schools--even for Masters programs--in the US). She may lose to McConnell, but it certainly won't be due to lack of intelligence. She's smarter than I am or ever was (pre-brain injury, I had an IQ in the 155-165 range), and from what I can see from your post, definitely smarter than you are.
 
2013-03-10 04:20:07 PM
blog.zap2it.com

Really...this deep in the thread and  get him?
 
2013-03-10 04:22:07 PM

Branniganslaw: Peter von Nostrand: cman: max_pooper: cman: I believe that "Kentuckian" is the proper nomenclature

Hill Billy is also acceptable

Way to show your bigotry

Won't someone think of the honkies... er, white people?

Crackers, get it right


Would you accept honky ass cracka?
 
2013-03-10 04:50:37 PM
I'm waiting for some right-wing-nut to scream "she showed here womanly bits on film! She's a whore!"

It'll be fun...
 
2013-03-10 05:39:02 PM
Judd told one close ally that she plans to announce her run for the Democratic nomination for the 2014 race "around Derby"

Nice touch.
 
2013-03-10 06:20:34 PM
I hope Judd goes for it and wins, but I doubt she will beat McConnell. This is the same state that elected RAND PAUL and Bunning.
 
2013-03-10 06:26:40 PM

jerem43: I'm waiting for some right-wing-nut to scream "she showed here womanly bits on film! She's a whore!"

It'll be fun...


Yeah, about that.

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/03/04/chickenst-republicans-slut-s ha ming-ashley-judd-for-nude-scenes/
 
2013-03-10 06:45:17 PM
Still going...
 
2013-03-10 06:46:21 PM

Bane of Broone: Still going...


403'd. It was Alan Autry.
 
2013-03-10 07:32:45 PM
All those hot pictures of her, but none of her rubbing up against some Dick... until now....and look at that big grin on her face.

upload.wikimedia.org

/Oh yeah, Luger'd
 
2013-03-10 07:51:38 PM

cman: From wikipedia:

They did not have children, with Judd telling the Sunday Mail, "It's unconscionable to breed, with the number of children who are starving to death in impoverished countries"

That is a big red flag for me.

Humans are selfish. They are supposed to care only for themselves and those who are closely related. This is evolutionary warfare; our genes matter more than the next persons.

Pure altruism does not befit our species because in survival of the fittest we fight to pass our genes along. If she does not think that her genes deserve more of a chance than others, well, thats just not humanity.

I am unsure if I can explain this without looking like a total douche. I guess the most basic thing to say is that "Normal healthy people do not act that way". Is there some underlying psychological condition that she has that she excuses by saying that?


Judd proves evolutionism. McConnell should go with that.
 
2013-03-10 08:33:19 PM

jayphat: Does it ever bother anyone that, and I'll use this situation assuming she gets the nod and it's her and Mitch, this is the absolute best we can come up with? Of all the people in this state, these two are the most qualified to fulfil the job? No one else would, could, and should be doing a better job?

Am I the only person who is just straight out pissed at this system?


In terms of qualifications, Ashley Judd actually has a Master of Public Administration degree.  It's not like she has nothing but name recognition, she's well known to be outspoken on many political issues relevant to Kentucky such as mountaintop removal coal mining, and has a graduate degree in being a public administrator/leader.

Certainly more credentials than Rand Paul got when he was elected from the state mostly on the recognition of his fathers name and the magnitude of his Derp.
 
2013-03-10 09:15:47 PM

Silverstaff: jayphat: Does it ever bother anyone that, and I'll use this situation assuming she gets the nod and it's her and Mitch, this is the absolute best we can come up with? Of all the people in this state, these two are the most qualified to fulfil the job? No one else would, could, and should be doing a better job?

Am I the only person who is just straight out pissed at this system?

In terms of qualifications, Ashley Judd actually has a Master of Public Administration degree.  It's not like she has nothing but name recognition, she's well known to be outspoken on many political issues relevant to Kentucky such as mountaintop removal coal mining, and has a graduate degree in being a public administrator/leader.

Certainly more credentials than Rand Paul got when he was elected from the state mostly on the recognition of his fathers name and the magnitude of his Derp.


I will 100% give you the deep on Paul and his father's name. His filibuster has SOME legitimate concerns about drones but he took it WAY off the deep end with some of it.
 
2013-03-10 10:37:02 PM

jayphat: I will 100% give you the deep on Paul and his father's name. His filibuster has SOME legitimate concerns about drones but he took it WAY off the deep end with some of it.


Not to mention not word one on repealing the 2001 AUMF which gives the broad authority to under certain extraordinary circumstances yadda-yadda-yadda in the first goddamn place. As long as Paul fails to use that as step freakin' one in any anti-drone rhetoric, it's nothing in as far as I'm concerned but cheap political theater and exceedingly stupid concern trolling.
 
2013-03-11 02:37:27 AM
Came for pictures of Ensign Lefler.  Leaving disappointed.

/would vote for Wheaton too.
 
2013-03-11 06:25:32 AM

Aigoo: The woman is a Phi Beta Kappa from her time at Kentucky and got her Masters from Harvard (supposedly one of the most competitive schools--even for Masters programs--in the US). She may lose to McConnell, but it certainly won't be due to lack of intelligence. She's smarter than I am or ever was (pre-brain injury, I had an IQ in the 155-165 range), and from what I can see from your post, definitely smarter than you are.


My IQ is in the 270-270.001 range and I have to agree wholeheartedly that Judd is far smarter than I am---even before I had the penis reduction which took me down to 12 inches. While I'll never regret my service as a top CIA agent or the countless lives I saved in serving the poor villagers of Itzn Spable as a country doctor, I do wonder some times if I may have made better use of my intelligence as a whining ninnie who inherited wealth and used it to perpetuate a whining, ninnying existence.
 
2013-03-11 10:19:29 AM

max_pooper: cman: I believe that "Kentuckian" is the proper nomenclature

Hill Billy is also acceptable


It's "Appalachian American."
 
2013-03-11 11:12:57 AM

wellreadneck: Oldiron_79: Tennessee: At least we ain't Kentucky.

Kentucky: At least we never lynched an elephant.


i0.kym-cdn.com
 
2013-03-11 11:17:36 AM
Oh, and also:

WTF Indeed: Like all celebrities, she'll get tired of daily grind that is running for high office and coupled with a legitimate primary challenger, she'll lose and/or drop out.


fantasysportscheats.com
 
2013-03-11 02:00:56 PM

12349876: Rusty Shackleford: Ah...this (and the County seat thing) makes sense. Especially after sampling some of the excellent bourbon-finished beers (one of which was something like 10.5%).

Kentucky's counties are very small compared to most other states so almost every significant town has the courthouse and lawyers offices and most of the food and shopping is on the edge of town in the form of Wally Worlds or worse and strip malls and drive thrus.


To understand why Kentucky has such small counties, realize that these county lines were generally established around 200 years ago.  Kentucky became a state in 1792, and quickly divided up into the 120 counties it has today.

The idea was that before the advent of the automobile, and before the expansive road system established in the early/mid 20th century, it was hard to get from place to place.  The mountainous terrain of eastern Kentucky certainly did not help with this either.

The counties are small enough that in theory any resident could travel on horseback to their county seat, conduct essential business, then ride back home on horseback and arrive back late in the same day.  This has lead to the 120 small counties in the Commonwealth.

Thus, each county seat has all the essential government functions a local person would need.  Courts are there, as is the Sheriff's Office and jail, clerks offices for driver's licenses and car registration, as well as assessing and paying property taxes are all done at the county seat.  Lawyers will be there because of this.

While there have been calls to consolidate to larger counties, there are numerous problems with that and the calls seldom get any political support.  No such proposal has ever been successful.

1. School districts are generally divided up along county lines.  It works pretty well that way.  Consolidated counties would complicate the affair.  Some larger cities have independent school districts that work separately from county schools, but these are on a case-by-case basis.

2. Law enforcement jurisdictions also generally fall along county lines (i.e. Sheriff's Department & Constables Office).  The smaller counties let law enforcement officers have less area to cover.

3. People in Kentucky can be very particular about their home county.  Note that license plates in Kentucky state which county a vehicle is registered in.  Many people will ask what county somebody comes from as a "getting to know you" icebreaker.  Inter-county sports rivalries (i.e. fought between High School sports teams, again with the school districts) are fairly common.
 
2013-03-12 12:25:18 AM

Silverstaff: realize that these county lines were generally established around 200 years ago. Kentucky became a state in 1792, and quickly divided up into the 120 counties it has today.


30 weren't created until 50+ years after Kentucky became a state.
 
2013-03-12 06:13:43 PM

12349876: Silverstaff: realize that these county lines were generally established around 200 years ago. Kentucky became a state in 1792, and quickly divided up into the 120 counties it has today.

30 weren't created until 50+ years after Kentucky became a state.


Still in the horse-drawn era, so the whole "get to your county seat in one day by horse" idea still applies, and with 120 counties, that means 75% of them were created in the first few decades of the Commonwealth.
 
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