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2013-03-09 05:29:14 PM  
Ouch.
 
2013-03-09 05:44:46 PM  
That looked like it might have hurt.

/don't climb solo
 
2013-03-09 05:59:29 PM  
well POV porn IS the best KIND
 
2013-03-09 06:00:22 PM  
That looked like it hurt....a lot. Also a fine argument for why you should practice arresting techniques before you're several hundred feet up a steep slope made of ice.
 
2013-03-09 06:44:10 PM  
Besides being lucky if there's anything in his arms legs and ribs not broken, he's going to be reliving that in his dreams for a long time.
 
2013-03-09 09:48:27 PM  
All I could think is, fark it's going to be a lot work to climb back up again.
 
2013-03-09 10:04:24 PM  
My ass hurts just watching that thing...
 
2013-03-09 10:11:28 PM  
I'm guessing those weren't the soft, fluffy kind of rocks he was banging into.
 
2013-03-09 10:11:34 PM  

whither_apophis: /don't climb solo


Looks like there was a climber ahead of him that knocked a chunk of ice loose. The guy tried to block it with his left hand and lost his grip and down he went.
 
2013-03-09 10:23:59 PM  

Elzar: My ass hurts just watching that thing...


Every single thing that guy did was wrong, but leading with his crampons probably broke his ankles, then again they never did catch enough to start him cartwheeling so who knows. But I'm pretty sure his legs were hurting a lot by the time he stopped
 
2013-03-09 10:27:12 PM  
So....what should we do if we're in that situation Farksperts?
 
2013-03-09 10:27:27 PM  

Elzar: My ass hurts just watching that thing...


Just wait until he wakes up the next morning. He's gonna be one huge bruise covering one gigantic ache.
 
2013-03-09 10:38:52 PM  
Don't worry.  The pterodactyl will pick him up and take him back to the top.

img.brothersoft.com

/ouch.
 
2013-03-09 10:59:53 PM  
D'oh . . . D'oh . . . D'oh . . . D'oh . . . D'oh . . . D'oh . . . D'oh . . .
 
2013-03-09 11:00:57 PM  
Great luge ride dude.
 
2013-03-09 11:02:08 PM  

marius2: So....what should we do if we're in that situation Farksperts?


Putting his hand up to try and stop a block of ice was mistake number 1, even if he does deflect it he has a broken hand and is still knocked off, shoulda just leaned in and prayed.

After that he was already in the correct position to stop a fall, instead of the wild right handed swing he should have brought the axe down and leaned into it hard (and again prayed). Beyond that he was farked and was moving to fast to do much but staying on his chest and getting his crampons and feet up, and keeping pressure on the axe to try and stop was his best bet
 
2013-03-09 11:02:09 PM  
when that rock looms about halfway down I figured it was the end for him.
 
2013-03-09 11:04:27 PM  
When did they open Action Park back up again?  I swear that was a ride there.
 
2013-03-09 11:04:34 PM  
Voiceofreason01

That looked like it hurt....a lot. Also a fine argument for why you should practice arresting techniques before you're several hundred feet up a steep slope made of ice.

   There is no self arrest on steep ice with a technical ice tool. Self arrest applies to a slope you can walk on and a piolet.

marius2So....what should we do if we're in that situation Farksperts?

    Don't simul solo in the line of fire. Don't climb under another party. Falling ice? Turtle under your pack. Sink your tools with solid sticks. etc.

Leading with gear on ice as well as soloing are no fall games, you do everything within the power of your being not to fall.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/db7090a153e0f6cb0bc6cf556ecac818/tumblr_m ii 9ezrfGp1rsy34co1_500.gif
 
2013-03-09 11:56:22 PM  

CruiserTwelve: whither_apophis: /don't climb solo

Looks like there was a climber ahead of him that knocked a chunk of ice loose. The guy tried to block it with his left hand and lost his grip and down he went.


I was thinking more in line of being roped and on belay.
 
2013-03-10 12:34:29 AM  
As if ice climbing wasn't dumb enough already.

Let's do it unroped!
Under another party!
Over a three thousand foot runout!
And video record it!
And post it!
 
2013-03-10 01:23:51 AM  
So that's what death on a mountain looks like.
 
2013-03-10 01:35:14 AM  
I have a perfect ice climbing record.  Zero falls.

And that animated .gif is going to keep it that way.

/Disclaimer:  I have never been ice climbing.
 
2013-03-10 03:36:23 AM  
As a climber, I thought the oddest thing (and the last movement he could actually control) was that he leaned back when he saw the ice falling. I don't think he had any ability to arrest after that, and in reality, did well to avoid impaling himself on his equipment and keeping his crampons away from his body and the surface.
 
2013-03-10 07:00:13 AM  
Still not as scary as that time a guy on a snowmobile nearly died when part of a snow-covered cliff collapsed beneath him.

With this guy I kinda figured shiat was gonna happen when he tried to block the falling ice. With the snowmobiler that all came out of nowhere!
 
2013-03-10 08:22:54 AM  
Video is useless without a medical report.

Do we know the extent of the injuries?
 
2013-03-10 10:15:08 AM  
Coincidentally, I just watched  Vertical Limit(Chris O'Donnell, Bill Paxton) last night. There's a similar scene in that movie.
 
2013-03-10 10:21:52 AM  

ng2810: Still not as scary as that time a guy on a snowmobile nearly died when part of a snow-covered cliff collapsed beneath him.

With this guy I kinda figured shiat was gonna happen when he tried to block the falling ice. With the snowmobiler that all came out of nowhere!


Holy crap. Yeah, although the snowmobiler isn't gonna be sore as hell the next day like the ice climber, that was pretty damn scarier.
 
2013-03-10 10:27:57 AM  
It's a GoPro, so it looked much worse than it actually was. That wide angle lense made it look it look bad, but he really only traveled about 3 feet on a "mountain" that was obviously only about 12 feet high. Silly GoPro cameras.
 
2013-03-10 11:09:39 AM  

August11: Video is useless without a medical report.

Do we know the extent of the injuries?


There's another report somewhere. He actually had climbing buddies and they called for help immediately. There happened to be a rescue helicopter in the area practicing and help was with him in something like 10 minutes. I think it was somewhere in Britain. He's fine but broke or otherwise messed up his ankles. In the other report he talks about what he did right and wrong.
 
2013-03-10 12:25:16 PM  
JohnBuck41

Coincidentally, I just watched  Vertical Limit(Chris O'Donnell, Bill Paxton) last night. There's a similar scene in that movie.

The Vertical Limit is to real climbing what the Dukes of Hazard is to real law enforcement, just sayin'.
 
2013-03-10 12:54:19 PM  
@LadySusan

Thank you!
 
2013-03-10 01:13:35 PM  

New Age Redneck: Voiceofreason01

That looked like it hurt....a lot. Also a fine argument for why you should practice arresting techniques before you're several hundred feet up a steep slope made of ice.

   There is no self arrest on steep ice with a technical ice tool. Self arrest applies to a slope you can walk on and a piolet.

marius2So....what should we do if we're in that situation Farksperts?

    Don't simul solo in the line of fire. Don't climb under another party. Falling ice? Turtle under your pack. Sink your tools with solid sticks. etc.

Leading with gear on ice as well as soloing are no fall games, you do everything within the power of your being not to fall.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/db7090a153e0f6cb0bc6cf556ecac818/tumblr_m ii 9ezrfGp1rsy34co1_500.gif


Came to point out the folly of self-arrest in that situation, thanks.

But thanks also for the nightmares that I'll have from that clip....
 
2013-03-10 01:26:36 PM  

New Age Redneck: JohnBuck41

Coincidentally, I just watched  Vertical Limit(Chris O'Donnell, Bill Paxton) last night. There's a similar scene in that movie.

The Vertical Limit is to real climbing what the Dukes of Hazard is to real law enforcement, just sayin'.


I know. Still a fun movie for me, though. I like the SFX and seeing Paxton playing a rich arrogant asshole.
 
2013-03-10 01:39:49 PM  
John Buck 41

Still a fun movie

   I get the same thing with "Cliffhanger". Sly's got a rack you could split up with a dozen parties and have enough gear for each of them to aid climb El Cap, and naturally he's free soloing with that....I kinda wonder if the Hollywood folks knew they were making a comedy?
 
2013-03-10 01:46:20 PM  

New Age Redneck: John Buck 41

Still a fun movie

   I get the same thing with "Cliffhanger". Sly's got a rack you could split up with a dozen parties and have enough gear for each of them to aid climb El Cap, and naturally he's free soloing with that....I kinda wonder if the Hollywood folks knew they were making a comedy?


Went to IMDb to see if there was a climbing consultant that we could blame. No luck. Ed Viesturs has a cameo in VL but who's to say how much input he had as far as realism?
 
2013-03-10 02:32:57 PM  
John Buck 41

   Barry Blanchard also worked on the film (I think, and maybe Cliffhanger too), generally most Hollywood climbing films would have the best climbing consultants money can buy. That said, "real climbing"* is quite engaging for the participant and not so much for the audience.

/real climbing is my opinion* and is a very subjective...

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1tBf455jXE   This is a little more a reflection of modern climbing, and it is neat that the actual participants are the ones making the movie. Just don't know if anyone would "get it", just because I think "real" is better.... great view at 14:07
 
2013-03-10 02:39:25 PM  
NSFW language in above video, ooopps
 
2013-03-10 03:46:44 PM  
Looks like there was a climber ahead of him that knocked a chunk of ice loose. The guy tried to block it with his left hand and lost his grip and down he went.

I was thinking this very thing... you can see in the seconds before the ice chunk falls, etc - his right axe was not planted firmly/deeply enough.  "3 on, 1 off" - and he got slack - if this is obeyed, he could've/should've turtled - as mentioned above.

/3 on - 1 off. Always.
 
2013-03-10 03:58:37 PM  

New Age Redneck: John Buck 41

   Barry Blanchard also worked on the film (I think, and maybe Cliffhanger too), generally most Hollywood climbing films would have the best climbing consultants money can buy. That said, "real climbing"* is quite engaging for the participant and not so much for the audience.

/real climbing is my opinion* and is a very subjective...

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1tBf455jXE   This is a little more a reflection of modern climbing, and it is neat that the actual participants are the ones making the movie. Just don't know if anyone would "get it", just because I think "real" is better.... great view at 14:07


As with any movie (real documentaries notwithstanding) liberties are taken to increase the entertainment value/instant gratification/cramming as much WOW in 2 hours as possible ad nauseum. I get that.

Great video you posted, thanks.
 
2013-03-10 04:46:52 PM  
bump

/3 on - 1 off. Always.

Good point.

As well, he continued to look up which is a bad idea. If someone yells ice or you see it drop, look down and take the blow off the helmet or pack, they don't cut as easily as your face....yes, from experience...

John Buck 41

As with any movie (real documentaries notwithstanding) liberties are taken to increase the entertainment value/instant gratification/cramming as much WOW in 2 hours as possible ad nauseum. I get that.
Great video you posted, thanks.


   No problem. Mountaineering and alpinism have many great stories, Buhl, Bonatti, Beckey, Kurtyka, etc....the Polish climbers of the 1980's and 90's who paid dearly for daring winter ascents on the 8000m peaks....the Guy Lacelle's... the Ueli Steck's ....they are all great stories that don't need hyperbole or sensationalism to be compelling....but alas not really what the masses enjoy....
 
2013-03-10 09:23:11 PM  

New Age Redneck: they are all great stories that don't need hyperbole or sensationalism to be compelling


my two favorites, Reinhold Messner and Alex Lowe. Yes I realize this is like being a basketball fan and saying your favorite players are Michael Jordan and Magic Johnson, but so be it.
 
2013-03-10 09:39:50 PM  
It's people like this that drive up our health insurance costs.
 
2013-03-10 10:39:29 PM  

marius2: So....what should we do if we're in that situation Farksperts?


Well, for starts, he probably didn't need to be holding the axes like that for the stretch of snow he was climbing. It's much safer to climb with them in self-arrest preparatory position: hand on the top like a cane, pick pointing out / adze in, sinking the shaft into the snow to climb. With the axe leashed up properly on the wrist, climbing with the shaft in the snow gives you a nice anchor every step. It's not perfect, but it at least gives you a chance not to fly away if you slip. And then if you do slip downslope, you have an axe set to go for self-arrest instead of trying to flip it into the right position in time. If you can self-arrest in the first few seconds, you are much more likely to stop.

And all that stuff about not ducking the ice, not keeping crampons up, not flipping onto his belly, etc. Basic mountaineering stuff.

I haven't climbed for years now, but you never forget hard-won knowledge.
 
2013-03-10 10:58:05 PM  

Euell Gibbons: It's people like this that drive up our health insurance costs.


Actually, it's lazy motharfarkers that smoke, drink, eat like shiat and never get off their couches that drive up health insurance costs.
 
2013-03-10 11:57:07 PM  
Watching that brought memories of watching the movie Touching the Void.  Just thinking about that movie makes me wince.
 
2013-03-11 02:31:17 AM  
Looked like he busted his left leg.
 
2013-03-11 09:33:00 AM  
www.morethings.com
/not impressed
 
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