Quantum Apostrophe: Hey, at least I don't think we're months away from some kind of sci-fi utopia because some smelly nerds put a glue gun on a stepper motor
Quantum Apostrophe: Hilarious coming from you.
gingerjet: Ishkur: A Star Trek movie that uses true science fiction to explore humanity's sense of wonder at the infinite. It could have a real philosophical puzzler with a Rod Serling-esque twist at the end, and spark profound contemplation on life, reality, and the nature of the human condition. I miss when Star Trek meant discovery and exploration of the unknown and unexplained.But hey.... gotta sell movie tickets or something.I see you answered your own question./and if you want profound contemplation of life, reality, and the nature of the human condition - read a book
Bathia_Mapes: I think I just had a nerdgasm.
kendelrio: I think **some** of us are reading a little too much into a TV series. Honestly, who dissects a freaking TV show like this?????
kendelrio: Honestly, who dissects a freaking TV show like this?????
Confabulat: J.J. Abrams's version of Trek is the version of Trek I grew up dreaming about back in the 70s and 80s. I was a kid and it was pretty hard to find Star Trek reruns but I ate them up when I could.When I was in college they debuted The Next Generation and I watched it and liked it, but it always fell short of TOS for me. The other shows other than DS9 are nonsense and should be ignored.But who cares about that crap, it was always about Kirk and Spock and McCoy getting into wacky adventures.Did you "purists" never notice that? It was a fun and silly show, with lots of green sex and space hippies and tribbles and Mudd. Sorry you didn't ever catch onto that part.Tell me more about how wise and brilliant it was.Brain brain, where is brain?
cptjeff: Confabulat: But who cares about that crap, it was always about Kirk and Spock and McCoy getting into wacky adventures.Did you "purists" never notice that? It was a fun and silly show, with lots of green sex and space hippies and tribbles and Mudd. Sorry you didn't ever catch onto that part.Well, it was about Kirk, Spock, and McCoy, anyway. But your childish mind missed that each represented elements of the human condition, and that those wacky adventures were largly morality plays that pitted those various human impulses against each other.It was fun and silly in many respects, but if you weren't 8, you might have caught on to a few deeper levels than that.
ActionJoe: cptjeff: Confabulat: I bet you loved the whales movie too.I honestly did. It was silly without being stupid, with a few more serious bits thrown in here and there. Humorous content is still content. If JJ Trek had created characters believable enough where you could do that kind of movie without it coming across as a 2 hour long string of forced jokes, I wouldn't hate it as much. But if you did that kind of movie with neuTrek, it would come off as a sad parody.If you don't like Star Trek, you don't like Star Trek. That's fine. But please recognize that the stuff JJ Abrams threw out there bears no semblance to anything related to Star Trek- it's a generic action movie that takes character names and settings from a series that still has some cache. Star Trek got itself on the map because it offered an option on TV that wasn't meaningless drivel. The acting was not the best, the production value was far from high, but it at least tried to make the characters real and to deal with something beyond another empty romantic farce. But with the new Trek, there's no there there. It's summer action flick #47. I gave the first one a chance, but very much doubt that I'll extend the same courtesy to this one.What you seem to be missing here is Star Trek TOS had three years to build up characters. The movies expanded on the characters we knew and put them in crazy over the top situations because you need that for movies. But they always had that underlying nuance of story and character that everyone says Star Trek should have. The reason Star Trek has that is because all the movies have been made after the television series aired. The new Trek had none of that. We have completely new characters and there is no time for subtle plots and intricate character development. Sure, they are based on old characters but there hasn't been much story so they needed to make a story that would fit in a movie.
Alphax: cptjeff: The original Trek offered a bit more. JJ Trek doesn't offer anything.I don't think that's a given.
Confabulat: But who cares about that crap, it was always about Kirk and Spock and McCoy getting into wacky adventures.Did you "purists" never notice that? It was a fun and silly show, with lots of green sex and space hippies and tribbles and Mudd. Sorry you didn't ever catch onto that part.
Confabulat: People who still hate J.J. Abrams' s version of Trek have really bad taste in entertainment.
Confabulat: I bet you loved the whales movie too.
Confabulat: cptjeff: Star Trek is not enjoying good times.Pine away for those glory years of Voyager.
FiendishFellow05: I'm sure a great deal of the Star Trek fan base would like that. But if you go in that direction, you risk alienating the mainstream audience and a box office bomb, potentially leading to another hiatus.
FiendishFellow05: Basically, Star Trek is enjoying good times now - enjoy the ride.
Quantum Apostrophe: Every single 3D printing story or private space fest has the usual cluster of mental midgets running in with their sci-fi fantasies. I wager you're one of them.
Quantum Apostrophe: Something tells me you're in your twenties
Quantum Apostrophe: Uh, it was fiction. It didn't explore much of anything. It's a story. On TV. With actors and sets and bad special effects.
Mugato: That was the first movie and the fifth movie and people hated them
Kid Mojo: At the end it kinda looks like they unattached the two parts of the ship and crash landed the saucer part. Original.
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