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(Google)   Barely 3 months after its founding, the world is clamoring for local branches of Britain's "Atheist Church"   (google.com) divider line 185
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2013-03-09 01:59:26 PM
only losers need Church
 
2013-03-09 02:12:44 PM
Doesn't that defeat the purpose?
 
2013-03-09 02:23:13 PM

Chariset: Doesn't that defeat the purpose?


That's a matter of perspective.  I don't know of any atheists who disapprove of socializing, or of engaging in charitable work, or listening to others' ideas about how to live a happy, fulfilling life.  Religious services satisfy those needs for some, but they require belief in God(s).  There is nothing in any of those activities that requires a belief in God(s), so if someone wants to engage in those activities but doesn't believe, this "church" gives them an opportunity to do that in an organized setting.

It doesn't appeal to me, personally, because I like sleeping in on weekends and don't really enjoy large group gatherings.  I find "DIY" charity and reading about others' ideas to be more appealing than organized tithing and listening to lectures, but to each his own.
 
2013-03-09 02:28:59 PM
somehow the whole act of going to church, seems nefarious in a way..
 
2013-03-09 05:28:42 PM
When atheists get together whom do they pester with pompous asshole remarks?
 
2013-03-09 05:41:36 PM

WTF Indeed: When atheists get together whom do they pester with pompous asshole remarks?


Each other, that way we keep our sense of smug personal superiority.

Now, on a more serious note, the best part of about being an atheist is not going to church.  Who the fark would want to mess with that?

I blame the Christians.
 
2013-03-09 05:57:22 PM
Herding cats....

Well, maybe it's different someplace like the UK, where the main church is a moribund beast that's the long term victim of centralized planning. As opposed the unbridled capitalist evolution of American religion.
 
2013-03-09 05:59:33 PM
Atheists have a lot of catching up to do.

There's no such thing as an atheist schoolgirl outfit.
No little old atheist ladies making kickass food at the Dawkins Festival.
No choirs, and therefore no choir lofts where you can bring a girl to make out.
 
2013-03-09 06:13:39 PM

Chariset: Doesn't that defeat the purpose?


Depends on what you think the purpose is.
 
2013-03-09 06:21:34 PM
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2013-03-09 06:31:01 PM
I'm an atheist and I aint clamoring.

Not much of a clamorer as a rule and this whole Atheist Church concept runs contrary to the "extra sleep ins to make up for years of weekly church attendance" thing I got going on over here..
 
2013-03-09 06:32:01 PM
"Actually, the biggest aggression towards us has probably been from atheists saying that we're ruining atheism and not not believing in God properly. So that's quite funny."


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2013-03-09 06:33:40 PM
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2013-03-09 06:40:56 PM
As far as I can see, atheism IS a religion.

They believe there is NO god, despite having no verifiable proof.

That's religion.
 
2013-03-09 06:42:30 PM
I am curious if these guys are going to be able to swing this into a pyramid profit scam like all the religions have done.

Next thing you know they could be draped in gold wearing Italian hand-made red leather shoes and be preaching about helping the poor. Or something like that.
 
2013-03-09 06:43:33 PM
The service ended with big cheers and -- this is Britain, after all -- shouts of "Who would like a cup of tea?"

A church that serves tea (and cake)?

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2013-03-09 06:45:11 PM

SpdrJay: As far as I can see, atheism IS a religion.

They believe there is NO god, despite having no verifiable proof.

That's religion.


Let's see ... wrong, wrong and wrong. You're 3 for 3 on the idiot scale. Congratz.

Atheists make no claims. We do not claim that there is no god.

The religious claim there is a god and provide no proof to support their claim ... so we ignore their claim as simple logic dictates. This is not a claim of non-existence.
 
2013-03-09 06:47:21 PM
That's some girthy irony right there.
 
2013-03-09 06:56:00 PM
Hi, I'm not among those that need a congregation. If I want to better myself, I do. If I want to socialize, I do. The need for any kind of "church" or "flock" or "congregation" is a weakness no different than the crutch that is religion.
 
2013-03-09 06:59:20 PM

SpdrJay: As far as I can see, atheism IS a religion.

They believe there is NO god, despite having no verifiable proof.

That's religion.


I'm not sure whether to give you 1/10 for a minimally passable troll dump, or a 0/10 for being rather dumb.

The point is that, at best, that was a 1/10.
 
2013-03-09 07:02:34 PM

Farking Canuck: SpdrJay: As far as I can see, atheism IS a religion.

They believe there is NO god, despite having no verifiable proof.

That's religion.

Let's see ... wrong, wrong and wrong. You're 3 for 3 on the idiot scale. Congratz.

Atheists make no claims. We do not claim that there is no god.

The religious claim there is a god and provide no proof to support their claim ... so we ignore their claim as simple logic dictates. This is not a claim of non-existence.


But you are happy to wear the label that says "Religious practice is the natural order", right? Because by branding one's self as being A-theistic means. Like Atypical, or Asexual, it specifies that being theistic is the natural order. God wins?
 
2013-03-09 07:06:14 PM

chaoswolf: Hi, I'm not among those that need a congregation. If I want to better myself, I do. If I want to socialize, I do. The need for any kind of "church" or "flock" or "congregation" is a weakness no different than the crutch that is religion.


Yes, yes. We are all really impressed by what a hardcore maverick loner you are.

/seriously, what is the point of post like that?
 
2013-03-09 07:06:51 PM
Having a tax-exempt and tax-deductible club house could be kinda cool.

In real life it would probably have too much drama from self appointed experts who want sworn allegiance to their worldview and purpose, who won't leave the rest of the congregants alone to drink beer or whatever else they want to do that is supported by their tax deductible donations.
 
2013-03-09 07:20:30 PM

SpdrJay: As far as I can see, atheism IS a religion.

They believe there is NO god, despite having no verifiable proof.

That's religion.


3/10. Guaranteed replies, but that's low-hanging fruit.
 
2013-03-09 07:21:59 PM

SpdrJay: As far as I can see, atheism IS a religion.

They believe there is NO god, despite having no verifiable proof.

That's religion.


As far as I can see, you're an idiot.

You believe atheism is a religion, despite the absence if supernatural beliefs.

That's idiocy.
 
2013-03-09 07:26:09 PM
The world was founded three years ago?
 
2013-03-09 07:31:51 PM

uttertosh: Farking Canuck: SpdrJay: As far as I can see, atheism IS a religion.

They believe there is NO god, despite having no verifiable proof.

That's religion.

Let's see ... wrong, wrong and wrong. You're 3 for 3 on the idiot scale. Congratz.

Atheists make no claims. We do not claim that there is no god.

The religious claim there is a god and provide no proof to support their claim ... so we ignore their claim as simple logic dictates. This is not a claim of non-existence.

But you are happy to wear the label that says "Religious practice is the natural order", right? Because by branding one's self as being A-theistic means. Like Atypical, or Asexual, it specifies that being theistic is the natural order. God wins?


*golf clap* Bravo.
 
2013-03-09 07:59:08 PM
What's wrong with Unitarian Universalism? When I went to one probably half the congregation were atheist, and everyone was cool with it. It's as close to an atheist church as I can think of, and it has a long history.
My best UU story: my very religious in-laws were very happy that we finally were going to church. First chance they got they wanted to go, so we took them to the beautiful UU church in downtown Lynchburg. One of the first things in the ceremony is a bit where you can get up to share concerns and joys- people sick, upcoming weddings, etc. Two women get up and announce that this was their one year anniversary of their marriage in the church and they wanted to celebrate with everyone
/Loved the look on the in-law's faces.
 
2013-03-09 08:05:38 PM
Atheism is the easiest religion to troll.
 
2013-03-09 08:11:21 PM
Is atheism a religion yet?

Speaking as a "christian" that doesn't go to church, and sees church/religionism as a problem, I especially got a kick our of:

"Actually, the biggest aggression towards us has probably been from atheists saying that we're ruining atheism and not not believing in God properly. So that's quite funny."
 
2013-03-09 08:14:07 PM

Farking Canuck: Atheists make no claims


I hope you got to the ER before you died of laughter after posting that most hilarious post.
 
2013-03-09 08:16:24 PM

uttertosh: Like Atypical, or Asexual, it specifies that being theistic is the natural order. God wins?


Smart: *click*
Funny: *click*
 
2013-03-09 08:17:44 PM

Chariset: Doesn't that defeat the purpose?


No. Any other stupid questions?
 
2013-03-09 08:19:25 PM

SpdrJay: As far as I can see, atheism IS a religion.

They believe there is NO god, despite having no verifiable proof.

That's religion.


Om, no. Anyone else want to say something stupid?
 
2013-03-09 08:20:10 PM

Frank N Stein: Atheism is the easiest religion to troll.


Wrong!  Muslims are the easiest to troll.  Print a picture of Muhommad in a newspaper and watch the hilarity.
 
2013-03-09 08:23:50 PM

uttertosh: But you are happy to wear the label that says "Religious practice is the natural order", right? Because by branding one's self as being A-theistic means. Like Atypical, or Asexual, it specifies that being theistic is the natural order. God wins?


What does religion have to do with God? Religion isn't about God. God is just window dressing to give legitimacy and authority to the priests. Religion is about priests. Gods come, and gods go. They are created whole cloth out of our imaginations and are later forgotten. Priests? Priests endure.
 
2013-03-09 08:25:51 PM
I don't get it.
 
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2013-03-09 08:27:11 PM
"the world is clamoring for local branches of Britain's "Atheist Church"


Organized disbelief?
 
2013-03-09 08:28:46 PM
Personally I leave the line for religion blank on a survey if asked.  I don't care, certainly not enough to be 'anti-religion' like the atheists that need to attend a farking anti-religion church.  Have fun being in a movement that only exists because what you're rallying against exists, I'll just be over here with the people wanting to move on from the dark ages.
 
2013-03-09 08:28:55 PM
If you have churches, it is a religion.
 
2013-03-09 08:31:45 PM
Oh and in before letrole drops the "Atheism is a religion." line into this thread.  Its java platform must be running updates.
 
2013-03-09 08:35:09 PM
It's not a church, it's a social club

A social club which meets on Sunday morning in a sober setting as opposed to a social club which meets on Friday evening for purpose of getting unsober.

While I'd expect a higher than desirable level of cardigan and sandal wearing, obviously many find it a good way to fill up a dreary london Sunday morning
 
2013-03-09 08:35:29 PM

s2s2s2: Is atheism a religion yet?


No

Nemo's Brother: If you have churches, it is a religion.


Also no

But if calling atheism a religion fulfills some weird need of yours, go right ahead.
 
2013-03-09 08:39:11 PM

MinkeyMan: chaoswolf: Hi, I'm not among those that need a congregation. If I want to better myself, I do. If I want to socialize, I do. The need for any kind of "church" or "flock" or "congregation" is a weakness no different than the crutch that is religion.

Yes, yes. We are all really impressed by what a hardcore maverick loner you are.

/seriously, what is the point of post like that?


The point of the post was to share an opinion. What was the point of your personal attack other than to show what kind of low person you are?
 
2013-03-09 08:43:04 PM

BumpInTheNight: Personally I leave the line for religion blank on a survey if asked.  I don't care, certainly not enough to be 'anti-religion' like the atheists that need to attend a farking anti-religion church.  Have fun being in a movement that only exists because what you're rallying against exists, I'll just be over here with the people wanting to move on from the dark ages.


Another one that doesn't get it. What many atheists don't understand is that religion fills a large social need in its followers. Many former believers miss that social gathering. This fills that need. Would I go? No. But I'm not a former anything. I've never believed in any kid of god nor have I attended church. And I doubt most of these people are rebelling. Not everyone else is angry.
 
2013-03-09 08:51:08 PM
I still don't get it.
 
2013-03-09 08:51:53 PM

Ed Grubermann: BumpInTheNight: Personally I leave the line for religion blank on a survey if asked.  I don't care, certainly not enough to be 'anti-religion' like the atheists that need to attend a farking anti-religion church.  Have fun being in a movement that only exists because what you're rallying against exists, I'll just be over here with the people wanting to move on from the dark ages.

Another one that doesn't get it. What many atheists don't understand is that religion fills a large social need in its followers. Many former believers miss that social gathering. This fills that need. Would I go? No. But I'm not a former anything. I've never believed in any kid of god nor have I attended church. And I doubt most of these people are rebelling. Not everyone else is angry.


Ah yes the ex-religious types looking to fill the void.  I remember this from the last atheists social club with a meeting hall they called a church thread, I acknowledge that coming from a religious background where your sunday mornings were a consistent meeting with others in an echo chamber of self-affirmation.  Those of us who didn't grow up this way though haven't such a void in the first place to fill.  In other words just get on with your lives and socialize normally, no need to specifically seek out anti-religious settings.  IE join a gym or online guild, whatever.  When you start meeting just for the sake of interacting with others that left religion you really haven't left it in the first place.
 
2013-03-09 09:00:47 PM
Atheism may not always be a religion, but it is a faith. A belief that there are no deities which is not based on proof (how could you prove that?). New Atheism is a religion, one that many farkers seem to subscribe.

Agnosticism is much more logical than atheism. Actively believing that beings which (by many definitions) cannot be proven to exist don't exist makes as much sense as believing they do exist.
 
2013-03-09 09:04:15 PM
I'm Catholic, and I go to service weekly.

I am actually OK with this.   It actually seems pretty cool.

/VERY liberal Catholic
 
2013-03-09 09:08:47 PM

Bisu: Agnosticism is much more logical than atheism


1) Strong theist. 100 per cent probability of God. In the words of C.G. Jung: "I do not believe, I know."

2) De facto theist. Very high probability but short of 100 per cent. "I don't know for certain, but I strongly believe in God and live my life on the assumption that he is there."

3) Leaning towards theism. Higher than 50 per cent but not very high. "I am very uncertain, but I am inclined to believe in God."

4) Completely impartial. Exactly 50 per cent. "God's existence and non-existence are exactly equiprobable."

5) Leaning towards atheism. Lower than 50 per cent but not very low. "I do not know whether God exists but I'm inclined to be skeptical."

6) De facto atheist. Very low probability, but short of zero. "I don't know for certain but I think God is very improbable, and I live my life on the assumption that he is not there."

7) Strong atheist. "I know there is no God, with the same conviction as Jung knows there is one."


You'll probably find the vast majority of self-described Atheists falling into category 6. This is not a position that requires faith, just as not believing in Santa Claus does not mean a person has faith that there is no Santa Claus.

I'd also like to point out that it's not the belief that makes the religion. Religion is the formalized doctrine, rituals and dogma that are based on the presumption of a particular belief, not the belief itself. Since Atheism has no formalized doctrine, rituals or dogma it is not a religion.
=Smidge=
 
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