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(Opposing Views)   Nine-year-old boy brings cupcakes to school for his birthday, gets in trouble for what he decorated them with. Were the decorations a) giant swastikas, b) pretty pot leaves, or c) little green army men?   (opposingviews.com) divider line 116
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2013-03-09 12:32:53 PM  
but my coworkers all say that guns are kewl
 
2013-03-09 01:02:58 PM  
Why do schools hate our warfighters?
 
2013-03-09 01:10:03 PM  
Ohyouhavegottobeshiattingme.
 
2013-03-09 01:14:28 PM  
I'm so glad I grew up in the 80s.
 
2013-03-09 01:32:12 PM  
"Our commitment is always to our children and creating a safe place for them to learn, grown and have respectful dialogues about their differences."

And I'm sure the half inch long guns attached to the two inch tall army men create a giant safety hazard
 
2013-03-09 01:39:11 PM  
those things can be dangerous... if you step on them barefoot.
 
jbc [TotalFark]
2013-03-09 01:48:36 PM  

ArkAngel: And I'm sure the half inch long guns attached to the two inch tall army men create a giant safety hazard


They are if the clueless little yardmonsters shove the cupcake in their mouth.
 
2013-03-09 02:17:12 PM  
if you really give a shiat about nonviolence in school hire some playground monitors that actually do something when a kid is getting his little arse beat.
 
2013-03-09 02:17:36 PM  
jeez, bring on the nukes Kim Jong Un. We deserve it at this point
 
2013-03-09 02:18:46 PM  
How many bets on whether or not the school board finds a reason not to extend this principal's contract?
 
2013-03-09 02:18:56 PM  
A school teaching young kids to hate the military? Whoda thunk?
 
2013-03-09 02:19:17 PM  

skullkrusher: jeez, bring on the nukes Kim Jong Un. We deserve it at this point


why not?  there's absolutely nothing gay about running a country where you demand capitalism does not happen
 
2013-03-09 02:20:02 PM  
This is what happens when we allow stupid people to proceed without being informed that they are incredibly stupid.
 
2013-03-09 02:20:06 PM  
I don't trust the snowflakes not to swallow the army men, so probably a good thing.
 
2013-03-09 02:20:28 PM  
How can anyone, in good conscience, put their kids into such an insane system?

Homeschooling: It isn't just for Religious Fundies anymore.
 
2013-03-09 02:20:40 PM  

stirfrybry: A school teaching young kids to hate the military? Whoda thunk?


Sense, you make none.
 
2013-03-09 02:20:46 PM  

ArkAngel: "Our commitment is always to our children and creating a safe place for them to learn, grown and have respectful dialogues about their differences."

And I'm sure the half inch long pieces of molded plastic in the general shape of guns attached to the two inch tall army men create a giant safety hazard


Fixed.
 
2013-03-09 02:21:49 PM  

KrispyKritter: if you really give a shiat about nonviolence in school hire some playground monitors that actually do something when a kid is getting his little arse beat.



They DO do something.

They suspend the victim for "fighting".
 
2013-03-09 02:23:34 PM  
At least he didn't try to board an airplane with them. He'd be in Gitmo right now.
 
2013-03-09 02:23:54 PM  
Moran Teacher:  "Principal Shiat for Brains, a student has brough in cup cakes with toys on top that have been loved by everyone for almost a century!!!!!"

Principal Shiat for Brains: "SHUT DOWN EVERYTHING!"
 
2013-03-09 02:24:30 PM  

Jon iz teh kewl: skullkrusher: jeez, bring on the nukes Kim Jong Un. We deserve it at this point

why not?  there's absolutely nothing gay about running a country where you demand capitalism does not happen


uhhh...
 
2013-03-09 02:24:46 PM  

dave2198: stirfrybry: A school teaching young kids to hate the military? Whoda thunk?

Sense, you make none.

child psychology, you know shiat about it. No wonder it makes no sense to you. You see, by making little plastic army men a bad thing, the children are being taught army men are bad. Pretty simple. Obviously too complicated for you, however that may be.
 
2013-03-09 02:26:42 PM  
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2013-03-09 02:27:43 PM  

Amos Quito: KrispyKritter: if you really give a shiat about nonviolence in school hire some playground monitors that actually do something when a kid is getting his little arse beat.
They DO do something.
They suspend the victim for "fighting".


Been there done that...in the 80s.  Yes, it's definitely a thing and has been for some time.
 
2013-03-09 02:28:45 PM  
lh6.googleusercontent.com

Mmmmmm cupcakes.
 
2013-03-09 02:30:55 PM  
www.smithandwessonforums.com
 
jbc [TotalFark]
2013-03-09 02:31:23 PM  

Mrbogey: This is what happens when we allow stupid people to proceed without being informed that they are incredibly stupid.


People have informed skullkrusher and stirfryby multiple times, but they are going to keep posting.
 
2013-03-09 02:31:49 PM  

Amos Quito: How can anyone, in good conscience, put their kids into such an insane system?

Homeschooling: It isn't just for Religious Fundies anymore.


That would require a parent being home during the day. Most families can't afford it.
 
2013-03-09 02:32:29 PM  
I'm studying to be a principal and I'm really afraid that the day they award me my diploma they're going to remove my brain with an ice cream scoop.
 
2013-03-09 02:32:48 PM  
Next up, Toy Stores begin to remove any toy that might be "disturbing"  in the horrible aftermath/wake of the SANDYHOOK.
 
2013-03-09 02:33:15 PM  
I'm guessing cowboys and indians at the school playground is completely out of the question these days...
 
2013-03-09 02:33:34 PM  
The principal says that no disrespect was intended towards either the family or the military, but she did assert that "Our commitment is always to our children and creating a safe place for them to learn, grown and have respectful dialogues about their differences."

Loving that non-apology, lady.

This is what happens when stupid people are allowed to be educators.  They spout back whatever bullshiat nonsense they've heard on advocating non-violence, no mater how nonsensical, and they apply it to all things, no matter how insignificant.  NO critical thought or plain old common sense, whatsoever.

Amos Quito: Homeschooling: It isn't just for Religious Fundies anymore.


Yeah, this.
 
2013-03-09 02:35:31 PM  
Public shools and their teachers these days, are about as far removed from the realities of life as you can get.
 
2013-03-09 02:36:58 PM  
If an adult can no longer distinguish non-reality from reality, they have to be removed from the presence of children
 
2013-03-09 02:38:55 PM  

Arthur Jumbles: I'm studying to be a principal and I'm really afraid that the day they award me my diploma they're going to remove my brain with an ice cream scoop.


If that happens, they'll just assign you to a SPED school.

//smoking, one-way please.
//cousin is a SPED principal
 
2013-03-09 02:40:02 PM  
Zero-tolerance is a bullshiat cop-out.  "It's just too much to have to process any given situation, so let's just rule all possible situations unacceptable and be done with it."
 
2013-03-09 02:40:13 PM  
I think they're afraid that one of the kids that should have been left behind will shallow one of the toy soldiers and choke to death on it.

tomheroes.com
 
2013-03-09 02:41:34 PM  
FTA: "Living in a democratic society entails respect for opposing opinions."

i1.kym-cdn.com
 
2013-03-09 02:42:23 PM  

FC Exile: Public shools and their teachers these days, are about as far removed from the realities of life as you can get.


Congress and judges are pretty far from "normal people" reality as well.
 
2013-03-09 02:43:06 PM  
Ya know if this nonsensical shiat was around when I was in elementary school (82-87) the entire school would've been expelled. No one gave a shiat if we played Smear the Queer. Nowadays the kids would be forced into sensitivity training. I'm really glad I went to school when I did.
 
2013-03-09 02:52:42 PM  
So they are suggesting "your father is an bad man" and "the army is a bad organization."

I think this administration should answer to the industrial military complex.
 
2013-03-09 02:53:31 PM  
Wow...

I have a radical idea.  Let's take everyone involved in the education process.  Anyone who's ideas on violence is too extreme in either direction (Beatings for all students if moral is too low, or violence, even so much as a finger shaped as a gun or swinging your fist back as nine people beat your ass is just as wrong as the nine who are beating your ass) and fire them.  Next bring in sane people with balls and spines to tell students "Look, you are here for an education, and one thing you have to learn is that even in a civilized society, violence can be an answer, but that doesn't justify all forms of violence..." and go from there.

My eighth grade English teacher told us, when zero tolerance was announced in my school, that when he was in school, two people fight, they had it out, and afterwards, that was it.  It was out of their system.  He said "Take away that outlet, things will just get worse.  I'd rather see two guys fight and get it out of their systems and move on than see the anger build to a point where things will get worse that two students slugging it out."  I have to wonder sometimes, would bullying be the big deal it is now if the victim could punch his bully and at worse, just get one day of detention and not have the cops called?  I used to bully kids when I was younger.  Having two of my victims gang up on me one day on the playground taught me a painful and embarrassing lesson that can't be taught anymore.
 
2013-03-09 02:53:50 PM  
Our commitment is always to our children and creating a safe place for them to learn, grown and have respectful dialogues about their differences

Unless your part in the dialogue includes not being rabidly anti-gun.
 
2013-03-09 02:54:40 PM  

astouffer: Amos Quito: How can anyone, in good conscience, put their kids into such an insane system?

Homeschooling: It isn't just for Religious Fundies anymore.



That would require a parent being home during the day. Most families can't afford it.


I know, and I haz a sad.

Back in the day, one parent could work, and a family - even a large family - could live quite comfortably. A second income allowed for "luxury" items.

These days most families struggle to make ends meet with BOTH parents working. The poor get poorer, the rich get super-rich, and the middle class disappears.

And the schools? They don't even pretend to "educate", but have become government babysitting facilities / social indoctrination centers.
 
2013-03-09 02:55:58 PM  
The indoctrination of the teachers is complete. It's time to save your kids. Get them out while you still can.

/I wish I was joking
 
2013-03-09 02:56:10 PM  
Hello? Doctor Who?  Can you take me in your TARDIS and drop me off in 1977 or something and just, ya know, leave me there?  This century is all kinds of farked up.  :/
 
2013-03-09 02:57:11 PM  

calbert: those things can be dangerous... if you step on them barefoot.


You're thinking of LEGO.
 
2013-03-09 02:57:39 PM  
So the whole "support the troops" thing is over?
 
2013-03-09 02:58:06 PM  
Zero intelligence strikes again. Next time just bring one big penis cake for the whole class.
 
2013-03-09 02:58:08 PM  
Should have only used the radio-carrying army guys. Spielberg those cakes!
 
2013-03-09 02:58:51 PM  
1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-03-09 02:59:13 PM  

Hoopy Frood: So the whole "support the troops" thing is over?


well mexico seems happy enough being it's own country
lets nuke them
 
2013-03-09 02:59:15 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Amos Quito: Homeschooling: It isn't just for Religious Fundies anymore.

Yeah, this.


I think I'd rather deal with a nation of mouthbreathing fundies than a nation of pansies that are afraid of little pieces of green plastic.  I mean, christ, people!
 
2013-03-09 03:02:15 PM  

Jon iz teh kewl: Pricipal . Caught sayof school that has stoped Handstandsing " See, told ya so" Is He dead or not. CNN Says yes. St. Pete Times Looking for chads -OR- "hello, I am write single to salute and wait for answer again"


People on 'ludes should not Fark.
 
2013-03-09 03:02:21 PM  

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/fortunately the Constitution gives us the right to keep & bear R's
 
2013-03-09 03:05:25 PM  

FC Exile: Public shools and their teachers these days, are about as far removed from the realities of life as you can get.


There are over 90,000 elementary schools in the United States. Getting outraged by the one off cases of stupidity is pointless. Since this case represents such a small minority of public school teachers, it's unfair to paint all of them with such a wide brush.
 
2013-03-09 03:17:01 PM  

xanadian: Benevolent Misanthrope: Amos Quito: Homeschooling: It isn't just for Religious Fundies anymore.

Yeah, this.

I think I'd rather deal with a nation of mouthbreathing fundies than a nation of pansies that are afraid of little pieces of green plastic.  I mean, christ, people!


Or people who can't tell the goddamn difference between a kid bringing a gun to school, and a kid bringing molded plastic army men figures with little 1/4" guns in their hands to school.

Seriously you goddamn f*ckwits.  WTF?
 
2013-03-09 03:17:44 PM  
School removes something because it might be considered insensitive.
Gets yelled at.
School doesn't remove something, inevitably offends some busybody.
Gets yelled at.
The solution is simple. Yell at everybody from the beginning.

/And kill all the lawyers.
//Oh read a farking book.
 
2013-03-09 03:17:55 PM  

tylerdurden217: There are over 90,000 elementary schools in the United States. Getting outraged by the one off cases of stupidity is pointless. Since this case represents such a small minority of public school teachers, it's unfair to paint all of them with such a wide brush.


Either you're trolling or you're ignoring the fact that one of these kinds of stories pops up damned near daily.

Plastic army guys, pointing and saying "bang", suspended for allegedly biting a pop tart into the shape of a gun and then offering counselling for those students who were "distressed".  And that's just March 2013.

Both my parents were teachers as is my brother and his wife.  I have great respect for the idea of public education.  But Dad retired, in large part, because he couldn't deal with this kind of BS administrative decisions.
 
2013-03-09 03:18:22 PM  

Dancin_In_Anson: Ohyouhavegottobeshiattingme.


I prefer what I learned on Fark:  FFS

I think it is very elegant.
 
2013-03-09 03:18:27 PM  

7th Son of a 7th Son: Ya know if this nonsensical shiat was around when I was in elementary school (82-87) the entire school would've been expelled. No one gave a shiat if we played Smear the Queer. Nowadays the kids would be forced into sensitivity training. I'm really glad I went to school when I did.


The good old days when you could beat up on the weak kids, amirite?
 
2013-03-09 03:19:00 PM  

tylerdurden217: FC Exile: Public shools and their teachers these days, are about as far removed from the realities of life as you can get.

There are over 90,000 elementary schools in the United States. Getting outraged by the one off cases of stupidity is pointless. Since this case represents such a small minority of public school teachers, it's unfair to paint all of them with such a wide brush.


To be fair it's the same brush as "any representation of a gun is a gun" brush.
 
2013-03-09 03:19:28 PM  
Arrgghgghggh! Can someone make this shiat stop! Ugh, my head hurts from all this!

So what, now when I flip someone off is THAT considered a weapon too?!
 
2013-03-09 03:21:17 PM  

ArkAngel: "Our commitment is always to our children and creating a safe place for them to learn, grown and have respectful dialogues about their differences."

And I'm sure the half inch long guns attached to the two inch tall army men create a giant safety hazard


There is a difference between hating violence and fearing violence. Inane bullshiat like this shows the latter.
 
2013-03-09 03:21:19 PM  

tylerdurden217: FC Exile: Public shools and their teachers these days, are about as far removed from the realities of life as you can get.

There are over 90,000 elementary schools in the United States. Getting outraged by the one off cases of stupidity is pointless. Since this case represents such a small minority of public school teachers, it's unfair to paint all of them with such a wide brush.


But it's the only brush we've got.
 
2013-03-09 03:25:27 PM  

Infobahn: I prefer what I learned on Fark: FFS

I think it is very elegant.


Perhaps but Ohyouhavegottobeshiattingme is....
 
2013-03-09 03:25:54 PM  
We need an award for People Who Take Themselves Way Too Seriously

(it's Sun morning and I can't be stuffed coming up with a clever acronym)
 
2013-03-09 03:31:05 PM  

Shadowtag: School removes something because it might be considered insensitive.
Gets yelled at.
School doesn't remove something, inevitably offends some busybody.
Gets yelled at.
The solution is simple. Yell at everybody from the beginning.

/And kill all the lawyers.
//Oh read a farking book.


It's a Turing test for sensibility. If you remove the things you're supposed to keep and keep the things you're supposed to remove... it makes you an idiot.
 
2013-03-09 03:37:03 PM  
Great Janitor:
Having two of my victims gang up on me one day on the playground taught me a painful and embarrassing lesson that can't be taught anymore.

This is true.
 
2013-03-09 03:40:39 PM  
I'd hate to be working in a school these days.  This is stupid, but not any more stupid than the repercussions the school might encounter if the goofy parents of today who might have a problem with gun violence being depicted on cupcakes sued the school.  These school workers are trying to appease everyone's sensibilities which are everything to the dumb parents.  Meanwhile, the kids just see the toys as little army guys.  It's the adults that are all farked up.
 
2013-03-09 03:45:37 PM  

xanadian: Hello? Doctor Who?  Can you take me in your TARDIS and drop me off in 1977 or something and just, ya know, leave me there?  This century is all kinds of farked up.  :/


Do you know how I can tell you're straight?

(Actually, for about 5 years you could have lots and lots of closeted gay sex. But then things would really start to suck...)
 
2013-03-09 03:47:13 PM  
Meanwhile, a child chokes on a plastic toy placed in food brought to a classroom and you're all screaming about the idiot teacher that let children near food with an obvious choking hazard.

www.cbc.ca
Kinder eggs, still illegal in the land of the free.
 
2013-03-09 03:48:03 PM  

Fart_Machine: [lh6.googleusercontent.com image 634x505]

Mmmmmm cupcakes.


It turns out that the army men were just used as a scapegoat.
The real problem was the...
fc08.deviantart.net
 
2013-03-09 03:49:02 PM  
As a veteran, I am offended by the hostility of the principal toward the military. She should be removed from office, fired and never allowed to work in the public school systems.

That is how this works, right? Anything less is a double standard that makes the principal's stand completely asinine.
 
2013-03-09 03:50:51 PM  
I'm just as surprised he didn't get in trouble for bringing sugary cupcakes to school instead of raw organic carrots or locally sustainable grapes or something.
 
2013-03-09 03:57:51 PM  

SundaesChild: I'm just as surprised he didn't get in trouble for bringing sugary cupcakes to school instead of raw organic carrots or locally sustainable grapes or something.


www.michelledudash.com
 
2013-03-09 04:00:50 PM  

Dancin_In_Anson: Jon iz teh kewl: Pricipal . Caught sayof school that has stoped Handstandsing " See, told ya so" Is He dead or not. CNN Says yes. St. Pete Times Looking for chads -OR- "hello, I am write single to salute and wait for answer again"

People on 'ludes should not Fark.


i2.kym-cdn.com
 
2013-03-09 04:10:23 PM  

Hiro-ACiD: Meanwhile, a child chokes on a plastic toy placed in food brought to a classroom and you're all screaming about the idiot teacher that let children near food with an obvious choking hazard.

[www.cbc.ca image 620x349]
Kinder eggs, still illegal in the land of the free.


The principal didn't remove the army men because they were choking hazards.  And how many 3rd graders choke on army men each year? 0?
 
2013-03-09 04:12:00 PM  
I agree with the decision if the minesweeper and commo guy were included. Those guys sucked.
 
2013-03-09 04:14:52 PM  
My daughter was sent home (suspended) for hugging a classmate.  She was 5 at the time.
 
2013-03-09 04:14:54 PM  
The pussification of America continues...
 
2013-03-09 04:15:09 PM  
horse shiat. this country is turning into it. etc
 
2013-03-09 04:15:58 PM  
The officer with the binoculars and outstretched arm sucked slightly less; someone needed to tell those he-men where to go.
 
2013-03-09 04:31:23 PM  
Why was he trying to blow up our freedoms?
 
2013-03-09 04:34:35 PM  

buckler: I agree with the decision if the minesweeper and commo guy were included. Those guys sucked.


commo rocked.

CONNECT 2400 IT WOULD OFTEN SAY.
 
2013-03-09 04:35:28 PM  

buckler: I agree with the decision if the minesweeper and commo guy were included. Those guys sucked.


The guy on the phone sucked big time ass.  Bayonet guy was always one of my favorites.
 
2013-03-09 04:39:13 PM  
Wow.  At this point we should really just all kill ourselves.
 
2013-03-09 04:39:51 PM  

RickN99: Hiro-ACiD: Meanwhile, a child chokes on a plastic toy placed in food brought to a classroom and you're all screaming about the idiot teacher that let children near food with an obvious choking hazard.

[www.cbc.ca image 620x349]
Kinder eggs, still illegal in the land of the free.

The principal didn't remove the army men because they were choking hazards.  And how many 3rd graders choke on army men each year? 0?


See, that's your first problem right there, you read the article.
 
2013-03-09 04:41:42 PM  
CSB: Last weekend about thirty 4th-graders and their dads played paintball at a nearby course when we consumed some 30,000 rounds over the four hours shooting each other at 200fps playing capture-the-flag.  Sure, some boys cried, others fell, but on the bus ride home everyone laughed and proudly sported war bruises.  A week later I still smile about how my son and his comrades ambushed me.

Thank gawd for private school.

/At close range, those things hurt like the dickens.
 
2013-03-09 04:45:45 PM  

rkiller1: CSB: Last weekend about thirty 4th-graders and their dads played paintball at a nearby course when we consumed some 30,000 rounds over the four hours shooting each other at 200fps playing capture-the-flag.  Sure, some boys cried, others fell, but on the bus ride home everyone laughed and proudly sported war bruises.  A week later I still smile about how my son and his comrades ambushed me.

Thank gawd for private school.

/At close range, those things hurt like the dickens.


I got tagged on the back of the neck from about 4 feet away once. Had a bleeding welt for a week and a half. Also taken shots to the balls.
 
2013-03-09 04:49:05 PM  
We should err on the side of permissiveness when it comes to guns or potential weapons in schools, amirite?
 
2013-03-09 04:53:15 PM  

tonguedepressor: buckler: I agree with the decision if the minesweeper and commo guy were included. Those guys sucked.

The guy on the phone sucked big time ass.  Bayonet guy was always one of my favorites.


Which one? The guy with his rifle in the ready position, or the one holding it over his head?
 
2013-03-09 04:55:31 PM  

ArkAngel: rkiller1: CSB: Last weekend about thirty 4th-graders and their dads played paintball at a nearby course when we consumed some 30,000 rounds over the four hours shooting each other at 200fps playing capture-the-flag.  Sure, some boys cried, others fell, but on the bus ride home everyone laughed and proudly sported war bruises.  A week later I still smile about how my son and his comrades ambushed me.

Thank gawd for private school.

/At close range, those things hurt like the dickens.

I got tagged on the back of the neck from about 4 feet away once. Had a bleeding welt for a week and a half. Also taken shots to the balls.


Right. I foolishly wore a short-sleeve shirt because I assumed they'd be protective gear for rent.  Wrong!  I still have a circular black-and-blue welts like Gene Wilder in Blazing Saddles, "little bastard shot me in the ass"
 
2013-03-09 04:58:15 PM  

buckler: tonguedepressor: buckler: I agree with the decision if the minesweeper and commo guy were included. Those guys sucked.

The guy on the phone sucked big time ass.  Bayonet guy was always one of my favorites.

Which one? The guy with his rifle in the ready position, or the one holding it over his head?


3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-03-09 04:59:34 PM  

tonguedepressor: buckler: tonguedepressor: buckler: I agree with the decision if the minesweeper and commo guy were included. Those guys sucked.

The guy on the phone sucked big time ass.  Bayonet guy was always one of my favorites.

Which one? The guy with his rifle in the ready position, or the one holding it over his head?

[3.bp.blogspot.com image 250x348]


There ya go.
 
2013-03-09 05:11:42 PM  

rkiller1: CSB: Last weekend about thirty 4th-graders and their dads played paintball at a nearby course when we consumed some 30,000 rounds over the four hours...


30K rounds?  That's what - 500 rounds per person?

Paintball is so different from when I played in the early nineties.  Granted, it was in its infancy, but we'd play for 6-8 hours and maybe go through 150-200 rounds per person.  Man, I miss those Nel-Spots, and my Tippman SL-68 even more.  Good times.

/onionbelt
 
2013-03-09 05:17:58 PM  

Thunderboy: 30K rounds? That's what - 500 rounds per person?


Nearly one thousand, but many spilled because the newbie boys mishandled the guns and they'd spill out of the holders and canisters.  We had about 5,000 left over which we just gave back.
 
2013-03-09 05:38:57 PM  

KrispyKritter: if you really give a shiat about nonviolence in school hire some playground monitors that actually do something when a kid is getting his little arse beat.


They do. They take videos and upload it for the amusement of others while claiming it is to bring awareness to bullying.
 
2013-03-09 05:39:32 PM  

Arthur Jumbles: I'm studying to be a principal and I'm really afraid that the day they award me my diploma they're going to remove my brain with an ice cream scoop.


Just remember these simple rules and you will go far.

Two magic words "Zero Tolerance". The politicians and stupid parents just eat that shiat up.
Suspensions are amazing. They can cure ANYTHING,
Call the cops in twice a month with their dogs to search lockers. It really shows everyone how tough you are.
Football is sacred.
 
2013-03-09 05:43:04 PM  

Hiro-ACiD: Meanwhile, a child chokes on a plastic toy placed in food brought to a classroom and you're all screaming about the idiot teacher that let children near food with an obvious choking hazard.

[www.cbc.ca image 620x349]
Kinder eggs, still illegal in the land of the free.


Bought some 2 weeks ago at the Commissary on Fort Wainwright, in Alaska.  And right around Christmas time, I got some at the dollar store near Lancaster, PA.  They may be banned, but plenty of places legitimately sell them.

Thunderboy: rkiller1: CSB: Last weekend about thirty 4th-graders and their dads played paintball at a nearby course when we consumed some 30,000 rounds over the four hours...

30K rounds?  That's what - 500 rounds per person?

Paintball is so different from when I played in the early nineties.  Granted, it was in its infancy, but we'd play for 6-8 hours and maybe go through 150-200 rounds per person.  Man, I miss those Nel-Spots, and my Tippman SL-68 even more.  Good times.

/onionbelt


No kidding.  You were playing when I was, and most of us had pump action guns.  When you rented a semi-auto, everyone's eyes got big, and they didn't want you on the other team.
 
2013-03-09 05:56:58 PM  

rkiller1: ArkAngel: rkiller1: CSB: Last weekend about thirty 4th-graders and their dads played paintball at a nearby course when we consumed some 30,000 rounds over the four hours shooting each other at 200fps playing capture-the-flag.  Sure, some boys cried, others fell, but on the bus ride home everyone laughed and proudly sported war bruises.  A week later I still smile about how my son and his comrades ambushed me.

Thank gawd for private school.

/At close range, those things hurt like the dickens.

I got tagged on the back of the neck from about 4 feet away once. Had a bleeding welt for a week and a half. Also taken shots to the balls.

Right. I foolishly wore a short-sleeve shirt because I assumed they'd be protective gear for rent.  Wrong!  I still have a circular black-and-blue welts like Gene Wilder in Blazing Saddles, "little bastard shot me in the ass"


I play in a white t-shirt and black athletic shorts now. You lose the pain control and hiding that you have with protective camo (which I used to wear), but you gain stamina from not sweating your ass off all day and speed and manueverability from the lack of thick clothing.
 
2013-03-09 06:06:57 PM  

Thunderboy: Zero-tolerance is a bullshiat cop-out.  "It's just too much to have to process any given situation, so let's just rule all possible situations unacceptable and be done with it."


Benevolent Misanthrope: This is what happens when stupid people are allowed to be educators.  They spout back whatever bullshiat nonsense they've heard on advocating non-violence, no mater how nonsensical, and they apply it to all things, no matter how insignificant.  NO critical thought or plain old common sense, whatsoever.


It really is amazing how quickly people can become ensnared in wrong or illogical thinking when it prevails in their industry and is tied into their professional ethics. The TSA is probably another good example. A lot of professions have an us-against-the-world mentality, in the sense that no one who doesn't perform the job could ever have a sense of what it's like and is therefore incapable of really forming an opinion. I came into teaching with no preconceived ideas regarding zero-tolerance policy (and no education degree, so I hadn't been inculcated into the whole non-violence at all costs dogma), firmly embraced it while I was a teacher because co-workers and more experienced educators quickly paved the way for it be tied into my moral code and sense of protection over the small children I took care of - and then rejected it when I stopped teaching and took a step back because it made no sense, is wickedly counter-productive, and puts kids who should be in detention or even just given a few minutes to cool off with their backs against the recess fence...in jail.

But that said, Thunderboy, even though I largely agree with you, I do need to point out that sometimes they don't have a choice. It's not up to individual teachers to decide whether to enforce a policy that they will lose their jobs if they don't enforce, and even the administrators who set the policies have their hands tied by terrified and paranoid snowflake-parents. Tough situation. Can't say I have the first idea what to really do about it.
 
2013-03-09 06:35:13 PM  
Good, I'm glad.  I think it's a good idea to suspend 5 year olds who point their finger guns, or throw air grenades, too.  We should make every effort to stigmatize violence and gun ownership.
 
2013-03-09 06:37:30 PM  

Fart_Machine: [lh6.googleusercontent.com image 634x505]

Mmmmmm cupcakes.


Mmmmmmmm Godwined.
 
2013-03-09 06:47:10 PM  
What is this 'Opposing Views' that keeps showing up?  Why would you name your site 'Opposing Views' and then only run fluff pieces?  It's like they want a respectable sounding name on the letterhead so they can put it on their job applications when they try to find real work.
 
2013-03-09 06:56:39 PM  
Well of course they removed the army men from the cupcakes.  Those damn things are choking hazards!
 
2013-03-09 07:10:40 PM  
DNRTFA. I guessed pot leaves

would have skewed next weeks Friday fark quiz- glad I checked in on thread
 
2013-03-09 07:30:33 PM  
Army men protect my computer.
 
2013-03-09 07:58:40 PM  

stirfrybry: dave2198: stirfrybry: A school teaching young kids to hate the military? Whoda thunk?

Sense, you make none.
child psychology, you know shiat about it. No wonder it makes no sense to you. You see, by making little plastic army men a bad thing, the children are being taught army men are bad. Pretty simple. Obviously too complicated for you, however that may be.


I thought only superheroes could make those kind of logical leaps.

/child psych is a bit more complicated than that
 
2013-03-09 08:15:36 PM  

Ranger Rover: Thunderboy: Zero-tolerance is a bullshiat cop-out.  "It's just too much to have to process any given situation, so let's just rule all possible situations unacceptable and be done with it."

It really is amazing how quickly people can become ensnared in wrong or illogical thinking when it prevails in their industry and is tied into their professional ethics. The TSA is probably another good example. A lot of professions have an us-against-the-world mentality, in the sense that no one who doesn't perform the job could ever have a sense of what it's like and is therefore incapable of really forming an opinion. I came into teaching with no preconceived ideas regarding zero-tolerance policy (and no education degree, so I hadn't been inculcated into the whole non-violence at all costs dogma), firmly embraced it while I was a teacher because co-workers and more experienced educators quickly paved the way for it be tied into my moral code and sense of protection over the small children I took care of - and then rejected it when I stopped teaching and took a step back because it made no sense, is wickedly counter-productive, and puts kids who should be in detention or even just given a few minutes to cool off with their backs against the recess fence...in jail.

But that said, Thunderboy, even though I largely agree with you, I do need to point out that sometimes they don't have a choice. It's not up to individual teachers to decide whether to enforce a policy that they will lose their jobs if they don't enforce, and even the administrators who set the policies have their hands tied by terrified and paranoid snowflake-parents. Tough situation.

Can't say I have the first idea what to really do about it.

I can understand that, and I never meant to suggest that it was the fault of teachers/administrators, because I know they are beholden to the school board and parents in general.

I'm single with no kids, so my perspective here is limited-to-irrelevant, but pretty much all of my friends are married and have wonderful children, and I really fear for their futures.

Where did this hyper-sensitive derp come from, anyway?  We've been surrounded by violence since forever, so that's not it.
 
2013-03-09 08:54:21 PM  
Give me a farking  break
 
2013-03-10 12:20:49 AM  

Thunderboy: I can understand that, and I never meant to suggest that it was the fault of teachers/administrators, because I know they are beholden to the school board and parents in general.


Yeah, and you're right that is a really uncreative and unintelligent policy and way of looking at the world. The media right-hand left-hand thing here is really bewildering to me - they report on stories like this with all the ourage in the world, without seeming to understand that these very policies are natural outcroppings of their own hysteria and fear-mongering.


I'm single with no kids, so my perspective here is limited-to-irrelevant, but pretty much all of my friends are married and have wonderful children, and I really fear for their futures.

Where did this hyper-sensitive derp come from, anyway?  We've been surrounded by violence since forever, so that's not it.



Media over-hype and hero worship of school shooters? Parents committed to raising each child like it's a second coming that should never ever feel pain or rejection? Either way, my generation will be the last generation with a real American childhood - playing outside, taking bike rides outside of our parent's earshot, heading off into the woods with a BB gun, being able to walk alone to the bus stop. And that is sad.
 
2013-03-10 12:32:45 AM  
Clearly we need to ban cupcakes.

Anything else?
 
2013-03-10 01:43:39 AM  

themasterdebater: Clearly we need to ban cupcakes.

Anything else?


TSA is already on it.

http://blog.tsa.gov/2012/01/cupcakegate.html
 
2013-03-10 05:52:33 AM  
Articles like this make me feel old. Really old. I wonder if this is how people felt when they watched people move from horse and buggies to cars, phones and television. I can't even comprehend what these kids are going to be like when they grow up. They're already like cultural aliens to me, and I'm not even middle aged.
 
2013-03-10 09:00:05 PM  

jbc: Mrbogey: This is what happens when we allow stupid people to proceed without being informed that they are incredibly stupid.

People have informed skullkrusher and stirfryby multiple times, but they are going to keep posting.


lots of lurkers getting uppity these days.
 
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