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(Yahoo)   The reaction of most South Koreans to North Korea's threats against them can be summed up thusly: Meh   (news.yahoo.com) divider line 46
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2013-03-09 08:38:09 AM  
When you have literally grown up under the constant specter of your neighbor to the north invading, what's one more round of threats?
 
2013-03-09 09:06:18 AM  
Further more, a threat that happens every few months, when Best Korea gets hungry again.
 
2013-03-09 10:03:10 AM  
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Eventually, the villagers stop responding.
 
2013-03-09 10:59:22 AM  

St_Francis_P: Further more, a threat that happens every few months, when Best Korea gets hungry again.


we should just send them over some chapagetti

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2013-03-09 11:37:08 AM  
Everyone knows that if North Korea tries anything, South Korea will just Zerg Rush them into submission.

/kekekekeke
 
2013-03-09 12:24:38 PM  
 
2013-03-09 03:44:13 PM  
South Korea animates Family Guy.

The Family Guy must flow.
 
2013-03-09 03:56:29 PM  
I recommend the book The Cleanest Race by B.R. Myers for more on North Korean rhetoric.

South Korea is perfectly happy just starving out North Korea. No aid, no invasion, just let them starve to death until China gets the flood of refugees. If they manage to reunite the country, great- some of them still have relatives up there- but they'll do so on their terms and are willing to wait however long it takes to do so in a relatively bloodless manner. Besides, restarting North Korea's infrastructure is going to cost $Texas and the place is going to be one giant East Berlin because of how far behind South Korea they are.
 
2013-03-09 04:01:46 PM  

make me some tea: Pretty much.

Stratfor assessment


That's pretty interesting.
 
2013-03-09 04:10:02 PM  

Kumana Wanalaia: South Korea animates Family Guy.

The Family Guy must flow.


i'm suprised you brought that up instead of Simpsons.  after all the SImpsons are america's longest running comedy
 
2013-03-09 04:11:06 PM  
They must need food or bunker oil again.

/More sanctions, please.
//So ronery.
 
2013-03-09 04:22:01 PM  

Gosling: I recommend the book The Cleanest Race by B.R. Myers for more on North Korean rhetoric.

South Korea is perfectly happy just starving out North Korea. No aid, no invasion, just let them starve to death until China gets the flood of refugees. If they manage to reunite the country, great- some of them still have relatives up there- but they'll do so on their terms and are willing to wait however long it takes to do so in a relatively bloodless manner. Besides, restarting North Korea's infrastructure is going to cost $Texas and the place is going to be one giant East Berlin because of how far behind South Korea they are.


My best guess is that North Korea would finally catch up after two generations of reunification, especially if South Korea imports their education program to the north. That's a large population of people that undoubtedly can do great things if they are granted the tools necessary to achieve greatness.
 
2013-03-09 04:35:04 PM  

Serious Black: Gosling: I recommend the book The Cleanest Race by B.R. Myers for more on North Korean rhetoric.

South Korea is perfectly happy just starving out North Korea. No aid, no invasion, just let them starve to death until China gets the flood of refugees. If they manage to reunite the country, great- some of them still have relatives up there- but they'll do so on their terms and are willing to wait however long it takes to do so in a relatively bloodless manner. Besides, restarting North Korea's infrastructure is going to cost $Texas and the place is going to be one giant East Berlin because of how far behind South Korea they are.

My best guess is that North Korea would finally catch up after two generations of reunification, especially if South Korea imports their education program to the north. That's a large population of people that undoubtedly can do great things if they are granted the tools necessary to achieve greatness.


First they'd have to be deprogrammed, due to the brainwashing they probably endure.

/I'm probably making things up.
//But really, it makes sense.
///Herp derp.
 
2013-03-09 04:38:18 PM  
S. Korea can probably take N. Korea in a war fairly easily even without help from the US.

And we would help.
 
2013-03-09 04:42:47 PM  

randomjsa: S. Korea can probably take N. Korea in a war fairly easily even without help from the US.

And we would help.


Yeah. It's even easier when you realize that their ruler is fat from all the food, that could be feeding Best Korea's population, being shoveled into his mouth.
 
2013-03-09 04:48:15 PM  

efgeise: randomjsa: S. Korea can probably take N. Korea in a war fairly easily even without help from the US.

And we would help.

Yeah. It's even easier when you realize that their ruler is fat from all the food, that could be feeding Best Korea's population, being shoveled into his mouth.


Dear Eater.
 
2013-03-09 04:59:57 PM  
Here's a theory: Kim Jong-Un, who isn't exactly unwise in the ways of the world (he was schooled in Switzerland, after all), and also knows that the leftover generals from Daddy Dearest's reign would gladly replace him with anyone else they could find if he gets too independent, is trying to find a way to bring his country into the 19th Century but also doesn't get him a bullet in his fat noggin.

What to do? Why, start a "war" with the rest of the world! Nothing would be better than to be invaded by China or So. Korea or Japan; Kim makes a token resistance with his half-starved troops, then negotiates a peace with whichever country makes him the best deal and settles down to be either a retired leader or co-ruler of the reunited Korean peninsula. He keeps his head and his power, his people get to eat real food again, his generals can all be executed, and best of all HE doesn't look bad to anyone.

After all, Kim Jong-Un hasn't really done anything bad, that the International Court can get him for; but by now he knows where all the top generals have buried the bodies. But if he wants to stay alive himself, he needs someone else to make the first move. Anyone? Bueller?
 
2013-03-09 05:02:50 PM  

Gyrfalcon: Here's a theory: Kim Jong-Un, who isn't exactly unwise in the ways of the world (he was schooled in Switzerland, after all), and also knows that the leftover generals from Daddy Dearest's reign would gladly replace him with anyone else they could find if he gets too independent, is trying to find a way to bring his country into the 19th Century but also doesn't get him a bullet in his fat noggin.

What to do? Why, start a "war" with the rest of the world! Nothing would be better than to be invaded by China or So. Korea or Japan; Kim makes a token resistance with his half-starved troops, then negotiates a peace with whichever country makes him the best deal and settles down to be either a retired leader or co-ruler of the reunited Korean peninsula. He keeps his head and his power, his people get to eat real food again, his generals can all be executed, and best of all HE doesn't look bad to anyone.

After all, Kim Jong-Un hasn't really done anything bad, that the International Court can get him for; but by now he knows where all the top generals have buried the bodies. But if he wants to stay alive himself, he needs someone else to make the first move. Anyone? Bueller?


That is an interesting theory, and one that I have thought. The problem is that, in my mind, if he didn't want to get glassed, he wouldn't be threatening nuclear devices. I feel that he should know that nothing draws the ire of the world like when you threaten weapons of mass destruction (other than actually using them, of course).
 
2013-03-09 05:47:41 PM  

HotIgneous Intruder: They must need food or bunker oil again.

/More sanctions, please.
//So ronery.


I have a theory.

These threats have nothing to do with food or oil.

They're the direct result of chronic, sporadic impotence running in the Kim family.
 
2013-03-09 06:09:17 PM  
The odds of dying from a North Korean bomb are probably smaller than being killed in a car accident.

With Korean drivers, this is especially true.

Also I hear that south korean dramas and Kpop are a hotly smuggled item for north koreans.  It must initially baffle them that south koreans look so much better off.  Then of course thoughts of defection enter their minds.
 
2013-03-09 06:58:46 PM  
They're just so adorably teeny!
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2013-03-09 07:09:07 PM  

Serious Black: My best guess is that North Korea would finally catch up after two generations of reunification


It'll take that long just to overcome the effects of malnutrition.

Given that the north has about half the population of the south, and not a whole lot to offer the rest of the global economy, a unified Korea means an immediate drop in per capita income of one-third. You'd need at least a decade just to recover from that (and probably more like two decades) - that's to get back to your starting point.

Meanwhile, every year there are fewer South Koreans who have any real emotional ties to relatives in the North.
 
2013-03-09 07:20:28 PM  

KarmicDisaster: efgeise: randomjsa: S. Korea can probably take N. Korea in a war fairly easily even without help from the US.

And we would help.

Yeah. It's even easier when you realize that their ruler is fat from all the food, that could be feeding Best Korea's population, being shoveled into his mouth.

Dear Eater.

www.soshichan.org
 
2013-03-09 07:30:19 PM  

Gyrfalcon: Here's a theory: Kim Jong-Un, who isn't exactly unwise in the ways of the world (he was schooled in Switzerland, after all), and also knows that the leftover generals from Daddy Dearest's reign would gladly replace him with anyone else they could find if he gets too independent, is trying to find a way to bring his country into the 19th Century but also doesn't get him a bullet in his fat noggin.

What to do? Why, start a "war" with the rest of the world! Nothing would be better than to be invaded by China or So. Korea or Japan; Kim makes a token resistance with his half-starved troops, then negotiates a peace with whichever country makes him the best deal and settles down to be either a retired leader or co-ruler of the reunited Korean peninsula. He keeps his head and his power, his people get to eat real food again, his generals can all be executed, and best of all HE doesn't look bad to anyone.

After all, Kim Jong-Un hasn't really done anything bad, that the International Court can get him for; but by now he knows where all the top generals have buried the bodies. But if he wants to stay alive himself, he needs someone else to make the first move. ?


Hasn't really done anything really bad. Except preside over concentration-internment-political prisoners' camps.
 
2013-03-09 07:43:59 PM  

make me some tea: Pretty much.

Stratfor assessment


Good stuff. Thanks!
 
2013-03-09 08:06:25 PM  
"Mr. President, we are now at a de facto state of war with the Russians."

the sum of all kim-chi's.
 
2013-03-09 08:36:59 PM  

make me some tea: Pretty much.

Stratfor assessment


What's a strat for?
 
2013-03-09 08:51:55 PM  

Kevin72: Gyrfalcon: Here's a theory: Kim Jong-Un, who isn't exactly unwise in the ways of the world (he was schooled in Switzerland, after all), and also knows that the leftover generals from Daddy Dearest's reign would gladly replace him with anyone else they could find if he gets too independent, is trying to find a way to bring his country into the 19th Century but also doesn't get him a bullet in his fat noggin.

What to do? Why, start a "war" with the rest of the world! Nothing would be better than to be invaded by China or So. Korea or Japan; Kim makes a token resistance with his half-starved troops, then negotiates a peace with whichever country makes him the best deal and settles down to be either a retired leader or co-ruler of the reunited Korean peninsula. He keeps his head and his power, his people get to eat real food again, his generals can all be executed, and best of all HE doesn't look bad to anyone.

After all, Kim Jong-Un hasn't really done anything bad, that the International Court can get him for; but by now he knows where all the top generals have buried the bodies. But if he wants to stay alive himself, he needs someone else to make the first move. ?

Hasn't really done anything really bad. Except preside over concentration-internment-political prisoners' camps.


Preside over them, yes. But I meant in terms of anything NEW. Something he didn't inherit. He can blame those on Daddy Dearest, you see.
 
2013-03-09 09:17:53 PM  

Gosling: I recommend the book The Cleanest Race by B.R. Myers for more on North Korean rhetoric.

South Korea is perfectly happy just starving out North Korea. No aid, no invasion, just let them starve to death until China gets the flood of refugees. If they manage to reunite the country, great- some of them still have relatives up there- but they'll do so on their terms and are willing to wait however long it takes to do so in a relatively bloodless manner. Besides, restarting North Korea's infrastructure is going to cost $Texas and the place is going to be one giant East Berlin because of how far behind South Korea they are.


I'd have to imagine most family ties have dried up by now. Direct connections on opposing sides have faded and the generations of North Koreans are completely different mindset wise.
 
2013-03-09 09:22:35 PM  
But why are we giving them bulldozers? I'm just asking questions here.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread927902/pg1
 
2013-03-09 09:50:08 PM  
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2013-03-09 09:52:14 PM  
Gyrefalcon I'm basically with you. But I found it cringeworthy to have to imagine Kim Jong Un to have to call his sperm donor "Daddy Dearest (Leader?)".
 
2013-03-09 09:53:53 PM  
Gyrfalcon:Here's a theory: Kim Jong-Un, who isn't exactly unwise in the ways of the world (he was schooled in Switzerland, after all), and also knows that the leftover generals from Daddy Dearest's reign would gladly replace him with anyone else they could find if he gets too independent, is trying to find a way to bring his country into the 19th Century but also doesn't get him a bullet in his fat noggin.

What to do? Why, start a "war" with the rest of the world! Nothing would be better than to be invaded by China or So. Korea or Japan; Kim makes a token resistance with his half-starved troops, then negotiates a peace with whichever country makes him the best deal and settles down to be either a retired leader or co-ruler of the reunited Korean peninsula. He keeps his head and his power, his people get to eat real food again, his generals can all be executed, and best of all HE doesn't look bad to anyone.


So, you're saying Un has read "The Mouse That Roared"?

/'The Mouse On Wall Street' had one of the best introductions to Economic Theory that I've ever read.
 
2013-03-09 09:54:34 PM  

Kevin72: Gyrefalcon I'm basically with you. But I found it cringeworthy to have to imagine Kim Jong Un to have to call his sperm donor "Daddy Dearest (Leader?)".


Sorry I meant Gyrfalcon
 
2013-03-09 10:04:24 PM  

Nicholas D. Wolfwood: Gyrfalcon:Here's a theory: Kim Jong-Un, who isn't exactly unwise in the ways of the world (he was schooled in Switzerland, after all), and also knows that the leftover generals from Daddy Dearest's reign would gladly replace him with anyone else they could find if he gets too independent, is trying to find a way to bring his country into the 19th Century but also doesn't get him a bullet in his fat noggin.

What to do? Why, start a "war" with the rest of the world! Nothing would be better than to be invaded by China or So. Korea or Japan; Kim makes a token resistance with his half-starved troops, then negotiates a peace with whichever country makes him the best deal and settles down to be either a retired leader or co-ruler of the reunited Korean peninsula. He keeps his head and his power, his people get to eat real food again, his generals can all be executed, and best of all HE doesn't look bad to anyone.

So, you're saying Un has read "The Mouse That Roared"?

/'The Mouse On Wall Street' had one of the best introductions to Economic Theory that I've ever read.


In the Mouse that Roared, the Duchy of Grand Fenwickians did actually have a Q-Bomb to threaten the world. Or so everyone thought, although in secret the bomb later proved to be a dud when it was set off by accident.  Maybe that is the part Un read.
 
2013-03-09 10:05:18 PM  
Um, "thusly" isn't really a word.  "THUS" is a word.

Yeah I know it makes some of you payrolled editor types made when this gets pointed out.
 
2013-03-09 10:10:27 PM  

MisterRonbo: Serious Black: My best guess is that North Korea would finally catch up after two generations of reunification

It'll take that long just to overcome the effects of malnutrition.

Given that the north has about half the population of the south, and not a whole lot to offer the rest of the global economy, a unified Korea means an immediate drop in per capita income of one-third. You'd need at least a decade just to recover from that (and probably more like two decades) - that's to get back to your starting point.

Meanwhile, every year there are fewer South Koreans who have any real emotional ties to relatives in the North.


German reunification threw the German economy into a decade-long recession, and East Germany was in way better shape than North Korea is.  And people from what is now eastern Germany still feel like second-class citizens.

So, yeah, if Korean unification takes place, it'll drag Korea down for decades.   My feeling is that the ultimate end of this is that Kim Jong Fattie gets overthrown in a military coup, and North Korea gets a new military government that is quite loyal to China.  If I were President Obama or Sec. Kerry at this point, I'd kind of casually mention how that probably wouldn't bother us too much if it happened.  And I think South Korea would be OK with it too.
 
2013-03-09 10:17:14 PM  

whidbey: Um, "thusly" isn't really a word.  "THUS" is a word.

Yeah I know it makes some of you payrolled editor types made when this gets pointed out.


U made bro?
 
2013-03-09 10:19:24 PM  

Evil High Priest: U made bro?


I'm a made man, what's the problem.

news.doddleme.com
 
2013-03-09 10:26:16 PM  
I can't figure out why nobody is interpreting Best Korea Threats as "Invade us already, we're farking starving over here."
 
2013-03-10 12:42:58 AM  

Gyrfalcon: Here's a theory: Kim Jong-Un, who isn't exactly unwise in the ways of the world (he was schooled in Switzerland, after all), and also knows that the leftover generals from Daddy Dearest's reign would gladly replace him with anyone else they could find if he gets too independent, is trying to find a way to bring his country into the 19th Century but also doesn't get him a bullet in his fat noggin.

What to do? Why, start a "war" with the rest of the world! Nothing would be better than to be invaded by China or So. Korea or Japan; Kim makes a token resistance with his half-starved troops, then negotiates a peace with whichever country makes him the best deal and settles down to be either a retired leader or co-ruler of the reunited Korean peninsula. He keeps his head and his power, his people get to eat real food again, his generals can all be executed, and best of all HE doesn't look bad to anyone.

After all, Kim Jong-Un hasn't really done anything bad, that the International Court can get him for; but by now he knows where all the top generals have buried the bodies. But if he wants to stay alive himself, he needs someone else to make the first move. Anyone? Bueller?


Some people might see "starting a war" as doing something bad.
 
2013-03-10 12:49:00 AM  
efgeise:

First they'd have to be deprogrammed, due to the brainwashing they probably endure.

From everything I've read and watched about NK, I suspect that this will be one of the single-most difficult tasks to complete should any reunification happen.

Whatever techniques Stalinist Russia employed to keep the people subservient, North Korea perfected.
 
2013-03-10 08:40:06 AM  
Best to just ignore them.
 
2013-03-10 10:23:26 AM  
The side with the most all girl kpop groups wins.
 
2013-03-10 03:17:12 PM  

Gosling: I recommend the book The Cleanest Race by B.R. Myers for more on North Korean rhetoric.


Here he is on C-Span giving a talk about NK
http://www.c-spanvideo.org/event/182765&timeline
 
2013-03-11 01:24:15 AM  

Gergesa: The odds of dying from a North Korean bomb are probably smaller than being killed in a car accident.

With Korean drivers, this is especially true.

Also I hear that south korean dramas and Kpop are a hotly smuggled item for north koreans.  It must initially baffle them that south koreans look so much better off.  Then of course thoughts of defection enter their minds.


When I first went to South Korea I was surprised when a motorcycle zoomed past me on the sidewalk.
 
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