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2013-03-09 01:56:00 PM
Is it me or does it look a whole lot like a V Star Custom?
 
2013-03-09 02:25:16 PM
It looks like every other im-a-badass-accountant, cheesy-rider bike made in the last 10 years.
 
2013-03-09 02:40:24 PM
"Goes"? Have they made anything other than retro-ish bikes using 50-year-old technology?
 
2013-03-09 02:40:28 PM
hard to tell apart from so many imports. upside: factory oil leak, too loud, shakes your 'roids loose.
 
2013-03-09 02:43:58 PM
Except for the price.

Nearly $18,000. You can get decent cars for that price. They won't be fancy cars, but they'll be decent.
 
2013-03-09 02:48:56 PM

Happy Hours: Except for the price.

Nearly $18,000. You can get decent cars for that price. They won't be fancy cars, but they'll be decent.


And you can stay a lot drier.
 
2013-03-09 02:57:22 PM
From Consumer Reports, the leading authorty on motorcycles....
 
2013-03-09 03:03:09 PM

KrispyKritter: hard to tell apart from so many imports. upside: factory oil leak, too loud, shakes your 'roids loose.


Counterbalanced motor in some models, rubber mounting in the rest, kills the majority of the vibration. You no longer have to check every fastener on the bike once a week. Since the Evo, the Big Twins have been about as oil-tight as anything else. They aren't particularly loud when they ship, but everyone fits aftermarket pipes with minimal-to-no baffles. The imports have done a pretty good job of imitating what Harley does, sometimes with better engineering, usually at a better price. Harley's paint and sheet metal are often a little nicer, but that's about it.
 
2013-03-09 03:33:02 PM
They need to put training wheels or something on that bike.  The average age of the lawyer during the week and biker on the weekend has to be 60.
 
2013-03-09 03:42:55 PM

natewill: It looks like every other im-a-badass-accountant, cheesy-rider bike made in the last 10 years.


This is one of my favorite episodes of South Park, for precisely that reason:

i723.photobucket.com
 
2013-03-09 03:52:15 PM

iStig: "Goes"? Have they made anything other than retro-ish bikes using 50-year-old technology?


There's the V-Rod:
www.motorbikestoday.com

H-D technology is actually pretty up to date, but they make a lot of retro-looking rides because, well, that's what people like.
 
2013-03-09 03:59:40 PM
I don't think they got the Harley logo quite right. They should have used this one:

derenart.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-03-09 04:24:28 PM
Life's too short to ride motorcycles.

/Great grandpa, a Harley dealer, died on a Harley.
//Grandpa rode
///Dad rode.
////I won't ever ride.
 
2013-03-09 04:38:05 PM
This reminds me - Did Paul Sr. finally die &/or did Jr. finally back off his self-entitled 'creative genius' stance?
 
2013-03-09 04:45:07 PM
Doesn't matter what kind of motorcycle you have, you're still bald.
 
2013-03-09 04:47:51 PM

MrEricSir: Doesn't matter what kind of motorcycle you have, you're still bald.


www.hairdirect.com

I was bald.
 
2013-03-09 05:05:33 PM
What, they're going to make a bike that's not for old fat guys?
 
2013-03-09 05:28:03 PM

ghare: What, they're going to make a bike that's not for old fat guys?


I'm an old fat guy and I ride a BMW.
 
2013-03-09 05:38:42 PM
So they've come out with a "new" vintage clothing line?
 
2013-03-09 05:40:18 PM

Craptastic: H-D technology is actually pretty up to date, but they make a lot of retro-looking rides because, well, that's what people like.


Apart from ABS, traction control, overhead cams and on most of the range water cooling?

Harley's are low tech old fanshioned bikes made for people who only care about the look of a bike and not how it rides.
 
2013-03-09 05:57:42 PM
Ridin' through this whirled ... all alone ... CROW FLIES STRAIGHT ... A PERFECT LINE ...
like your hair implants ... until you die.
 
2013-03-09 06:13:15 PM
I can has bike thread.

It was beautiful today so I got in about 75 miles between walking the dogs and running errands.


oneping.net

That's my Honda Shadow Phantom with a custom seat by Mustang, and from Cobra: a Slashdown Streetrod exhaust, Powerflo intake, and an FI2000R digital fuel tuner.
 
2013-03-09 06:27:25 PM

Craptastic: iStig: "Goes"? Have they made anything other than retro-ish bikes using 50-year-old technology?

There's the V-Rod:
[www.motorbikestoday.com image 800x570]

H-D technology is actually pretty up to date, but they make a lot of retro-looking rides because, well, that's what people like.


I was going to point out that a V-Max is a similar idea, and a bit faster. But then I looked at the current generation V-Max. Its MSRP is about $4000 more than the V-Rod's, amazingly enough, and this version of the V-Max's styling looks like a random pile of parts bolted to two wheels. Given that neither of these machines is giving you the most performance bang for your buck available, styling counts for something.
 
2013-03-09 06:40:38 PM

Kyosuke: So they've come out with a "new" vintage clothing line?


Yep.

Here it is...

farm4.staticflickr.com
 
2013-03-09 07:13:46 PM

natewill: It looks like every other im-a-badass-accountant, cheesy-rider bike made in the last 10 years.


^ ^ ^ ^
 
2013-03-09 07:43:12 PM

natewill: It looks like every other im-a-badass-accountant, cheesy-rider bike made in the last 10 years.


The term is "Chromosexual"
 
2013-03-09 08:21:34 PM

Happy Hours: Except for the price.

Nearly $18,000. You can get decent cars for that price. They won't be fancy cars, but they'll be decent.


yeah. For, what, ten grand you can get just about any triumph you want.
 
2013-03-09 08:33:44 PM
Cute.. but my dad rides a Harley that is 5 years old and looks almost exactly the same...

I grew up riding dirt bikes and four wheelers, never had a motor cycle. Thinking about getting one this spring/summer. There's a 2002 Yamaha R6 with 11,000 miles for sale around here for $3600. I'm tempted.. Any worries or horror stories?


www.newenglandpowersports.com
 
2013-03-09 08:39:20 PM
Harley's only doing this because Polaris Industries is coming out with the first Indian bikes manufactured in decades, like the Chief.

www.moto123.com
 
2013-03-09 09:05:35 PM

soopey: Cute.. but my dad rides a Harley that is 5 years old and looks almost exactly the same...

I grew up riding dirt bikes and four wheelers, never had a motor cycle. Thinking about getting one this spring/summer. There's a 2002 Yamaha R6 with 11,000 miles for sale around here for $3600. I'm tempted.. Any worries or horror stories?


[www.newenglandpowersports.com image 400x300]


Do wheel stands, preferably front, on your first ride. You should have no problems. Get insurance a week after you buy the bike.
Make sure to mount a GoPro on your helmet first.
You're welcome for the free advice.
 
2013-03-09 09:05:39 PM

minoridiot: Is it me or does it look a whole lot like a V Star Custom Raider?


www.motorcycle.com

And the MSRP is at least $3000 less
 
2013-03-09 09:16:38 PM

Craptastic: iStig: "Goes"? Have they made anything other than retro-ish bikes using 50-year-old technology?

There's the V-Rod:
[www.motorbikestoday.com image 800x570]

H-D technology is actually pretty up to date, but they make a lot of retro-looking rides because, well, that's what people like.


I agree that they have a bit of a problem trying to modernize without looking too modern, but IIRC, the V-Rod was designed by Porsche.
 
2013-03-09 09:17:31 PM
Engine was designed by Porsche.
 
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2013-03-09 09:18:50 PM

iStig: "Goes"? Have they made anything other than retro-ish bikes using 50-year-old technology?


THIS
 
NFA [TotalFark]
2013-03-09 09:21:34 PM

Craptastic: iStig: "Goes"? Have they made anything other than retro-ish bikes using 50-year-old technology?

There's the V-Rod:
[www.motorbikestoday.com image 800x570]

H-D technology is actually pretty up to date, but they make a lot of retro-looking rides because, well, that's what people like.


It's a V twin with piss poor suspension.  I'm still going with retro-technology.
 
2013-03-09 09:28:26 PM

TV's Vinnie: Harley's only doing this because Polaris Industries is coming out with the first Indian bikes manufactured in decades, like the Chief.

[www.moto123.com image 470x265]


Doing what? Putting black mufflers on what is more-or-less the same old Softail Standard they've been selling for most of the last 25 years?
 
2013-03-09 09:50:52 PM
And her I thought they'd actually one and done something interesting like a Dave Mann knockoff.
 
2013-03-09 09:54:49 PM

Where wolf: Happy Hours: Except for the price.

Nearly $18,000. You can get decent cars for that price. They won't be fancy cars, but they'll be decent.

yeah. For, what, ten grand you can get just about any triumph you want.


Yeah, I've known Harley's aren't cheap for quite a while, but when I grew up - and probably for decades before I was born people often bought motorcycles because they were cheaper because they had half as many wheels as a typical passenger car.

Now people buy motorcycles....because they want to risk their lives? Because they have great acceleration? Because they don't want to drive in a cage? Because they want to look cool?

Meh - if you want to drive a cycle, it's not really my business why. I don't ride a bike because I don't want to die. I've known too many bikers who have gotten into accidents for me to want to do it. Most of the accidents only resulted in minor injuries, but occasionally there have been accidents which resulted in lengthy hospital stays. And usually they haven't even been the fault of the person riding the bike (at least the way the accidents were described to me).

Just don't take your loud pipes through my neighborhood when I'm trying to sleep or relax at home, and I won't have a problem with you.
 
2013-03-09 09:59:58 PM

soopey: Cute.. but my dad rides a Harley that is 5 years old and looks almost exactly the same...

I grew up riding dirt bikes and four wheelers, never had a motor cycle. Thinking about getting one this spring/summer. There's a 2002 Yamaha R6 with 11,000 miles for sale around here for $3600. I'm tempted.. Any worries or horror stories?


[www.newenglandpowersports.com image 400x300]


I'm not current anymore on the foibles of every specific model year, but I give you some general advice. Tires. Check them first. A chicken strip (worn down the center, but not on the sides) is preferable for your purposes. If you see heavily worn scalloped edges proceed with caution. Are they premium or discount? Condition? Same with the chain and sprockets. Check the ends of the pegs and bar ends for scuffs. Most people wont replace the pegs after a drop. Check the color of the oil and brake fluid thru the inspection windows. Feel the brake discs for grooves. Check the fork seals and tubes for nicks etc. Rear shock as well. Check all the bodywork mounting bolts and grommets and make sure they all match. This stuff all costs good money and wears out faster then a car. I prefer a stock bike ALWAYS especially if it's a Japanese sport bike, but you're almost always dealing with a pipe and a power commander and aftermarket air filter. If everything else is clean and they have the stock parts sometimes you need to take the chance. Service records are nice as well, valve adjustments aren't cheap if it's shim under bucket, but they are infrequent. Remember, just tires and a chain and sprockets will run you big bucks if you buy quality. Bikes are cheap to buy, but expensive to keep in perfect running condition. Unless you have a hook up and a decent parts discount, it's ALWAYS better to spend more for better. i worked in a multi line dealership for ten years and I can't tell you how many bikes I got for almost nothing because the cost of repair at retail was more than the bike was worth but with parts at cost plus 10% discount and no labor I could flip for 5x what I paid.
 
2013-03-09 10:08:25 PM

drewogatory: soopey: Cute.. but my dad rides a Harley that is 5 years old and looks almost exactly the same...

I grew up riding dirt bikes and four wheelers, never had a motor cycle. Thinking about getting one this spring/summer. There's a 2002 Yamaha R6 with 11,000 miles for sale around here for $3600. I'm tempted.. Any worries or horror stories?


[www.newenglandpowersports.com image 400x300]

I'm not current anymore on the foibles of every specific model year, but I give you some general advice. Tires. Check them first. A chicken strip (worn down the center, but not on the sides) is preferable for your purposes. If you see heavily worn scalloped edges proceed with caution. Are they premium or discount? Condition? Same with the chain and sprockets. Check the ends of the pegs and bar ends for scuffs. Most people wont replace the pegs after a drop. Check the color of the oil and brake fluid thru the inspection windows. Feel the brake discs for grooves. Check the fork seals and tubes for nicks etc. Rear shock as well. Check all the bodywork mounting bolts and grommets and make sure they all match. This stuff all costs good money and wears out faster then a car. I prefer a stock bike ALWAYS especially if it's a Japanese sport bike, but you're almost always dealing with a pipe and a power commander and aftermarket air filter. If everything else is clean and they have the stock parts sometimes you need to take the chance. Service records are nice as well, valve adjustments aren't cheap if it's shim under bucket, but they are infrequent. Remember, just tires and a chain and sprockets will run you big bucks if you buy quality. Bikes are cheap to buy, but expensive to keep in perfect running condition. Unless you have a hook up and a decent parts discount, it's ALWAYS better to spend more for better. i worked in a multi line dealership for ten years and I can't tell you how many bikes I got for almost nothing because the cost of repair at retail was more than the bike was worth but ...

What is this "chain" you speak of?
 
2013-03-09 10:20:26 PM

drewogatory: soopey: Cute.. but my dad rides a Harley that is 5 years old and looks almost exactly the same...

I grew up riding dirt bikes and four wheelers, never had a motor cycle. Thinking about getting one this spring/summer. There's a 2002 Yamaha R6 with 11,000 miles for sale around here for $3600. I'm tempted.. Any worries or horror stories?


[www.newenglandpowersports.com image 400x300]

I'm not current anymore on the foibles of every specific model year, but I give you some general advice. Tires. Check them first. A chicken strip (worn down the center, but not on the sides) is preferable for your purposes. If you see heavily worn scalloped edges proceed with caution. Are they premium or discount? Condition? Same with the chain and sprockets. Check the ends of the pegs and bar ends for scuffs. Most people wont replace the pegs after a drop. Check the color of the oil and brake fluid thru the inspection windows. Feel the brake discs for grooves. Check the fork seals and tubes for nicks etc. Rear shock as well. Check all the bodywork mounting bolts and grommets and make sure they all match. This stuff all costs good money and wears out faster then a car. I prefer a stock bike ALWAYS especially if it's a Japanese sport bike, but you're almost always dealing with a pipe and a power commander and aftermarket air filter. If everything else is clean and they have the stock parts sometimes you need to take the chance. Service records are nice as well, valve adjustments aren't cheap if it's shim under bucket, but they are infrequent. Remember, just tires and a chain and sprockets will run you big bucks if you buy quality. Bikes are cheap to buy, but expensive to keep in perfect running condition. Unless you have a hook up and a decent parts discount, it's ALWAYS better to spend more for better. i worked in a multi line dealership for ten years and I can't tell you how many bikes I got for almost nothing because the cost of repair at retail was more than the bike was worth but ...


Another bit of advice. If you don't have much recent experience, or any, maybe you shouldn't look to get  into motorcycling with a 600 sportbike. A 2002 R6 makes 120 hp in a bike weighing under 400 lbs. You won't see all of that if you're careful with your throttle hand, but one mistake and your front end will be in the air as it takes off like a rocket. That's only fun when you meant to do it.
 
2013-03-09 10:20:45 PM
What is this "chain" you speak of?

I'm tempted to bite, but I'm a huge (by my standards, not airhead guy standards, mind) BMW airhead guy, I shall not talk shiat about a drive shaft.
 
2013-03-09 10:24:43 PM

soopey: I grew up riding dirt bikes and four wheelers, never had a motor cycle. Thinking about getting one this spring/summer. There's a 2002 Yamaha R6 with 11,000 miles for sale around here for $3600. I'm tempted.. Any worries or horror stories?


You'll shoot your eye out.
 
2013-03-09 10:26:28 PM

CptnSpldng: Happy Hours: Except for the price.

Nearly $18,000. You can get decent cars for that price. They won't be fancy cars, but they'll be decent.

And you can stay a lot drier.


And less dead.
 
2013-03-09 10:35:20 PM
ut one mistake and your front end will be in the air

Dude said he grew up riding dirt bikes. How seriously I don't know, but in my experience those are the guys that do ok. It's the guys whose ego wont let them buy a bike appropriate to their abilities that are the problem. What do I know though, my first street bike (at 15) was a Kawi H2 with a shaved head and chambers. I can't even count the number of times I thought I'd killed myself on that beast (relative beast, it's a joke by todays standards).
 
2013-03-09 10:47:08 PM

drewogatory: I'm not current anymore on the foibles of every specific model year, but I give you some general advice.


Thanks for the advice. I'll definitely look at it with a fine eye instead of saying, "oohhh.. shiny." Worse comes to worse I'll ask my father to come check it out with me. He's a mechanic and he's been around bikes and cars all his life.

forgotmydamnusername: Another bit of advice. If you don't have much recent experience, or any, maybe you shouldn't look to get into motorcycling with a 600 sportbike. A 2002 R6 makes 120 hp in a bike weighing under 400 lbs. You won't see all of that if you're careful with your throttle hand, but one mistake and your front end will be in the air as it takes off like a rocket. That's only fun when you meant to do it.


Thanks. I'd like to go a bit smaller but no one makes a bike in between a moped (Honda makes a CBR250 cc with a top speed of 70 mph) and a sport bike (600CC with a top speed of 100+) anymore. I was a casual dirt bike rider that never dumped one. Rode 125's mostly. Small jumps (<20 ft) and trail riding in the woods mostly. Did way more stupid things on a mountain bike.

Definitely need to take a riders course as it's the easy way to get a license here in MA plus it'll be a good re-introduction to staying alive on two wheels.
 
2013-03-09 10:50:26 PM
hate the exhaust
 
2013-03-09 10:51:38 PM

drewogatory: What is this "chain" you speak of?

I'm tempted to bite, but I'm a huge (by my standards, not airhead guy standards, mind) BMW airhead guy, I shall not talk shiat about a drive shaft.


Pretty sure he's trying to say most bikes nowadays have a belt instead of a chain.

As for the bike itself, meh. The 883 Sportster I have now will likely be the last Harley I own unless I magically win the lottery. Too much out there that's just as good if not better for half the price. Only reason I got the sporty I ride now is that someone I know was selling it cheap.
 
2013-03-09 10:52:47 PM
Thanks. I'd like to go a bit smaller but no one makes a bike in between a moped (Honda makes a CBR250 cc with a top speed of 70 mph) and a sport bike (600CC with a top speed of 100+) anymore.

Ninja 250. Any 500-650cc twin. Ducati Monster or new Triumph twin. 450cc Street Moto. 600-650 enduro's. BMW FS800. There are a bunch if you look. I'm a huge fan of 600 enduros which are always cheap and cheap to run. Riding a slow bike fast is 1000x as fun as riding aq fast bike slow, don't believe anyone that tells you different.
 
2013-03-09 11:07:50 PM

TheShavingofOccam123: I don't think they got the Harley logo quite right. They should have used this one:

[derenart.files.wordpress.com image 391x293]


You have no idea how right you are.  Check out their amazing new paint idea for 2013: http://www.harley-davidson.com/en_US/Content/Pages/dark-custom/hard-c a ndy-custom.html
 
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