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(The Atlantic)   Woe rich white kids, failure haunts them like an ill-willed specter. Bereft of any authentic sense of self they are left vulnerable to the rapacious wolves of expectation and soon find their succor in the alabaster arms of Lady Oxycontin   (theatlantic.com) divider line 143
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2013-03-09 04:13:46 AM  
They just want to be Deaf Jam, yo!
 
2013-03-09 09:01:54 AM  
i.imgur.com


There is a higher percentage of wealth in Asians.
Hindus have have 43 percent earning over $100,000.
Jews (White) have 46 percent earning over $100,000
No other groups even reach the 30 percent mark, and the US average is 18 percent.

The majority of poor people in the U.S. are White.

Explain why this article is about "rich white kids?"
 
2013-03-09 09:18:10 AM  

people: Explain why this article is about "rich white kids?"


The article headline? "The Existential Pain of Being Young, White, and Affluent"
 
2013-03-09 09:20:00 AM  
Don't judge Tagg until you've been driven a mile in Tagg's Bentley
 
2013-03-09 09:25:55 AM  

edmo: people: Explain why this article is about "rich white kids?"

The article headline? "The Existential Pain of Being Young, White, and Affluent"


Seems peculiar to limit it to "rich white kids."
 
2013-03-09 10:36:55 AM  
Romero poetry.

/subby is saint
 
2013-03-09 10:46:53 AM  
Left out the menu at the top.

i.imgur.com
 
2013-03-09 11:16:09 AM  
Aww. Poor, poor rich white kids. They're so oppressed and violated by society at large. When will someone stand up for their civil rights and privileges! Reverse racism is so, so common now! How shameful it is that our country has lost so much of it's moral guidance that poor, rich white kids might have to work for a living!

/yes. People actually think this.
 
2013-03-09 11:27:08 AM  

people: Left out the menu at the top.

[i.imgur.com image 523x550]


Ok, that makes more sense now.
 
2013-03-09 11:30:38 AM  
In my X's case I called it anticipatory joy. The Next Thing she was going to do would be perfect. When it turned into real life the depressions were gold medal quality.
 
2013-03-09 11:31:04 AM  
Whoever wrote the headline should get a medal.
 
2013-03-09 11:33:00 AM  
this immediately came to mind.

Kroll show

"Rich Dicks"
 
2013-03-09 11:33:19 AM  

hardinparamedic: /yes. People actually think this.


 ... no words ...
 
2013-03-09 11:34:38 AM  

medieval: Whoever wrote the headline should get a medal.


Real poets don't need a medal.

/only our tears comfort us.
 
2013-03-09 11:35:46 AM  
Don't worry, when you can no longer afford oxy, there is always heroin.
 
2013-03-09 11:39:31 AM  

hardinparamedic: Aww. Poor, poor rich white kids. They're so oppressed and violated by society at large. When will someone stand up for their civil rights and privileges! Reverse racism is so, so common now! How shameful it is that our country has lost so much of it's moral guidance that poor, rich white kids might have to work for a living!

/yes. People actually think this.



But I've been told such people are freethinkers, and champions of reason.
 
2013-03-09 11:40:07 AM  
There is nothing more interesting to me but to hear about how many problems rich people have.  Out of everything from political gridlock, deaths in wars, famine, oppression,  disease and crime what always sticks out are the minor problems of the rich and famous.
 
2013-03-09 11:41:15 AM  

hardinparamedic: Aww. Poor, poor rich white kids. They're so oppressed and violated by society at large. When will someone stand up for their civil rights and privileges! Reverse racism is so, so common now! How shameful it is that our country has lost so much of it's moral guidance that poor, rich white kids might have to work for a living!

/yes. People actually think this.


Ah, fighting tard with tard.
 
2013-03-09 11:42:54 AM  
White kids: public health crisis

Black kids: lock 'em up
 
2013-03-09 11:43:50 AM  
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2013-03-09 11:44:20 AM  

LarryDan43: Don't worry, when you can no longer afford oxy, there is always heroin.


You got to keep to prescription pills or booze if you want to stay respectable.

Otherwise, you may as well be huffing gasoline and wearing nothing but a trash bag.
 
2013-03-09 11:44:55 AM  

PumpkinCake: medieval: Whoever wrote the headline should get a medal.

Real poets don't need a medal.

/only our tears comfort us.


Oh, barf.
 
2013-03-09 11:45:51 AM  
Subby gave Bill Shakespeare a chubby.

/Headline of the year.
 
2013-03-09 11:47:48 AM  
having lots of money and little to do can lead to trouble.  more at 11
 
2013-03-09 11:48:38 AM  

Summer Glau's Love Slave: Subby gave Bill Shakespeare a chubby.

/Headline of the year.


Amen! HOTY material for sure.
 
2013-03-09 11:50:27 AM  
Feh. Their parents can send them to some resort for treatment. They probably had someone else raise the little shiat anyway, just throw more money at that problem.
 
2013-03-09 11:53:32 AM  

people: Explain why this article is about "rich white kids?"


Because unlike some cultures where people have a strong identity, well-to-do suburban white kids have virtually no guiding philosophy aside from what capitalism rewards you with.  There's morality in a ' do no harm' sense, but otherwise they're without any internal motivation.
 
2013-03-09 11:54:43 AM  
*Taps sympathy meter*

Nope. Still no reading
 
2013-03-09 11:55:01 AM  
The drug lecture should start with, "Kids, here's a six-pack and bag of weed. Go crazy, but not too crazy.
Pills are for when you're sick. If you take them when you're not in pain, then later, when you are in pain, they will not help at all."


BTW: the Atlantic Magazine, I can write without unnecessary aprostrophe's or "quotation marks."
Call me @ Bathsalt Acres  555-555-7777
 
2013-03-09 11:55:16 AM  

Riche: LarryDan43: Don't worry, when you can no longer afford oxy, there is always heroin.

You got to keep to prescription pills or booze if you want to stay respectable.

Otherwise, you may as well be huffing gasoline and wearing nothing but a trash bag.


Oxy is the cocaine to heroin's crack.
 
2013-03-09 11:55:25 AM  
So even if you every advantage you can still fark it up.

Good to know.
 
2013-03-09 11:55:38 AM  
I suppose for some kids, the realization that their life has no real meaning, and that they are not prepared at all for the world as it exists, would cause some pain.

Personally, I suggest a part-time job, builds charater, it did in my case....[apologies to Dan Ackroyd]

One has to wonder how many first place trophies he's got just for finishing? - after all, everyone is a winner, right?
 
2013-03-09 11:58:33 AM  
Suckers in TFA should've just been raised on a steady diet of Ritalin and anti-depressants like this white, middle class kid.
 
2013-03-09 12:01:02 PM  

bmwericus: Personally, I suggest a part-time job, builds charater, it did in my case....[apologies to Dan Ackroyd]


People with part-time jobs don't get depressed?  "I'm filled existential dread, but at least there's waitressing."
 
2013-03-09 12:04:06 PM  

MaliFinn: people: Explain why this article is about "rich white kids?"

Because unlike some cultures where people have a strong identity, well-to-do suburban white kids have virtually no guiding philosophy aside from what capitalism rewards you with.  There's morality in a ' do no harm' sense, but otherwise they're without any internal motivation.



I've been wondering for some time how this will affect the US when it eventually becomes the norm.  Right now we're coasting on leftover philosophies and morals from the past, but they are fading away fast.  What will the country look like when it becomes normal to have "virtually no guiding philosophy," and the majority of people are "without any internal motivation"?

Any sociologists or anthropologists in the house want to help tackle that question?
 
2013-03-09 12:07:19 PM  
users.planetmadtv.com

They're pretty and they're white
 
2013-03-09 12:09:04 PM  
This article is well-written and fairly true. I blame the parents for telling the kids they can "be anything" and "do anything they want". Stop raising your kid in La-la land and maybe they will be able to cope when they are out in the real world where failure and loss are common. Stop putting your hyper kid on 3 kinds of ritalin meds and teach them to deal with life or face consequences. Stop giving them any and everything they want, make them earn things with real work. I could go on and on...
 
2013-03-09 12:15:09 PM  

people: Left out the menu at the top.

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Thanks, that's much better, but -

1) Where did that come from
2) What period of time is it for
 
2013-03-09 12:16:41 PM  
Not going to be popular here on fark, but I believe church attendance, a part-time job, maybe sports, and judicial use of corporal punishment would go a long way to getting these kids out of their funk. I've seen what coddling, no expectations, no punishment for failure, and no guidance do first hand to my now-grown god-children. These kids slept in their mom's bed until well after they were teenagers and could read and write before being weened. It's basically a form of a child abuse and they just don't understand why some of their peers are succeeding while they aren't. They are completely unprepared for life and it's a terrible shame.
 
2013-03-09 12:17:45 PM  
If his parents didn't notice he was using again until they found the syringes in the trash, then why was it such a problem? It's only because it's illegally obtained (it seems to me).
 
2013-03-09 12:21:18 PM  

GilRuiz1: MaliFinn: people: Explain why this article is about "rich white kids?"

Because unlike some cultures where people have a strong identity, well-to-do suburban white kids have virtually no guiding philosophy aside from what capitalism rewards you with.  There's morality in a ' do no harm' sense, but otherwise they're without any internal motivation.


I've been wondering for some time how this will affect the US when it eventually becomes the norm.  Right now we're coasting on leftover philosophies and morals from the past, but they are fading away fast.  What will the country look like when it becomes normal to have "virtually no guiding philosophy," and the majority of people are "without any internal motivation"?

Any sociologists or anthropologists in the house want to help tackle that question?


This is my primary complaint about politicians. They are more concerned with self-preservation and party dominance than they are building anything that lasts longer than a single political cycle.  It's time to reinvent what it means to be an American so that we can be proud to be Americans.  People don't long for the conservative days of the 50's, they long for the feeling of national pride and community that we had post-ww2.  One simple bipartisan "buy American" campaign putting national interest ahead of personal benefit would make a huge difference.

Unfortunately, the people in this article - the white suburban privileged with no guidance - are EXACTLY the people in power and you can't make nothing from nothing.
 
2013-03-09 12:24:03 PM  
Evan had just gotten his wisdom teeth removed. He had been prescribed twenty 7.5 hydrocodone's and had taken his first two

It's just wisdom teeth.  Yeesh, kid.  You don't need oxy.
 
2013-03-09 12:32:52 PM  
I once had the unpleasantness of having a recreational vicodin user in my house.  He casually popped vicodin and expressed an attitude of 'there's absolutely nothing wrong with this...there's something wrong with you to question it'.  And it wasn't that the person was unpleasant in his behavior, it was just disturbing to watch a person feed an addiction so defenselessly.  I feel the same way when I see young cigarette smokers, still in their 'this is cool' stage.
 
2013-03-09 12:32:57 PM  
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Approves this thread.
 
2013-03-09 12:41:10 PM  
if oxycontin is so bad, why do they make it?

why don't they prescribe kratom?
 
2013-03-09 12:42:14 PM  

WhoopAssWayne: Not going to be popular here on fark, but I believe church attendance, a part-time job, maybe sports, and judicial use of corporal punishment would go a long way to getting these kids out of their funk. I've seen what coddling, no expectations, no punishment for failure, and no guidance do first hand to my now-grown god-children. These kids slept in their mom's bed until well after they were teenagers and could read and write before being weened. It's basically a form of a child abuse and they just don't understand why some of their peers are succeeding while they aren't. They are completely unprepared for life and it's a terrible shame.


That isn't coddling.  That's Norman Bates style parenting.
 
Boe
2013-03-09 12:44:21 PM  

Rapmaster2000: Evan had just gotten his wisdom teeth removed. He had been prescribed twenty 7.5 hydrocodone's and had taken his first two

It's just wisdom teeth.  Yeesh, kid.  You don't need oxy.


Seriously.  I had a herniated disc a while back and one of the prescriptions my doctor gave me was for hydrocodone.  40 pills. I used 3.  A few months later I went back for another condition that had some minor associated pain, and my doctor started writing out another prescription for 40 hydrocodone.   I had to point out to her that I had previously filled a prescription for it and had hardly used any of it.  She kept writing because she said it's potency can wear off if the prescription is old.  I told her, no, I got them 3 months ago.  I didn't even need any because the pain wasn't that bad.

I am certain that an enormous part of the problem is doctors are willing to hand that shiat out like candy.
 
2013-03-09 12:45:05 PM  
I'm 24. I know many people who fit the millennial stereotype to a tee, and many more that don't. I'm well aware of how destructive overcoddling and lack of appropriate boundaries can be on one's sense of worth, ambition, and soul. What I'm wondering is if the millennial stereotype is truly an unprecedented development. Is our generation truly turning out more "defective" 20-somethings at a higher rate than every generation before us, or is it simply an overblown stereotype? I'm genuinely curious.
 
2013-03-09 12:45:45 PM  

people: [i.imgur.com image 523x472]


There is a higher percentage of wealth in Asians.
Hindus have have 43 percent earning over $100,000.
Jews (White) have 46 percent earning over $100,000
No other groups even reach the 30 percent mark, and the US average is 18 percent.

The majority of poor people in the U.S. are White.

Explain why this article is about "rich white kids?"


I wonder what it is that puts the Hindus and Jews significantly higher (15%!) than any other groups. Cultural values? Religious values? It's really strange (though not that surprising I guess) to see these two relatively small groups in the USA have such success here.

/I blame the Hinjews
 
2013-03-09 12:45:56 PM  
I'm not rich, but I am white, and i do enjoy a Viking every now and then. That is, a Vicodin with a glass of whiskey.
 
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