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(CBS News)   Brain damage found in college football players who didn't suffer concussions. Conclusion reached after detailed study of Pac-12 grade point averages   (cbsnews.com) divider line 27
    More: Scary, football, concussion, University of Rochester Medical Center, Junior Seau, NYU Langone Medical Center, traumatic injury, NFL  
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2013-03-09 11:22:27 AM
The problem is, according to a peds neurologist who spoke at a conference I attended in December, that many concussions are going unnoticed, and minor head trauma over time adds up majorly in the long run. Guy gets a stinger, gets dizzy or feels fuzzy for a few seconds or a minute, and goes right back in after getting up

It doesn't take a Grade III Concussion to fark someone up, either.

The US army has been leading research into TBI for several years now for obvious reasons, and has objectively shown a decrease in cognitive thought and reasoning skills with even "minor" concussions using the SCAT and SCORE test criteria.
 
2013-03-09 11:29:10 AM
This still doesn't explain Manti Te'o.
 
2013-03-09 11:31:09 AM

L.D. Ablo: This still doesn't explain Manti Te'o.


Never attribute to disease or conspiracy what can adequately be explained by stupidity.
 
2013-03-09 11:55:48 AM
Psh I've had hundreds of concussions and I turned out concussion.

Not to mention all the concussions.
 
2013-03-09 12:11:06 PM
Not really surprising.  Soccer players show this same thing.  I've played goalkeep in a rec league for the last four years.  I'm 36, the rest of the team is in their twenties.  I'm always chiding my defenders not to head long balls.  It's just not worth it.  I'd rather possibly give up a goal in a rec league than have them suffer brain damage.  But 20 year old men don't worry about that sort of thing.  It's something civilization has depended on for millenia.
 
2013-03-09 12:40:51 PM
It's not about single big hits, it's about the constant tiny hits of your brain against your skull on almost every play, if you're a lineman.  Repeated minor traumas add up.
 
2013-03-09 12:48:12 PM

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: It's not about single big hits, it's about the constant tiny hits of your brain against your skull on almost every play, if you're a lineman.  Repeated minor traumas add up.


So at what point do we declare any sport where objects contact the head repeatedly as unsafe and uninsurable and outlaw them forever?

Think of the children.
 
2013-03-09 01:20:24 PM

FLMountainMan: Not really surprising.  Soccer players show this same thing.  I've played goalkeep in a rec league for the last four years.  I'm 36, the rest of the team is in their twenties.  I'm always chiding my defenders not to head long balls.  It's just not worth it.  I'd rather possibly give up a goal in a rec league than have them suffer brain damage.  But 20 year old men don't worry about that sort of thing.  It's something civilization has depended on for millenia.


It also explains the economies and political lives of any number of nations.
 
2013-03-09 01:25:24 PM
Subby spelled "SEC" wrong.
 
2013-03-09 01:36:41 PM

Your Average Witty Fark User: Subby spelled "SEC" wrong.


Yup. Has subby ever heard of Stanford and Cal?
 
2013-03-09 01:37:39 PM

FLMountainMan: Not really surprising.  Soccer players show this same thing.  I've played goalkeep in a rec league for the last four years.  I'm 36, the rest of the team is in their twenties.  I'm always chiding my defenders not to head long balls.  It's just not worth it.  I'd rather possibly give up a goal in a rec league than have them suffer brain damage.  But 20 year old men don't worry about that sort of thing.  It's something civilization has depended on for millenia.


Yes, I can't believe this is news.  During my two years playing HS football, I can think of dozens of times where I "got my bell rung," but never had a concussion (I would later find out what a "real" concussion was like).  What amused me to no end was that this was during the era of the birth of the soccer mom, and I would always hear the MILFs talking about how football was so violent and that little Johnny would never get hurt playing soccer.

Meanwhile, Johnny just missed a header and clunked skulls with someone else running at full speed, or little Johnny just fell face first on the ground without catching himself.
 
2013-03-09 01:38:26 PM

hardinparamedic: L.D. Ablo: This still doesn't explain Manti Te'o.

Never attribute to disease or conspiracy what can adequately be explained by stupidity ghey.


FTFY
 
2013-03-09 02:19:24 PM

andychrist420: Your Average Witty Fark User: Subby spelled "SEC" wrong.

Yup. Has subby ever heard of Stanford and Cal?


WSU drags down the average
 
2013-03-09 02:29:18 PM

whither_apophis: andychrist420: Your Average Witty Fark User: Subby spelled "SEC" wrong.

Yup. Has subby ever heard of Stanford and Cal?

WSU drags down the average


WSU is farking ivy league compared to ASU. But UCLA,Sc,cal, and Stanford are great schools. Cal residents who can't get in then go to UC Tempe.
 
2013-03-09 03:09:39 PM

whizbangthedirtfarmer: Yes, I can't believe this is news.  During my two years playing HS football, I can think of dozens of times where I "got my bell rung," but never had a concussion (I would later find out what a "real" concussion was like).


What's kind of news is that they can test for subconcussions now, and see that they still leave physically measurable aftereffects six months later.  I'm pretty sure that part actually is new.
 
2013-03-09 03:28:03 PM
The same conclusion could have been drawn from studying Pac-12 refs.
 
2013-03-09 03:35:38 PM
Oh come on, you get like six freebies.
 
2013-03-09 05:02:49 PM
This does not suplise me...
 
2013-03-09 05:16:20 PM
Couldn't the football players just headbutt the researchers until they come up with the opposite conclusion?
 
2013-03-09 05:51:39 PM

ScouserDuck: Cal residents who can't get in then go to UC Tempe.


CSU Tempe-- You give the biggest community college west of Ohio State too much credit.

/great parties though
 
2013-03-09 06:29:19 PM

FLMountainMan: Not really surprising.  Soccer players show this same thing.  I've played goalkeep in a rec league for the last four years.  I'm 36, the rest of the team is in their twenties.  I'm always chiding my defenders not to head long balls.  It's just not worth it.  I'd rather possibly give up a goal in a rec league than have them suffer brain damage.  But 20 year old men don't worry about that sort of thing.  It's something civilization has depended on for millenia.


Jeff Astle would agree with you. And he was from the leather ball days.
 
2013-03-09 07:29:56 PM
We are looking at the beginning of the end of American football as it is currently known.

\srs
 
2013-03-09 08:13:55 PM

bronyaur1: We are looking at the beginning of the end of American football as it is currently known.

\srs


Soon enough it's gonna look like this:

mimg.ugo.com
 
2013-03-09 09:07:12 PM
I think it's a no-brainer(hehe) that if, I said IF, football hits can cause brain injury then damage is starting in high school.   So college concussions might be a warning sign, but shouldn't be considered the starting point. I think a concussion just marks the point where you can stop pretending like nothing is happening since now everyone can see it.
 
2013-03-10 04:17:08 AM

andychrist420: Your Average Witty Fark User: Subby spelled "SEC" wrong.

Yup. Has subby ever heard of Stanford and Cal?


Both of those.

I have to assume picking on the SEC was too obvious so subby went with the troll.
 
2013-03-10 11:11:18 AM
This isn't the first study to come to this conclusion.  I forget where, but there was a study of high school kids that found the same thing.

Like the tobacco industry, schools will no longer be able to plausibly claim ignorance.  Therefore, I think we'll see a few high profile lawsuits now that these studies are available - if schools continue to allow kids to get brain damage, they will be liable.  This will probably happen at the Jr High/High school level first; there's so much money in college football that they will be able to tie it up in court for a while.
 
2013-03-10 07:35:52 PM
Washington is a pretty good school, too. Too bad it breeds Husky fans. ;)
 
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