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(Tumblr)   Nine Inch Nail's The Downward Spiral was released 19 years ago, here is the story behind the making of the infamous Closer video (some parts are Not safe for work)   (nineinchnails.tumblr.com) divider line 78
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2013-03-09 12:12:47 AM
This was one of the albums that defined me from an early age. Still love it today.
 
2013-03-09 12:21:42 AM
Vid is NSFW, forgot to add that, shouldn't have to, but yeah.
 
2013-03-09 12:35:16 AM

marius2: This was one of the albums that defined me from an early age. Still love it today.


Broken was my mine. but yeah PHM to Fragile remain in regular rotation to this day.
 
2013-03-09 12:41:06 AM
I was alive when Broken and PHM came out, just not enough to appreciate them in their prime, so it was Spiral and Fragile which really brought me out, Broken and PHM are still in my top 20 of all time though. PHM is within the top 5 even.
 
2013-03-09 12:58:50 AM
Still fantastic.

On the other hand, Pretty Hate Machine has not aged well.
 
2013-03-09 01:30:03 AM
I feel old.
 
2013-03-09 02:40:52 AM

Rev.K: Still fantastic.

On the other hand, Pretty Hate Machine has not aged well.


WHAT?

Dude... Just .. No. PHM is an absolute work of art and beyond critique.

/Bought Trent lunch at Perkins on Short Vine in Clifton back when he could not afford his own food... during the PHM tour.
 
2013-03-09 03:20:12 AM
Pretty Hate Machine still stands up, in my opinion. Excellent album, although not my favorite NIN work (I always liked Broken better). The problem I think is that many people feel we as a society have "out-grown" Industrial, which may be the case for most of the genre. But NIN transcend the mundane works of most Industrial bands. NIN isn't just techno-metal noise, I would go so far as to say the music Trent Reznor has written will stand the test of time like other visionaries of Rock: Dylan, Led Zeppelin, The Beatles, etc.

Trent Reznor is a genius, and PHM still rocks.
 
2013-03-09 05:05:29 AM
Trent Reznor simply likes melody more than his genre-buddies. His stuff stands out because it actually has song structure, melody, and excellent production and mixing.(*)

(*: analysis not valid for his new How To Destroy Angels project album with his wife. Jeez, what a boring bleep-fest).
 
2013-03-09 07:59:23 AM
Fantastic video. Good find, subby
 
2013-03-09 08:06:30 AM
Downward Spiral and Further Down the Spiral are two albums that I always, always, always put onto every new MP3 player,and now every phone I get. I must have listened to these albums a thousand times each, maybe even more.

/I actually hated PHM when I first heard it, and it's still not among my favourite NIN works, but my love of TDS and FDTS brought me around to appreciating PHM.
 
2013-03-09 08:14:46 AM
"We've gotta have the anal balls...it's not gonna look good without the anal balls."

LOL
 
2013-03-09 08:22:24 AM
Anyone who was conceived while "Closer" played can now vote.
 
2013-03-09 08:26:32 AM
I can't remember how many times I've heard "Closer" at the strip club.
 
2013-03-09 08:33:35 AM
From 1994-1996 I spent  a ton of time inside L.A. industrial-goth clubs.  There was a woman (married) who used to make out with me on the dance floor while Closer was playing every week at Stigmata.  I never spoke with her outside the club.  It was strangely disconnected from the rest of life.  Hearing Closer always gets my heart going.
 
2013-03-09 08:45:34 AM
Oh man.

I completely forgot about the Fixed album.

Thanks subby!
 
2013-03-09 08:54:57 AM
Early 90s emo, how angsty.
 
2013-03-09 09:04:51 AM
I haven't heard PHM in forevs...  http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zo7ONZlN5Zg
 
2013-03-09 09:10:56 AM

The_Sponge: I feel old.


This.
 
2013-03-09 09:28:24 AM

Rev.K: Still fantastic.

On the other hand, Pretty Hate Machine has not aged well.



I think PHM was dated even by the mid-90s. It sounds very much like 1989 to the point where I really don't understand why it gets the love that it does. Hell, I would say Ministry's "Land of Rape and Honey" (which came out the prior year) as sounding much more fresh despite likely having a smaller budget. I do like the album overall, but I think only about half of it is genuinely good.
 
2013-03-09 09:39:23 AM
Brutal Electropop classic
 
2013-03-09 09:46:29 AM
One thing I notice so much watching this minidoc is how much i visually prefer not-buff Trent.

If he's off the substances and healthier now, that's obvs awesome, But buff Trent just somehow isn't nearly as hot as mid-90's Trent.
 
2013-03-09 09:56:25 AM
Goes without saying also, And All That Could Have Been  is probably one of the best live albums. I usually HAAAAAAAAAATE live albums.. They usually sound like shiat, or completely over produced..

I am not sure if I like NIN is coming out of retirement again though. Trent has a great collection of work under the NIN name. But not many bands can do this and not feel like some nostalgia show.
 
2013-03-09 09:56:39 AM
I listened to The Downward Spiral while playing Half-Life for the first time, and always associate the two. Which, incidentally, means HL is also around 19 years old.
 
2013-03-09 09:57:44 AM
Still one of my favorite albums (though I think The Fragile is his best work as NIN). Hell, NIN are still one of my favorite 'bands' even.

Techhell: Downward Spiral and Further Down the Spiral are two albums that I always, always, always put onto every new MP3 player,and now every phone I get. I must have listened to these albums a thousand times each, maybe even more.

/I actually hated PHM when I first heard it, and it's still not among my favourite NIN works, but my love of TDS and FDTS brought me around to appreciating PHM.


FDTS is one of the better remix albums, agreed. As are the Closer to God disks.
 
2013-03-09 10:06:34 AM

ravenlore: One thing I notice so much watching this minidoc is how much i visually prefer not-buff Trent.

If he's off the substances and healthier now, that's obvs awesome, But buff Trent just somehow isn't nearly as hot as mid-90's Trent.


I hear you but disagree just enough to post on an internet board about it. Buff, tuxedo-wearing, oscar-winning, collaborating, drug-free, diaper-changing trent is best trent.
 
2013-03-09 10:12:01 AM

Tyrone Slothrop: I listened to The Downward Spiral while playing Half-Life for the first time, and always associate the two. Which, incidentally, means HL is also around 19 years old.


I played a lot of NIN while playing the original Quake. There was a built in media integration thing, where it could use a music CD in your CD tray, and it would advance to the next song on when the next  level started.  It was like NIN was my own personal soundtrack to the game. Man, talk about 2 things made for each other, it was awesome.
 
2013-03-09 10:16:01 AM
https://soundcloud.com/#pomdeterrific/pomdeter-call-me-a-hole

I'll just leave this here.
 
2013-03-09 10:17:39 AM

educated: ravenlore: One thing I notice so much watching this minidoc is how much i visually prefer not-buff Trent.

If he's off the substances and healthier now, that's obvs awesome, But buff Trent just somehow isn't nearly as hot as mid-90's Trent.

I hear you but disagree just enough to post on an internet board about it. Buff, tuxedo-wearing, oscar-winning, collaborating, drug-free, diaper-changing trent is best trent.


I totes get it.

My comment was purely based on which i'd rather see naked, because this is Fark and that's our priority around here ;-)
 
2013-03-09 10:20:03 AM

paulseta: (*: analysis not valid for his new How To Destroy Angels project album with his wife. Jeez, what a boring bleep-fest).


I would have agreed with you for their first EP and single, but I was actually pleasantly surprised how well Welcome Oblivion turned out as an album. I like it.
 
2013-03-09 10:32:25 AM
Reznor used to live in my town (New Orleans). You would see him walking his dog, getting coffee, and all the mundane things we all do. Two things: He's pretty short (we always assume our heroes are tall). 2: He's very, very soft-spoken. After hearing his music you'd assume he was an aggressive asshole. Nope. He was, in my limited experience, a perfect gentleman. Sometimes it's hard to reconcile a song like "Heresy" with the guy we knew in uptown NOLA.

Downward Spiral remains one of my favorite albums.I was in college when it came out so every time I listen (like, right now) I'm reminded I'm no spring chicken.
 
2013-03-09 10:36:28 AM

Rev.K: Still fantastic.

On the other hand, Pretty Hate Machine has not aged well.


I politely ask you to shut your whore mouth. Pretty Hate Machine still stands as an evolution in electronic rock, and sounds great to this day.
 
2013-03-09 10:45:03 AM

ravenlore: educated: ravenlore: One thing I notice so much watching this minidoc is how much i visually prefer not-buff Trent.

If he's off the substances and healthier now, that's obvs awesome, But buff Trent just somehow isn't nearly as hot as mid-90's Trent.

I hear you but disagree just enough to post on an internet board about it. Buff, tuxedo-wearing, oscar-winning, collaborating, drug-free, diaper-changing trent is best trent.

I totes get it.

My comment was purely based on which i'd rather see naked, because this is Fark and that's our priority around here ;-)


:)
Right on.
 
2013-03-09 10:57:59 AM
Man, I loved those first three albums. I still remember chiding people who folded the case for Broken the wrong way.

And Gave Up is still a fantastic video.
http://youtu.be/yVpw1SwJRBI
 
2013-03-09 11:18:07 AM
Skinny Puppy would like a word with all y'all.
 
2013-03-09 11:36:19 AM

illrigger: Skinny Puppy would like a word with all y'all.


Skinny Puppy is closer to "true industrial" (Throbbing Gristle would like a word as well), but Trent/NIN created "industrial pop"--and that "pop" element is what allows his music to stand the test of time much better than Skinny Puppy and the others, haters notwithstanding.

Besides which, Trent has spanned quite a few genres over the years, and continues to evolve (Still, Ghosts). He's never really been true industrial.
 
2013-03-09 11:49:26 AM
I so dryhumped many a young lady whilst dancing to this song.
 
2013-03-09 11:51:21 AM
John Cage would like to have a word with everyone.

No Wait, Pierre Shaeffer would from 1948. Sorry, Stockhausen's yelling about how he's the originator.

"That's not Industrial, this is" arguments destroyed the scene in NYC and continue to act as emotional herpes everywhere else. STFU and enjoy your variety.
 
2013-03-09 11:51:55 AM

Half Right: Skinny Puppy is closer to "true industrial" (Throbbing Gristle would like a word as well), but Trent/NIN created "industrial pop"


I'm going to have to disagree with you.  Whatever term you want to ascribe to what Trent was doing musically, was not created by him.
 
2013-03-09 12:04:21 PM
nine inch nails:industrial::Green Day:punk::Skrillex:dubstep
 
2013-03-09 12:06:33 PM

KNaBisco: I'm going to have to disagree with you. Whatever term you want to ascribe to what Trent was doing musically, was not created by him.


You're right--it'd be more accurate to say that Trent popularized industrial-rock, than to say he created industrial pop.

Znuh: John Cage would like to have a word with everyone.

No Wait, Pierre Shaeffer would from 1948. Sorry, Stockhausen's yelling about how he's the originator.

"That's not Industrial, this is" arguments destroyed the scene in NYC and continue to act as emotional herpes everywhere else. STFU and enjoy your variety.


...And Varese, and the Barrons, and many others before that. Yeah you're right too. Music is awesome!

/That's why I'm Half Right
 
2013-03-09 12:07:20 PM
Here with the PHM crowd that doesn't think it aged well. Its not BAD but I rarely every listen to it anymore. I was about 8 when broken came out and never heard it for the first time til years later, but I remember my sisters friend bringing a copy over and had the mini-cd and I thought that was just the coolest thing in the world back then
 
2013-03-09 12:48:09 PM
What do people in this thread think about "The Fragile" ?
a) Less said about it the better.
b) Overblown piece of crap
c) Underrated.
d) Best double album EVER.
e) Best concept album EVER.
f) just good.
 
2013-03-09 12:58:11 PM

marius2: This was one of the albums that defined me from an early age. Still love it today.


You got that right. I was on a church field trip when I went into the cd store and grabbed a copy not knowing exactly what to expect. Rocked out to that thing the rest of the trip.

I also recommend the SACD version if you can find a copy it sounds great.
 
2013-03-09 01:00:29 PM

Third_Uncle_Eno: What do people in this thread think about "The Fragile" ?
a) Less said about it the better.
b) Overblown piece of crap
c) Underrated.
d) Best double album EVER.
e) Best concept album EVER.
f) just good.


I personally think The Fragile is Trent's best work. It's also the last time all the old crew from the good ole NIN days were around so it has massive amount of talent across the board. Supposedly an anniversary version is coming out which has me really excited. I still listen to it regularly. In this same vein I would recommend Black Light Burn's first album "cruel melody" because it features a lot of old NIN talent helping Wes Borland make his first album and it's solid from front to back.
 
2013-03-09 01:05:09 PM

Third_Uncle_Eno: The Fragile


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2013-03-09 01:19:41 PM

Tyrone Slothrop: I listened to The Downward Spiral while playing Half-Life for the first time, and always associate the two. Which, incidentally, means HL is also around 19 years old.


Half-Life was released in 1998, so it's still underage.
 
2013-03-09 01:22:25 PM
Nine Inch Nail is a great band - they're almost as good at the Beatle or the Rolling Stone.

/for FAILmitter
 
2013-03-09 02:11:21 PM
That album actually got me into industrial music, way back when.

Then i discovered all the amazing bands he ripped off, which didn't just whine about themselves all the time. Now i'm practically an industrial music historian, but the one thing missing from my library is NiN.
 
2013-03-09 02:17:45 PM
Oh, no Marilyn, either. fark both those guys.

/And i'll just leave this here.
 
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