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2013-03-08 09:53:45 PM  
why and how?
 
2013-03-09 12:06:48 AM  
Is it wrong that I'm using my wife as a shield?
 
2013-03-09 12:11:26 AM  
Wow... you mean we don't know everything about how stars behave?

/anyone know any virgins?
//just in case
 
2013-03-09 12:18:42 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Wow... you mean we don't know everything about how stars behave?


Try the Entertainment tab.

MaudlinMutantMollusk: /anyone know any virgins?
//just in case


Try the Geek tab.
 
2013-03-09 12:20:50 AM  

AlwaysRightBoy: Is it wrong that I'm using my wife as a shield?



As long as she's using you as a tampon, I'd say it's a fair exchange.
 
2013-03-09 12:26:12 AM  

Amos Quito: AlwaysRightBoy: Is it wrong that I'm using my wife as a shield?


As long as she's using you as a tampon, I'd say it's a fair exchange.


Nice.
/ soaked tea and scones tomorrow?
 
2013-03-09 12:27:16 AM  
give it about 5B years.
 
2013-03-09 12:30:59 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Wow... you mean we don't know everything about how stars behave?

/anyone know any virgins?
//just in case


Believe it or not, I could get you to four.  The cutest is in DC though.

SpikeStrip: give it about 5B years.


Much less than that.  The sun is getting hotter every year after all.  That's how main sequence G-type stars work.
 
2013-03-09 01:45:14 AM  
the sun is there...oh, wait...
 
2013-03-09 02:14:26 AM  
well I'm already in a basement. how much farther down do I need to go?
 
2013-03-09 02:42:58 AM  
I'll tell you when and if that is going to happen...

/Not worried.
 
2013-03-09 02:49:21 AM  

calbert: well I'm already in a basement. how much farther down do I need to go?


There's no need for you go anywhere. I mean .. you would just be wasting your if you to look around trying to find the hidden door to the subbasement. Because .. ahem .. there is no subbasement. Heck, even of there were a subbasement we wouldn't be down ... I mean .. nobody would be down here .. I mean there ... nobody would be down there. Don't be silly ... there's nobody down he ... um ... there and there's certainly nobody down there monitoring a series of web enable cameras in the basement ... watching you like you were a canary in a mine shaft. Ha ha ahem ... where do you get these crazy ideas?
 
2013-03-09 02:52:45 AM  
meh
If only there were some kind of relationship between sunspots, insolation and climate.

/paging Maunder
 
2013-03-09 02:54:27 AM  
1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-03-09 03:37:17 AM  
Can someone explain what will happen? Are the preppers right?
 
2013-03-09 03:40:36 AM  

themindiswatching: Can someone explain what will happen? Are the preppers right?


nothing

if the flare is big enough, you and everyone on the planet will die, including all the preppers.
if the flares are the normal size, YAWNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN nothing.
if the flares are somewhere in the middle, meh, disruptions and increased cancer rates. YAWN.
think bigger than sandy.

/or you can spend all your money prepping! JUST IN CASE!!!!
 
2013-03-09 03:55:17 AM  

namatad: themindiswatching: Can someone explain what will happen? Are the preppers right?

nothing

if the flare is big enough, you and everyone on the planet will die, including all the preppers.
if the flares are the normal size, YAWNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN nothing.
if the flares are somewhere in the middle, meh, disruptions and increased cancer rates. YAWN.
think bigger than sandy.

/or you can spend all your money prepping! JUST IN CASE!!!!


WE'RE ALL DYING RIGHT THIS SECOND

/albeit slowly
 
2013-03-09 05:07:42 AM  

themindiswatching: namatad: themindiswatching: Can someone explain what will happen? Are the preppers right?

nothing

if the flare is big enough, you and everyone on the planet will die, including all the preppers.
if the flares are the normal size, YAWNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN nothing.
if the flares are somewhere in the middle, meh, disruptions and increased cancer rates. YAWN.
think bigger than sandy.

/or you can spend all your money prepping! JUST IN CASE!!!!

WE'RE ALL DYING RIGHT THIS SECOND

/albeit slowly


PANIK!!!
 
2013-03-09 05:43:49 AM  
Holy shiat at their mastery of making up shiat to make it  look like they're right when they're really wrong.
 
2013-03-09 05:51:33 AM  
I've been reading too much Nassim Taleb and I'm pondering both the nature of predictions and the realistic distribution of outcomes.

The absolute worst happens? We don't continue as a species.

Flare as bad as an EMP globally? Probably gonna suck for a few years, but you'd be surprised how quickly we'd come back. And we'd already have all the fiber laid out, the repeaters under the sea would probably continue to work. The legacy systems that get killed on the surface would give way to better.

Anything less and we get pretty lights at night, and maybe Canada or Scandinavia goes dark for a while.
 
2013-03-09 05:52:14 AM  
Jor-El, the original prepper.

upload.wikimedia.org

www.futuredude.com
 
2013-03-09 05:53:46 AM  

themindiswatching: Can someone explain what will happen? Are the preppers right?


Something in between "oooh! Cool Northern lights!(in Cuba)" and sterilization of Earth's surface.

Carrington Event

The preppers are right, but alot of them have an abundance of crazy to go with it.
 
2013-03-09 06:00:20 AM  
Oops...a lot


/Just for you, QA
 
2013-03-09 06:32:04 AM  
No mention of a biatch-slapping in TFA. In a nutshell, it says:

"It's quiet. Too quiet."

Nothing to be worried about.
 
2013-03-09 07:23:17 AM  

calbert: well I'm already in a basement. how much farther down do I need to go?


I don't know, how deep is your moms basement?


//sorry couldn't resist.
 
2013-03-09 08:32:53 AM  
Ya ever notice how big animals are silent for a second as they draw in their breath right before they let out that earth shattering bellow?  Yeah.  Sun is inhaling.
 
2013-03-09 09:20:40 AM  

Jon iz teh kewl: why and how?


You're asking the denialist Daily Fail. Their answer: Just trust us.
 
2013-03-09 09:21:37 AM  

GAT_00: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Wow... you mean we don't know everything about how stars behave?

/anyone know any virgins?
//just in case

Believe it or not, I could get you to four.  The cutest is in DC though.

SpikeStrip: give it about 5B years.

Much less than that.  The sun is getting hotter every year after all.  That's how main sequence G-type stars work.


Don't take GAT up on that. They're all guys.
 
2013-03-09 09:50:14 AM  
Then thing you know, it's going to change colour. Or let out a massive fart. Or turn into a cube. It just likes messing with scientists.
 
2013-03-09 09:57:20 AM  

gerbilpox: No mention of a biatch-slapping in TFA. In a nutshell, it says:

"It's quiet. Too quiet."

Nothing to be worried about.


Except for the coming Ice Age.
 
2013-03-09 10:08:59 AM  

Stone Meadow: gerbilpox: No mention of a biatch-slapping in TFA. In a nutshell, it says:

"It's quiet. Too quiet."

Nothing to be worried about.

Except for the coming Ice Age.


The ice age is coming, the sun's zooming in...
 
2013-03-09 10:11:51 AM  

FunkOut: Stone Meadow: gerbilpox: No mention of a biatch-slapping in TFA. In a nutshell, it says:

"It's quiet. Too quiet."

Nothing to be worried about.

Except for the coming Ice Age.

The ice age is coming, the sun's zooming in...


Meltdown expected, the wheat is growin' thin...
 
2013-03-09 10:23:34 AM  

gerbilpox: No mention of a biatch-slapping in TFA. In a nutshell, it says:

"It's quiet. Too quiet."

Nothing to be worried about.


Music by The Clash aside, the "biatch-slapping" comes from the sudden and rather starling change in the Sun's behavior. The current sun cycle peak is only about half what the past several have been, and keeps getting revised downward (red line in graph below).

www.swpc.noaa.gov

The last times the sun went this quiet Earth experienced decades of colder than normal weatherclimate.

Better move below the Mason-Dixon line, because for the next 2 or 3 decades at best northern cities will look like this...

3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-03-09 10:35:32 AM  
It's lucky we didn't waste thousands of billions switching to inefficient sources of energy in order to prevent man-made global warming, and can therefore easily afford to mitigate the consequences of completely unpreventable solar-driven global cooling.

What you say? We <i>did</i> do that? Dammit!
 
2013-03-09 10:51:57 AM  
I'm pretty sure Flash Gordon can get us out of this.
 
2013-03-09 11:31:55 AM  

THE GREAT NAME: It's lucky we didn't waste thousands of billions switching to inefficient sources of energy in order to prevent man-made global warming, and can therefore easily afford to mitigate the consequences of completely unpreventable solar-driven global cooling.

What you say? We <i>did</i> do that? Dammit!


So vote Republican!
 
2013-03-09 11:47:57 AM  
This solar cycle's behavior WAS predicted by several solar science dudes some years back, and it's been very interesting to say the least.

The latest prediction by some (not all) of these same solar scientists is that (get this)
While the current solar cycle is far lower than normal as far as various sunspots and other solar magnetic signatures go (not total energy output)
the current solar cycle may last for a much longer time than normal.

So, imagine this red line hitting the low point in 2023-4 instead of 2019
www.swpc.noaa.gov

If anyone is interested in some of this, they might google it all up,
but I'm going to suggest the climate heretic site that has some discussion on this
in an easier to digest format.  Those leaning in the direction of catastrophic global warming will have to ignore some sections of the discussion, but the rest of it really has some good information.
Especially anything by Dr. Leif Svalgaard, in the articles or in the comments.  Or dive into his site  http://www.leif.org/research/
 
2013-03-09 12:19:32 PM  
People see those sunspot graphs, and think that that represents total Solar radiance, and they do not.  Oh wow, it goes down to zero and up to 200, the Sun is really variable and is causing climate change! In reality the total Solar irradiance varies from about 1365.5 Watts/m2 to 1366.5 Watts/m2 during the sunspot cycle, a change of less than 0.1%.  Total Solar output does vary a teeny bit during the sunspot cycle, but not as much as you might think.
 
2013-03-09 12:23:24 PM  
As long as it's not one of those black hole suns we'll be ok.

I saw the documentary about those on MTV years ago. They're scary.
 
2013-03-09 12:28:58 PM  
Cycles are regular because of the winding up and releasing of the suns magnetic field.
The sun is an incredibly stable thing at this time in its life , as a result of its size and density.
The light created at it's core takes hundreds of thousand of years to reach it's surface.
 
2013-03-09 12:31:20 PM  
You mean to tell me that 150 years of observation of a ball of exploding gas that's 5 Billion years old might not be enough time to establish patterns?
 
2013-03-09 12:41:57 PM  
No but 150 years observation by millions of people of billions of stars of all compositions, sizes and ages might.
Math helps as well.
 
2013-03-09 12:43:53 PM  
This is bad news.....for Obama.
 
2013-03-09 01:15:43 PM  

Stone Meadow: gerbilpox: No mention of a biatch-slapping in TFA. In a nutshell, it says:

"It's quiet. Too quiet."

Nothing to be worried about.

Except for the coming Ice Age.


Leonard Nimoy warned us of that more than 30 years ago, in this episode "In Search Of...":
[Part 1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ndHwW8psR8
[Part 2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tokbiZW3gVY
[Part 3] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nprY2jSI0Ds

Oh, if only we had listened!
 
2013-03-09 02:00:09 PM  

DicksWii: You mean to tell me that 150 years of observation of a ball of exploding gas that's 5 Billion years old might not be enough time to establish patterns?


That's actually where all the problems begin. As hard as it may be to believe, we still have no idea what the sun is, exactly. The fusion reactor theory is demonstrably false, it's just the best anyone has come up with so far. But, like with so many things, that never stops NASA from convincing the public they have everything figured out with absolute confidence, until it's evident they don't. And it's not just the sun; the deeper we look into space the more we find things aren't the way NASA was confident they would be. I'm fine with theories being wrong. That's how science works. But the way NASA and its groupies attack anyone who suggests they could be wrong as if they're above being wrong is, dare i say, 'anti-science'.
 
2013-03-09 02:15:41 PM  

J. Frank Parnell: dare i say, 'anti-science'.


You have dared!
 
2013-03-09 02:21:14 PM  

J. Frank Parnell: DicksWii: You mean to tell me that 150 years of observation of a ball of exploding gas that's 5 Billion years old might not be enough time to establish patterns?

That's actually where all the problems begin. As hard as it may be to believe, we still have no idea what the sun is, exactly. The fusion reactor theory is demonstrably false, it's just the best anyone has come up with so far. But, like with so many things, that never stops NASA from convincing the public they have everything figured out with absolute confidence, until it's evident they don't. And it's not just the sun; the deeper we look into space the more we find things aren't the way NASA was confident they would be. I'm fine with theories being wrong. That's how science works. But the way NASA and its groupies attack anyone who suggests they could be wrong as if they're above being wrong is, dare i say, 'anti-science'.


Ok I'll bite. How is the fusion reaction of the Sun demonstrably false.
 
2013-03-09 02:22:18 PM  
?
 
2013-03-09 03:00:16 PM  

FC Exile: Ok I'll bite. How is the fusion reaction of the Sun demonstrably false.


This goes through most of the problems with it, although he still tries to make a case for fusion happening by including aspects of the electric sun theory, whereas i personally believe the electric sun theory, which you can find better explained here, and here.
 
2013-03-09 03:01:17 PM  

FC Exile: J. Frank Parnell: DicksWii: You mean to tell me that 150 years of observation of a ball of exploding gas that's 5 Billion years old might not be enough time to establish patterns?

That's actually where all the problems begin. As hard as it may be to believe, we still have no idea what the sun is, exactly. The fusion reactor theory is demonstrably false, it's just the best anyone has come up with so far. But, like with so many things, that never stops NASA from convincing the public they have everything figured out with absolute confidence, until it's evident they don't. And it's not just the sun; the deeper we look into space the more we find things aren't the way NASA was confident they would be. I'm fine with theories being wrong. That's how science works. But the way NASA and its groupies attack anyone who suggests they could be wrong as if they're above being wrong is, dare i say, 'anti-science'.

Ok I'll bite. How is the fusion reaction of the Sun demonstrably false.


Actually, there are two schools of thought on this subject: Profusion, and Confusion.
 
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