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2013-03-09 12:16:09 AM  
NZ's such a good place to live that huge numbers of Kiwis move over here to Australia.
 
2013-03-09 12:19:37 AM  
Okay, this article complains that the US is too anti-abortion and that that harms women's rights?  Yeah, sure, which is why countries like China, which tend to abort females at a much higher rate than males, are so women friendly, right?
 
2013-03-09 12:21:49 AM  

rkiller1: And of course on 14 March we must celebrate


Why have that on Pi Day?

I mean, guys like steaks and bjs and pie, can't we just have pie on a separate day so that we don't get overwhelmed?
 
2013-03-09 12:24:41 AM  

06Wahoo: Okay, this article complains that the US is too anti-abortion and that that harms women's rights?  Yeah, sure, which is why countries like China, which tend to abort females at a much higher rate than males, are so women friendly, right?


Many would consider the one child policy to be very anti-woman, and not just because so many families choose to abort by gender.
 
2013-03-09 12:26:34 AM  

06Wahoo: Okay, this article complains that the US is too anti-abortion and that that harms women's rights?  Yeah, sure, which is why countries like China, which tend to abort females at a much higher rate than males, are so women friendly, right?


The article doesn't say that. China doesn't make the list either. The article is based on the Economist's glass ceiling index, along with other some other measurements that it fails to reveal, and lists the five best countries to live in if you are female.

China ranks well below the US on the glass ceiling index, but there are also more than five countries higher than the US.
 
2013-03-09 12:26:49 AM  

Great Janitor: Things that need to be organized:

Straight Pride Parade -

only if they are as fun as the gay ones.  Most likely, it will be people like Pat Robertson's clan marching, and they're no fun.  Unless you are talking Mardi Gras, which already exists.
White History Month - why not have each month dedicated to the contributions of different cultures on the modern world?  Have an Eastern European month, a Western European month, a China month, a Middle East month, a Northern Africa month.  America can use some education on other cultures.
International Mens Day - why not?
The opposite of maternity leave for men who don't have children.  Every few years, men and women who don't have babies get a party at work where everyone buys stuff that he registers for, like beer and beef jerky, they give him a party and six weeks paid vacation. - I'm a single, non-parent female, can I still participate?

I'm down with all that.
 
2013-03-09 12:29:59 AM  

06Wahoo: Okay, this article complains that the US is too anti-abortion and that that harms women's rights?  Yeah, sure, which is why countries like China, which tend to abort females at a much higher rate than males, are so women friendly, right?


I'm getting the runaround trying to find this exact study, but something similar has USA at 22, China at 69 so I would say NO.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Gender_Gap_Report
 
2013-03-09 12:31:07 AM  

06Wahoo: Okay, this article complains that the US is too anti-abortion and that that harms women's rights?  Yeah, sure, which is why countries like China, which tend to abort females at a much higher rate than males, are so women friendly, right?


Well played, I see the camel's nose under the tent on that one.
 
2013-03-09 12:31:38 AM  

lyndsayj: NZ's such a good place to live that huge numbers of Kiwis move over here to Australia.


I'm sure few of them are living in farking Tamworth.
 
2013-03-09 12:32:13 AM  
What's 'a problem, ladies? We only rape you because we love you.

At least we care enough to beat you too.
 
2013-03-09 12:33:00 AM  
Anyone bother to mention RAPE statistics are up 500% in Sweden? That 1 in 4 women will be raped?

Great place to nominate there, Lou.

The number of reported rapes in Sweden is by far the highest in the European Union

http://newmediajournal.us/indx.php/item/8231   http://www.thelocal.se/12468/20080616/   http://www.stockholmnews.com/more.aspx?NID=3126
 
2013-03-09 12:33:39 AM  

Duck_of_Doom: Great Janitor: Things that need to be organized:

Straight Pride Parade - only if they are as fun as the gay ones.  Most likely, it will be people like Pat Robertson's clan marching, and they're no fun.  Unless you are talking Mardi Gras, which already exists.

If it's just christians preaching, I want nothing to do with it.  A Mardi Gras style parade is a great idea.  Do it in May when the weather is warm.

White History Month - why not have each month dedicated to the contributions of different cultures on the modern world?  Have an Eastern European month, a Western European month, a China month, a Middle East month, a Northern Africa month.  America can use some education on other cultures.
International Mens Day - why not?

I really can't argue with that since the point of White History Month is that there isn't one and if we truly want equality, then it should be recognized, along with the other cultures.

The opposite of maternity leave for men who don't have children.  Every few years, men and women who don't have babies get a party at work where everyone buys stuff that he registers for, like beer and beef jerky, they give him a party and six weeks paid vacation. - I'm a single, non-parent female, can I still participate?

Yes. Basically, non-parents.  

I'm down with all that.
 
2013-03-09 12:34:14 AM  

lyndsayj: NZ's such a good place to live that huge numbers of Kiwis move over here to Australia.


Some kiwis prefer the difference that Australia provides. You're our closest neighbour, the larger of the two countries, and moving there is easy, so of course it's the most likely destination for those that want something different. Most kiwis stay happy at home, I'm not sure what your point is.
 
2013-03-09 12:35:35 AM  

lyndsayj: NZ's such a good place to live that huge numbers of Kiwis move over here to Australia.


And vice versa

Both nations are immigrant nations
 
2013-03-09 12:36:57 AM  

sleeper2995: Sorry I was just picturing Whore Island.


The Isle of Man is like Whore Island...for women.
 
2013-03-09 12:44:14 AM  

steerforth: HotWingAgenda: ox45tallboy: HotWingAgenda: I'll give Canada credit, but the other four coontries on the list frankly don't matter. You need to compare the top-tier nations to each other.  How does the US stack up against China, Japan, Russia, England, Germany, India, Australia, etc?  No one cares if  nation with the same size population as Rhode Island wins populist paradise of the year.

The people living there do.

Doesn't it make sense to look at the ways tons of different people do things in order to learn more about what works and what doesn't?

Are you saying that the US is too big to treat women better?

I'm saying scale and proportionality matters.  You have to compare apples to apples.  There are many nations where a female Prime Minister  would not have nearly as much global political power or global cultural influence as a female senator or representative in the US.


Fine, let's look at Australia then, the 12th ranked economy in the world by GDP and which could easily be compared to New Zealand and Canada on many of these metrics. We rank up there with NZ and Canada on the Economist's glass ceiling index. Our maternity leave provisions probably let us down and our proportion of female elected representatives is not the greatest, but we do have a female prime minister who is not a figurehead in any way. (That's the Queen. Har har.)

We outrank the US on many of these measures. But then, we only have a population of 22 million, less than the population of California or Texas, so we aren't important, amirite?


Did you intentionally ignore my initial comment where I said the US should be compared to Australia because they are in the same general class?  There is a massive geopolitical gulf between the US and a nation like Iceland or New Zealand.  But the US and Australia, while not particularly close in many metrics, are at least similar, and enable a more reasonable comparison.
 
2013-03-09 12:44:59 AM  
Cue the welcome to dark jpeg. I once loved this site and enjoyed the varying opinions on different topics, in fact many news items would send me off in search of more info. I have found opinions that made me see the other side of the fence and at least made me acknowledge another viewpoint. the last couple years is not the fark I grew to love. I am also aware that sites take on a personality which most reflects and mimics it's most popular participants. This is not who I am nor for the most part is it anyone I want to know. To my fark friends who I had the fun of meeting, you have my number and addy, to the others who are my net buds, keep in touch. For people like stupid meadow....oh I mean stone meadow, bend over and suck your own dumbstick because I'm pretty sure it is either only you or your dog that will get it done. I do hope that this hits the site at least for a few minutes before it gets deleted and I get banned, in the few years here I did have some laughs and I will miss caturday
 
2013-03-09 12:47:20 AM  

HotWingAgenda: steerforth: HotWingAgenda: ox45tallboy: HotWingAgenda: I'll give Canada credit, but the other four coontries on the list frankly don't matter. You need to compare the top-tier nations to each other.  How does the US stack up against China, Japan, Russia, England, Germany, India, Australia, etc?  No one cares if  nation with the same size population as Rhode Island wins populist paradise of the year.

The people living there do.

Doesn't it make sense to look at the ways tons of different people do things in order to learn more about what works and what doesn't?

Are you saying that the US is too big to treat women better?

I'm saying scale and proportionality matters.  You have to compare apples to apples.  There are many nations where a female Prime Minister  would not have nearly as much global political power or global cultural influence as a female senator or representative in the US.


Fine, let's look at Australia then, the 12th ranked economy in the world by GDP and which could easily be compared to New Zealand and Canada on many of these metrics. We rank up there with NZ and Canada on the Economist's glass ceiling index. Our maternity leave provisions probably let us down and our proportion of female elected representatives is not the greatest, but we do have a female prime minister who is not a figurehead in any way. (That's the Queen. Har har.)

We outrank the US on many of these measures. But then, we only have a population of 22 million, less than the population of California or Texas, so we aren't important, amirite?

Did you intentionally ignore my initial comment where I said the US should be compared to Australia because they are in the same general class?  There is a massive geopolitical gulf between the US and a nation like Iceland or New Zealand.  But the US and Australia, while not particularly close in many metrics, are at least similar, and enable a more reasonable comparison.


Yeah, and Australia still outranks the US on the index, as does Canada. Not very bootstrappy of you.
 
2013-03-09 12:51:59 AM  
I love how they bag on the US for abortion laws passed but yet Sweden, which is in their top 5, has more restrictions on abortion than any state in the US (basically illegal except in the case of rape, incest, or medical necessity which is where some of our states are trying to take it but afaik haven't yet succeeded). Norway is basically in line with the majority of the US in that it's available during the first trimester, and somewhat during the first half of the second and only in extreme cases after that. Finland falls in the middle of those two and is perhaps most comparable to a purple state like Ohio where they're legal but require some hoops to jump through.
 
2013-03-09 12:55:20 AM  

Pivot: Cue the welcome to dark jpeg. I once loved this site and enjoyed the varying opinions on different topics, in fact many news items would send me off in search of more info. I have found opinions that made me see the other side of the fence and at least made me acknowledge another viewpoint. the last couple years is not the fark I grew to love. I am also aware that sites take on a personality which most reflects and mimics it's most popular participants. This is not who I am nor for the most part is it anyone I want to know. To my fark friends who I had the fun of meeting, you have my number and addy, to the others who are my net buds, keep in touch. For people like stupid meadow....oh I mean stone meadow, bend over and suck your own dumbstick because I'm pretty sure it is either only you or your dog that will get it done. I do hope that this hits the site at least for a few minutes before it gets deleted and I get banned, in the few years here I did have some laughs and I will miss caturday


4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-03-09 12:56:01 AM  

ox45tallboy: rkiller1: And of course on 14 March we must celebrate

Why have that on Pi Day?

I mean, guys like steaks and bjs and pie, can't we just have pie on a separate day so that we don't get overwhelmed?


Exactly what kind of pie are we munching on?  I prefer cherry.  (Valentines Day + one month = March 14th)
 
2013-03-09 12:57:31 AM  
4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-03-09 01:03:41 AM  

Lucidz: Why did this get greenlit... Like there are any women on fark...


Damn straight there is!
 
2013-03-09 01:05:02 AM  

robodog: I love how they bag on the US for abortion laws passed but yet Sweden, which is in their top 5, has more restrictions on abortion than any state in the US (basically illegal except in the case of rape, incest, or medical necessity which is where some of our states are trying to take it but afaik haven't yet succeeded). Norway is basically in line with the majority of the US in that it's available during the first trimester, and somewhat during the first half of the second and only in extreme cases after that. Finland falls in the middle of those two and is perhaps most comparable to a purple state like Ohio where they're legal but require some hoops to jump through.


Citation? My understanding is there is no restriction on abortion at all up until the 18th week, and restrictions only set in after the fetus is viable (22 weeks), which is quite normal in Europe. Those restrictions may be overcome quite easily.  http://www.pewforum.org/Abortion/Abortion-Laws-Around-the-World.aspx
 
2013-03-09 01:05:43 AM  
I'm going to guess countries dominated by Catholics, Evangelicals, shiates and other meddlesome religions didn't make the list.  So the USA, Ireland and Saudi Arabia.
 
2013-03-09 01:09:53 AM  
Just imagine how rich and powerful Oprah would be if she wasn't at such a disadvantage...
 
2013-03-09 01:16:08 AM  

steerforth: I'm saying scale and proportionality matters. You have to compare apples to apples. There are many nations where a female Prime Minister would not have nearly as much global political power or global cultural influence as a female senator or representative in the US.


Fine, let's look at Australia then, the 12th ranked economy in the world by GDP and which could easily be compared to New Zealand and Canada on many of these metrics. We rank up there with NZ and Canada on the Economist's glass ceiling index. Our maternity leave provisions probably let us down and our proportion of female elected representatives is not the greatest, but we do have a female prime minister who is not a figurehead in any way. (That's the Queen. Har har.)

We outrank the US on many of these measures. But then, we only have a population of 22 million, less than the population of California or Texas, so we aren't important, amirite?

Did you intentionally ignore my initial comment where I said the US should be compared to Australia because they are in the same general class? There is a massive geopolitical gulf between the US and a nation like Iceland or New Zealand. But the US and Australia, while not particularly close in many metrics, are at least similar, and enable a more reasonable comparison.

Yeah, and Australia still outranks the US on the index, as does Canada. Not very bootstrappy of you.


Not sure what you mean by "bootstrappy", but I wouldn't be surprised if Canada and Australia both ranked above the US on a statistically accurate index.  The problem is that this particular index is not accurate, because it claims to compare wildly dissimilar nations.  It's like comparing quality of life for the lowest/lowest employee at a 10 person company in someone's garage and no overhead, to quality of life for the lowest/highest employee at a 30,000 person Fortune 500 company.  You have to compare records within the same data set, not across different data sets.
 
2013-03-09 01:18:22 AM  

ox45tallboy: Pivot: I bet you have a blow up doll and call her Zelda

Hey! What's wrong with that?

/and it's Zeldy for short. Okay, it's not shorter, it's more of an affectionate nickname. Like Bruce.


Are you Australian?
 
2013-03-09 01:19:26 AM  
So why is giving crazy more rights a good thing?
 
2013-03-09 01:20:17 AM  

kittiekat21: Lucidz: Why did this get greenlit... Like there are any women on fark...

Damn straight there is!


Ssshhh!  You'll spoil it for us.  They'll find out about our 8gig ram ovens, tablet cutting boards, and wifi clothes hangers.  Now pretend you have PMS so they can continue in ignorance.
 
2013-03-09 01:22:59 AM  
I highly recommend the Scandinavian  documentaries:

Brainwash: The Gender Equality Paradox
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQ2xrnyH2wQ


and The Gender War:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yta55u2zP2U

The only way to make Feminism worse is by turning it into a religion. (A state sponsored religion at that...)
 
2013-03-09 01:30:32 AM  
i.chzbgr.com

/this isn't an India thread already?
//you people are letting me down
 
2013-03-09 01:35:38 AM  

robodog: I love how they bag on the US for abortion laws passed but yet Sweden, which is in their top 5, has more restrictions on abortion than any state in the US (basically illegal except in the case of rape, incest, or medical necessity which is where some of our states are trying to take it but afaik haven't yet succeeded). Norway is basically in line with the majority of the US in that it's available during the first trimester, and somewhat during the first half of the second and only in extreme cases after that. Finland falls in the middle of those two and is perhaps most comparable to a purple state like Ohio where they're legal but require some hoops to jump through.


In Canada there are no legal restrctions on abortion.
 
2013-03-09 01:43:33 AM  

HotWingAgenda: steerforth: I'm saying scale and proportionality matters. You have to compare apples to apples. There are many nations where a female Prime Minister would not have nearly as much global political power or global cultural influence as a female senator or representative in the US.


Fine, let's look at Australia then, the 12th ranked economy in the world by GDP and which could easily be compared to New Zealand and Canada on many of these metrics. We rank up there with NZ and Canada on the Economist's glass ceiling index. Our maternity leave provisions probably let us down and our proportion of female elected representatives is not the greatest, but we do have a female prime minister who is not a figurehead in any way. (That's the Queen. Har har.)

We outrank the US on many of these measures. But then, we only have a population of 22 million, less than the population of California or Texas, so we aren't important, amirite?

Did you intentionally ignore my initial comment where I said the US should be compared to Australia because they are in the same general class? There is a massive geopolitical gulf between the US and a nation like Iceland or New Zealand. But the US and Australia, while not particularly close in many metrics, are at least similar, and enable a more reasonable comparison.

Yeah, and Australia still outranks the US on the index, as does Canada. Not very bootstrappy of you.

Not sure what you mean by "bootstrappy", but I wouldn't be surprised if Canada and Australia both ranked above the US on a statistically accurate index.  The problem is that this particular index is not accurate, because it claims to compare wildly dissimilar nations.  It's like comparing quality of life for the lowest/lowest employee at a 10 person company in someone's garage and no overhead, to quality of life for the lowest/highest employee at a 30,000 person Fortune 500 company.  You have to compare records within the same data set, not across different data sets.


The author of this particular article used a number of different datasets. Pretty much all of them had the Scandinavian nations, Canada and New Zealand ahead of the US on a number of metrics. Australia is usually just out of the top five. I take the point that four of the countries listed have small populations, but she does use statistically sound sources, which I have linked below. If you have a problem with the sources, particularly the Happiness Index and the Economist's glass ceiling index, that's up to you.

What the author has done is bring in several sources for her conclusions. In all of these sources, the US ranks highly, but what Subby was referring to in part - beside the obvious "duh, Muslims" reaction - was that the US, the most wealthy nation on earth, rarely cracks the top five. Perhaps the US should look into this situation, considering half of its population sensibly carries its gonads on the inside.


http://www.economist.com/blogs/graphicdetail/2013/03/daily-chart-3

http://www.trust.org/documents/womens-rights/resources/G20Poll2012I nfo graphics.pdf

http://www.prosperity.com/Ranking.aspx

http://777voting.com/

http://www.earth.columbia.edu/articles/view/2960
 
2013-03-09 02:09:06 AM  

spidermilk: OK sorry but what does having a large population have to do with all the backward laws they invent just to try to make abortions more difficult to obtain?

Also come on people are still really sexist so fark off. You guys are actually joking which doesn't bother me. And I am not a woman who thinks that strippers, porn, Hardees whatever is offensive to women. I don't even give TWO shiatS who does more housework unless the woman is being forced to do it (in reality I think women CARE MORE about housework so they do it more- on their own free will. like men care about their car more so they spend more time washing it or always get the gas). Focusing on this stupid stuff distracts from the real problems like slut shaming or people who think a woman president would break down crying at every meeting.


Part of the reason a lot of feminists sweat the small stuff is because it's enculturation. Women don't naturally care more about housework; they care more because their mothers taught them to have a clean house and their husband doesn't know how to operate a dishwasher. And if your husband doesn't know how to operate a dishwasher, or is only 'helping' around the house instead of actually having a defined amount of chores, then you have  no life if you're a breadwinner, because you're taking on two jobs at once. I've watched women IRL try to deal with that, and they basically sacrifice their entire lives for no reason. Not to mention that it sends a pretty clear message that a woman's job in life is to support others who will basically mooch off her...

Yeah, sometimes it's just silly. But pointing out flaws in our enculturation  is working on things like slut shaming or people who think a woman president would break down crying, because it addresses the root issue: No one is born sexist, and we have to be sure we don't accidentally teach it.
 
2013-03-09 02:26:51 AM  

rkiller1: Exactly what kind of pie are we munching on? I prefer cherry. (Valentines Day + one month = March 14th)


Any kind of pie you want.

March 14 = 3.14
 
2013-03-09 02:28:44 AM  

12349876:  I'm sure you think that 27 billion euros of revenue is local school board change (Hint: that's what the CEO of IKEA in SwedenThe Netherlands deals with)


Fixed that for you.

/Tax avoidance construction
 
2013-03-09 02:28:59 AM  

ciberido: Are you Australian?


No, American. I just can't imagine anyone wanting to be known as Bruce, therefore I believe it must be a sort of affectionate nickname.
 
2013-03-09 02:31:19 AM  
No surprises there. All five of those countries regularly top the UN Human Development Index, with Norway nearly always earning the top spot.

Wealthy, secular, progressive nations invariably have the highest standard of living in the world.
 
2013-03-09 02:49:57 AM  
Anyone see that there is a vote in the EU next week to outlaw all porn: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/9917189/MEPs-to-vote-on-EU - ban-on-all-forms-of-pornography.html
 
2013-03-09 02:52:35 AM  

Stone Meadow: 12349876: Stone Meadow: Okay, ONE out of five countries on the list has a population greater than that of a decent sized urban county in the US. So?

So that's BS.  Sweden has just about as many people as the largest US county, Los Angeles.  Sweden and Norway and New Zealand would all be third behind LA and Cook Illinois.  Even if you used Metropolitan Statistical Areas, Sweden would be 3rd and Norway and New Zealand in the top 11.

So, you agree with me...thanks. (Hint: don't be such a literalist. I'm trying to make the point that what is achievable in tiny countries doesn't necessarily translate to larger societies, no matter their willingness to engage on the issue. Being CEO of a company in Norway is like being chair of the local board of education in the US...a good place to start earning one's bona fides, but hardly world news.)


I don't know if there are any education boards that have budgets of 66 billion a year. Remember....they are a big oil nation and also dominate the maritime industries.
 
2013-03-09 03:08:49 AM  

Branch Dravidian: [i.chzbgr.com image 500x364]

/this isn't an India thread already?
//you people are letting me down


I just hugged my Indian fiancee
 
2013-03-09 03:23:03 AM  

Clemkadidlefark: Anyone bother to mention RAPE statistics are up 500% in Sweden? That 1 in 4 women will be raped?

Great place to nominate there, Lou.

The number of reported rapes in Sweden is by far the highest in the European Union

http://newmediajournal.us/indx.php/item/8231   http://www.thelocal.se/12468/20080616/   http://www.stockholmnews.com/more.aspx?NID=3126


Part of that is because they upgraded many sexual assault offences to rape. Also, 2/3ds of the rapes there are committed by immigrants. Mostly Muslim immigrants(Sweden has the highest % of Muslim imm. in the EU). They think that if a woman is not covered with a burkha, she is a whore, and they are free to do to her whatever they wish.
 
2013-03-09 03:39:25 AM  
Scandinavian countries have been ahead of the curve on this subject for a loooong time.
Quite a few of the Viking raiders were women.


/Maybe that is why Catholics are so afraid of women?
 
2013-03-09 03:58:19 AM  
The five best countries to live in if you are a woman. Guess who didn't make the list?

If you are concerned about workers rights, ect, the United States is not the best country for these things if you are a man either.

/Yes I know, it is about equality. I see giving women having time off for child care and mandating equal pay part of the same package as making sure everyone gets healthcare and decent rights in the workplace part of the same package. Equality is more then just having a penis or a vagina.

//Socialist!!!
 
2013-03-09 04:15:45 AM  

Clemkadidlefark: Anyone bother to mention RAPE statistics are up 500% in Sweden? That 1 in 4 women will be raped?

Great place to nominate there, Lou.

The number of reported rapes in Sweden is by far the highest in the European Union

http://newmediajournal.us/indx.php/item/8231   http://www.thelocal.se/12468/20080616/   http://www.stockholmnews.com/more.aspx?NID=3126


The criterion for 'rape' in Sweden is pretty much whatever the woman says it is. Look at Julian Assange. Feel slutty the next morning? Raped. Drunk one-night stand? Raped.
 
2013-03-09 05:01:10 AM  
I've never understood how anti-abortion protests make a country a worse place for women?  I'm neither for nor against abortion, I just think it's interesting how people who are 'for' abortion have turned it into a 'Pro Women' thing.  The majority of anti-abortion protests I've seen (and I've seen a lot) are primarily filled with women.
 
2013-03-09 05:13:23 AM  
I have it on good authority it doesn't matter how many women are in power, they are all women who had to play "the man's game" to get there. Why is this a criteria? Sexist ranking.

Also, 3/5 come from Viking country. I'm sure that isn't cultural, at all.  And why are the United States' major detractors health care "and by the way, Congress". Was that just because it's assumed health care is more important and all the other countries "pass" so it's not worth mentioning as a positive?

What was this list trying to convince me of, again?
 
2013-03-09 05:17:14 AM  

spidermilk: OK sorry but what does having a large population have to do with all the backward laws they invent just to try to make abortions more difficult to obtain?

Also come on people are still really sexist so fark off. You guys are actually joking which doesn't bother me. And I am not a woman who thinks that strippers, porn, Hardees whatever is offensive to women. I don't even give TWO shiatS who does more housework unless the woman is being forced to do it (in reality I think women CARE MORE about housework so they do it more- on their own free will. like men care about their car more so they spend more time washing it or always get the gas). Focusing on this stupid stuff distracts from the real problems like slut shaming or people who think a woman president would break down crying at every meeting.


I hope (and trust) you realize that not all of the males are like this, and I hope (and trust) that you do not think all women are like this.

Time are changing.

Sometimes for the better.

Sexual equality will be a reality soon.

I will fight from my side, you fight from your side, together there will be a better world.
As long as both sides respect each other, we are both special and different.
If either side fights for superiority the other side will fight back.
We (males) are stronger so we have the upper hand, but that strength is only because of the misbehaviour of our fathers.
Forgive us, we did not do it.

I hate feminism though, it pisses me right the hell off - I will not surrender to females, and I do not see the difference between feminism and chauvinism. Anyone who tries to subjugate me will be fought against. Modern feminism is farking offensive.
 
2013-03-09 05:21:17 AM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: I've never understood how anti-abortion protests make a country a worse place for women?  I'm neither for nor against abortion, I just think it's interesting how people who are 'for' abortion have turned it into a 'Pro Women' thing.  The majority of anti-abortion protests I've seen (and I've seen a lot) are primarily filled with women.


You aren't able to see that women having a choice about something so important as their future / a choice concerning something as important as their own body is "pro-women"?

/Pfffft!
 
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