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2013-03-09 05:17:14 AM

spidermilk: OK sorry but what does having a large population have to do with all the backward laws they invent just to try to make abortions more difficult to obtain?

Also come on people are still really sexist so fark off. You guys are actually joking which doesn't bother me. And I am not a woman who thinks that strippers, porn, Hardees whatever is offensive to women. I don't even give TWO shiatS who does more housework unless the woman is being forced to do it (in reality I think women CARE MORE about housework so they do it more- on their own free will. like men care about their car more so they spend more time washing it or always get the gas). Focusing on this stupid stuff distracts from the real problems like slut shaming or people who think a woman president would break down crying at every meeting.


I hope (and trust) you realize that not all of the males are like this, and I hope (and trust) that you do not think all women are like this.

Time are changing.

Sometimes for the better.

Sexual equality will be a reality soon.

I will fight from my side, you fight from your side, together there will be a better world.
As long as both sides respect each other, we are both special and different.
If either side fights for superiority the other side will fight back.
We (males) are stronger so we have the upper hand, but that strength is only because of the misbehaviour of our fathers.
Forgive us, we did not do it.

I hate feminism though, it pisses me right the hell off - I will not surrender to females, and I do not see the difference between feminism and chauvinism. Anyone who tries to subjugate me will be fought against. Modern feminism is farking offensive.
 
2013-03-09 05:21:17 AM

Fark_Guy_Rob: I've never understood how anti-abortion protests make a country a worse place for women?  I'm neither for nor against abortion, I just think it's interesting how people who are 'for' abortion have turned it into a 'Pro Women' thing.  The majority of anti-abortion protests I've seen (and I've seen a lot) are primarily filled with women.


You aren't able to see that women having a choice about something so important as their future / a choice concerning something as important as their own body is "pro-women"?

/Pfffft!
 
2013-03-09 05:25:41 AM

Stone Meadow: ox45tallboy: Fine. Three out of the five (Canada, Sweden, and Iceland) all have larger populations than ANY urban area in the US, and the other two have larger populations than any single county, so you're absolutely, unequivocally wrong on the first part.

Want to try again? Iceland's population is 320,000...wouldn't even come close to the top 100 counties in the US...maybe not the top 1000.

As for Sweden...might make the top 5.

My point stands.


Why does population have ANY bearing on this?
 
2013-03-09 05:26:24 AM

Fark_Guy_Rob: I've never understood how anti-abortion protests make a country a worse place for women?  I'm neither for nor against abortion, I just think it's interesting how people who are 'for' abortion have turned it into a 'Pro Women' thing.  The majority of anti-abortion protests I've seen (and I've seen a lot) are primarily filled with women.


It is quite simple

Men are not told they are misbehaving
Women are

Women dont like being told that
Men do not either

Basically they are saying "this is not your choice, leave me alone"

(I am anti abortion personally but I do not impose my choice on others so I am also pro choice)

It is a question of choice.

Humans (and dogs, horses, turtles and Geese, etc...) dont like being told by someone uninvolved with the consequence that they have no choice.

The protestors are primarily female simply because men are never the victim of the imposition.
 
2013-03-09 05:27:31 AM
^^ Im anti abortion because the child was not asked
 
2013-03-09 05:30:47 AM

Alphax: Why does population have ANY bearing on this?


If population stats were important, Americans should shut the fark up

// Born in New Zealand, my home is Canada, currently working in Beijing China
/ I agree with you, population has nothing to do with this, but it is a common US boast which annoys me greatly, it is arrogant and incorrect. The US WAS an empire, now the world is basically saying STFU to that arrogance.
 
2013-03-09 05:40:06 AM

The Snow Dog: Fark_Guy_Rob: I've never understood how anti-abortion protests make a country a worse place for women?  I'm neither for nor against abortion, I just think it's interesting how people who are 'for' abortion have turned it into a 'Pro Women' thing.  The majority of anti-abortion protests I've seen (and I've seen a lot) are primarily filled with women.

You aren't able to see that women having a choice about something so important as their future / a choice concerning something as important as their own body is "pro-women"?

/Pfffft!


Absolutely not.

It is a choice, yes.  But virtually all of our laws exist to restrict choices.  A law against drunk driving takes *away* choices.  The idea is that the choices we are taking away are 'bad' choices.  A law against murder removes a choice, but the idea is that murder is a bad choice.

Given that plenty of WOMEN think abortion is a bad choice - I don't view legal abortion as being 'pro-women' anymore than I would view legalized marijuana as being pro-women.  In either case, weed or abortion, the laws dictate what women can and can't do with their bodies.  That's pretty much what all laws do.  Plenty of men benefit from abortion too, and plenty of would-be-women are aborted....so it seems awfully gender-neutral to me.  I know if I knocked up a girl I'd be THRILLED if we could get an abortion.
 
2013-03-09 05:45:39 AM

Fark_Guy_Rob: I know if I knocked up a girl I'd be THRILLED if we could get an abortion.


may I ask why ?
 
2013-03-09 05:47:42 AM

Fark_Guy_Rob: I know if I knocked up a girl I'd be THRILLED if we could get an abortion.


It is not a form of contraception.
 
2013-03-09 05:51:42 AM

Fark_Guy_Rob: Given that plenty of WOMEN think abortion is a bad choice - I don't view legal abortion as being 'pro-women' anymore than I would view legalized marijuana as being pro-women.


I disagree.  Saying that a woman cannot get an abortion is a bad restriction on their lives, their freedom, and their health.  The laws that make them get invasive sonograms both insult their intelligence, by claiming they don't know what they're doing, and makes them submit to a plastic cock as punishment.

And banning abortion completely?  That just means that if they want it out of their bodies, they will use more dangerous methods of doing so, and might die.
 
2013-03-09 06:13:18 AM

Pivot: SBinRR: The women in the countries listed appear to be highly motivated go getters that have made good lives for themselves.

Well done ladies!

I bet you get laid alot


I bet you don't.
 
2013-03-09 06:43:50 AM
All of those countries have the same thing in common: No people.
 
2013-03-09 07:05:50 AM

Slartibartfaster: spidermilk: OK sorry but what does having a large population have to do with all the backward laws they invent just to try to make abortions more difficult to obtain?

Also come on people are still really sexist so fark off. You guys are actually joking which doesn't bother me. And I am not a woman who thinks that strippers, porn, Hardees whatever is offensive to women. I don't even give TWO shiatS who does more housework unless the woman is being forced to do it (in reality I think women CARE MORE about housework so they do it more- on their own free will. like men care about their car more so they spend more time washing it or always get the gas). Focusing on this stupid stuff distracts from the real problems like slut shaming or people who think a woman president would break down crying at every meeting.

I hope (and trust) you realize that not all of the males are like this, and I hope (and trust) that you do not think all women are like this.

Time are changing.

Sometimes for the better.

Sexual equality will be a reality soon.

I will fight from my side, you fight from your side, together there will be a better world.
As long as both sides respect each other, we are both special and different.
If either side fights for superiority the other side will fight back.
We (males) are stronger so we have the upper hand, but that strength is only because of the misbehaviour of our fathers.
Forgive us, we did not do it.

I hate feminism though, it pisses me right the hell off - I will not surrender to females, and I do not see the difference between feminism and chauvinism. Anyone who tries to subjugate me will be fought against. Modern feminism is farking offensive.


Surrender to the female, fartyblaststarter. Mommy says if you do you can have pudding.
 
2013-03-09 07:19:40 AM
Norway is a pretty awesome place to be a man too.

14 weeks of mandatory paternity leave, this is in addition to the mandatory 9 weeks of maternity leave and then the 50 weeks of PAID shared leave.  They might have upped that last one for 2013, I am not entirely certain.  A couple having a child can get up to a total of at least 73 weeks of paid leave.  Child care is heavily subsidized.

A living minimum wage.  While there is no official minimum wage in Norway, the Union contracts have effectively created one where the average wage of the lowest paid 10% of the country is NOK 20,600.  Or about $43,000 a year.  That is only about 1/3 the wage of the highest 10%.  (Stats from 2010).

About a $600 Cap on yearly medical costs.  You essentially pay all medical costs up to $600 for a year and after that the government pays.  Medical and dental are free for all residents up to 18 years of age.

Education up through PhD is free.  Loan support for student living expenses it cheap.  They also get a small stipend for being a student.

What do you notice about all these things?  They are INCREDIBLY pragmatic.  They focus around early investment in programs that will yield LONG-TERM positive results.  Just about everything Norway does follows this pattern.  Spend a little now, get much more down the road.

They apply this to all sorts of systems, such as their prison system.  As a culture they resist the base human urges of punishment and vengeance, instead focusing on rehabilitation  because THAT is what will save money and improve society in the long run.

There is NOTHING about what Norway does to make itself such a great place to live that isn't FULLY APPLICABLE to western countries of all sizes and demographics, the United States included.  In fact, the US is full of natural resources and us Americans here in Norway are known for being diligent and hardworking employees.

All of the "blah blah blah but Norway is small" nonsense being spewed by morons in this thread comes from a place of total ignorance, and it has no basis in reality.  So just keep regurgitating those BS talking points and fighting over the crumbs of your betters.

/Never leaving
 
2013-03-09 07:24:28 AM
So by the inverse logic, the greatest place to be a man would be Saudi Arabia, right?
 
2013-03-09 07:27:36 AM

littleray42: All of those countries have the same thing in common: No people.


This may surprise you...
because you are ignorant and stupid
The people you said do not exist ? we actually exist

farkwit

This might also surprise you.
But I doubt it
Because you dont read more than three words in a day
It is POSSIBLE for ALL nations to also be respectful of other people

// You are the problem, stand aside so we can continue implementing the solution
/ or ya know, carry on as you are, its working out SO well for you
 
2013-03-09 07:28:48 AM

HaywoodJablonski: So by the inverse logic, the greatest place to be a man would be Saudi Arabia, right?


If you hate women, perhaps. I'm thinking of taking a trip to Norway with my wife, to see if it is really as nice as it sounds.
 
2013-03-09 07:29:28 AM

steerforth: Surrender to the female, fartyblaststarter. Mommy says if you do you can have pudding.


You cant have any pudding if you dont eat your meat.
 
2013-03-09 07:31:29 AM

MmmmBacon: If you hate women, perhaps. I'm thinking of taking a trip to Norway with my wife, to see if it is really as nice as it sounds.


It's gorgeous, if you aren't a winter sports enthusiast come in the summer.
 
2013-03-09 07:37:33 AM
Okay I'm going to Canada! Who wants to join me?
 
2013-03-09 07:39:22 AM

MmmmBacon: I'm thinking of taking a trip to Norway with my wife, to see if it is really as nice as it sounds.


The food there is quite different, but if you like dairy products the milk and cheese there is very rich.
The fish there is quite pungent (quite stinky but ... quite flavourful)
The landscapes are very very nice.

The people are tricky.
Quite nice once you get to know them.
Quite hard to get to know.

I hope you and your wife enjoy your trip.
 
2013-03-09 07:53:54 AM

dr_blasto: Saudi Arabia?

/DNRTFA



I only glanced at the article, but I'm shocked that no Asian countries made the list I'm almost as shocked that no countries in Africa or the Middle East made the list.

not really shocked that the US is not on it.

How the hell do you measure such a thing anyway? Who decides the criteria?

FTFA: Women in Norway were allowed to inherit property in 1854,

Oh.

Hooray for 160 years ago!

And I'm not saying the US should be on the list....looks at article slightly more closely. Oh, it's measured by how many women are in government and how easy it is to get an abortion. Thanks - I'm sure those are the only 2 things that matter to women.
 
2013-03-09 08:07:32 AM
I am going to guess , without reading the article, and say that the list is based on how much "free stuff" and special treatment the  supposedly equal gender that is woman is given.

RTFA:  Ooops It is all about how many woman hold public office.  Well it would seem that if woman are in the majority and make up the majority of voters they have only themselves to blame for that one.  Of course they do seem to tend to vote for men that are more like women so it tends to even out.

Notes form article: #1 Norway-Just 3.5 percent of businesses there are led by women -- less than in the U.S., Great Britain, and Spain -- and, in spite of the focus on equal rights, when it comes to housework women there still handle the bulk of it.
 
2013-03-09 08:09:07 AM

robodog: I love how they bag on the US for abortion laws passed but yet Sweden, which is in their top 5, has more restrictions on abortion than any state in the US (basically illegal except in the case of rape, incest, or medical necessity which is where some of our states are trying to take it but afaik haven't yet succeeded). Norway is basically in line with the majority of the US in that it's available during the first trimester, and somewhat during the first half of the second and only in extreme cases after that. Finland falls in the middle of those two and is perhaps most comparable to a purple state like Ohio where they're legal but require some hoops to jump through.


True but at least if you get pregnant in those countries you can't be fired, are given time off when the baby is born, have insurance that won't put you into debt, and have a social safety net so you won't end up homeless. You'd be surprised how many American Christian traditional-family-values families kick their pregnant daughters out of the house...but it's not tradition to kick out a son who gets a woman pregnant.

So how about you give us women all that support so we can raise our babies in safety and then maybe we can have their abortion laws too?
 
2013-03-09 08:12:07 AM

Slartibartfaster: steerforth: Surrender to the female, fartyblaststarter. Mommy says if you do you can have pudding.

You cant have any pudding if you dont eat your meat.


Equality of the sexes means a well-balanced diet. You may find this unpalatable, but you can always suck on your jerky to beef yourself up.
 
2013-03-09 08:14:45 AM

Clemkadidlefark: Anyone bother to mention RAPE statistics are up 500% in Sweden? That 1 in 4 women will be raped?

Great place to nominate there, Lou.

The number of reported rapes in Sweden is by far the highest in the European Union

http://newmediajournal.us/indx.php/item/8231   http://www.thelocal.se/12468/20080616/   http://www.stockholmnews.com/more.aspx?NID=3126


Well, they DID have Julian Assange hang out there once.
 
2013-03-09 08:16:50 AM

steerforth: Equality of the sexes means a well-balanced diet.


double plus good speak true
 
2013-03-09 08:22:52 AM

ox45tallboy: Stone Meadow: ox45tallboy: Fine. Three out of the five (Canada, Sweden, and Iceland) all have larger populations than ANY urban area in the US, and the other two have larger populations than any single county, so you're absolutely, unequivocally wrong on the first part.

Want to try again? Iceland's population is 320,000...wouldn't even come close to the top 100 counties in the US...maybe not the top 1000.

As for Sweden...might make the top 5.

My point stands.

Ha.

You're right about Iceland being roughly 320,000.

Other than that:

Norway - 5,000,000
Iceland - 320,000
Sweden - 9,500,000
Canada - 34,500,00
New Zealand - 4,400,000

Most populous counties in the US:

Los Angeles - 9,800,000
Cook Co. IL (Chicago) - 5,200,000
Harris County TX (Houston) - 4,100,000

And it goes down from there. Although I was wrong about the population of two of the countries, you are far more wrong when you say

Stone Meadow: Okay, ONE out of five countries on the list has a population greater than that of a decent sized urban county in the US.

Keep in mind that four out of the five countries have higher populations than the third largest county in the US, so unless you want to try and weasel out by saying "well, by decent-sized I only meant the top 2 out of the 3,143 in the United States."

Your point is wrong, and you are a silly poster for having said such a silly thing.


Are you really arguing that because 2 of the COUNTRIES on this list have more people than the largest COUNTY in the USA? Because you've already lost it that's the case.

If the argument were, which country/state/city/county would you most like to live if you were a woman, I'd bet San Francisco/California would too the list
 
2013-03-09 08:28:19 AM

hasty ambush: I am going to guess , without reading the article, and say that the list is based on how much "free stuff" and special treatment the  supposedly equal gender that is woman is given.

RTFA:  Ooops It is all about how many woman hold public office.  Well it would seem that if woman are in the majority and make up the majority of voters they have only themselves to blame for that one.  Of course they do seem to tend to vote for men that are more like women so it tends to even out.

Notes form article: #1 Norway-Just 3.5 percent of businesses there are led by women -- less than in the U.S., Great Britain, and Spain -- and, in spite of the focus on equal rights, when it comes to housework women there still handle the bulk of it.


Why the fark is amount of housework relevant?
 
2013-03-09 08:32:37 AM

HaywoodJablonski: Are you really arguing that because 2 of the COUNTRIES on this list have more people than the largest COUNTY in the USA? Because you've already lost it that's the case.


Are you really arguing that the larger the population the more correct it is and the more they have a right to feel superior ?

Cuz ummmm

India called they want to have a word (and this time its not tech support for products manufactured in China)
China called too, but, it was to sell you something and you didn't answer fast enough they moved on to calling India - ya know, a country that has a large population with disposable income.

USA !!! we're number three
USA !!! we're number three
USA !!! we're number three
 
2013-03-09 08:34:24 AM

MmmmBacon: HaywoodJablonski: So by the inverse logic, the greatest place to be a man would be Saudi Arabia, right?

If you hate women, perhaps. I'm thinking of taking a trip to Norway with my wife, to see if it is really as nice as it sounds.


Make sure you bring lots of cash. $15 beers, etc.
 
2013-03-09 08:37:43 AM

Slartibartfaster: HaywoodJablonski: Are you really arguing that because 2 of the COUNTRIES on this list have more people than the largest COUNTY in the USA? Because you've already lost it that's the case.

Are you really arguing that the larger the population the more correct it is and the more they have a right to feel superior ?

Cuz ummmm

India called they want to have a word (and this time its not tech support for products manufactured in China)
China called too, but, it was to sell you something and you didn't answer fast enough they moved on to calling India - ya know, a country that has a large population with disposable income.

USA !!! we're number three
USA !!! we're number three
USA !!! we're number three


Hint: it's very easy to look admirable when your nation has free money (petrodollars in Scandinavia) and charges out the ass for the right to live there.
 
2013-03-09 08:39:30 AM

HaywoodJablonski: Hint: it's very easy to look admirable when your nation has free money (petrodollars in Scandinavia) and charges out the ass for the right to live there.


And how would that have anything to do with how women are treated there?
 
2013-03-09 08:42:09 AM

HaywoodJablonski: Hint: it's very easy to look admirable when your nation has free money (petrodollars in Scandinavia) and charges out the ass for the right to live there


yep, same way I feel about the US

// When calculating US tax, include corporate costs, it is still a tax its just paid to someone other than the government, VERY expensive and not at all voluntary... aka tax
 
2013-03-09 08:43:33 AM

thisiszombocom: good for them broads.  those chicks are all right.  heres to womens careers


I don't know who this woman is, but she has nice boobs and that's good enough for me.

What were we taking about?
 
2013-03-09 08:44:04 AM

eatin' fetus: domenad: For a gender seemingly insistent on equality, women sure do expect others to pay a lot of bills for them.

And do you know what's super crazy?! They don't even have a majority in the Congress, they can just barely vote as of like yesterday, and not once, ever has there been a woman president! They are even still doing housework and taking care of their children in this backwards, retarded, stupid ass country! 

I just want a world where women are exactly like men in every single way. Every. Single. Way.


You're into futanari?
 
2013-03-09 08:45:22 AM

ArkyBeagle: Norway? Iceland? Sweden? Canada?

Aren't those places... cold?


Frigid.
 
2013-03-09 08:45:48 AM

Alphax: HaywoodJablonski: Hint: it's very easy to look admirable when your nation has free money (petrodollars in Scandinavia) and charges out the ass for the right to live there.

And how would that have anything to do with how women are treated there?


It's very easy to manage a country with zero problems and a homogenous liberal population in that environment
 
2013-03-09 08:48:41 AM

HaywoodJablonski: Alphax: HaywoodJablonski: Hint: it's very easy to look admirable when your nation has free money (petrodollars in Scandinavia) and charges out the ass for the right to live there.

And how would that have anything to do with how women are treated there?

It's very easy to manage a country with zero problems and a homogenous liberal population in that environment


There's a crapload of other small countries that do it wrong.
 
2013-03-09 08:51:32 AM

HaywoodJablonski: It's very easy to manage a country with zero problems


name such a country
 
2013-03-09 08:52:05 AM

KawaiiNot: True but at least if you get pregnant in those countries you can't be fired, are given time off when the baby is born


You have those guarantees in the US as well.

And while I'm sure there are abuses that are often hard if not impossible to prove, I suspect those same abuses happen in countries like Sweden as well.

I've also seen women abuse maternity leave. The most egregious case was a woman I worked with who got pregnant, took her (3 months IIRC) maternity leave and came back for a whole week after it was up and then quit.

Yeah, she never intended to keep working after her baby was born. IMO, she didn't deserve a single day of maternity leave.
 
2013-03-09 08:53:22 AM

HaywoodJablonski: MmmmBacon: HaywoodJablonski: So by the inverse logic, the greatest place to be a man would be Saudi Arabia, right?

If you hate women, perhaps. I'm thinking of taking a trip to Norway with my wife, to see if it is really as nice as it sounds.

Make sure you bring lots of cash. $15 beers, etc.


How can any country that charges $15 for a beer be considered a good place to live?  They are obviously using the wrong metrics.

/Have been to Norway twice while in the military, decades ago, but beer drinking never was on the agenda sadly.
 
2013-03-09 08:54:16 AM

HaywoodJablonski: a homogenous liberal population


I am a maori, from New Zealand
I am french speaking living in Canada (when I am not working in China, my wife and kids are based there)

research these terms a little

oh who am I kidding

STFU idjut
Take time to learn about the world, its a LOT bigger than you think
 
2013-03-09 09:03:20 AM

Slartibartfaster: HaywoodJablonski: It's very easy to manage a country with zero problems

name such a country


I think it was an episode of TNG.
 
2013-03-09 09:09:44 AM

Evil Mackerel: I think it was an episode of TNG.


Which episode ?

// about to go to bed watching some TNG
/ Chinese TV sucks donkey balls
// not the best part of the donkey to eat, I prefer the hind quarters in a pastry sandwich
 
2013-03-09 09:17:32 AM

12349876: halfof33: 12349876: Stone Meadow: So, you agree with me...thanks. (Hint: don't be such a literalist. I'm trying to make the point that what is achievable in tiny countries doesn't necessarily translate to larger societies, no matter their willingness to engage on the issue. Being CEO of a company in Norway is like being chair of the local board of education in the US...a good place to start earning one's bona fides, but hardly world news.)

You said decent, top 10 isn't decent in my book. Just keep spewing shiat without the research.  I'm sure you think that 27 billion euros of revenue is local school board change (Hint: that's what the CEO of IKEA in Sweden deals with)

That is two weeks revenue for Walmart.

Man you love your bullshiat don't you?

27 billion euros = 35 billion dollars

35 billion dollars into Wal Marts 447 billion = 7.8%

7.8% of a year = 28 days

28 days > 2 weeks



Ok so 4 weeks instead of 2 weeks. Estimating Ikea's revenue as a fraction of Wal-mart's within 4% seems good enough for a Fark discussion. You are just nitpicking and not actually addressing the point.

While we can argue all day about the relative difficulty of managing large diverse countries versus small insular countries (and how irrelevant that may be how women are treated), the underlying issue is that it is very easy to take very good care of your population if you have no appreciable military spending. All of those top 5 countries are spending about 1.5% of GDP on their military while we are spending closer to 5%. That's a difference of hundreds of billions of dollars.
 
2013-03-09 09:44:26 AM

Slartibartfaster: spidermilk: OK sorry but what does having a large population have to do with all the backward laws they invent just to try to make abortions more difficult to obtain?

Also come on people are still really sexist so fark off. You guys are actually joking which doesn't bother me. And I am not a woman who thinks that strippers, porn, Hardees whatever is offensive to women. I don't even give TWO shiatS who does more housework unless the woman is being forced to do it (in reality I think women CARE MORE about housework so they do it more- on their own free will. like men care about their car more so they spend more time washing it or always get the gas). Focusing on this stupid stuff distracts from the real problems like slut shaming or people who think a woman president would break down crying at every meeting.

I hope (and trust) you realize that not all of the males are like this, and I hope (and trust) that you do not think all women are like this.

Time are changing.

Sometimes for the better.

Sexual equality will be a reality soon.

I will fight from my side, you fight from your side, together there will be a better world.
As long as both sides respect each other, we are both special and different.
If either side fights for superiority the other side will fight back.
We (males) are stronger so we have the upper hand, but that strength is only because of the misbehaviour of our fathers.
Forgive us, we did not do it.

I hate feminism though, it pisses me right the hell off - I will not surrender to females, and I do not see the difference between feminism and chauvinism. Anyone who tries to subjugate me will be fought against. Modern feminism is farking offensive.


Definition of  FEMINISM1: the theory of the political, economic, and social equality of the sexes2: organized activity on behalf of women's rights and interestssurrender, asshats!also, I am thinking about having an abortion but to make it fair, I should ask my fetus what is thinks of this first. what, no comment? okay, we're good to go.
 
2013-03-09 09:53:30 AM

Alphax: HaywoodJablonski: Hint: it's very easy to look admirable when your nation has free money (petrodollars in Scandinavia) and charges out the ass for the right to live there.

And how would that have anything to do with how women are treated there?


Since the list was "5 best countries to live in if you are a woman", the metrics used from the article include domestic spending issues like maternal mortality/healthcare, education, childcare costs, and "happiness index". Haywood does have a point, but domestic spending also doesn't necessarily account for the other cited metrics like percentage of female political and business leadership.
 
2013-03-09 10:06:40 AM

ox45tallboy: Come on, Lilly Ledbetter passed! Over tons of objections from Republicans, but it still passed!

Perhaps the writers of the article don't like mandatory and medically unnecessary vaginal wand insertion before a medical procedure?

Or the fact the ERA still hasn't passed?


Or that women still don't have to register for the draft to qualify for student loans, or get a ton "free stuff" thanks to Obamacare because of their gender, have special college courses/areas of study just for their gender, outnumber men in college, still live longer than men, get treated special in the work place due to their ability to spawn and get special rather than equal treatment under the law thanks to  the Violence Against Women Act.  Yup those poor mistreated dames.
 
2013-03-09 10:07:21 AM
"...Norway passed its Gender Equality Act in 1978, long before other countries were concerned about equal rights for women; it's also the first country in the world to have a  Gender Equality Ombud whose main duty is to enforce the act and make sure that jobs in the private and public sectors go equally to men and women."

So, state-sponsered quotas and discrimination based on gender are a good thing?
 
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