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2013-03-08 11:15:49 PM  

A Terrible Human: America isn't on the list either. Maybe the US and Muslim countries aren't really all that different.


What do you mean, controlled by idealistic religious fundamentalist nutjobs intent on oppressing and controlling women based on the writings of some guys from thousands of years ago?

I don't see any resemblance at all.
 
2013-03-08 11:18:01 PM  

Stone Meadow: Okay, ONE out of five countries on the list has a population greater than that of a decent sized urban county in the US. So?

More telling is that in every one of those countries "successful women" are figure heads. They earn less than men, spend more time on domestic chores than men, and in general their success is the result of social experiments, not actual achievement.

IOW, TFA is bullshiat.


Don't get your panties in a wad, Siegfried.
 
2013-03-08 11:20:10 PM  

ox45tallboy: Or the fact the ERA still hasn't passed?


Are you saying that women aren't citizens of the United States and therefore not already covered under the 14th amendment?
 
2013-03-08 11:21:29 PM  

ox45tallboy: Don't get your panties in a wad, Siegfried.


Show me where I'm wrong.
 
2013-03-08 11:22:04 PM  

Stone Meadow: Okay, ONE out of five countries on the list has a population greater than that of a decent sized urban county in the US. So?

More telling is that in every one of those countries "successful women" are figure heads. They earn less than men, spend more time on domestic chores than men, and in general their success is the result of social experiments, not actual achievement.

IOW, TFA is bullshiat.


So that's BS.  Sweden has just about as many people as the largest US county, Los Angeles.  Sweden and Norway and New Zealand would all be third behind LA and Cook Illinois.  Even if you used Metropolitan Statistical Areas, Sweden would be 3rd and Norway and New Zealand in the top 11.
 
2013-03-08 11:23:14 PM  
FTA: and, in spite of the focus on equal rights, when it comes to housework women there still handle the bulk of it

And so what?  The idea that housework needs to be split equally just doesn't make sense.  Or, rather, it only makes sense in a specific situation - where both people work equal hours, and do equal amount of secondary work (ie, yard work, etc) as well.  But that rarely happens.
 
2013-03-08 11:23:47 PM  

ox45tallboy: A Terrible Human: America isn't on the list either. Maybe the US and Muslim countries aren't really all that different.

What do you mean, controlled by idealistic religious fundamentalist nutjobs intent on oppressing and controlling women based on the writings of some guys from thousands of years ago?

I don't see any resemblance at all.


Nor Israel. I sense an astral connection forming.
 
2013-03-08 11:24:05 PM  

thisiszombocom: good for them broads.  those chicks are all right.  heres to womens careers

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she'd look way hotter with a Javelin

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2013-03-08 11:26:31 PM  

SBinRR: The women in the countries listed appear to be highly motivated go getters that have made good lives for themselves.

Well done ladies!


I bet you get laid alot
 
2013-03-08 11:27:23 PM  
Sorry I was just picturing Whore Island.


obscure?
 
2013-03-08 11:27:41 PM  

Lucidz: Why did this get greenlit... Like there are any women on fark...


I bet you don't
 
2013-03-08 11:27:56 PM  

xanadian: Are you saying that women aren't citizens of the United States and therefore not already covered under the 14th amendment?


The 14th is "Equal Protection". ERA is "Equal Rights".
 
2013-03-08 11:28:16 PM  
I'll give Canada credit, but the other four coontries on the list frankly don't matter. You need to compare the top-tier nations to each other.  How does the US stack up against China, Japan, Russia, England, Germany, India, Australia, etc?  No one cares if  nation with the same size population as Rhode Island wins populist paradise of the year.
 
2013-03-08 11:28:46 PM  

Stone Meadow: Okay, ONE out of five countries on the list has a population greater than that of a decent sized urban county in the US. So?

More telling is that in every one of those countries "successful women" are figure heads. They earn less than men, spend more time on domestic chores than men, and in general their success is the result of social experiments, not actual achievement.

IOW, TFA is bullshiat.


Those women in parliament were voted into office, not because of some social experiment. I assume you're supportive of free elections.
 
2013-03-08 11:30:27 PM  
let me guess, the "men" in those countries are pussies...

clicks..

yup
 
2013-03-08 11:30:52 PM  

Abox: I'm sexist but in a sort of positive way.  I cut women slack for the crazy since they shoulder the heavier sexual load.


I bet you have a blow up doll and call her Zelda
 
2013-03-08 11:30:54 PM  
Women are just as capable of evil, incompetence, and poor decision making as men.
 
2013-03-08 11:33:41 PM  

Stone Meadow: Show me where I'm wrong.


Okay, I'll bold the part below where you're wrong to make it easier for you to see.

Stone Meadow: Okay, ONE out of five countries on the list has a population greater than that of a decent sized urban county in the US. So?

More telling is that in every one of those countries "successful women" are figure heads. They earn less than men, spend more time on domestic chores than men, and in general their success is the result of social experiments, not actual achievement.

IOW, TFA is bullshiat.

 
2013-03-08 11:35:09 PM  

12349876: Stone Meadow: Okay, ONE out of five countries on the list has a population greater than that of a decent sized urban county in the US. So?

So that's BS.  Sweden has just about as many people as the largest US county, Los Angeles.  Sweden and Norway and New Zealand would all be third behind LA and Cook Illinois.  Even if you used Metropolitan Statistical Areas, Sweden would be 3rd and Norway and New Zealand in the top 11.


So, you agree with me...thanks. (Hint: don't be such a literalist. I'm trying to make the point that what is achievable in tiny countries doesn't necessarily translate to larger societies, no matter their willingness to engage on the issue. Being CEO of a company in Norway is like being chair of the local board of education in the US...a good place to start earning one's bona fides, but hardly world news.)
 
2013-03-08 11:35:22 PM  

HotWingAgenda: I'll give Canada credit, but the other four coontries on the list frankly don't matter. You need to compare the top-tier nations to each other.  How does the US stack up against China, Japan, Russia, England, Germany, India, Australia, etc?  No one cares if  nation with the same size population as Rhode Island wins populist paradise of the year.


The people living there do.

Doesn't it make sense to look at the ways tons of different people do things in order to learn more about what works and what doesn't?

Are you saying that the US is too big to treat women better?
 
2013-03-08 11:36:03 PM  
I fixed the headline

"The five best countries to live in if you are a white woman. "
 
2013-03-08 11:37:12 PM  

Pivot: I bet you have a blow up doll and call her Zelda


Hey! What's wrong with that?

/and it's Zeldy for short. Okay, it's not shorter, it's more of an affectionate nickname. Like Bruce.
 
2013-03-08 11:37:13 PM  

ox45tallboy: Stone Meadow: Show me where I'm wrong.

Okay, I'll bold the part below where you're wrong to make it easier for you to see.

Stone Meadow: Okay, ONE out of five countries on the list has a population greater than that of a decent sized urban county in the US. So?

More telling is that in every one of those countries "successful women" are figure heads. They earn less than men, spend more time on domestic chores than men, and in general their success is the result of social experiments, not actual achievement.

IOW, TFA is bullshiat.


Hey...seriously, I LOL'd. Now get real.
 
2013-03-08 11:37:36 PM  
Americas influence in the world makes it possible for those 5 countries to be who they are.

/no thanks required
 
2013-03-08 11:38:06 PM  
Uzbekibekibekistan?

Whatever. We still have the highest per capita incarceration rate in the world. USA! USA! USA!
 
2013-03-08 11:38:48 PM  

Stone Meadow: Okay, ONE out of five countries on the list has a population greater than that of a decent sized urban county in the US. So?

More telling is that in every one of those countries "successful women" are figure heads. They earn less than men, spend more time on domestic chores than men, and in general their success is the result of social experiments, not actual achievement.

IOW, TFA is bullshiat.


Everyone female on that list is a figurehead? I have no words for your ignorance or small dick syndrome
 
2013-03-08 11:42:03 PM  

thisiszombocom: in before angry white male demanding an international men's day


Why would white males be angry about this? The study asserts the best places for women to live is a country run by white males with a a large, homogenous white population.
 
2013-03-08 11:43:19 PM  

mrlewish: I fixed the headline

"The five best countries to live in if you are a white woman. "


Also, Dude, white is not the preferred nomenclature. Caucasian-American, please.
4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-03-08 11:43:24 PM  

Stone Meadow: So, you agree with me...thanks. (Hint: don't be such a literalist. I'm trying to make the point that what is achievable in tiny countries doesn't necessarily translate to larger societies, no matter their willingness to engage on the issue. Being CEO of a company in Norway is like being chair of the local board of education in the US...a good place to start earning one's bona fides, but hardly world news.)


You said decent, top 10 isn't decent in my book. Just keep spewing shiat without the research.  I'm sure you think that 27 billion euros of revenue is local school board change (Hint: that's what the CEO of IKEA in Sweden deals with)
 
2013-03-08 11:43:25 PM  

ox45tallboy: HotWingAgenda: I'll give Canada credit, but the other four coontries on the list frankly don't matter. You need to compare the top-tier nations to each other.  How does the US stack up against China, Japan, Russia, England, Germany, India, Australia, etc?  No one cares if  nation with the same size population as Rhode Island wins populist paradise of the year.

The people living there do.

Doesn't it make sense to look at the ways tons of different people do things in order to learn more about what works and what doesn't?

Are you saying that the US is too big to treat women better?


I'm saying scale and proportionality matters.  You have to compare apples to apples.  There are many nations where a female Prime Minister  would not have nearly as much global political power or global cultural influence as a female senator or representative in the US.
 
2013-03-08 11:44:35 PM  

Stone Meadow: Hey...seriously, I LOL'd. Now get real.


Fine. Three out of the five (Canada, Sweden, and Iceland) all have larger populations than ANY urban area in the US, and the other two have larger populations than any single county, so you're absolutely, unequivocally wrong on the first part.

The fact that you refer to the democratically elected head of a state of a country as a "figurehead" is ridiculous. Do you really believe there is really some man behind her, pulling the strings? Does this stem from your belief that women are incapable of performing the job of head of state, or that you believe that just the particular women described in the article are incapable, but others might be?

What is so bad about a "social experiment"? Isn't that what they called the US Constitution when it first came into being?

You know what they call a "social experiment" that works?

A country.

And finally your opinion that TFA is bullsh*t. Well, since you're so obviously wrong about everything you've said so far, I'd say your rationale for for your opinion is nonexistent.

I wasn't joking, I really did bold the parts where you are wrong.
 
2013-03-08 11:44:56 PM  

Pivot: Everyone female on that list is a figurehead? I have no words for your ignorance or small dick syndrome


Don't tell me you're that stupid...nobody hangs out on Fark on a Friday night that's that stupid.
 
2013-03-08 11:46:15 PM  

mrlewish: I fixed the headline

"The five best countries to live in if you are a white woman. "


The 30 per cent of women in New Zealand who are not white might like to have a word with you, cuzzie bro.
 
2013-03-08 11:47:21 PM  
OK sorry but what does having a large population have to do with all the backward laws they invent just to try to make abortions more difficult to obtain?

Also come on people are still really sexist so fark off. You guys are actually joking which doesn't bother me. And I am not a woman who thinks that strippers, porn, Hardees whatever is offensive to women. I don't even give TWO shiatS who does more housework unless the woman is being forced to do it (in reality I think women CARE MORE about housework so they do it more- on their own free will. like men care about their car more so they spend more time washing it or always get the gas). Focusing on this stupid stuff distracts from the real problems like slut shaming or people who think a woman president would break down crying at every meeting.
 
2013-03-08 11:48:03 PM  

HotWingAgenda: I'm saying scale and proportionality matters. You have to compare apples to apples. There are many nations where a female Prime Minister would not have nearly as much global political power or global cultural influence as a female senator or representative in the US.


So the US is simply too big and/or too influential to treat women better. Once you hit a certain population, or a certain GDP, or a certain influence in the world, you just simply have to start treating women worse than men, otherwise your society collapses.

Got it.

You are a silly poster and you bring a silly argument to this discussion.
 
2013-03-08 11:52:13 PM  

ox45tallboy: Fine. Three out of the five (Canada, Sweden, and Iceland) all have larger populations than ANY urban area in the US, and the other two have larger populations than any single county, so you're absolutely, unequivocally wrong on the first part.


Want to try again? Iceland's population is 320,000...wouldn't even come close to the top 100 counties in the US...maybe not the top 1000.

As for Sweden...might make the top 5.

My point stands.
 
2013-03-08 11:52:22 PM  

ox45tallboy: Stone Meadow: Hey...seriously, I LOL'd. Now get real.

Fine. Three out of the five (Canada, Sweden, and Iceland) all have larger populations than ANY urban area in the US, and the other two have larger populations than any single county, so you're absolutely, unequivocally wrong on the first part.

The fact that you refer to the democratically elected head of a state of a country as a "figurehead" is ridiculous. Do you really believe there is really some man behind her, pulling the strings? Does this stem from your belief that women are incapable of performing the job of head of state, or that you believe that just the particular women described in the article are incapable, but others might be?

What is so bad about a "social experiment"? Isn't that what they called the US Constitution when it first came into being?

You know what they call a "social experiment" that works?

A country.

And finally your opinion that TFA is bullsh*t. Well, since you're so obviously wrong about everything you've said so far, I'd say your rationale for for your opinion is nonexistent.

I wasn't joking, I really did bold the parts where you are wrong.


Ok oxie, I may have misread or misinterpreted the post I replied to earlier

// you go Bruce

XO
 
2013-03-08 11:52:36 PM  
I've been to all those countries, and they do not have better sandwiches.
 
2013-03-08 11:53:15 PM  

spidermilk: Focusing on this stupid stuff distracts from the real problems like slut shaming or people who think a woman president would break down crying at every meeting.


Oh my God, my period!
 
2013-03-08 11:54:15 PM  

12349876: Stone Meadow: So, you agree with me...thanks. (Hint: don't be such a literalist. I'm trying to make the point that what is achievable in tiny countries doesn't necessarily translate to larger societies, no matter their willingness to engage on the issue. Being CEO of a company in Norway is like being chair of the local board of education in the US...a good place to start earning one's bona fides, but hardly world news.)

You said decent, top 10 isn't decent in my book. Just keep spewing shiat without the research.  I'm sure you think that 27 billion euros of revenue is local school board change (Hint: that's what the CEO of IKEA in Sweden deals with)


That is two weeks revenue for Walmart.
 
2013-03-08 11:58:13 PM  

Stone Meadow: Want to try again? Iceland's population is 320,000...wouldn't even come close to the top 100 counties in the US...maybe not the top 1000.

As for Sweden...might make the top 5.

My point stands.


this, i.e. I thought that was wrong
 
2013-03-08 11:59:45 PM  
Coincidentally, also the 5 countries where you are most likely to be falsely accused of rape.
 
2013-03-09 12:04:38 AM  

Stone Meadow: ox45tallboy: Fine. Three out of the five (Canada, Sweden, and Iceland) all have larger populations than ANY urban area in the US, and the other two have larger populations than any single county, so you're absolutely, unequivocally wrong on the first part.

Want to try again? Iceland's population is 320,000...wouldn't even come close to the top 100 counties in the US...maybe not the top 1000.

As for Sweden...might make the top 5.

My point stands.


No, it doesn't. And it's borderline retarded. And your vehement defense of it makes you seem like an asshole.
 
2013-03-09 12:05:16 AM  

Stone Meadow: ox45tallboy: Fine. Three out of the five (Canada, Sweden, and Iceland) all have larger populations than ANY urban area in the US, and the other two have larger populations than any single county, so you're absolutely, unequivocally wrong on the first part.

Want to try again? Iceland's population is 320,000...wouldn't even come close to the top 100 counties in the US...maybe not the top 1000.

As for Sweden...might make the top 5.

My point stands.


Ha.

You're right about Iceland being roughly 320,000.

Other than that:

Norway - 5,000,000
Iceland - 320,000
Sweden - 9,500,000
Canada - 34,500,00
New Zealand - 4,400,000

Most populous counties in the US:

Los Angeles - 9,800,000
Cook Co. IL (Chicago) - 5,200,000
Harris County TX (Houston) - 4,100,000

And it goes down from there. Although I was wrong about the population of two of the countries, you are far more wrong when you say

Stone Meadow: Okay, ONE out of five countries on the list has a population greater than that of a decent sized urban county in the US.


Keep in mind that four out of the five countries have higher populations than the third largest county in the US, so unless you want to try and weasel out by saying "well, by decent-sized I only meant the top 2 out of the 3,143 in the United States."

Your point is wrong, and you are a silly poster for having said such a silly thing.
 
2013-03-09 12:06:51 AM  
Things that need to be organized:

Straight Pride Parade
White History Month
International Mens Day
The opposite of maternity leave for men who don't have children.  Every few years, men and women who don't have babies get a party at work where everyone buys stuff that he registers for, like beer and beef jerky, they give him a party and six weeks paid vacation.
 
2013-03-09 12:07:30 AM  
Maybe I am am my period but men like stoner meadow (oh sorry did I get that wrong?) make me almost weep for North America, we can't even agree that we are equal (even tho I have a vagina and a Canadian passport). No wonder the Terrorists are making an impact, even we don't like each other
 
2013-03-09 12:09:33 AM  

Great Janitor: Things that need to be organized:

Straight Pride Parade
White History Month
International Mens Day
The opposite of maternity leave for men who don't have children.  Every few years, men and women who don't have babies get a party at work where everyone buys stuff that he registers for, like beer and beef jerky, they give him a party and six weeks paid vacation.


And of course on 14 March we must celebrate (NSFW): http://www.steakandbj.org/
 
2013-03-09 12:12:37 AM  

HotWingAgenda: ox45tallboy: HotWingAgenda: I'll give Canada credit, but the other four coontries on the list frankly don't matter. You need to compare the top-tier nations to each other.  How does the US stack up against China, Japan, Russia, England, Germany, India, Australia, etc?  No one cares if  nation with the same size population as Rhode Island wins populist paradise of the year.

The people living there do.

Doesn't it make sense to look at the ways tons of different people do things in order to learn more about what works and what doesn't?

Are you saying that the US is too big to treat women better?

I'm saying scale and proportionality matters.  You have to compare apples to apples.  There are many nations where a female Prime Minister  would not have nearly as much global political power or global cultural influence as a female senator or representative in the US.



Fine, let's look at Australia then, the 12th ranked economy in the world by GDP and which could easily be compared to New Zealand and Canada on many of these metrics. We rank up there with NZ and Canada on the Economist's glass ceiling index. Our maternity leave provisions probably let us down and our proportion of female elected representatives is not the greatest, but we do have a female prime minister who is not a figurehead in any way. (That's the Queen. Har har.)

We outrank the US on many of these measures. But then, we only have a population of 22 million, less than the population of California or Texas, so we aren't important, amirite?
 
2013-03-09 12:15:08 AM  

halfof33: let me guess, the "men" in those countries are pussies...

clicks..

yup


4 countries full of descendants of badass seafarers with warrior cultures (Maori, Viking).  Yeah, you should be so fortunate to hold one of their manpurses.

spidermilk: OK sorry but what does having a large population have to do with all the backward laws they invent just to try to make abortions more difficult to obtain?

Also come on people are still really sexist so fark off. You guys are actually joking which doesn't bother me. And I am not a woman who thinks that strippers, porn, Hardees whatever is offensive to women. I don't even give TWO shiatS who does more housework unless the woman is being forced to do it (in reality I think women CARE MORE about housework so they do it more- on their own free will. like men care about their car more so they spend more time washing it or always get the gas). Focusing on this stupid stuff distracts from the real problems like slut shaming or people who think a woman president would break down crying at every meeting.


This. Our cultural attitudes need some serious recalibration.  The more people try, the harder and more shrill the backlash.
 
2013-03-09 12:16:05 AM  

halfof33: 12349876: Stone Meadow: So, you agree with me...thanks. (Hint: don't be such a literalist. I'm trying to make the point that what is achievable in tiny countries doesn't necessarily translate to larger societies, no matter their willingness to engage on the issue. Being CEO of a company in Norway is like being chair of the local board of education in the US...a good place to start earning one's bona fides, but hardly world news.)

You said decent, top 10 isn't decent in my book. Just keep spewing shiat without the research.  I'm sure you think that 27 billion euros of revenue is local school board change (Hint: that's what the CEO of IKEA in Sweden deals with)

That is two weeks revenue for Walmart.


Man you love your bullshiat don't you?

27 billion euros = 35 billion dollars

35 billion dollars into Wal Marts 447 billion = 7.8%

7.8% of a year = 28 days

28 days > 2 weeks
 
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