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2013-03-08 09:28:26 PM
3 votes:
Random thoughts:
If somebody commits adultery, leave them. Don't go on a shooting spree.

Murder is worse than adultery.

If you based your whole identity on your spouse's faithfulness, you have problems.
2013-03-08 08:32:04 PM
3 votes:

atomicmask: Up until around 80 years ago, this was considered a personally reasonable reason to shoot another man.

For some reason, the current generations have found no reason to fight, or defend anything they love or care for. It is a great grey blur of violations against one another and victims unable to reprise those who offend them.


So you yearn for the days when murder was the just and proper response to adultery? I believe that Afghanistan, Iran or Saudi Arabia is lovely this time of year.
2013-03-08 08:16:55 PM
3 votes:
Host of "A Rifleman's Journal" TV show shot and killed when local man feels his wife takes too keen an interest in victim's rifle

That seems like an overly complicated headline.  Wouldn't it be simpler to just say "Gun nut shot and killed by another gun nut"?
2013-03-08 06:51:02 PM
3 votes:

dr_blasto: violentsalvation: Link

"The former editor ofGuns & Ammo magazine is accused of using a gun and ammo to kill a man visiting his house yesterday."

Heh.


I used to enjoy his articles and how he'd dismantle the anti-gun talking points.

And then the jackass became an anti-gun talking point.
2013-03-10 12:49:21 AM
2 votes:

lakefivedi: Wayne loved her and his child so very much, he would and did die for them.


No. He beat his wife and abandon his kid. He loved no one but himself. He's not sad or tragic, he's just another asshole.
2013-03-09 06:13:29 PM
2 votes:
http://www.flatheadbeacon.com/articles/article/changing_the_way_peopl e _think_about_rifles/30399

swangoatman: lakefivedi: I knew the shooter.  He was as decent of a man that any could find.  This situation is tragic and his wife now has to live with the fact.  He loved her so much and was very happy the other day at breakfast with his son & buddies.  She is totally to blame.  Wayne was a lovable soul and the photo they show is kinda a smurk. But what better guy to kill than an animal killing pompus ass?  RIP Wayne.


If the poster who knew the man could give us all an update (follow up please GREEN) when the smoke clears I would appreciate it.
And sorrow for your loss of a friend.


The Bengston's are a very well established reputable family.  So many people in the community know Wayne and or Lindsey or someone else that does.  It has shocked all.  But I haven't heard any other news from official sources.  It is sad and a shame that some finely breed Montana men cannot accept the fact of infidelity.  I believe the son is his, of course there are others who wonder.  I met Lindsey about 10 years ago when she was with a different man...she broke his heart.  I know of women who don't want the men they are dating around her.  I have done a couple minor favors for her myself, and she was fun to party with.  I don't believe Mr. TV guy and her were discussing business.  Wayne loved her and his child so very much, he would and did die for them.  A lot of local men seem to think he should have shot her also, I find it much better revenge not to.  And poetic justice for the animal killer.  If I hear more I'll let you know...
2013-03-09 01:10:46 AM
2 votes:

theorellior: atomicmask: No, murder is premeditated violence with the intent to kill against someone. A crime of passion is if you walk in, catch the guy, and plug him in the head with a bullet.

So you're saying one is okay then?


Yes.   If you dont want to roll the dice and take a chance that someone shoots you in the head, then go bang your own wife.
2013-03-08 10:40:48 PM
2 votes:
The most significant thing this guy ever did, the only thing he'll be remembered for.

And his ultimate advice to his two-year-old son:

"Whenever you're badly embarrassed, just kill yourself. Your kids can just look out for themselves."
2013-03-08 09:28:08 PM
2 votes:

Bung_Howdy: "The accused shot the man, then beat his wife, took his 2-year-old son to a relative's house and drove to his home about 25 miles away in West Glacier, where he apparently killed himself, Whitefish police said."

The fact he beat his wife and did NOT kill his son (or wife for that matter) paints him as poor schlub who just lost it when he found out the guy was farking his wife (as opposed to your typical crazy nowadays)- Bet she'll have a tough time dealing with that when sonny boy gets older and wants more details on the day Dad killed himself-

/guilt can be a biatch


or...or he coulda swallowed his pride and got a divorce..you know,for Sonny Boys sake..
2013-03-08 08:54:04 PM
2 votes:

Infernalist: atomicmask: Tak the Hideous New Girl: atomicmask: Up until around 80 years ago, this was considered a personally reasonable reason to shoot another man.

For some reason, the current generations have found no reason to fight, or defend anything they love or care for. It is a great grey blur of violations against one another and victims unable to reprise those who offend them.

So you yearn for the days when murder was the just and proper response to adultery? I believe that Afghanistan, Iran or Saudi Arabia is lovely this time of year.

I yearn for a time in which adults could decide for themselves if something was right and wrong without 300 people in beaucracy deciding for them. Murder was still against the law, murder in cold blood was punishable by death. However you could resolve problems at the lowest level, between the two who actually have a problem.

What I managed to get from your post is that you want to be able to shoot someone when they do something to piss you off, and not get in trouble.


All I got was he has mommy issues.
2013-03-08 08:39:01 PM
2 votes:
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2013-03-08 08:18:48 PM
2 votes:

ecmoRandomNumbers: Want your kid to kill somebody someday? Name him Wayne.


I think that all goes back to fathers who idolized The Duke and then parented the way they think he would.  Their kids grow up broken sociopaths.
2013-03-08 08:10:27 PM
2 votes:
Another responsible gun owner sacrifices innocent victims in the name of Constitutional Freedoms.
2013-03-08 07:52:42 PM
2 votes:

violentsalvation: dr_blasto: violentsalvation: Link

"The former editor ofGuns & Ammo magazine is accused of using a gun and ammo to kill a man visiting his house yesterday."

Heh.

I used to enjoy his articles and how he'd dismantle the anti-gun talking points.

And then the jackass became an anti-gun talking point.


The expression of something other than the literal intention! That. Is. Irony!
2013-03-09 01:48:32 PM
1 votes:

Infernalist: atomicmask: Tak the Hideous New Girl: atomicmask: Up until around 80 years ago, this was considered a personally reasonable reason to shoot another man.

For some reason, the current generations have found no reason to fight, or defend anything they love or care for. It is a great grey blur of violations against one another and victims unable to reprise those who offend them.

So you yearn for the days when murder was the just and proper response to adultery? I believe that Afghanistan, Iran or Saudi Arabia is lovely this time of year.

I yearn for a time in which adults could decide for themselves if something was right and wrong without 300 people in beaucracy deciding for them. Murder was still against the law, murder in cold blood was punishable by death. However you could resolve problems at the lowest level, between the two who actually have a problem.

What I managed to get from your post is that you want to be able to shoot someone when they do something to piss you off, and not get in trouble.


Not to change the subject, but if you switched the genders around in the musical "Chicago", had two men kill a cheating woman, and then have them sing "She Had It Coming", I suppose that THEN it would be reprehensible instead of empowering, amirite?
DuX
2013-03-09 03:37:24 AM
1 votes:
Ladies, this is why you never marry a man with a small peener.
It always ends badly.

Is it just me or do men who have the most problems with "de ladies" seem to fetishize their guns more than your average gun whacko?
2013-03-09 01:31:05 AM
1 votes:

lakefivedi: I knew the shooter.  He was as decent of a man that any could find.  This situation is tragic and his wife now has to live with the fact.  He loved her so much and was very happy the other day at breakfast with his son & buddies.  She is totally to blame.  Wayne was a lovable soul and the photo they show is kinda a smurk. But what better guy to kill than an animal killing pompus ass?  RIP Wayne.


And so stable that instead of counselling, or a divorce, he shoots the adulterous man, and then puts a bullet in his own head, depriving his son of his love forever. Not the action of a sweet man at all. There's wrong ( adultery) and then there's WRONG.
2013-03-09 01:28:51 AM
1 votes:

atomicmask: We had presidents have duels over minor things, even insults, its twats like you who think america=modern pathetic society.


Well, we had two (Jackson and Lincoln, and in the latter's case he managed to persuade the guy it was a really bad idea).

You'll notice we had such duels back when weapons were really shiatty, and it was rare to actually hit your opponent. Burr was surprised he hit Hamilton.  Lincoln managed to avoid a duel by picking swords instead of the usual smooth-bore pistols.

Once weapons became good enough that someone was probably going to get killed, the tradition stopped completely.

So, really, not a parallel to pulling out the trusty Bushmaster and shooting your wife's bushmaster.
2013-03-09 01:22:52 AM
1 votes:
2013-03-09 01:06:46 AM
1 votes:
While I don't agree with everything atomicmask is saying, some of what he says does make sense. Right or wrong, there are consequences to every action. What would you do if your whole life, (family, happiness, marriage) was blown up in an instant. Your dreams, everything you had hoped for gone... there is a significant segment of the population who just aren't equipped to handle that type of cluster*
2013-03-09 01:05:14 AM
1 votes:

BummerDuck: angrymonday: You should get a free pass for killing the person your spouse is cheating with. Some people deserve killing.

Funny, I was gonna say I know a few guys that would quickly take out a camera, take some shots, thank the guy, and file for a divorce.

No love left in their marriages, and getting a divorce without something like this is financial death for the guy.

It seems unfortunate that this guy must have actually still loved his wife, but she didn't give a fark about him. She caused the death of 2 people. Hope she is proud of her accomplishment.



Yeah, man kills another man and himself, but it's the WOMAN's fault.

You've managed to post the most hateful AND stupid comment in this thread so far, and that's WITH atomicmask doing his best.   Hope you are proud of your accomplishment.
2013-03-09 12:14:34 AM
1 votes:

Waxing_Chewbacca: I'd try but I don't speak fluent idiot


It's easy.  Just forget that you know the difference between then and than, and when faced with facts and logic, double down on the stupid!!!!
2013-03-09 12:09:46 AM
1 votes:
This just can't be.  All gun owners are responsible people who would never do anything like that.
2013-03-08 11:42:55 PM
1 votes:
I'd try but I don't speak fluent idiot
2013-03-08 11:16:00 PM
1 votes:
  P.S.   I live in a small town and I've often heard it said...You don't lose your wife..You just lose your turn.
2013-03-08 11:14:26 PM
1 votes:

Waxing_Chewbacca: James F. Campbell: atomicmask: James F. Campbell: atomicmask: Offend? Offense is when someone calls you a twat or a weakling, WRONG is when you fark someones wife. You WRONG a man when you do that. If you can't see the difference then yes, you are a weak little person.

Maybe if you were more of a man, you wouldn't be so insecure about it... friend.

Maybe, but im enough of a man to stand up for myself, and not let half men try to define me.

Yes, show those Internet people a thing or two. That will prove your manhood.

I think Wyatt Earp might just be a closet case


His comment about gay bars did seem to come out of the blue... maybe he secretly wants to be a cuckold.
2013-03-08 11:09:59 PM
1 votes:

BarkingUnicorn: dr_blasto: dj_bigbird: It wasn't clear how Rodriguez and the woman were acquainted.

Yeah, sure. Rodriguez was probably putting bullets in her, if ya know what I mean.

They had an explosive relationship.

Bullets mushroomed, too.


In the end, their feelings were hollow, point is that she was banging this guy for that high-velocity feeling since they pulled the trigger on taking their relationship to this level and her husband was clearly off-target in meeting her needs.
2013-03-08 11:09:18 PM
1 votes:

James F. Campbell: atomicmask: James F. Campbell: atomicmask: Offend? Offense is when someone calls you a twat or a weakling, WRONG is when you fark someones wife. You WRONG a man when you do that. If you can't see the difference then yes, you are a weak little person.

Maybe if you were more of a man, you wouldn't be so insecure about it... friend.

Maybe, but im enough of a man to stand up for myself, and not let half men try to define me.

Yes, show those Internet people a thing or two. That will prove your manhood.


I think Wyatt Earp might just be a closet case
2013-03-08 11:07:16 PM
1 votes:

atomicmask: For the past 50,000+ years, stuff like a mans honor, dignity, and freedom is what has mattered. Dishonoring a man by sleeping with his wife was something you fought to the death over. Taking his dignity was equally worth fighting and dying over. Again I have yet to see a reasonable excuse for as to why these things are no longer important. I have only seen a trend in trying to de-fang the rights of humans in general. You shouldn't ever get mad, just take it with a solumn sigh and let the world fark your wife, your life, your job, your family...I mean what do YOU lose when this happens? not like the poor guys family was going to fall apart, his kids were going to go threw a horrible divorce, his son would see his father emasculated by this, or anything.

Ultra-libs...nothing is sacred or worth fighting for.


Wow... You must be a hoot at parties there Hoss.
2013-03-08 11:01:43 PM
1 votes:

atomicmask: MaliFinn: atomicmask: Still waiting for you social justice asstards to tell me why the law is all knowing and all seeing and right in all cases, yet the civil rights movement (which disobeyed the law in order for a just cause) is acceptable.

If you need to have that explained to you then you clearly don't understand America.

Friend I am the one drawing on all of american history for my side of the argument. We had presidents have duels over minor things, even insults, its twats like you who think america=modern pathetic society.


American history is filled with injustice and then corrections to injustice.  You can't pick and choose which pieces you like, you need to abide by the law and make change within the system.  As for the civil rights movement, the most effective part of the movement was the civil and nonviolent assembly of people exercising their free speech.  Eventually, the government stopped murdering Indians.  Eventually, women were allowed to vote.  Eventually, racial equality became the law of the land.  We are no longer burning Salem's witches, or owning slaves, or exerting gender dominance.  We're in continual pursuit of a more perfect union, and part of that means you can't shoot people who fark your wife.
2013-03-08 10:59:08 PM
1 votes:

atomicmask: Besides a wife, family, the respect of his son, respect from co-workers and others. I mean, he lost all that, but NOTHING you value right?


You can't make someone love you, you sociopathic guttershiate.
2013-03-08 10:52:37 PM
1 votes:
i'm loving the posts thinking the guy & other guys wife were having cake and coffee at the dining room table of her Mom's house while pouring over the HS year book innocently recalling old times. morans.
2013-03-08 10:50:33 PM
1 votes:

atomicmask: AcesFull: atomicmask: Up until around 80 years ago, this was considered a personally reasonable reason to shoot another man.

For some reason, the current generations have found no reason to fight, or defend anything they love or care for. It is a great grey blur of violations against one another and victims unable to reprise those who offend them.

     The moment the husband realized she was farking someone else..he had nothing to defend or love..PERIOD!   If she's unhappy and needing someone else...You can murder a hundred people but nothing will change her being unsatisfied wth you...

If she was unhappy, she should divorce. And you are wrong, and I disagree, he had his honor and dignity to defend. If she would have said she was divorcing him and moved out, then yeah he wouldn't have much to be mad about, but she was farking someone behind his back.


   Let me put it this way...why would anyone want someone who is unhappy with them?  Is it so noble to have a big sign in your yard that says..I WILL MURDER ANYONE WHO FARKS MY WIFE...  I'm sorry guy but this fellow got his pride hurt by an unfaithful wife...And he couldn't take the heat.  He shoulda walked..He lost nothing.
2013-03-08 10:48:50 PM
1 votes:
Still waiting for you social justice asstards to tell me why the law is all knowing and all seeing and right in all cases, yet the civil rights movement (which disobeyed the law in order for a just cause) is acceptable.
2013-03-08 10:47:23 PM
1 votes:

atomicmask: MaliFinn: atomicmask: MaliFinn: atomicmask: MaliFinn: atomicmask: Offend? Offense is when someone calls you a twat or a weakling, WRONG is when you fark someones wife. You WRONG a man when you do that. If you can't see the difference then yes, you are a weak little person.

Let me explain this to you really simple-like.

Your wife.  Her.
She can do whatever she wants, and there isn't shiat you can do about it.
She can go from one end of the block to the other sucking dicks, come home and vomit on you, then go back out and fark the other side of the street and there's NOT A farkING THING you can do about it.
The only thing she stands to lose is you.  And if that doesn't sound like a penalty to her, then maybe you should treat her better.


Thank you for describing everything wrong with our society currently. The fact that a woman can behave like that, and the man can do nothing is wrong. especially if the man behaves on equal terms, vomiting on the woman and then she can turn around and hit him or strike or even shoot or stab and be considered empowered is farking stupid. That is not equality.

Your are mistaken if you ever think that you own your wife or can control her behavior, no more than she would be if she felt the same about you or tried to control your life.  Marital property laws do not mean what you think they mean.
2013-03-08 10:43:08 PM
1 votes:

atomicmask: MaliFinn: atomicmask: MaliFinn: atomicmask: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: You guys really want to throw a halo on a murderer, wife-beater and ultimate deadbeat dad?

This is exactly the kind of loser who thinks a gun makes him a man and will punish the world when it doesn't turn his way.

You really wanna treat a cheating disgraceful wife and a back stabbing wife stealer like a victim?

Ok, he's not a vicitm.  Murder is now the appropriate punishment for adultery?  Me and the other dozen folks will wait outside while the rest of you finish killing each other off then.

I think there are reactions to every action. fark a mans wife and you roll the dice of maybe getting your head blown off. He rolled the dice and came up snake eyes. Don't pretend he is an innocent little victim or the husband was in the wrong, unless you are such a weak little person that you take indignities like that with a soft sigh and shuffle your way off to listen quietly in the hall.

Yes, I'm a weak little person because I don't murder people who offend me.
Were you raised by Hitler?

Offend? Offense is when someone calls you a twat or a weakling, WRONG is when you fark someones wife. You WRONG a man when you do that. If you can't see the difference then yes, you are a weak little person.


Let me explain this to you really simple-like.

Your wife.  Her.
She can do whatever she wants, and there isn't shiat you can do about it.
She can go from one end of the block to the other sucking dicks, come home and vomit on you, then go back out and fark the other side of the street and there's NOT A farkING THING you can do about it.
The only thing she stands to lose is you.  And if that doesn't sound like a penalty to her, then maybe you should treat her better.
2013-03-08 10:31:08 PM
1 votes:

atomicmask: Up until around 80 years ago, this was considered a personally reasonable reason to shoot another man.

For some reason, the current generations have found no reason to fight, or defend anything they love or care for. It is a great grey blur of violations against one another and victims unable to reprise those who offend them.


     The moment the husband realized she was farking someone else..he had nothing to defend or love..PERIOD!   If she's unhappy and needing someone else...You can murder a hundred people but nothing will change her being unsatisfied wth you...
2013-03-08 10:27:49 PM
1 votes:

MaliFinn: atomicmask: MaliFinn: atomicmask: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: You guys really want to throw a halo on a murderer, wife-beater and ultimate deadbeat dad?

This is exactly the kind of loser who thinks a gun makes him a man and will punish the world when it doesn't turn his way.

You really wanna treat a cheating disgraceful wife and a back stabbing wife stealer like a victim?

Ok, he's not a vicitm.  Murder is now the appropriate punishment for adultery?  Me and the other dozen folks will wait outside while the rest of you finish killing each other off then.

I think there are reactions to every action. fark a mans wife and you roll the dice of maybe getting your head blown off. He rolled the dice and came up snake eyes. Don't pretend he is an innocent little victim or the husband was in the wrong, unless you are such a weak little person that you take indignities like that with a soft sigh and shuffle your way off to listen quietly in the hall.

Yes, I'm a weak little person because I don't murder people who offend me.
Were you raised by Hitler?


Offend? Offense is when someone calls you a twat or a weakling, WRONG is when you fark someones wife. You WRONG a man when you do that. If you can't see the difference then yes, you are a weak little person.
2013-03-08 10:17:30 PM
1 votes:

atomicmask: I think there are reactions to every action. fark a mans wife and you roll the dice of maybe getting your head blown off. He rolled the dice and came up snake eyes. Don't pretend he is an innocent little victim or the husband was in the wrong, unless you are such a weak little person that you take indignities like that with a soft sigh and shuffle your way off to listen quietly in the hall.


Then go break out men who do such things out of prison. Free them, if they're convicted for it.

OR are you a coward, too afraid to stand up for those you deem have been wronged by society?

Coward.
2013-03-08 10:13:45 PM
1 votes:

atomicmask: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: You guys really want to throw a halo on a murderer, wife-beater and ultimate deadbeat dad?

This is exactly the kind of loser who thinks a gun makes him a man and will punish the world when it doesn't turn his way.

You really wanna treat a cheating disgraceful wife and a back stabbing wife stealer like a victim?


Ok, he's not a vicitm.  Murder is now the appropriate punishment for adultery?  Me and the other dozen folks will wait outside while the rest of you finish killing each other off then.
2013-03-08 10:11:47 PM
1 votes:

atomicmask: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: You guys really want to throw a halo on a murderer, wife-beater and ultimate deadbeat dad?

This is exactly the kind of loser who thinks a gun makes him a man and will punish the world when it doesn't turn his way.

You really wanna treat a cheating disgraceful wife and a back stabbing wife stealer like a victim?


Maybe if mommy had breastfed you a little longer you wouldn't be projecting your insecurities all over the thread, needledick.
2013-03-08 10:10:44 PM
1 votes:

jaytkay: atomicmask: I yearn for a time in which adults could decide for themselves if something was right and wrong without 300 people in beaucracy deciding for them

Gee, I wonder why conservatives yearn for earlier times
 

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Yeah its GOTTA BE RACISM. right?
2013-03-08 10:04:39 PM
1 votes:
You guys really want to throw a halo on a murderer, wife-beater and ultimate deadbeat dad?

This is exactly the kind of loser who thinks a gun makes him a man and will punish the world when it doesn't turn his way.
2013-03-08 10:02:19 PM
1 votes:
For the past 50,000+ years, stuff like a mans honor, dignity, and freedom is what has mattered. Dishonoring a man by sleeping with his wife was something you fought to the death over. Taking his dignity was equally worth fighting and dying over. Again I have yet to see a reasonable excuse for as to why these things are no longer important. I have only seen a trend in trying to de-fang the rights of humans in general. You shouldn't ever get mad, just take it with a solumn sigh and let the world fark your wife, your life, your job, your family...I mean what do YOU lose when this happens? not like the poor guys family was going to fall apart, his kids were going to go threw a horrible divorce, his son would see his father emasculated by this, or anything.

Ultra-libs...nothing is sacred or worth fighting for.
2013-03-08 09:29:54 PM
1 votes:

Bung_Howdy: Bet she'll have a tough time dealing with that when sonny boy gets older and wants more details on the day Dad killed himself-


Considering Dad just abandon sonny boy about as effectively as humanly possible("My own insecurities are much more important to me than you are, son.", I doubt it.
2013-03-08 09:27:47 PM
1 votes:

atomicmask: Infernalist: atomicmask: Tak the Hideous New Girl: atomicmask: Up until around 80 years ago, this was considered a personally reasonable reason to shoot another man.

For some reason, the current generations have found no reason to fight, or defend anything they love or care for. It is a great grey blur of violations against one another and victims unable to reprise those who offend them.

So you yearn for the days when murder was the just and proper response to adultery? I believe that Afghanistan, Iran or Saudi Arabia is lovely this time of year.

I yearn for a time in which adults could decide for themselves if something was right and wrong without 300 people in beaucracy deciding for them. Murder was still against the law, murder in cold blood was punishable by death. However you could resolve problems at the lowest level, between the two who actually have a problem.

What I managed to get from your post is that you want to be able to shoot someone when they do something to piss you off, and not get in trouble.

That is a funny leap in logic, considering I state laws are already in place to prohibit murder


No sense in trying to pass laws against guns murder and mayhem.  Criminals will simply ignore them, and only the innocent will not have murder and mayhem.
Besides, if I choose to live in a civilized society, what right is it of civilized society to tell me how to live?  Fark that.  Let them all leave.  U-S-A!  U-S-A!
2013-03-08 09:03:42 PM
1 votes:

atomicmask: I yearn for a time in which adults could decide for themselves if something was right and wrong


Somalia awaits you. Go there.

Please.
2013-03-08 08:57:59 PM
1 votes:

theorellior: atomicmask: No, murder is premeditated violence with the intent to kill against someone. A crime of passion is if you walk in, catch the guy, and plug him in the head with a bullet.

So you're saying one is okay then?


That's exactly what he's saying.  He wants to be able to shoot someone and walk away from it.
2013-03-08 08:46:44 PM
1 votes:
You should get a free pass for killing the person your spouse is cheating with. Some people deserve killing.
2013-03-08 08:45:30 PM
1 votes:

atomicmask: Bith Set Me Up: Saying "We can't have new gun laws because criminals won't follow them." is like saying "Why should I shower? I'm gonna get dirty again.".

Actually, its more akin to saying "I already have a shower, but I need a shower in my shower before I can use it properly"

There are already laws against this behavior.


Yeah, it's not like you could pass a law that required the gun be safely stored, so that when someone flips out the target has some chance to get away before the lead starts flyin'.
2013-03-08 08:41:37 PM
1 votes:

Infernalist: What I managed to get from your post is that you want to be able to shoot someone when they do something to piss you off, and not get in trouble.


It's called a duel.

Go get a $20 bill. That man? He fought so many duels that "he rattled like a sack of marbles" when he was serving in the White House. There's historical precedent and enough rules, laws, and examples that it's well worth looking into.

My personal favorite is the German Judaical Duel for battles between husbands and wives.

The man had to stand in a pit and was armed with a solid club. The woman was given freedom of movement and armed with a rock in a sock.

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2013-03-08 08:40:05 PM
1 votes:

atomicmask: Infernalist: atomicmask: Tak the Hideous New Girl: atomicmask: Up until around 80 years ago, this was considered a personally reasonable reason to shoot another man.

For some reason, the current generations have found no reason to fight, or defend anything they love or care for. It is a great grey blur of violations against one another and victims unable to reprise those who offend them.

So you yearn for the days when murder was the just and proper response to adultery? I believe that Afghanistan, Iran or Saudi Arabia is lovely this time of year.

I yearn for a time in which adults could decide for themselves if something was right and wrong without 300 people in beaucracy deciding for them. Murder was still against the law, murder in cold blood was punishable by death. However you could resolve problems at the lowest level, between the two who actually have a problem.

What I managed to get from your post is that you want to be able to shoot someone when they do something to piss you off, and not get in trouble.

That is a funny leap in logic, considering I state laws are already in place to prohibit murder


Not a leap in logic at all.  You said murdering someone was a reasonable reaction to finding him in bed with your wife.  This implies that you both approve of that sort of thing.  Of course, you labeled it as 'fighting for someone you love/care for', but murder's murder when you strip off the poetic words.
2013-03-08 08:36:52 PM
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atomicmask: Up until around 80 years ago, this was considered a personally reasonable reason to shoot another man.

For some reason, the current generations have found no reason to fight, or defend anything they love or care for. It is a great grey blur of violations against one another and victims unable to reprise those who offend them.


Societal progress comes in pendulum swings. One culture will be virile and manly, the next will be fertile and womanly, then they switch back. It's the natural cycle.

First you have the Iroquois with their five nations and very sensible laws. Then you have a bunch of Europeans who come and cut them down. Then we take a step back, crib from their notes, and decide mother England is too tyrannical and cut the tie. Then, we decide a little more expansion can't hurt. Then we feel bad, start freeing the slaves. Then we decide a six gun's the only real law in the Western Territories. Then we decide that's barbaric and shut it down. Then we decide it's romantic and Wyatt Earp becomes a movie hero. But then we ban alcohol because of fights. Then we restore alcohol because wars at home and abroad. Then free love. Then preppies. Now a swarm of scruffy milquetoast hipsters who don't like violence. Their kids will be bloodthirsty spartan types. Back and forth.
2013-03-08 08:35:03 PM
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atomicmask: Tak the Hideous New Girl: atomicmask: Up until around 80 years ago, this was considered a personally reasonable reason to shoot another man.

For some reason, the current generations have found no reason to fight, or defend anything they love or care for. It is a great grey blur of violations against one another and victims unable to reprise those who offend them.

So you yearn for the days when murder was the just and proper response to adultery? I believe that Afghanistan, Iran or Saudi Arabia is lovely this time of year.

I yearn for a time in which adults could decide for themselves if something was right and wrong without 300 people in beaucracy deciding for them. Murder was still against the law, murder in cold blood was punishable by death. However you could resolve problems at the lowest level, between the two who actually have a problem.


What I managed to get from your post is that you want to be able to shoot someone when they do something to piss you off, and not get in trouble.
2013-03-08 08:34:49 PM
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Why did he not shoot his wife?  Clearly she's just as responsible for the infidelity as the other man.  Or is it that she's considered property -- for better or worse entirely faultless?
2013-03-08 08:25:38 PM
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Bith Set Me Up: Saying "We can't have new gun laws because criminals won't follow them." is like saying "Why should I shower? I'm gonna get dirty again.".


Actually, its more akin to saying "I already have a shower, but I need a shower in my shower before I can use it properly"

There are already laws against this behavior.
2013-03-08 08:23:16 PM
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Saying "We can't have new gun laws because criminals won't follow them." is like saying "Why should I shower? I'm gonna get dirty again.".
2013-03-08 08:22:37 PM
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Up until around 80 years ago, this was considered a personally reasonable reason to shoot another man.

For some reason, the current generations have found no reason to fight, or defend anything they love or care for. It is a great grey blur of violations against one another and victims unable to reprise those who offend them.
2013-03-08 08:17:32 PM
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edmo: Another responsible gun owner sacrifices innocent victims in the name of Constitutional Freedoms.


Dont mow another guys lawn.
2013-03-08 08:11:06 PM
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dj_bigbird: It wasn't clear how Rodriguez and the woman were acquainted.

Yeah, sure. Rodriguez was probably putting bullets in her, if ya know what I mean.


Indeed; I figure this is a story about a woman cheating on her hubby. How else would you explain it?
2013-03-08 07:48:25 PM
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Ban straight marriage
2013-03-08 06:59:18 PM
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Want your kid to kill somebody someday? Name him Wayne.
2013-03-08 06:31:00 PM
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He probably had a huge magazine and emptied it into her.

/I mean he put his large penis in her vagina and ejaculated.
2013-03-08 05:59:45 PM
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This would have never have happened if the victim had been ar --oh.

Well, who cares.
 
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