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(Wisconsin Gazette)   Who looks more like a real woman? The drag queen on the left or the anti-gay Christian-right leader on the right?   (wisconsingazette.com) divider line 52
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2013-03-08 04:22:15 PM
10 votes:

asynchron: "Ooh, an article about a serious social issue! Let's compare how good-looking the two sides are! That will be super meaningful!"


It's not an article about a serious social issue. It's an article about a moralizing, stuffed-shirt pain in the ass with a superiority complex who can't help but whine about anything and everything that she personally doesn't like as if she's the arbiter of what other people should and should not be allowed to do.

Fark her. She deserves nothing but taunting and mockery and she invited it entirely on herself by sticking her nose in where it didn't belong.
2013-03-08 04:11:52 PM
8 votes:

asynchron: Wow, subby, nice argument ad hominem. You are what's wrong with the world.

"Ooh, an article about a serious social issue! Let's compare how good-looking the two sides are! That will be super meaningful!"


What serious social issue would that be?
Whether a person should to go to a show or not?
Or whether people should mind their own business or not?
2013-03-08 04:26:00 PM
6 votes:

vudukungfu: She's jells


I'd like to think that if she went to the show, the queens would take her backstage and show her how to do hair, makeup and wardrobe... something that no one has ever cared enough to show her... and they would bond over this, she would gain some femininity, self-esteem and compassion and they would all become close friends.
2013-03-08 04:18:27 PM
6 votes:
A self-proclaimed defender of "traditional marriage," Appling has never married and has lived for decades with another never-married woman in a home the two own jointly in Watertown.

memedepot.com
2013-03-08 04:07:49 PM
6 votes:
Wow, subby, nice argument ad hominem. You are what's wrong with the world.

"Ooh, an article about a serious social issue! Let's compare how good-looking the two sides are! That will be super meaningful!"
2013-03-08 04:23:45 PM
5 votes:

C0rf: A self-proclaimed defender of "traditional marriage," Appling has never married and has lived for decades with another never-married woman in a home the two own jointly in Watertown.

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Repressed middle aged dykes are so hostile. I say we start up a fund to buy her a double header to share with her 'roommate'.
2013-03-08 04:22:20 PM
5 votes:
"The 'main attraction' is the guest appearance of self-proclaimed male homosexual transvestite 'Shangela' from a lewd reality television show 'RuPaul's Drag Race,' in which homosexual male drag performers compete for prizes.

Let's start how far this lady has her head up her ass.
Self proclaimed male homosexual. *ahem* He's out, get used to it sister. It's just about a hate crime to bust his chops on that.
Male transvestite. As opposed to like, uh, Hilary Clinton?
And as for labeling the rest fo the performers as gay, not all drag queens are gay, babe. Pull your farking head out and go out and see a show sometime.

Koonts like this need to die off already.
2013-03-08 05:51:38 PM
4 votes:

catmandu: Cyberluddite: Chinchillazilla: I just don't understand the knee-jerk reaction to homosexuality from fundies. They ignore almost everything else in Leviticus.

Jesus died for our sins so that we would be able to get into heaven without worrying about following all the crazy Old Testament rules, right? Is Jesus's sacrifice not good enough for you, fundies?

I've never understood this either.  Seriously, can someone with a better understanding of Christian theology explain this one for us?  I mean, if Jesus died for our sins and this means that as long as we accept Jebus as our savior we can now eat bacon for breakfast or have lobster for dinner or do a bunch of the other list of things that Leviticus says is a no-no if you want to get into heaven, then why is a guy sucking another guy's dick is still considered the equivalent of a "Go directly to Hell, do not meet Jesus, do not collect 200 sheckels" card?

I really do wish someone could explain this.  I'm sure there's gotta be some sort of theological justification for it--what is it?

The way I understand it is that the Old Testament Law required blood sacrifices to atone for sins committed (breaking the laws as laid out in Leviticus, etc). Jesus was the final sacrifice that atoned for all sins forever, thereby completing the requirements of the Law. Since the requirements have been completed, those who accept that Jesus was the final sacrifice (aka Christians) are no longer bound by the OT Law and no longer have to follow it.


Hit "add" too soon. The reason most fundies still follow their cherry picked version of the OT as "God's Law" is because they want a list of rules and regulations that tell them what to do. Living their lives according to principle instead of rules is just too hard. It makes them feel like they are following God's will when they can point to something in the Bible and say that they are doing that. Easier to tithe the OT law of 10% and say they did their financial duty than to pray about where they should apply their money. If they do that, God may ask them for more and may actually want them to help out the poor.
2013-03-08 04:14:24 PM
4 votes:
FTA: "In a strongly worded statement posted on the Wisconsin Family Voice, Julaine Appling demonized the event as a "display of immorality" intended to propagandize young people."

Right, right. Because what you and your ilk are doing isn't propaganda, so it's ok.
2013-03-08 09:42:31 PM
3 votes:

MeanJean: The one on the right doesn't look mannish, but the one on the left is definitely more conventionally attractive.

/the term for a male-to-female transsexual is "trans woman"
//the term for a performer like this "drag queen"
///"tranny" is considered offensive by the transgender community
////Please get it right


It's pretty complicated. I'm a crossdresser. I don't consider myself gay or transgender. I've been to a Tri-Ess meeting in Philly and I met so many different variants.  Some men were transitioning towards actual female parts, some were happily married to understanding wives - including where the men were allowed to indulge away from their wives at certain times.  I met policemen, firemen, linesmen, etc. - very "manly" on the outside, but they feel feminine at times and they dress in feminine clothes.  I don't see them being gay.  In fact, I saw them being very comfortable with themselves and manly.  Playing pool, talking about their jobs, normal joe-job stuff.

I had a problem with a therapist of mine.  She went against me because she felt my outlook on crossdressing is fetishism and I felt she judged me on that.  I still feel she is one of the best activists for TG.  She is human and she made a mistake.  One of the best therapists I ever met and I'm happy that she expanded my universe.
2013-03-08 07:30:44 PM
3 votes:

Mija: I don't know but I can tell you who will be going to hell.

1 Corinthians 6:9-11
Romans 1:18, 26, 27, 32


How cute. You think your imaginary friend is real.
2013-03-08 05:59:34 PM
3 votes:

Mija: I don't know but I can tell you who will be going to hell.

1 Corinthians 6:9-11
Romans 1:18, 26, 27, 32


You do, huh?

Matthew 7:1-5
John 8:7
2013-03-08 05:33:46 PM
3 votes:

Mija: I don't know but I can tell you who will be going to hell.

1 Corinthians 6:9-11
Romans 1:18, 26, 27, 32


1 Peter 3:6 "- Likewise, wives, be subject to your own husbands, so that even if some do not obey the word, they may be won without a word by the conduct of their wives, when they see your respectful and pure conduct. Do not let your adorning be external-the braiding of hair and the putting on of gold jewelry, or the clothing you wear- but let your adorning be the hidden person of the heart with the imperishable beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which in God's sight is very precious. For this is how the holy women who hoped in God used to adorn themselves, by submitting to their own husbands..."

Restated in numerous other passages, such as 1 Timothy 2:9 and Isaiah 3:16-24

Sounds like Ms. Unmarried Gold-chain Pretty-blouse-wearing Appling will be there as well.

/If you're going to cherry-pick, expect me to bake your ass into a pie
//I can guarantee I can find a Biblical passage that can be translated to condemn ANY person  you put forward
2013-03-08 05:07:53 PM
3 votes:

Cyberluddite: Chinchillazilla: I just don't understand the knee-jerk reaction to homosexuality from fundies. They ignore almost everything else in Leviticus.

Jesus died for our sins so that we would be able to get into heaven without worrying about following all the crazy Old Testament rules, right? Is Jesus's sacrifice not good enough for you, fundies?

I've never understood this either.  Seriously, can someone with a better understanding of Christian theology explain this one for us?  I mean, if Jesus died for our sins and this means that as long as we accept Jebus as our savior we can now eat bacon for breakfast or have lobster for dinner or do a bunch of the other list of things that Leviticus says is a no-no if you want to get into heaven, then why is a guy sucking another guy's dick is still considered the equivalent of a "Go directly to Hell, do not meet Jesus, do not collect 200 sheckels" card?

I really do wish someone could explain this.  I'm sure there's gotta be some sort of theological justification for it--what is it?


There is no special justification for it. They just make shiat up..

Spent years in church before I figured that out.
2013-03-08 04:54:25 PM
3 votes:

asynchron: Wow, subby, nice argument ad hominem. You are what's wrong with the world.

"Ooh, an article about a serious social issue! Let's compare how good-looking the two sides are! That will be super meaningful!"


Another idiot who doesn't understand what "ad hominem" means.

Insulting someone you disagree with isn't an ad hominem attack. An ad hominem attack is when you insult someone, then use that insult to dismiss the argument without actually refuting it.


"You're ugly" is just an insult. "You're ugly and therefore I don't have to refute your argument" is an ad hominem.
2013-03-08 04:21:53 PM
3 votes:

C0rf: A self-proclaimed defender of "traditional marriage," Appling has never married and has lived for decades with another never-married woman in a home the two own jointly in Watertown.



I imagine this is what the inside of their closet looks like

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2013-03-08 04:12:12 PM
3 votes:

asynchron: Wow, subby, nice argument ad hominem. You are what's wrong with the world.

"Ooh, an article about a serious social issue! Let's compare how good-looking the two sides are! That will be super meaningful!"


Exactly!  Because, women never cast judgement on other women based on outward appearances.
2013-03-08 04:06:15 PM
3 votes:
$3 to see Shangela? Oh honey I would so be there if I lived closer. I loves me some RPDR.
2013-03-08 09:10:02 PM
2 votes:

mjbok: ambercat: Generally I'd say no it's not, but in the case of the seriously anti-homo folks (not the, I don't want to see two dudes making out, it's icky, but I'm not against giving them rights people) there is usually something psychologically and sexually wrong with them that seems to be the root cause. Often, it seems like they are repressed homosexuals or bisexuals themselves. Other times, most especially in the case of women, they are so fugly/mean/crazy that they aren't getting the sexual attention they desire, so they lash out. A variation on that theme is when a conventionally unattractive women has married a closeted gay man, and she fears losing him and believes she will never find another man, so she joins him in his homophobic activities and fear mongering to bind him to her.

I still don't think it's right to attack someone because they're unattractive.  Far better targets for derision.


Fair enough, I will now judge her on her viewpoint.  It's disgusting.
2013-03-08 08:32:20 PM
2 votes:
I'd rather watch a drag show where people are happy and celebrating life and who they are than some biddy who tries to smush everyone into her narrow minded bigoted view point.
2013-03-08 06:37:37 PM
2 votes:

Mija: I don't know but I can tell you who will be going to hell.


No, only God can do that. Been a heretic long?
2013-03-08 05:49:32 PM
2 votes:

LavenderWolf: nmrsnr: Here's a question: How does being transgender fit into the "no gay marriage" platform? Does your birth gender control, or your post-op gender? Or, can you just not marry, period? How about after you're married. If one spouse in a married couple undergoes gender reassignment, do they have to get divorced?

To the fundies, anything other than repressing all sexual urges, and farking only your wife, to make her pregnant, is a crime against their religion. No matter who is doing the farking or how unrelated and distant the fundie is from the act.


I'm sure there is no relationship between these teachings, toe tapping in public restrooms and child molestation. 99% of the time it's a 'straight' married, religious man.
2013-03-08 04:56:18 PM
2 votes:

Douchie McBaggus: If those two were the only other humans left in the world...and I had to choose one...

/impossible choices


I'd just write a beautiful eulogy for the human race and take the drag queen.
2013-03-08 04:33:59 PM
2 votes:
A self-proclaimed defender of "traditional marriage," Appling has never married and has lived for decades with another never-married woman in a home the two own jointly in Watertown.
2013-03-08 04:18:49 PM
2 votes:
"Human sexuality is both a gift and a responsibility given to man by God," wrote Appling.

If that were true our genitals wouldn't look so funny.
2013-03-08 04:17:10 PM
2 votes:
Well one looks like a natural aging person and the other looks like an overdone clown with serious psychological issues. What do I win?
2013-03-08 04:16:53 PM
2 votes:
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I'm sorry, my dear, but now you must go home.  Sashay away!

/I love love LOVE her show. Lurve it.
Ehh
2013-03-08 04:15:27 PM
2 votes:

asynchron: Wow, subby, nice argument ad hominem.


Yeah, you're right. The one on the right does look like a man.
2013-03-08 04:13:48 PM
2 votes:
Three dollars to see a show and to get it right up the bigots at the same time.

I'd say that's a pretty good deal for the locals.
2013-03-08 04:13:00 PM
2 votes:

asynchron: Wow, subby, nice argument ad hominem. You are what's wrong with the world.

"Ooh, an article about a serious social issue! Let's compare how good-looking the two sides are! That will be super meaningful!"


Drag queens are a serious social issue? Since when?
2013-03-08 04:04:17 PM
2 votes:
FTFA:  "Our University of Wisconsin System is placing the stamp of approval on homosexual propaganda and explicitly immoral content ... that sends the wrong message to our next generation of leaders, parents, and families,"

I'm guessing this idiot has never been to any of our campuses...ever.
2013-03-09 04:02:00 AM
1 votes:

LavenderWolf: ciberido: LavenderWolf:Insulting someone you disagree with isn't an ad hominem attack. An ad hominem attack is when you insult someone, then use that insult to dismiss the argument without actually refuting it.


"You're ugly" is just an insult. "You're ugly and therefore I don't have to refute your argument" is an ad hominem.

Yes, but if the " and therefore I don't have to refute your argument" part is implied, then it IS an ad hominem.

Also, you're ugly.

But it was never implied in this case.


Her argument doesn't need to be refuted because it's based entirely on bigotry and therefor deserves mocking rather than debate.  The fact that she's fugly (especially compared to the drag queen she's protesting against), possibly a closeted self-hating "deviant" herself just adds a big helping of delicious irony to the pie.
2013-03-09 12:54:17 AM
1 votes:

fariasrv: ambercat: Other times, most especially in the case of women, they are so fugly/mean/crazy that they aren't getting the sexual attention they desire, so they lash out. A variation on that theme is when a conventionally unattractive women has married a closeted gay man, and she fears losing him and believes she will never find another man, so she joins him in his homophobic activities and fear mongering to bind him to her.

So how do you explain Michelle Bachman?  She seems to straddle categories.


I think she's a batshiat crazy, possibly closet lesbian married to a badly closeted man. She's not unattractive, but I think her crazy does act as a repelling force to, well, just about anyone who doesn't have a similar lack of sanity level. I would guess that her religion is the source of her closeting, and I would not be surprised if she and her husband had discussed the subject and had some kind of 'let's keep each other from falling into sin' pact on the subject. You'll notice, they've had a lot of foster children in their house, NONE of them boys.
2013-03-08 08:16:16 PM
1 votes:
I absolutely love that this article pointed out she's not married and lives with another unmarried female.  You make it your business to tell other people how to live, the way you live your life is fair game.  Mind your own damn business if you want to keep your own shiat private.
2013-03-08 08:05:21 PM
1 votes:
Nevermind the attractive part, wonder about who is the happier, more joyful, kind hearted, and relaxed person in life.

Some folks waste a lot of perfectly good life hours thinking about other people are doing things that they think are wrong instead of enjoying themselves.
2013-03-08 08:05:13 PM
1 votes:

AbbeySomeone: C0rf: A self-proclaimed defender of "traditional marriage," Appling has never married and has lived for decades with another never-married woman in a home the two own jointly in Watertown.

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Repressed middle aged dykes are so hostile. I say we start up a fund to buy her a double header to share with her 'roommate'.


Even if no one starts a real one, we could do sort of a virtual one.  Many years ago, a DC comic did a kind of fundraiser where if you donated to your favorite cause IRL, you send a copy of the receipt with the amount highlighted, and they would count up the numbers after so long, and give that amount to a charity in the DC Universe.  We should each "give" something like the last two digits of our SocSec, phone, or FARK number, as dollars or cents, add them up, and see how many high quality Double Headers we could buy if the final amount was actual money.
2013-03-08 07:41:23 PM
1 votes:

AbbeySomeone: C0rf: A self-proclaimed defender of "traditional marriage," Appling has never married and has lived for decades with another never-married woman in a home the two own jointly in Watertown.

[memedepot.com image 152x143]

Repressed middle aged dykes are so hostile. I say we start up a fund to buy her a double header to share with her 'roommate'.


All the young girls love Alice
Tender young Alice they say
Come over and see me
Come over and please me
Alice it's my turn today

All the young girls love Alice
Tender young Alice they say
If I give you my number
Will you promise to call me
Wait 'til my husband's away
2013-03-08 07:12:17 PM
1 votes:

whyaduck: Since drag queen threads on Fark are few and far between I'll just leave this here.

Willam's Beatdown, the crudest/funniest YouTube beauty video review hosted by a drag queen out there.


I have never seen this before. You have wasted my Friday afternoon with silly gay fun.

Thank you.
2013-03-08 06:33:45 PM
1 votes:

Ed Grubermann: asynchron: Wow, subby, nice argument ad hominem. You are what's wrong with the world.

"Ooh, an article about a serious social issue! Let's compare how good-looking the two sides are! That will be super meaningful!"

Drag queens are a serious social issue? Since when?


24.media.tumblr.com

Since I've been making boys cry when they ask for BIE.
2013-03-08 05:10:17 PM
1 votes:

xen0blue: in this thread: anyone who is anti-gay is secretly gay, including 95% of all historical figures


did you see this part in the article? "A self-proclaimed defender of "traditional marriage," Appling has never married and has lived for decades with another never-married woman in a home the two own jointly in Watertown. "

This is most of the backlash right there
2013-03-08 04:59:53 PM
1 votes:
Actually, they both look like women. Only one of them looks like a reasonably attractive woman.
2013-03-08 04:55:04 PM
1 votes:

Chinchillazilla: I just don't understand the knee-jerk reaction to homosexuality from fundies. They ignore almost everything else in Leviticus.

Jesus died for our sins so that we would be able to get into heaven without worrying about following all the crazy Old Testament rules, right? Is Jesus's sacrifice not good enough for you, fundies?


I've never understood this either.  Seriously, can someone with a better understanding of Christian theology explain this one for us?  I mean, if Jesus died for our sins and this means that as long as we accept Jebus as our savior we can now eat bacon for breakfast or have lobster for dinner or do a bunch of the other list of things that Leviticus says is a no-no if you want to get into heaven, then why is a guy sucking another guy's dick is still considered the equivalent of a "Go directly to Hell, do not meet Jesus, do not collect 200 sheckels" card?

I really do wish someone could explain this.  I'm sure there's gotta be some sort of theological justification for it--what is it?
2013-03-08 04:53:30 PM
1 votes:

asynchron: Wow, subby, nice argument ad hominem. You are what's wrong with the world.

"Ooh, an article about a serious social issue! Let's compare how good-looking the two sides are! That will be super meaningful!"


Shh, your derp is showing.
2013-03-08 04:30:12 PM
1 votes:
And in response to the article, the homohater lives with another woman.  In some circles, that makes her a big old dyke.  No doubt she is; can't wait for her to get outed.
2013-03-08 04:27:49 PM
1 votes:
on the right we have someone who is unmarried, looks happy and knows how to have fun with men.

on the right we have a old, frigid, killjoy, crone who wouldn't know a good time if it hiked those utters up from her kneecaps and slapped her with them.

the one on the right is obviously the woman.

/ducks
2013-03-08 04:24:46 PM
1 votes:
Here's a question: How does being transgender fit into the "no gay marriage" platform? Does your birth gender control, or your post-op gender? Or, can you just not marry, period? How about after you're married. If one spouse in a married couple undergoes gender reassignment, do they have to get divorced?
2013-03-08 04:20:24 PM
1 votes:
So just drag, not transsexual?   Not nearly as interesting.  That hideous thing on the right should not be given attention.
2013-03-08 04:17:43 PM
1 votes:
I just don't understand the knee-jerk reaction to homosexuality from fundies. They ignore almost everything else in Leviticus.

Jesus died for our sins so that we would be able to get into heaven without worrying about following all the crazy Old Testament rules, right? Is Jesus's sacrifice not good enough for you, fundies?
2013-03-08 04:13:14 PM
1 votes:
She's jells
2013-03-08 04:12:54 PM
1 votes:
Me and my confused erection have no idea what to make of this...

Also, that drag queen is kinda hot too...
2013-03-08 04:09:00 PM
1 votes:
Lock your doors, close your minds.... its time for the two minute warning.... DKs
2013-03-08 04:08:39 PM
1 votes:
FTFA:Since fundamentalist Christians condemn sexual behavior outside the context of a heterosexual marriage, Appling presumably has never experienced human sexuality.

Also, lol.
 
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