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(Wisconsin Gazette)   Who looks more like a real woman? The drag queen on the left or the anti-gay Christian-right leader on the right?   (wisconsingazette.com) divider line 162
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2013-03-08 06:51:03 PM

grokca: asynchron: Wow, subby, nice argument ad hominem. You are what's wrong with the world.

"Ooh, an article about a serious social issue! Let's compare how good-looking the two sides are! That will be super meaningful!"

What serious social issue would that be?
Whether a person should to go to a show or not?
Or whether people should mind their own business or not?


I think he was talking about right wing bigotry, and the fact that people still feel comfortable admitting that they are christian in public.

Shameful!
 
2013-03-08 06:52:41 PM

Douchie McBaggus: If those two were the only other humans left in the world...and I had to choose one...

/impossible choices


not so.  give the the drag queen.

/ gotta have some one fun to drink with
 
2013-03-08 07:01:35 PM
How bout no to both. I dont like my women to have teh crazy and being a fundie and thinking you are a woman when you have a cawk both sound crazy to me.
 
2013-03-08 07:03:03 PM

vernonFL: s

I'm sorry, my dear, but now you must go home.  Sashay away!

/I love love LOVE her show. Lurve it.


Ditto. Also got my straight male SO hooked because it's the only honest *and* damn entertaining reality show.

/Shangela better open the library and read that 'woman'
//that said I'm amazed at her staying power. Never one of my faves
///pulling for jinxxx now but I'd be cool with Alaska too
 
2013-03-08 07:03:21 PM

Mija: I don't know but I can tell you who will be going to hell.

1 Corinthians 6:9-11
Romans 1:18, 26, 27, 32


I'll keep a seat warm for you until you get there.
 
2013-03-08 07:10:03 PM
"Hey fundies: Thanks for the free advertising!"
 
2013-03-08 07:12:17 PM

whyaduck: Since drag queen threads on Fark are few and far between I'll just leave this here.

Willam's Beatdown, the crudest/funniest YouTube beauty video review hosted by a drag queen out there.


I have never seen this before. You have wasted my Friday afternoon with silly gay fun.

Thank you.
 
2013-03-08 07:13:46 PM
How much time does this woman spend "researching" all of these sinful, sinful activities? She seems pretty knowledgeable about RuPaul's Drag Race, after all...

Plus, there's the whole "devoted her life to another woman" thing.
 
2013-03-08 07:22:38 PM

AbbeySomeone: C0rf: A self-proclaimed defender of "traditional marriage," Appling has never married and has lived for decades with another never-married woman in a home the two own jointly in Watertown.

[memedepot.com image 152x143]

Repressed middle aged dykes are so hostile. I say we start up a fund to buy her a double header to share with her 'roommate'.


Throw in a Holly Near album and I'm in.  When I was a kid my best friend's mom was the prototypical middle-aged dyke.  Folk music, hot water bottles and macrame owls, OH MY!
 
2013-03-08 07:27:45 PM
Let me get this straight...it's okay to attack someone's looks and how they dress, cut their hair, etc. if you disagree with them politically?

The less attractive of the two is wrong (IMHO), but attacking her for her looks is no different than attacking Maddow for her look.  When people do the latter, everyone seems to lose their shiat.

//So many things to criticize someone about, unless they are a model their look is irrelevant.
 
2013-03-08 07:30:09 PM

Strike a pose!

i651.photobucket.com

"Taxpayers should beware, and quickly take action to defend our shared values. The Badger State's standards for it's [sic] families are much higher than this shameful display of sexual immorality on our campuses in an our local communities."


Pretty strong words...for a tranny.
 
2013-03-08 07:30:44 PM

Mija: I don't know but I can tell you who will be going to hell.

1 Corinthians 6:9-11
Romans 1:18, 26, 27, 32


How cute. You think your imaginary friend is real.
 
2013-03-08 07:34:29 PM

Ghastly: Ed Grubermann: asynchron: Wow, subby, nice argument ad hominem. You are what's wrong with the world.

"Ooh, an article about a serious social issue! Let's compare how good-looking the two sides are! That will be super meaningful!"

Drag queens are a serious social issue? Since when?

[24.media.tumblr.com image 850x508]

Since I've been making boys cry when they ask for BIE.



Uncle Ghastly's cleavage: the only reason to have drag threads.


I'll put five bucks in the Double-Header Fund for this closeted hag before she explodes.  Plenty of people have gone through plenty of crap so she doesn't have to live that way, poor old duck.
 
2013-03-08 07:38:39 PM

Ghastly: Ed Grubermann: asynchron: Wow, subby, nice argument ad hominem. You are what's wrong with the world.

"Ooh, an article about a serious social issue! Let's compare how good-looking the two sides are! That will be super meaningful!"

Drag queens are a serious social issue? Since when?

[24.media.tumblr.com image 850x508]

Since I've been making boys cry when they ask for BIE.


Since you'd rather prance around than draw more God-damned Zipper Ninja, you mean.
 
2013-03-08 07:41:23 PM

AbbeySomeone: C0rf: A self-proclaimed defender of "traditional marriage," Appling has never married and has lived for decades with another never-married woman in a home the two own jointly in Watertown.

[memedepot.com image 152x143]

Repressed middle aged dykes are so hostile. I say we start up a fund to buy her a double header to share with her 'roommate'.


All the young girls love Alice
Tender young Alice they say
Come over and see me
Come over and please me
Alice it's my turn today

All the young girls love Alice
Tender young Alice they say
If I give you my number
Will you promise to call me
Wait 'til my husband's away
 
2013-03-08 07:50:07 PM
Never in a million years did I ever think I would see my hometown, Menasha, in the news. Much less on Fark.

Sad to admit my mother probably supports this woman. Loved growing up in WI but I am sure glad I got the hell out 20 years ago.
 
2013-03-08 07:53:58 PM
Ewwwwwww
 
2013-03-08 08:05:13 PM

AbbeySomeone: C0rf: A self-proclaimed defender of "traditional marriage," Appling has never married and has lived for decades with another never-married woman in a home the two own jointly in Watertown.

[memedepot.com image 152x143]

Repressed middle aged dykes are so hostile. I say we start up a fund to buy her a double header to share with her 'roommate'.


Even if no one starts a real one, we could do sort of a virtual one.  Many years ago, a DC comic did a kind of fundraiser where if you donated to your favorite cause IRL, you send a copy of the receipt with the amount highlighted, and they would count up the numbers after so long, and give that amount to a charity in the DC Universe.  We should each "give" something like the last two digits of our SocSec, phone, or FARK number, as dollars or cents, add them up, and see how many high quality Double Headers we could buy if the final amount was actual money.
 
2013-03-08 08:05:21 PM
Nevermind the attractive part, wonder about who is the happier, more joyful, kind hearted, and relaxed person in life.

Some folks waste a lot of perfectly good life hours thinking about other people are doing things that they think are wrong instead of enjoying themselves.
 
2013-03-08 08:16:16 PM
I absolutely love that this article pointed out she's not married and lives with another unmarried female.  You make it your business to tell other people how to live, the way you live your life is fair game.  Mind your own damn business if you want to keep your own shiat private.
 
2013-03-08 08:16:34 PM

mjbok: Let me get this straight...it's okay to attack someone's looks and how they dress, cut their hair, etc. if you disagree with them politically?

The less attractive of the two is wrong (IMHO), but attacking her for her looks is no different than attacking Maddow for her look.  When people do the latter, everyone seems to lose their shiat.

//So many things to criticize someone about, unless they are a model their look is irrelevant.


Generally I'd say no it's not, but in the case of the seriously anti-homo folks (not the, I don't want to see two dudes making out, it's icky, but I'm not against giving them rights people) there is usually something psychologically and sexually wrong with them that seems to be the root cause. Often, it seems like they are repressed homosexuals or bisexuals themselves. Other times, most especially in the case of women, they are so fugly/mean/crazy that they aren't getting the sexual attention they desire, so they lash out. A variation on that theme is when a conventionally unattractive women has married a closeted gay man, and she fears losing him and believes she will never find another man, so she joins him in his homophobic activities and fear mongering to bind him to her.

In her case it looks like the ugliness might be a factor, so I don't see a problem with people pointing it out. This is NOT a woman with happy sex life, and that undercuts her argument that it's about all these other social things and not just her being mad and jealous.
 
2013-03-08 08:32:20 PM
I'd rather watch a drag show where people are happy and celebrating life and who they are than some biddy who tries to smush everyone into her narrow minded bigoted view point.
 
2013-03-08 08:44:30 PM

FunkOut: Nevermind the attractive part, wonder about who is the happier, more joyful, kind hearted, and relaxed person in life.

Some folks waste a lot of perfectly good life hours thinking about other people are doing things that they think are wrong instead of enjoying themselves.


Nothing is less attractive than obsessively trying to force people to be the way you want them to be.
 
2013-03-08 08:45:36 PM

shut_it_down: Hallelu!


came here for this.  leaving happy.  <3
 
2013-03-08 08:51:30 PM

ambercat: Generally I'd say no it's not, but in the case of the seriously anti-homo folks (not the, I don't want to see two dudes making out, it's icky, but I'm not against giving them rights people) there is usually something psychologically and sexually wrong with them that seems to be the root cause. Often, it seems like they are repressed homosexuals or bisexuals themselves. Other times, most especially in the case of women, they are so fugly/mean/crazy that they aren't getting the sexual attention they desire, so they lash out. A variation on that theme is when a conventionally unattractive women has married a closeted gay man, and she fears losing him and believes she will never find another man, so she joins him in his homophobic activities and fear mongering to bind him to her.


I still don't think it's right to attack someone because they're unattractive.  Far better targets for derision.
 
2013-03-08 09:01:23 PM
Most trannies look better than the women I know.
And yes I am deeply depressed.
 
2013-03-08 09:10:02 PM

mjbok: ambercat: Generally I'd say no it's not, but in the case of the seriously anti-homo folks (not the, I don't want to see two dudes making out, it's icky, but I'm not against giving them rights people) there is usually something psychologically and sexually wrong with them that seems to be the root cause. Often, it seems like they are repressed homosexuals or bisexuals themselves. Other times, most especially in the case of women, they are so fugly/mean/crazy that they aren't getting the sexual attention they desire, so they lash out. A variation on that theme is when a conventionally unattractive women has married a closeted gay man, and she fears losing him and believes she will never find another man, so she joins him in his homophobic activities and fear mongering to bind him to her.

I still don't think it's right to attack someone because they're unattractive.  Far better targets for derision.


Fair enough, I will now judge her on her viewpoint.  It's disgusting.
 
2013-03-08 09:17:46 PM

jake_lex: You make it your business to tell other people how to live, the way you live your life is fair game. Mind your own damn business if you want to keep your own shiat private.


She's an attention whore.  That has to count for something,.
 
2013-03-08 09:26:48 PM
The one on the right doesn't look mannish, but the one on the left is definitely more conventionally attractive.

/the term for a male-to-female transsexual is "trans woman"
//the term for a performer like this "drag queen"
///"tranny" is considered offensive by the transgender community
////Please get it right
 
2013-03-08 09:42:31 PM

MeanJean: The one on the right doesn't look mannish, but the one on the left is definitely more conventionally attractive.

/the term for a male-to-female transsexual is "trans woman"
//the term for a performer like this "drag queen"
///"tranny" is considered offensive by the transgender community
////Please get it right


It's pretty complicated. I'm a crossdresser. I don't consider myself gay or transgender. I've been to a Tri-Ess meeting in Philly and I met so many different variants.  Some men were transitioning towards actual female parts, some were happily married to understanding wives - including where the men were allowed to indulge away from their wives at certain times.  I met policemen, firemen, linesmen, etc. - very "manly" on the outside, but they feel feminine at times and they dress in feminine clothes.  I don't see them being gay.  In fact, I saw them being very comfortable with themselves and manly.  Playing pool, talking about their jobs, normal joe-job stuff.

I had a problem with a therapist of mine.  She went against me because she felt my outlook on crossdressing is fetishism and I felt she judged me on that.  I still feel she is one of the best activists for TG.  She is human and she made a mistake.  One of the best therapists I ever met and I'm happy that she expanded my universe.
 
2013-03-08 09:48:44 PM
Ghastly: "Since I've been making boys cry when they ask for BIE"

Bureau of Indian Education?
 
2013-03-08 09:55:54 PM

Bung_Howdy: Ghastly: "Since I've been making boys cry when they ask for BIE"

Bureau of Indian Education?


Bureau didn't he'p me none any.  Alls I can tells ya, is they's a short where's Gumby wuz workin' for the BIA.  'Splains a whole mess of a lot, right there.
 
2013-03-08 10:27:08 PM

Mija: I don't know but I can tell you who will be going to hell.

1 Corinthians 6:9-11
Romans 1:18, 26, 27, 32


Some of us outgrow imaginary friends.
 
2013-03-08 10:55:47 PM

Cyberluddite: Chinchillazilla: I just don't understand the knee-jerk reaction to homosexuality from fundies. They ignore almost everything else in Leviticus.

Jesus died for our sins so that we would be able to get into heaven without worrying about following all the crazy Old Testament rules, right? Is Jesus's sacrifice not good enough for you, fundies?

I've never understood this either.  Seriously, can someone with a better understanding of Christian theology explain this one for us?  I mean, if Jesus died for our sins and this means that as long as we accept Jebus as our savior we can now eat bacon for breakfast or have lobster for dinner or do a bunch of the other list of things that Leviticus says is a no-no if you want to get into heaven, then why is a guy sucking another guy's dick is still considered the equivalent of a "Go directly to Hell, do not meet Jesus, do not collect 200 sheckels" card?

I really do wish someone could explain this.  I'm sure there's gotta be some sort of theological justification for it--what is it?


Jesus's death was meant to take away the need for a blood sacrifice to atone for one's sins, not abolish the Old Testament laws (as confirmed by Matthew 5:17). Many Christians believe that St. Peter's vision of a sheet filled with animals meant that at the same time Gentiles were allowed to receive the Gospel, animals ceased to be clean or unclean and just became food. The OT law still stands, but that doesn't keep most people from ignoring it.

/source: 15 yrs in the Christian school system
//atheist, as you probably guessed :)
 
2013-03-08 11:03:24 PM
FTFA: "A self-proclaimed defender of 'traditional marriage,' Appling has never married and has lived for decades with another never-married woman in a home the two own jointly in Watertown."

Self-hating closeted lesbian says what, now?
 
2013-03-08 11:09:24 PM
www.austinchronicle.com
 
2013-03-08 11:13:57 PM

grokca: C0rf: A self-proclaimed defender of "traditional marriage," Appling has never married and has lived for decades with another never-married woman in a home the two own jointly in Watertown.

[memedepot.com image 152x143]

I bet their carpets are very clean.


So clean one could eat off of them.
 
2013-03-08 11:22:29 PM

Ghastly: Ed Grubermann: asynchron: Wow, subby, nice argument ad hominem. You are what's wrong with the world.

"Ooh, an article about a serious social issue! Let's compare how good-looking the two sides are! That will be super meaningful!"

Drag queens are a serious social issue? Since when?

[24.media.tumblr.com image 850x508]

Since I've been making boys cry when they ask for BIE.


If you went on Drag Race I'd watch the shiat out of it. They'd have to change the title to "Uncle Ghastly's Drag Race."
 
2013-03-08 11:23:12 PM

Ed Grubermann: AbbeySomeone: C0rf: A self-proclaimed defender of "traditional marriage," Appling has never married and has lived for decades with another never-married woman in a home the two own jointly in Watertown.

[memedepot.com image 152x143]

Repressed middle aged dykes are so hostile. I say we start up a fund to buy her a double header to share with her 'roommate'.

All the young girls love Alice
Tender young Alice they say
Come over and see me
Come over and please me
Alice it's my turn today

All the young girls love Alice
Tender young Alice they say
If I give you my number
Will you promise to call me
Wait 'til my husband's away


Godammit! I had that song in my head when reading a recent thread about the dance teacher and her student.

/Poor little darlin'
//hey, hey, hey, it's my turn today

//violent bass riffs
 
2013-03-08 11:29:24 PM

ambercat: Other times, most especially in the case of women, they are so fugly/mean/crazy that they aren't getting the sexual attention they desire, so they lash out. A variation on that theme is when a conventionally unattractive women has married a closeted gay man, and she fears losing him and believes she will never find another man, so she joins him in his homophobic activities and fear mongering to bind him to her.


So how do you explain Michelle Bachman?  She seems to straddle categories.
 
2013-03-08 11:59:02 PM
Meh.  Religious old biddies (and feminists) are also against clubs where women perform for straight men.  So I guess they are "anti-straight"?  I feel persecuted.  Yawn, no not really.
 
2013-03-09 12:30:09 AM
OK, none of these are drag queens, but still:

Miriam Rivera:

www.planeta-kobiet.eu

Kim Petras:

img.karaoke-lyrics.net

Ann Coulter:

si0.twimg.com
 
2013-03-09 12:38:00 AM

spqr_ca: Mija: I don't know but I can tell you who will be going to hell.

1 Corinthians 6:9-11
Romans 1:18, 26, 27, 32

Some of us outgrow imaginary friends.


Is that why you live at Foster's?
 
2013-03-09 12:39:07 AM
LavenderWolf:Insulting someone you disagree with isn't an ad hominem attack. An ad hominem attack is when you insult someone, then use that insult to dismiss the argument without actually refuting it.


"You're ugly" is just an insult. "You're ugly and therefore I don't have to refute your argument" is an ad hominem.


Yes, but if the " and therefore I don't have to refute your argument" part is implied, then it IS an ad hominem.

Also, you're ugly.
 
2013-03-09 12:43:12 AM

Cyberluddite: Chinchillazilla: I just don't understand the knee-jerk reaction to homosexuality from fundies. They ignore almost everything else in Leviticus.

Jesus died for our sins so that we would be able to get into heaven without worrying about following all the crazy Old Testament rules, right? Is Jesus's sacrifice not good enough for you, fundies?

I've never understood this either.  Seriously, can someone with a better understanding of Christian theology explain this one for us?  I mean, if Jesus died for our sins and this means that as long as we accept Jebus as our savior we can now eat bacon for breakfast or have lobster for dinner or do a bunch of the other list of things that Leviticus says is a no-no if you want to get into heaven, then why is a guy sucking another guy's dick is still considered the equivalent of a "Go directly to Hell, do not meet Jesus, do not collect 200 sheckels" card?

I really do wish someone could explain this.  I'm sure there's gotta be some sort of theological justification for it--what is it?



The short answer is that both the Old Testament and the New Testament  supposedly condemn homosexuality (obviously the point is debated, but many Christians believe so.)  Thus being allowed to ignore the Old Testament's rules, which most Christians do, permits them to eat shellfish, for example, but homosexuality is still a sin because of the New Testament.

We have Paul (who wrote much of the New Testament) to thank for that.
 
2013-03-09 12:54:17 AM

fariasrv: ambercat: Other times, most especially in the case of women, they are so fugly/mean/crazy that they aren't getting the sexual attention they desire, so they lash out. A variation on that theme is when a conventionally unattractive women has married a closeted gay man, and she fears losing him and believes she will never find another man, so she joins him in his homophobic activities and fear mongering to bind him to her.

So how do you explain Michelle Bachman?  She seems to straddle categories.


I think she's a batshiat crazy, possibly closet lesbian married to a badly closeted man. She's not unattractive, but I think her crazy does act as a repelling force to, well, just about anyone who doesn't have a similar lack of sanity level. I would guess that her religion is the source of her closeting, and I would not be surprised if she and her husband had discussed the subject and had some kind of 'let's keep each other from falling into sin' pact on the subject. You'll notice, they've had a lot of foster children in their house, NONE of them boys.
 
2013-03-09 01:44:38 AM

Ghastly: Ed Grubermann: asynchron: Wow, subby, nice argument ad hominem. You are what's wrong with the world.

"Ooh, an article about a serious social issue! Let's compare how good-looking the two sides are! That will be super meaningful!"

Drag queens are a serious social issue? Since when?

[24.media.tumblr.com image 850x508]

Since I've been making boys cry when they ask for BIE.


you throw me off every time. bravo.
 
2013-03-09 02:17:57 AM

ciberido: LavenderWolf:Insulting someone you disagree with isn't an ad hominem attack. An ad hominem attack is when you insult someone, then use that insult to dismiss the argument without actually refuting it.


"You're ugly" is just an insult. "You're ugly and therefore I don't have to refute your argument" is an ad hominem.

Yes, but if the " and therefore I don't have to refute your argument" part is implied, then it IS an ad hominem.

Also, you're ugly.


But it was never implied in this case.
 
2013-03-09 03:05:24 AM

Diogenes: "Human sexuality is both a gift and a responsibility given to man by God," wrote Appling.

If that were true our genitals wouldn't look so funny.


They didn't look funny before the Fall. Duh.
 
2013-03-09 04:02:00 AM

LavenderWolf: ciberido: LavenderWolf:Insulting someone you disagree with isn't an ad hominem attack. An ad hominem attack is when you insult someone, then use that insult to dismiss the argument without actually refuting it.


"You're ugly" is just an insult. "You're ugly and therefore I don't have to refute your argument" is an ad hominem.

Yes, but if the " and therefore I don't have to refute your argument" part is implied, then it IS an ad hominem.

Also, you're ugly.

But it was never implied in this case.


Her argument doesn't need to be refuted because it's based entirely on bigotry and therefor deserves mocking rather than debate.  The fact that she's fugly (especially compared to the drag queen she's protesting against), possibly a closeted self-hating "deviant" herself just adds a big helping of delicious irony to the pie.
 
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