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(Stars and Stripes)   The Army just shut down tuition assistance for 201,000 troops. By the way, thanks for serving your country. See you in Korea   (stripes.com) divider line 304
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2013-03-08 01:46:14 PM
But the F-35 is okey-dokey to fly again right?
 
2013-03-08 02:09:43 PM
Ballsey.
 
2013-03-08 02:48:17 PM
This really pisses me off.  I know cutting government spending during a recession might sound like a good idea (as long as you don't know how economies actually work), but farking over vets is not an appropriate action ever.  Especially since every dollar the government spends on college tuition ends up returning seven to ten times as much in taxes due to higher lifetime average income.  Funding college tuition is one of the smartest programs the US ever came up with.
 
2013-03-08 03:07:53 PM
That's OK, I've been told over and over again that the sequester is no big deal and there will be no major consequences from it.
 
2013-03-08 03:10:21 PM
And when the sky darkens and the prospect is war
Who's given a gun and then pushed to the fore
And expected to die for the land of our birth
Though we've never owned one lousy handful of earth?

We're the first ones to starve, we're the first ones to die
The first ones in line for that pie-in-the-sky
And we're always the last when the cream is shared out
For the worker is working when the fat cat's about

All of these things the worker has done
From tilling the fields to carrying the gun
We've been yoked to the plough since time first began
And always expected to carry the can

Link
 
2013-03-08 03:45:46 PM
 
2013-03-08 03:48:01 PM

FloydA: but farking over vets is not an appropriate action ever.


This isn't vets, it's active duty troops.
 
2013-03-08 03:50:35 PM

BunkyBrewman: GI BIll and All VA Programs exempt from Sequestration:

http://militarybenefits.info/gi-bill-health-care-veterans-disability -a nd-all-va-benefits-programs-exempt-from-sequestration/


Might wanna have a spin through the first paragraph or two of the link. Then get back to militarybenifits.info with the bad news.
 
2013-03-08 03:53:44 PM

sno man: BunkyBrewman: GI BIll and All VA Programs exempt from Sequestration:

http://militarybenefits.info/gi-bill-health-care-veterans-disability -a nd-all-va-benefits-programs-exempt-from-sequestration/

Might wanna have a spin through the first paragraph or two of the link. Then get back to militarybenifits.info with the bad news.


Ummm, you *DO* know the difference between active duty troops getting tuition assistance and veterans using the GI Bill benefits, right?
 
2013-03-08 04:02:48 PM

dittybopper: FloydA: but farking over vets is not an appropriate action ever.

This isn't vets, it's active duty troops.


If anything, that makes it even worse IMO.
 
2013-03-08 04:06:03 PM

dittybopper: sno man: BunkyBrewman: GI BIll and All VA Programs exempt from Sequestration:

http://militarybenefits.info/gi-bill-health-care-veterans-disability -a nd-all-va-benefits-programs-exempt-from-sequestration/

Might wanna have a spin through the first paragraph or two of the link. Then get back to militarybenifits.info with the bad news.

Ummm, you *DO* know the difference between active duty troops getting tuition assistance and veterans using the GI Bill benefits, right?


Knew the difference.  Missed the details. Either way it's actually a really shiatty thing to do to.  Many soldiers signed up with the very subsidized education as the carrot... and for some this may effect their eligibility for promotion too.
 
2013-03-08 04:14:47 PM
My cousin was freaking out today trying to enroll in as many classes as she could before the 5pm cutoff, so I'm getting a kick...
 
2013-03-08 04:15:42 PM
Not cool.

If I got some alone time with Boner I would have some really choice words for him.
 
2013-03-08 04:20:12 PM

dittybopper: sno man: BunkyBrewman: GI BIll and All VA Programs exempt from Sequestration:

http://militarybenefits.info/gi-bill-health-care-veterans-disability -a nd-all-va-benefits-programs-exempt-from-sequestration/

Might wanna have a spin through the first paragraph or two of the link. Then get back to militarybenifits.info with the bad news.

Ummm, you *DO* know the difference between active duty troops getting tuition assistance and veterans using the GI Bill benefits, right?



As some who used all of their GI Bill after the service and used tuition assistance while in the the service while taking 9-hrs a semester and having it cover 70%...I would say this sucks no matter which area it is specific to.
 
2013-03-08 04:23:21 PM
The solution is obviously tax cuts for the wealthy.
 
2013-03-08 04:27:15 PM

FloydA: I know cutting government spending during a recession might sound like a good idea (as long as you don't know how economies actually work),


No, cutting spending in a recession would never sound like a good idea. Even if you didn't know how economics works, you would have to be enamored with astoundingly bad ideas as solutions for every problem to believe this is a good idea.
 
2013-03-08 04:29:49 PM

dr_blasto: FloydA: I know cutting government spending during a recession might sound like a good idea (as long as you don't know how economies actually work),

No, cutting spending in a recession would never sound like a good idea. Even if you didn't know how economics works, you would have to be enamored with astoundingly bad ideas as solutions for every problem to believe this is a good idea.


Remember who we're talking about here.
 
2013-03-08 04:47:10 PM

Because People in power are Stupid: The solution is obviously tax cuts for the wealthy.


If we don't appease the job creators, they might go Galt!
 
2013-03-08 04:47:14 PM

dr_blasto: FloydA: I know cutting government spending during a recession might sound like a good idea (as long as you don't know how economies actually work),

No, cutting spending in a recession would never sound like a good idea. Even if you didn't know how economics works, you would have to be enamored with astoundingly bad ideas as solutions for every problem to believe this is a good idea.


So, just put a little (R) after your name?
 
2013-03-08 04:47:53 PM
Friday it is suspending its tuition assistance program for soldiers newly enrolling in classes due to sequestration and other budgetary pressures.

But the checks to Halliburton, Lockheed, L-3 and the rest will remain on auto-pay.
 
2013-03-08 04:48:55 PM

FloydA: dittybopper: FloydA: but farking over vets is not an appropriate action ever.

This isn't vets, it's active duty troops.

If anything, that makes it even worse IMO.


Not really.  When I was active duty, I signed up for and had to drop several college classes.  Our Op Tempo basically meant that we would have to deploy as needed.  It's part of the job.  Getting your degree after you get out is safe, and that's the important part.
 
2013-03-08 04:49:17 PM
If cool, we're sending Egyptian soldiers to school in their place.
 
2013-03-08 04:49:55 PM
Yeah, it's about time you welfare queens got your reality check (as opposed to your usual money-for-nothing check).
 
2013-03-08 04:50:01 PM
You ARE aware that the tuition assistance program pays for itself from increased tax revenue from the graduates once they are out, less of an unemployment burden, and easier transition of vets, right?
 
2013-03-08 04:50:02 PM
As someone who just graduated from basic last year to pay for college, I'm getting a kick.

/in the head
/not the only reason I joined, but still
 
2013-03-08 04:50:21 PM
www.jamiefarr.com

Thanks for your service ... and for looking  fabulous!

It's stunning without looking too complicated.
 
2013-03-08 04:51:32 PM
Entitlements?
 
2013-03-08 04:52:00 PM

JudgeItoBox: Yeah, it's about time you welfare queens got your reality check (as opposed to your usual money-for-nothing check).


That's racist!
 
2013-03-08 04:52:09 PM
So did they cut spending on the private security contractors or are we still dumping half a million bux per merc?
 
2013-03-08 04:52:30 PM
Why is this 'Sad'? Didn't they all volunteer? It's not my problem.
 
2013-03-08 04:52:54 PM
FTA: tuition assistance program was available for troops to complete a high school diploma

I thought one must have a HS diploma (or equiv.) to enter the military? Wow!
 
2013-03-08 04:53:15 PM

Yogimus: You ARE aware that the tuition assistance program pays for itself from increased tax revenue from the graduates once they are out, less of an unemployment burden, and easier transition of vets, right?


Oh, stop being reasonable.
 
2013-03-08 04:53:30 PM

JudgeItoBox: Yeah, it's about time you welfare queens got your reality check (as opposed to your usual money-for-nothing check).


I know right? Damn freeloaders.
 
2013-03-08 04:53:42 PM

GAT_00: That's OK, I've been told over and over again that the sequester is no big deal and there will be no major consequences from it.


There won't be consequences to the moving of the President to the golf course or anything, they are just targeting things the little people like, like access to government facilities and education and stuff.  The little people fon't hardly donate anything to campaign funds like rich people and corporations do, so it will do them well to remember who butters their bread.  Or "they might regret it."
 
2013-03-08 04:53:44 PM
the government is no fan of the soldier
and by extension, the people who put them in there must feel the same

correct me if I'm wrong, I got kinda blowed up and my menory is merde
but didn't clinton withhold our pay for a time?
 
2013-03-08 04:53:47 PM
Scare tactic!!!!
 
2013-03-08 04:55:09 PM
Get ready for your draft kids.
 
2013-03-08 04:55:10 PM
Because the high pay for those who enlist more than makes up for the loss of education assistance...?
 
2013-03-08 04:55:46 PM

natas6.0: the government is no fan of the soldier
and by extension, the people who put them in there must feel the same

correct me if I'm wrong, I got kinda blowed up and my menory is merde
but didn't clinton withhold our pay for a time?


No. Congress did.

/separation of powers, how does it work?
 
2013-03-08 04:56:01 PM

Radioactive Ass: Get ready for your draft kids.


But in this new version everyone gets walkie-talkies instead of guns.
 
2013-03-08 04:57:06 PM
Soldiers need to stop freeloading off the taxpayer in the socialist utopia that is the US Military and be a little more bootstrappy.
 
2013-03-08 04:57:21 PM
Remember soldiers... Thank the Republicans.
 
2013-03-08 04:58:05 PM

JohnnyC: Remember soldiers... Thank the Republicans.


Ooooh no... Dems are not getting off that easy. Gas the whole lot of them.
 
2013-03-08 04:58:56 PM

Radioactive Ass: Get ready for your draft kids.


Ah yes, the "you're about to get drafted" comment I've heard every year since I was 18. Was waiting for that.
 
2013-03-08 04:59:34 PM
This is farked. Up.
 
2013-03-08 04:59:54 PM

GAT_00: That's OK, I've been told over and over again that the sequester is no big deal and there will be no major consequences from it.


Only the consequences that the Obama administration is making sure happen for publicity purposes.

Yes, he is doing this on purpose.

Yes. He is.
 
2013-03-08 05:00:21 PM
Obama better fix this and quick.

It was bad enough that the volunteers who watched several thousand people die on national TV went off to an invasion of a foreign country over oil instead of hunting down the man who murdered all those people.

Those volunteers went through multiple 15 month combat tours with little or no time off in-between tours, scavenging for scrap to build armor for their vehicles, on and on and on...

Now this. Just pay the vets. It will never be enough but we made a deal with them. Enough.

/Maybe all that Iraqi oil can pay the tuition bills. If it can pay for the war, it can pay for the warriors' educations. Windfall profits tax, please.
 
2013-03-08 05:01:31 PM

Radioactive Ass: Get ready for your draft kids.


Good thing they just lifted the ban on combat roles for women!  We just doubled the drafting pool!
 
2013-03-08 05:01:32 PM

Yogimus: JohnnyC: Remember soldiers... Thank the Republicans.

Ooooh no... Dems are not getting off that easy. Gas the whole lot of them.


Both sides have their faults, but this budget shiat is the result (or rather the accumulation) of the Right-Wings economy/budget/debt ceiling bullshiat and complete unwillingness to compromise at all, even after the country sent a clear message in November.

Far off with the BSAB bullshiat.
 
2013-03-08 05:02:35 PM

Burr: Radioactive Ass: Get ready for your draft kids.

Good thing they just lifted the ban on combat roles for women!  We just doubled the drafting pool!


... that drafting women thing is completely unrelated.
/Tell us some more about which you know nothing
 
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