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(Boing Boing)   Leave it to geeks to make the funniest real-world counterpoint to DRM. I give you... the DRM Chair   (boingboing.net) divider line 37
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2013-03-08 02:00:01 PM  
Do we really need a 2 min video of this?  My god that felt like 20 min. why is there such a long break between each person?
 
2013-03-08 02:01:02 PM  
#3 makes the chair a very lucky chair
 
2013-03-08 02:01:06 PM  
I liked how gingerly they sat on the chair each time.
 
2013-03-08 02:03:10 PM  
That guy's website makes Geocities look sane.
 
2013-03-08 02:07:54 PM  
well that was dumb
 
2013-03-08 02:12:41 PM  
Because people are able to rapidly reproduce a chair design and give it to all their friends and strangers half way across the world.
 
2013-03-08 02:19:24 PM  

AdolfClamwacker: Because people are able to rapidly reproduce a chair design and give it to all their friends and strangers half way across the world.


Apple already has a patent on the iChair so be careful
 
2013-03-08 02:26:41 PM  
That 2 minute video seemed like it took an hour.
 
2013-03-08 02:26:56 PM  

AdolfClamwacker: Because people are able to rapidly reproduce a chair design and give it to all their friends and strangers half way across the world.

That's not as far off as you think.

 
2013-03-08 02:27:09 PM  
I don't see that as DRM, I see it as planned obsolescence. Making something that will certainly break after a limited time in order to get the customer to come back and buy it again.
 
2013-03-08 02:31:05 PM  

Slives: I don't see that as DRM, I see it as planned obsolescence. Making something that will certainly break after a limited time in order to get the customer to come back and buy it again.


That's what DRM is, in part.  When they turn off the activation servers for FIFA '09 just in time for the launch of FIFA '11, there's a reason for that.
 
2013-03-08 02:44:03 PM  
Congrats on the green light buddy
 
2013-03-08 02:48:40 PM  

One Bad Apple: Congrats on the green light buddy


Baby's first green light.

I thought the premise of the article was funny at least.  Guess I should've linked to Escapist's article that had more info.  Decided to use a website that gets linked to a lot here instead, my bad.
 
2013-03-08 02:49:21 PM  

HeartBurnKid: Slives: I don't see that as DRM, I see it as planned obsolescence. Making something that will certainly break after a limited time in order to get the customer to come back and buy it again.

That's what DRM is, in part.  When they turn off the activation servers for FIFA '09 just in time for the launch of FIFA '11, there's a reason for that.


This and a lot more. Using the chair analogy you can't:

-paint or otherwise modify your chair
-loan your chair to a friend
-sell your chair when you no longer want it
-stand on your chair or use it in any way other than the intended purpose
-stop the manufacturer from modifying your chair if they choose to do so post purchase
 
2013-03-08 03:03:49 PM  

Tyrosine: This and a lot more. Using the chair analogy you can't:

-paint or otherwise modify your chair
-loan your chair to a friend
-sell your chair when you no longer want it
-stand on your chair or use it in any way other than the intended purpose
-stop the manufacturer from modifying your chair if they choose to do so post purchase


-Actually use the chair when the manufacturer's servers are overloaded by other people using their chairs as well.
 
2013-03-08 03:18:10 PM  

jaggspb: AdolfClamwacker: Because people are able to rapidly reproduce a chair design and give it to all their friends and strangers half way across the world.

Apple already has a patent on the iChair so be careful


Well they have a long history of telling people to sit and spin, but I'm not sure they've quantified it that finely..
 
2013-03-08 03:34:32 PM  
Without even clicking, I'm going to guess that this has something to do with Corky Doctorow and DRM being worse than the Holocaust and 9/11 combined.
 
2013-03-08 03:44:45 PM  
I'm surprised the insurance companies haven't gotten involved in this yet. If software that I bought and becomes unusable due to DRM and I make an insurance claim for the loss of property, (and if a lot of people started doing this) wouldn't the insurance companies be interested in throwing their weight behind DRM/copyright reform?
 
2013-03-08 03:47:12 PM  

Slives: I don't see that as DRM, I see it as planned obsolescence. Making something that will certainly break after a limited time in order to get the customer to come back and buy it again.


Right, which is something that you often see even outside digital media.  ever notice how things seem to break just outside the warranty period?
 
2013-03-08 03:52:07 PM  
This is the type of shiat that gets made when a stoner chick is a performing arts major, and her boyfriend is a computer science major and she is boning an engineering nerd on the side.

And probably guy #7 as well... I just didn't like the look of him.
 
2013-03-08 03:53:01 PM  

quiotu: One Bad Apple: Congrats on the green light buddy

Baby's first green light.

I thought the premise of the article was funny at least.  Guess I should've linked to Escapist's article that had more info.  Decided to use a website that gets linked to a lot here instead, my bad.


Good job to you sir!
/fellow Omaha Farker
 
2013-03-08 04:57:51 PM  

pkrzycki: quiotu: One Bad Apple: Congrats on the green light buddy

Baby's first green light.

I thought the premise of the article was funny at least.  Guess I should've linked to Escapist's article that had more info.  Decided to use a website that gets linked to a lot here instead, my bad.

Good job to you sir!
/fellow Omaha Farker


Were you at the October party ? I thought I had all the local talent lit up already.
 
2013-03-08 05:40:20 PM  
Antimatter:
Right, which is something that you often see even outside digital media.  ever notice how things seem to break just outside the warranty period?

It's almost as if people make something, test it to see how long it should last under reasonable conditions, then offer a warranty to cover the period before most of them are expected to break... The nerve of not making immortal products!
 
2013-03-08 05:50:39 PM  

Antimatter: Slives: I don't see that as DRM, I see it as planned obsolescence. Making something that will certainly break after a limited time in order to get the customer to come back and buy it again.

Right, which is something that you often see even outside digital media.  ever notice how things seem to break just outside the warranty period?


For me, this is most apparent in cell phones. About 3 months before my contract is up, my phone starts to break down, which makes me despearate for the day I can run in and buy a new one. Definitely not a coincidence.
 
2013-03-08 06:34:47 PM  

AdolfClamwacker: Because people are able to rapidly reproduce a chair design and give it to all their friends and strangers half way across the world.


Just a question of scaling for a 3D printer
 
2013-03-08 09:39:29 PM  
That took 48 hours? Well, I guess if you included meetings and committees and design comparisons.

I woulda been a fun guy at the conversation.

Boss: "Okay, idea, let's show how DRM would work in a chair by having one that stops working after 8 uses."
Me: "Simple, little pressure sensor and an explosive bolt. Then it's just a matter of designing the chair around that bolt."
Boss: "Is that really necessary?"
Me: "It's a quick solution."

Actually, the real problem is everyone was comp-sci or similar. That's why everyone was so ginger on it and it looked like crap. Someone had a vague sense of putting the chair together with model wax, not realizing hot melt would have made a better adhesive and would still work with the nichrome dissemmber.
 
2013-03-08 09:44:34 PM  
If that were real, God-honest DRM, it would not have given the warnings and would have burned under the 9th person, not self-destruct peacefully when nobody was sitting on it. It would have made the video a tad funnier as well.
 
2013-03-08 09:51:16 PM  
Tyrosine:
This and a lot more. Using the chair analogy you can't:

-paint or otherwise modify your chair
-loan your chair to a friend
-sell your chair when you no longer want it
-stand on your chair or use it in any way other than the intended purpose
-stop the manufacturer from modifying your chair if they choose to do so post purchase


That's where the disconnect starts. The seller wraps their item (of whatever type) in a licensing agreement that conveys limited use rights to the purchaser. You don't own the item; the item isn't yours. It's theirs, though you're allowed to make use of it - under specific circumstances, perhaps for a limited time, certainly with no transferability implied. Sellers feel that way about the three Ms (music, movies, microcode) and they're happy to extend that as far as the law will permit.

That view -- that the buyer doesn't really buy anything more than a temporary, non-transferable limited-use right -- is absolute horseshiat. It has the potential to turn everything you own into a ride at the fair.

Big fixes need to happen to reverse this trend, starting with an overhaul of the structures of copyright and patents in every first-world country. Unfortunately that means attacking the people with money (and by extension, access to sweet political representation and bought-and-paid-for lobbyists), which tends to be a bit like trying to ice skate uphill.
 
2013-03-08 10:18:40 PM  
Did anyone else want to slap half those people who were attempting to dress as individuals but ended up all looking the same?
 
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2013-03-08 10:25:27 PM  
How do you spell "stupid?"
S-t-u-p-i-d....
 
2013-03-09 12:19:50 AM  
Subby used "funniest" but I'm having a hard time managing to achieve `mildly boring'
 
2013-03-09 02:04:47 AM  

t3knomanser: Tyrosine: This and a lot more. Using the chair analogy you can't:

-paint or otherwise modify your chair
-loan your chair to a friend
-sell your chair when you no longer want it
-stand on your chair or use it in any way other than the intended purpose
-stop the manufacturer from modifying your chair if they choose to do so post purchase

-Actually use the chair when the manufacturer's servers are overloaded by other people using their chairs as well.


And, of course, actually own the chair. You have to sign a multi-page chair license that allows the manufacturer to destroy your chair if they think you did anything untoward to it.
 
2013-03-09 03:00:16 AM  

IlGreven: t3knomanser: Tyrosine: This and a lot more. Using the chair analogy you can't:

-paint or otherwise modify your chair
-loan your chair to a friend
-sell your chair when you no longer want it
-stand on your chair or use it in any way other than the intended purpose
-stop the manufacturer from modifying your chair if they choose to do so post purchase

-Actually use the chair when the manufacturer's servers are overloaded by other people using their chairs as well.

And, of course, actually own the chair. You have to sign a multi-page chair license that allows the manufacturer to destroy your chair if they think you did anything untoward to it.


And by untoward, you mean...?

My mind went in rule 34 territory.
 
2013-03-09 08:36:56 AM  
It wasn't viral video entertaining, but from an engineering standpoint I found it interesting enough.
 
2013-03-09 08:41:22 AM  
A real testament to DRM-like furniture would be Ikea's:  Install it once but don't even think about trying to move & install it somewhere else.  Oh and all dark incantations you gotta perform just to get it installed the first time.

/Their stuff is still the shiat
 
2013-03-09 09:41:17 AM  
This has already been done more effectively with an automobile, the Chevy Vega.
 
2013-03-10 01:27:10 PM  
My republitownies interestingly enough think DRM is horseshiat too.

If you buy a product fair n square, no matter what it is, it's your property, period, world without end.
 
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