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(Center for Public Integrity)   A pledge not to take lobbyists' money isn't stopping President Obama from, well, letting lobbyists fundraise for him   (publicintegrity.org) divider line 13
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2013-03-08 12:30:23 PM
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GoldSpider: Car_Ramrod: So, not only must Obama deny lobbyist money, he must deny money from anyone that works for a company that employs lobbyists? That's quite a lot of companies. That's pretty unreasonable.

If I wanted to convince people that I wasn't going to be influenced by lobbyists, I'd probably try a little harder to distance myself from them.  But that's just me.


Keep tilting at those windmills. The fact is that Obama is abiding by his promise, and you came in this thread half-cocked thinking the article proved that wrong based upon the headline, even saying "we refuse to hold our guy to the expectations he set for himself". Now that it's been pointed out the article doesn't say anything of the sort, you're moving the goalposts. We get it, Obama bad. Happy Friday.
2013-03-08 11:56:39 AM
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GoldSpider: Is this the thread where we refuse to hold our guy to the expectations he set for himself because the other side doesn't meet those expectations?


No, it's the thread where we read the actual content of the article, and I realize that Drew is just trolling us for page views.
2013-03-08 11:37:01 AM
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There's nothing illegal about registered lobbyists contributing to a presidential campaign, as long as those donations are reported. But Obama's campaign went further and voluntarily rejected such contributions. Still, some of his bundlers lead or work for law firms that also provide government lobbying services, although they are not lobbyists themselves.

...that's it? That's the thing? Ok...
2013-03-08 07:21:05 PM
1 votes:
What does it matter after Citizen's United? Can you even stop someone from campagning on your behalf?

Kim Jong Un could pay to air commercials supporting Ted Nugent for POTUS if he wanted to. Neither Ted nor anyone else could stop him. Money is speech and it is easily convertible from foreign currencies.
2013-03-08 01:14:27 PM
1 votes:
This is an impeachable offense for sure. He should have stuck with those lies that don't hurt anyone: Namely starting wars on false pretenses. They seem to go over pretty well with the Right.
2013-03-08 12:58:45 PM
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Car_Ramrod: James!: I worked for an organization that occasionally lobbied congress.  Clearly I cannot donate to Obama.

I currently work for a non-profit and we hire lobbyists on a regular basis (one of the lobbyists is even one of my good friends!). I clearly should be banned from giving money to anyone.


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2013-03-08 12:55:17 PM
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James!: I worked for an organization that occasionally lobbied congress.  Clearly I cannot donate to Obama.


I currently work for a non-profit and we hire lobbyists on a regular basis (one of the lobbyists is even one of my good friends!). I clearly should be banned from giving money to anyone.
2013-03-08 12:50:28 PM
1 votes:
I worked for an organization that occasionally lobbied congress.  Clearly I cannot donate to Obama.
2013-03-08 12:50:01 PM
1 votes:
ct.fra.bz

When Republicans start acting like they care who fundraise for them, then I'll worry.
2013-03-08 12:27:03 PM
1 votes:

GoldSpider: Car_Ramrod: So, not only must Obama deny lobbyist money, he must deny money from anyone that works for a company that employs lobbyists? That's quite a lot of companies. That's pretty unreasonable.

If I wanted to convince people that I wasn't going to be influenced by lobbyists, I'd probably try a little harder to distance myself from them.  But that's just me.


President GodlSpider, pure as the driven snow.
2013-03-08 12:03:42 PM
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GoldSpider: Car_Ramrod: So, what exactly is your complaint? That people aren't criticizing Obama for something he didn't do?

They're excusing him on a technicality.  Yes, he did pledge to reject donations from "registered lobbyists"; a pledge that reasonable people can interpret as an effort to reduce the influence of connected special interests.  "He only meant registered lobbyists!  Gotcha!" kind of falls short of that expectation.


No, it doesn't. Once again, did you RTFA:

some of his bundlers lead or work for law firms that also provide government lobbying services, although they are not lobbyists themselves

So, not only must Obama deny lobbyist money, he must deny money from anyone that works for a company that employs lobbyists? That's quite a lot of companies. That's pretty unreasonable.
2013-03-08 11:46:33 AM
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GoldSpider: Car_Ramrod: Did you read the article? How is he not being held to his own expectations?

I said "thread" not "article".


So, what exactly is your complaint? That people aren't criticizing Obama for something he didn't do?
2013-03-08 11:38:03 AM
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GoldSpider: Is this the thread where we refuse to hold our guy to the expectations he set for himself because the other side doesn't meet those expectations?


Did you read the article? How is he not being held to his own expectations?
 
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