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(NYPost)   TSA suffers another buttfumble, lets IED through two layers of screening - but they did catch the agent trying to smuggle a doll with wires sticking out of it and BOMB INSIDE written in three-inch-high letters   (nypost.com) divider line 83
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2013-03-08 01:24:32 PM  

Itchy92: maxheck: In the interest of not getting busted for a felony, let me say that "a friend" went through a domestic flight security line with multiple cigarette lighters, match packs and a knife in his carryon just yesterday. He also had a laptop battery with 172,800 joules of energy in it.

He still had to take off his shoes.

/ IT WAS A FRIEND, I TELL YOU!

All that stuff is legal, including the knife as of a few days ago. As for the laptop battery:

[imgs.xkcd.com image 345x478]


I forgot to tell you the best part... "This friend" hand-rolls cigarettes, and had 6oz. of tobacco in their checked luggage and another 1oz. in their carryon that was passed without comment. I don't know, nor do I personally care, but I'm pretty sure someone could have moved significant amounts of dope if they had cared to.
 
2013-03-08 01:26:50 PM  
if its a fake bomb whats the problem? i'm confused
 
2013-03-08 01:32:03 PM  

Jabberwookiee: I've got an explosive device in my pants, if you know what I mean, and I think that you do.


Your diarreah is really that bad, huh?
 
2013-03-08 01:32:31 PM  
Snarcoleptic_Hoosier:

Interesting. I'm stuck in retail, and we get secret shoppers (corporate spies) about every 2 months. As an assistant manager, my ass can be fired if I don't offer the Plastic Chinese Gadget O' The Month because I'm clearly not doing my job.

Why can't the same standards be put on the TSA? Being a crazy liberal, I would argue that failing to detect a bomb getting through security should have at least the same consequences as failing to offer a $4 multicolored spatula set to every halfwit that wanders in.


I'm going to guess here and say that anyone who wants to do significant harm to a country will plan things out a little better than the local guy who just wants to pull a fast one.

The fortunate part being that 99% of the idiots who want to do stuff like that are no brighter than the guy who huffs paint while still in the aisle at Wal-Mart. When it comes down to it, stupidity is about the only thing saving the world from terrorism.
 
2013-03-08 01:33:44 PM  

hawcian: 2.36 inches = 6 cm, so I'm guessing they used centimeters and then just converted.


Fine. let's leave aside the fact that they used a metric measurement instead of the normal one (inches). Which is weird, but- whatever. WHY did they pick 6cm? What makes a 6cm blade safe, while a 6.5cm blade is uber-dangerous? And why do they measure from the end of the grip, and not the sharp part of the blade?
 
2013-03-08 01:36:07 PM  

Itchy92: They have a speed line: it's called TSA Pre-Check, and it makes me hate traveling so much less. You have to be a Trusted Traveler through Global Entry ($100 for 5 years and a background check), and then you don't have to take off shoes, jackets, belts, don't have to take out your laptop or liquids, and only go through a metal detector. There's also never a line. I travel for a living, so this was a freaking god-send.


It's only available at SOME airports, and, of course, "TSA will always incorporate random and unpredictable security measures throughout the airport and no individual will be guaranteed expedited screening"- so they can still fark with you.
 
2013-03-08 01:52:42 PM  

fredklein: Itchy92: They have a speed line: it's called TSA Pre-Check, and it makes me hate traveling so much less. You have to be a Trusted Traveler through Global Entry ($100 for 5 years and a background check), and then you don't have to take off shoes, jackets, belts, don't have to take out your laptop or liquids, and only go through a metal detector. There's also never a line. I travel for a living, so this was a freaking god-send.

It's only available at SOME airports, and, of course, "TSA will always incorporate random and unpredictable security measures throughout the airport and no individual will be guaranteed expedited screening"- so they can still fark with you.


True, but I've seen it at most international airports recently, even St. Louis. And of course they will say they reserve the right to fark with you, but I'm of middle-eastern descent, have a pretty unusual "Ay-rab"-sounding name, and am usually scruffy and unshaven, and I've never been bothered by the TSA. In fact, I get stopped traveling around Europe way more often than in the states. Not saying the TSA isn't an invasive, insatiable demon-cock-gobbling waste of money, just sharing my experience.
 
2013-03-08 01:53:27 PM  

Ontos: special20: Fire the lot of them.

Good luck with that... They're unionized now.


Oh, I'm sure Scott Walker and his ilk wouldn't see that as an obstacle.
 
2013-03-08 01:57:23 PM  

Itchy92: fredklein: Itchy92: They have a speed line: it's called TSA Pre-Check, and it makes me hate traveling so much less. You have to be a Trusted Traveler through Global Entry ($100 for 5 years and a background check), and then you don't have to take off shoes, jackets, belts, don't have to take out your laptop or liquids, and only go through a metal detector. There's also never a line. I travel for a living, so this was a freaking god-send.


what a farking scam
 
2013-03-08 01:57:44 PM  

CheekyMonkey: Jabberwookiee: I've got an explosive device in my pants, if you know what I mean, and I think that you do.

Yeah, but I hear it goes off prematurely...


thorthor: Jabberwookiee: I've got an explosive device in my pants, if you know what I mean, and I think that you do.

Your diarreah is really that bad, huh?


My jokes rarely come off well...no wait...that didn't come out right...maybe I should stop running off at the mouth...what I mean is...um...
 
2013-03-08 01:57:56 PM  
Is this the TSA hate thread? I actually ordered a HOA hate thread with a side of red light camera, but this'll work.
 
2013-03-08 02:14:34 PM  
they got something by the TSA but they won't tell us what..lets write a scary report about it before we even know if it is harmful
 
2013-03-08 02:17:01 PM  

kidgenius: Grandemadaca: lets IED through two layers of screening
[www.womenshealthmag.com image 200x200]
BIRTH CONTROL is banned on airplanes?
What is this, Catholic Airlines?

IED, not IUD


s3.amazonaws.com
 
2013-03-08 02:31:47 PM  

special20: Ontos: special20: Fire the lot of them.

Good luck with that... They're unionized now.

Oh, I'm sure Scott Walker and his ilk wouldn't see that as an obstacle.


Didn't save PATCO, either.
 
2013-03-08 03:12:30 PM  

maxheck: Itchy92: maxheck: In the interest of not getting busted for a felony, let me say that "a friend" went through a domestic flight security line with multiple cigarette lighters, match packs and a knife in his carryon just yesterday. He also had a laptop battery with 172,800 joules of energy in it.

He still had to take off his shoes.

/ IT WAS A FRIEND, I TELL YOU!

All that stuff is legal, including the knife as of a few days ago. As for the laptop battery:

[imgs.xkcd.com image 345x478]

I forgot to tell you the best part... "This friend" hand-rolls cigarettes, and had 6oz. of tobacco in their checked luggage and another 1oz. in their carryon that was passed without comment. I don't know, nor do I personally care, but I'm pretty sure someone could have moved significant amounts of dope if they had cared to.


Did he complain the the TSA about fondling his familyjoules?
 
2013-03-08 03:23:14 PM  
And it was where, in 2010, an airport "Romeo" was able to walk unticketed and unscreened into a secure area so he could kiss his girlfriend goodbye.

ffs, I remember being able to walk to the gate when I was a kid. the horror.
 
2013-03-08 03:36:40 PM  

eggrolls: special20: Ontos: special20: Fire the lot of them.

Good luck with that... They're unionized now.

Oh, I'm sure Scott Walker and his ilk wouldn't see that as an obstacle.

Didn't save PATCO, either.


Yeah, it bugs me how ordinary people who have to work for a living are happy to believe that unions are bad. Same thing with poor folks that vote Republican I suppose.
 
2013-03-08 03:38:39 PM  

fredklein: hawcian: 2.36 inches = 6 cm, so I'm guessing they used centimeters and then just converted.

Fine. let's leave aside the fact that they used a metric measurement instead of the normal one (inches). Which is weird, but- whatever. WHY did they pick 6cm? What makes a 6cm blade safe, while a 6.5cm blade is uber-dangerous? And why do they measure from the end of the grip, and not the sharp part of the blade?


Distance from the skin to vital organs.
 
Xai
2013-03-08 03:54:04 PM  
The TSA aren't there to make us safe, they are there to make us FEEL safe.
 
2013-03-08 04:03:57 PM  

KSCA75: Someone cue up the .gif of Batman running with a bomb.  That is about the only one they would really catch.


I doubt they would even notice, given the article.
 
2013-03-08 04:12:43 PM  
Our last line of defense in places like Newark Airport is someone like Shaquinua who is too upset about babby-daddy not sending the check on time again to worry about who has what in their bags.
 
2013-03-08 04:16:03 PM  

Xai: The TSA aren't there to make us safe, they are there to make us FEEL safe.


with added benefit of it being a welfare-job, so that keep the votes coming in.
 
2013-03-08 04:35:46 PM  

LemSkroob: Xai: The TSA aren't there to make us safe, they are there to make us FEEL safe.

with added benefit of it being a welfare-job, so that keep the votes coming in.


Like the military?

/ ducks and runs, but still laughs at LemSkroob's dumbassery.
 
2013-03-08 04:41:04 PM  

kidgenius: Grandemadaca: lets IED through two layers of screening
[www.womenshealthmag.com image 200x200]
BIRTH CONTROL is banned on airplanes?
What is this, Catholic Airlines?

IED, not IUD


kidgenius, not so much. It's a joke son, I tell ya, it's a joke.
 
2013-03-08 04:45:43 PM  

Grandemadaca: kidgenius: Grandemadaca: lets IED through two layers of screening
[www.womenshealthmag.com image 200x200]
BIRTH CONTROL is banned on airplanes?
What is this, Catholic Airlines?

IED, not IUD

[s3.amazonaws.com image 512x372]


sorry, didn't see your post..
 
2013-03-08 06:03:01 PM  
Years ago, when I was sending a package to a friend in Hawaii, I was to write "BOMBS" all over the box but lightly crossed out.  Don't think I could get away with that these days.

/how to get thrown off a flight
 
2013-03-08 06:04:51 PM  
Weird, it took the image in the preview.
farm3.staticflickr.com
 
2013-03-08 06:05:03 PM  

fredklein: hawcian: 2.36 inches = 6 cm, so I'm guessing they used centimeters and then just converted.

Fine. let's leave aside the fact that they used a metric measurement instead of the normal one (inches). Which is weird, but- whatever. WHY did they pick 6cm? What makes a 6cm blade safe, while a 6.5cm blade is uber-dangerous? And why do they measure from the end of the grip, and not the sharp part of the blade?


Why is it legal the day after his/her 18th birthday but filthy pedophilia and rape the day before? I'm obviously alive, the chair is obviously dead, but what about a virus?

Sometimes you just have to pick an essentially arbitrary cutoff that's halfway plausible.
 
2013-03-08 06:07:26 PM  

hawcian: Is that a simulated IED in your pants, or are you just happy to see me?


Depends on how long you want to continue the pat down.
 
2013-03-08 07:23:26 PM  

Itchy92: fredklein: Itchy92: They have a speed line: it's called TSA Pre-Check, and it makes me hate traveling so much less. You have to be a Trusted Traveler through Global Entry ($100 for 5 years and a background check), and then you don't have to take off shoes, jackets, belts, don't have to take out your laptop or liquids, and only go through a metal detector. There's also never a line. I travel for a living, so this was a freaking god-send.

It's only available at SOME airports, and, of course, "TSA will always incorporate random and unpredictable security measures throughout the airport and no individual will be guaranteed expedited screening"- so they can still fark with you.

True, but I've seen it at most international airports recently, even St. Louis. And of course they will say they reserve the right to fark with you, but I'm of middle-eastern descent, have a pretty unusual "Ay-rab"-sounding name, and am usually scruffy and unshaven, and I've never been bothered by the TSA. In fact, I get stopped traveling around Europe way more often than in the states. Not saying the TSA isn't an invasive, insatiable demon-cock-gobbling waste of money, just sharing my experience.


OTOH, I have heard from 'friends' that if you're a woman with big ol' titties, it's not unusual for you to have to go to the nudeoscope machines TWICE, with a male technician running them. Like, you'll go through, and then they'll tell you they need to re-scan you. So there is that. We're apparently very safe from anything round and breast shaped that women might be carrying around in their bras.
 
2013-03-09 12:16:59 AM  
s3.jspenguin.org

/"Nine times out of ten it's an electric razor. But ... every once in a while"
// Oblig
 
2013-03-09 01:14:52 AM  
2.36 inches.
How long is a box knife with the blade extended? 1, 1.5 inches? And they took down 4 planes that way? But 2.36 is allowed. Box knives arent. Does anyone at TSA actually know anything about security? I work in corrections. Blades of any length are dangerous in the wrong hands. Blades on an airplane are not dangerous anymore. Because any fool that pulls out a knife to take over the plane is going to get curb stomped. Give me my water, my shampoo, my toothpaste and my swiss army knives, morans.
 
2013-03-09 05:43:16 AM  
FTFA:  "Due to the security-sensitive nature of the tests, TSA does not publicly share details about how they are conducted, what specifically is tested or the outcomes."

Translation: We're as bad as you think.
 
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