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2013-03-08 12:29:12 PM
Ya know...I wouldn't put it past PETA to booby trap deer and blow up hunters.
 
2013-03-08 12:30:39 PM
Oh, and +1
My Friday morning laugh.
Today IS Friday, right?
 
2013-03-08 12:57:51 PM
So what you're saying is that Amuricca now has a plauge of Sharia-law following deer willing to blow themselves up to appease Bambi, and recieve their 72 Does in Heaven?
 
2013-03-08 01:01:07 PM

hardinparamedic: So what you're saying is that Amuricca now has a plauge of Sharia-law following deer willing to blow themselves up to appease Bambi, and recieve their 72 Does in Heaven?


Doe!
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2013-03-08 01:29:35 PM
Stupid nature needs us to regulate things for it.

Hunters are doing the deer a favor, really.
 
2013-03-08 01:30:04 PM
I am sure somebody has a problem with this
 
2013-03-08 01:32:25 PM
Would this not be fun.  Hit a deer in the right spot, it blows up.

I think this would expand the sport of hunting.  Just be careful it you get a dud.
 
2013-03-08 01:33:23 PM
It'd only be fair to legalize hand grenades then, to explode them before they explode you!
 
2013-03-08 01:36:38 PM
Carnac: Sis-boom-bah!
Ed: Sis-boom-bah.


Carnac: Describe the sound made when a sheep explodes.
 
2013-03-08 01:36:52 PM
I need to take up archery. Hunting with a firearm is fun and all, but archery would be a good skill to learn.
 
2013-03-08 01:37:19 PM

SnarfVader: hardinparamedic: So what you're saying is that Amuricca now has a plauge of Sharia-law following deer willing to blow themselves up to appease Bambi, and recieve their 72 Does in Heaven?

Doe!
[i212.photobucket.com image 600x600]


Doe!

Doh!

Only cause I'm a simpsons fan.
 
2013-03-08 01:37:49 PM

J. Frank Parnell: Stupid nature needs us to regulate things for it.

Hunters are doing the deer a favor, really.


Nature had a great way of regulating itself until humans intervened.

naturalunseenhazards.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-03-08 01:39:27 PM

Frank N Stein: I need to take up archery. Hunting with a firearm is fun and all, but archery would be a good skill to learn.


Yes, yes it is.
 
2013-03-08 01:40:00 PM

SkeletorUpInHere: SnarfVader: hardinparamedic: So what you're saying is that Amuricca now has a plauge of Sharia-law following deer willing to blow themselves up to appease Bambi, and recieve their 72 Does in Heaven?

Doe!
[i212.photobucket.com image 600x600]

Doe!

Doh!

Only cause I'm a simpsons fan.


Psst... I knew it was Doh!
 
2013-03-08 01:41:07 PM
IIRC other places have increased tag limits because of severe overpopulation.
 
2013-03-08 01:41:07 PM

Glitchwerks: J. Frank Parnell: Stupid nature needs us to regulate things for it.

Hunters are doing the deer a favor, really.

Nature had a great way of regulating itself until humans intervened.


Unfortunately wolves around any substantial human population just wouldn't work.
 
2013-03-08 01:42:36 PM
jehovahs witness protection:

Ya know...I wouldn't put it past PETA to booby trap deer and blow up hunters.

Not that I have any fondness for PETA, but I have to ask... Do you check under your bed every night for imagined hippie threats? Like... Girls with dreadlocks and unshaven legs holding knives or something?

Just trying to understand your world.

Meanwhile, here in MD... I live on the edge of a state park and there are a few times a year when I get absurd numbers of deer... They have devastated the local forests in that there is no undergrowth at all left, which cannot be right. It's pretty, but nothing but close-cropped herbage and trees isn't a forest.
 
2013-03-08 01:43:55 PM

Frank N Stein: I need to take up archery. Hunting with a firearm is fun effective and all, but archery would be a good skill to learn fun.


Just understand you won't eat anything.
 
2013-03-08 01:45:34 PM

maxheck: jehovahs witness protection:

Ya know...I wouldn't put it past PETA to booby trap deer and blow up hunters.

Not that I have any fondness for PETA, but I have to ask... Do you check under your bed every night for imagined hippie threats? Like... Girls with dreadlocks and unshaven legs holding knives or something?

Just trying to understand your world.

Meanwhile, here in MD... I live on the edge of a state park and there are a few times a year when I get absurd numbers of deer... They have devastated the local forests in that there is no undergrowth at all left, which cannot be right. It's pretty, but nothing but close-cropped herbage and trees isn't a forest.


I feel that any father that doesn't introduce their child to outdoor activities, including camping (real camping) fishing, and hunting is doing their child a great disservice. Hunting really should be more popular than it is.
 
2013-03-08 01:45:57 PM

Glitchwerks: J. Frank Parnell: Stupid nature needs us to regulate things for it.

Hunters are doing the deer a favor, really.

Nature had a great way of regulating itself until humans intervened.

[naturalunseenhazards.files.wordpress.com image 850x509]


Things thgat eat people tend to not last long
 
2013-03-08 01:46:38 PM

FARK rebel soldier: Frank N Stein: I need to take up archery. Hunting with a firearm is fun effective and all, but archery would be a good skill to learn fun.

Just understand you won't eat anything.


My hunting is usually of the upland or water foul verity. Bow hunting for that would be hard.
 
2013-03-08 01:47:51 PM

Glitchwerks: Nature had a great way of regulating itself until humans intervened.


Yes, a wolf once bit a person, then hunters bravely killed them all in absolute safety to protect us all.

Predator populations would have a better chance of returning if we didn't keep prey populations as low as possible, and the logic for keeping them as low as possible is because there aren't enough predators.

i0.kym-cdn.com
 
2013-03-08 01:47:56 PM
Oh, the exploding deer of the night
Explode for us, for we need light
For in the darkness, it is a fright
Explode for us deer, to give us sight
 
2013-03-08 01:49:11 PM

J. Frank Parnell: Glitchwerks: Nature had a great way of regulating itself until humans intervened.

Yes, a wolf once bit a person, then hunters bravely killed them all in absolute safety to protect us all.

Predator populations would have a better chance of returning if we didn't keep prey populations as low as possible, and the logic for keeping them as low as possible is because there aren't enough predators.

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Are you aware that wolves eat things OTHER than deer as well?
 
2013-03-08 01:50:00 PM
You can only kill female deer. Wait till NOW hears about this.
 
2013-03-08 01:50:18 PM

Yogimus: Are you aware that wolves eat things OTHER than deer as well?


Let me guess, a wolf ate your baby?
 
2013-03-08 01:53:40 PM
We used to have Mountain Lions. I guess they ate too many farm animals.

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2013-03-08 01:54:01 PM

Frank N Stein: I need to take up archery. Hunting with a firearm is fun and all, but archery would be a good skill to learn.


My youngest brother is an avid bow hunter in NC. His archery tag is good for 6 deer, only two of which may be bucks, and another tag is only $10 more. NC really wants to thin the herd!

/he took 7 does last year
 
2013-03-08 01:54:12 PM

Frank N Stein: I need to take up archery. Hunting with a firearm is fun and all, but archery would be a good skill to learn.


Having dabbled in it when I was younger, it's actually kind of difficult. Or maybe I just sucked at it. I know there are bow-hunters out there, but I would never attempt to kill an animal that way.I'd be afraid I would merely wound it and cause it much pain.

But yeah, overpopulation of deer is a big problem. We've killed off most of the predators (wolves) who helped keep the population under control.

A few years ago, a town in Texas tried to expand hunting season but got shut down by crazy people (animal rights activists) so they had started rounding them up and sending them to Mexico -where I suspect they were promptly slaughtered.

Though not a predator of deer, I did see a fox trotting down a sidewalk in town the other day. I even saw a coyote wandering around the streets of Glendale, AZ (which is basically Phoenix). It always makes me wonder where the fark they live and what they're living off of. The fox I saw the other night disappeared into someone's back yard.I wonder if they're missing a cat or a puppy now.. Actually, the fox was pretty small. It could probably kill a small cat or puppy - I think - but more likely feeds on rabbits. I'm too lazy to research it. I just think it's cool to see wild animals roaming around town.

Sadly, I've witnessed development devastate prairie dog habitat near me and I haven't seen a hawk in my neighborhood since. I guess I shouldn't mourn the loss of prairie dogs since they're flea-ridden carriers of the plague, but I do miss the hawks.
 
2013-03-08 01:54:30 PM
Frank N Stein:

maxheck: jehovahs witness protection:

Ya know...I wouldn't put it past PETA to booby trap deer and blow up hunters.

Not that I have any fondness for PETA, but I have to ask... Do you check under your bed every night for imagined hippie threats? Like... Girls with dreadlocks and unshaven legs holding knives or something?

Just trying to understand your world.

Meanwhile, here in MD... I live on the edge of a state park and there are a few times a year when I get absurd numbers of deer... They have devastated the local forests in that there is no undergrowth at all left, which cannot be right. It's pretty, but nothing but close-cropped herbage and trees isn't a forest.

I feel that any father that doesn't introduce their child to outdoor activities, including camping (real camping) fishing, and hunting is doing their child a great disservice. Hunting really should be more popular than it is.


Agreed, although I have no idea how that applies to the post you replied to.

I don't hunt myself, I know there's too many damn deer about (certainly here) but it's not worth the effort and they're nice decoration. I did however once catch a 6 point buck a friend chased into a stream towards me and cut it's throat. It was tasty. I figure that gives me hunter cred.
 
2013-03-08 01:55:38 PM

Glitchwerks: Yogimus: Are you aware that wolves eat things OTHER than deer as well?

Let me guess, a wolf ate your baby?


If wolves lost their aversion to people enough that they were willing to roam the burbs killing deer, you can bet that they would have no problem with going after people too.
 
2013-03-08 01:58:50 PM
Have you ever tried to push a deer carcass threw a fence?
 
2013-03-08 01:59:46 PM

JesseL: If wolves lost their aversion to people enough that they were willing to roam the burbs killing deer, you can bet that they would have no problem with going after people too.


You watched "The Grey" one time too many.
 
2013-03-08 02:01:55 PM

Yogimus: Are you aware that wolves eat things OTHER than deer as well


Like small children?

I'm okay with that.

You know why my cat has survived as long as she has? It's because she stays indoors and doesn't run all over the neighborhood farking other cats and getting into fights with other other predators and doesn't catch plague from prairie dogs. And of course there are snakes too....and cars....and psychotic small children who like to torture stray cats.
 
2013-03-08 02:03:01 PM

Glitchwerks: JesseL: If wolves lost their aversion to people enough that they were willing to roam the burbs killing deer, you can bet that they would have no problem with going after people too.

You watched "The Grey" one time too many.


And you've watched too many Disney movies.

Why exactly wouldn't wolves want to eat all these slow, fat, tasty bipeds? They avoid us now because they've got sense enough to realize we're dangerous motherfarkers.

If we're not dangerous motherfarkers, we're food.
 
2013-03-08 02:05:00 PM

JesseL: Glitchwerks: Yogimus: Are you aware that wolves eat things OTHER than deer as well?

Let me guess, a wolf ate your baby?

If wolves lost their aversion to people enough that they were willing to roam the burbs killing deer, you can bet that they would have no problem with going after people too.


A documentary on the Roman Coliseum said wild cats had to be trained to kill and eat humans. I called out an Elvis "bullshiat" from my recliner. I used to go to the local zoo and watch the big cats watch the littlest children. Those cats used to charge the glass at the littlest tykes all the time. As I was porky fat, I wasn't worried.
 
2013-03-08 02:08:44 PM
man kills predator population to be safe and to protect their livestock
man kills deer for food
gentle intellectuals ban hunting, to save the pretty deer
deer populations explode
deer begin moving into populated areas for food
deer share their diseases/ticks with livestock
gentle intellectuals argue vigorously to keep deer from being culled
gentle intellectuals get into car wrecks and injuries becase they hit the deer
men are called back in to kill the deer for safety and food
 
2013-03-08 02:10:10 PM
Forest rats be tasty. Also, for those interested in bow hunting, please learn to shoot really well before going hunting. Lost count on the number of deer I've come across with an arrow sticking out of their rump.
 
2013-03-08 02:17:37 PM
It is almost as if there is a whole industry dependent on the raising, herding, and processing of cows...  generally in the same areas that wolves are released in.
 
2013-03-08 02:20:11 PM

Yogimus: Glitchwerks: J. Frank Parnell: Stupid nature needs us to regulate things for it.

Hunters are doing the deer a favor, really.

Nature had a great way of regulating itself until humans intervened.

[naturalunseenhazards.files.wordpress.com image 850x509]

Things thgat eat people tend to not last long

4.bp.blogspot.com

You talking to me?  Are you talking TO ME?
 
2013-03-08 02:29:16 PM
Happy Hours:

Sadly, I've witnessed development devastate prairie dog habitat near me and I haven't seen a hawk in my neighborhood since. I guess I shouldn't mourn the loss of prairie dogs since they're flea-ridden carriers of the plague, but I do miss the hawks.

Law of unintended consequences... Here's a NSCS, B:

I wouldn't have known this except for visiting a hippy-dippy place that contributes to this cause, but there was a HUGE dieoff, as in extinction level of vultures in northern India and Nepal, all because of a cheap veterinary drug called Diclofenac.

Farmer Shresna's water buffalo is ailing, he gives said buffalo $0.20 worth of the drug.

Buffalo dies anyway.

100 vultures feast on the carcass, (they're not known for dining alone) and promptly drop dead.

The top-level scavenger is gone. Something moves in to fill that void, and the next in line is dogs.

Dog population goes ker-plooey, and so do feral dog pack attacks and rabies.

India evidently pays billions of dollars to deal with the problem.

/ but that's the beauty of the plan. In the winter, the apes freeze.
// has a family of foxes on his property, and am very cool with that.
 
2013-03-08 02:30:05 PM
As a son of a farmer who could, on a yearly basis, get damage permits from the Ohio Department of Nautral Resource that allowed us to hunt:

Out of season
At night
With a spotlight
And a high powered rifle (illegal during deer season)

And the only stipulation was that all antlers be turned into the ODNR (which we didn't shoot the bucks, left them for season)....

I have seen the explosion issue first hand.  When you have 300 acres of corn (which you use to feed the hogs all year), and a good bit of that is ate by deer, then you have an issue.

We of course gave the carcasses to either neighbors or processors who would donate to local food pantries.

/the worst year, we got 32 permits
//could also let others hunt with them on our land provided we got the OK from the ODNR
///up to about 15 deer and $15,000 worth of vehicle damages since I have started driving with a license...15 years ago
 
2013-03-08 02:34:41 PM
I don't believe I'd ever seen the term "urbanized suburban areas" before this article.
 
2013-03-08 02:35:25 PM
Oi! Just realized no one posted this yet.

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2013-03-08 02:35:57 PM

Ow! That was my feelings!: Forest rats be tasty. Also, for those interested in bow hunting, please learn to shoot really well before going hunting. Lost count on the number of deer I've come across with an arrow sticking out of their rump.


Just in case it may violate Fark's TOS (I'm really not sure, most aren't actually dead) I won't post any pictures but just do a GIS for "goose arrow".

You'll see pictures of geese with arrows going through their bodies, necks and heads.

And this is why if I would never even consider shooting an animal with a bow. I'm not against hunting and I'm not against killing animals for food but I am against animal cruelty.

If you can stick and arrow through a goose's head or neck and it can still swim or fly (as the pictures demonstrate) then it's got to be even harder to actually kill a deer with an arrow.
 
2013-03-08 02:40:16 PM
 
2013-03-08 02:41:01 PM

Ow! That was my feelings!: Louis CK hates deer


Oh! NSFW language.
 
2013-03-08 02:43:38 PM

SnarfVader: SkeletorUpInHere: SnarfVader: hardinparamedic: So what you're saying is that Amuricca now has a plauge of Sharia-law following deer willing to blow themselves up to appease Bambi, and recieve their 72 Does in Heaven?

Doe!
[i212.photobucket.com image 600x600]

Doe!

Doh!

Only cause I'm a simpsons fan.

Psst... I knew it was Doh!



The scene in question was where Homer hit a statue of a deer and said his familiar phrase.
Marge follow with "a deer"
Lisa, "a female deer"

So in this case, he may actually have said, "Doe!"
 
2013-03-08 02:48:59 PM
I don't remember exactly how this story goes, but I will try to relate it as best I can.  Forgive me if any part of it is innaccurate...

In Yellowstone National Park, they attempted to create a wildlife preserve by fencing off a section of the park.  None of the animals could move about as normal.  Before long, the predators ate all the game, then they ended up dieing of starvation.

This is what happens when humans try to interfere with nature, even with the best intentions.
 
2013-03-08 02:50:20 PM
Yeah; there is a delicate balance between beautiful woodland creature and harmful pest. When deer are eating Aunt Be's blue ribbon winnin celery; then it's time for some deer to die.

/ in a world without guns; the deer would over-run citys
 
2013-03-08 03:03:11 PM
durbnpoisn:

I don't remember exactly how this story goes, but I will try to relate it as best I can. Forgive me if any part of it is innaccurate...

In Yellowstone National Park, they attempted to create a wildlife preserve by fencing off a section of the park. None of the animals could move about as normal. Before long, the predators ate all the game, then they ended up dieing of starvation.

This is what happens when humans try to interfere with nature, even with the best intentions.


Well, there *is* a science to it. Unfortunately there is also a politics to it. One of the more absurd examples was Sarah Palin speaking on the Endangered Species act.

Whether she was right or wrong on the science, this was a politi-celeb influencing the discussion. Yellowstone in particular has been blown around on political winds pretty often because it's so visible.

People can do stuff with the best information and the best intentions, and the dumbest actual *implementation* will be voted into law by people 2000 miles away.
 
2013-03-08 03:03:40 PM

Frankenstorm: Oh, the exploding deer of the night
Explode for us, for we need light
For in the darkness, it is a fright
Explode for us deer, to give us sight


Beware my power green lanterns light.

www.comicmix.com
 
2013-03-08 03:11:52 PM

Happy Hours: Ow! That was my feelings!: Forest rats be tasty. Also, for those interested in bow hunting, please learn to shoot really well before going hunting. Lost count on the number of deer I've come across with an arrow sticking out of their rump.

Just in case it may violate Fark's TOS (I'm really not sure, most aren't actually dead) I won't post any pictures but just do a GIS for "goose arrow".

You'll see pictures of geese with arrows going through their bodies, necks and heads.

And this is why if I would never even consider shooting an animal with a bow. I'm not against hunting and I'm not against killing animals for food but I am against animal cruelty.

If you can stick and arrow through a goose's head or neck and it can still swim or fly (as the pictures demonstrate) then it's got to be even harder to actually kill a deer with an arrow.


I can guarantee you that those birds were shot with arrows tipped with field (target) points rather than broadheads appropriate to hunting. They weren't shot by hunters, they were shot by jackasses who happened to have a bow.

It's akin to using full metal jacket bullets when hunting with a rifle rather than expanding bullets.

Shoot a goose with something like this and you'll have a very hard time ending up with a bird that's merely wounded. Killing a deer with an arrow is harder, but a good broadhead doesn't just poke a clean hole - they have several very large, razor sharp blades that make very big wound channels that bleed out quickly.
 
2013-03-08 03:28:36 PM

Frank N Stein: FARK rebel soldier: Frank N Stein: I need to take up archery. Hunting with a firearm is fun effective and all, but archery would be a good skill to learn fun.

Just understand you won't eat anything.

My hunting is usually of the upland or water foul verity. Bow hunting for that would be hard.


Not true.  Get some Snaro points and make flu-flu arrows, and practice on aerial targets.  

TheShavingofOccam123: JesseL: Glitchwerks: Yogimus: Are you aware that wolves eat things OTHER than deer as well?

Let me guess, a wolf ate your baby?

If wolves lost their aversion to people enough that they were willing to roam the burbs killing deer, you can bet that they would have no problem with going after people too.

A documentary on the Roman Coliseum said wild cats had to be trained to kill and eat humans. I called out an Elvis "bullshiat" from my recliner. I used to go to the local zoo and watch the big cats watch the littlest children. Those cats used to charge the glass at the littlest tykes all the time. As I was porky fat, I wasn't worried.


I noticed that too with the littlebopper at the zoo.  The big cats would zero-in on the small kids with laser-like focus and intensity.
 
2013-03-08 03:30:15 PM
Speaking of which, does anyone have a recommendation for a crossbow that will quickly and humanely take out a deer ~50 yards away?

My grand idea that probably doesn't take into the way deer think is to take maybe three does from my a year from my porch to keep the freezer full but not so much I scare the other 50+ of the fall herd away.
 
2013-03-08 03:37:05 PM

maxheck: Speaking of which, does anyone have a recommendation for a crossbow that will quickly and humanely take out a deer ~50 yards away?


Yes, the one you practice with out to 50 yards or so.

Just use *GOOD*, non-mechanical cut-on-contact broadheads that are *SHARP*.  I like Wensel Woodsman heads, but I use a bow, not a crossbow (principle is the same, though).

Make them as sharp as you possibly can.  If they won't take the hair off your arm or leg easily, they ain't sharp enough.

That's the most important part of the equation.  Bows and crossbows aren't like guns, they kill not through speed or kinetic energy, but more like a knife:  A sharp knife pushed in slowly will kill just as surely as a 300 fps arrow with a good broadhead.
 
2013-03-08 03:42:55 PM
dittybopper:

maxheck: Speaking of which, does anyone have a recommendation for a crossbow that will quickly and humanely take out a deer ~50 yards away?

Yes, the one you practice with out to 50 yards or so.


Ok. THAT part I assume for any tool. I'll research the names you gave though, and thanks.

I did kill a deer with a knife once, but I did a bad job of it. It all ended up the same for the deer of course, but it's not something I'd repeat if I could help it. Point taken about how arrows differ from shotguns.
 
2013-03-08 03:44:11 PM

JesseL: Happy Hours: Ow! That was my feelings!: Forest rats be tasty. Also, for those interested in bow hunting, please learn to shoot really well before going hunting. Lost count on the number of deer I've come across with an arrow sticking out of their rump.

Just in case it may violate Fark's TOS (I'm really not sure, most aren't actually dead) I won't post any pictures but just do a GIS for "goose arrow".

You'll see pictures of geese with arrows going through their bodies, necks and heads.

And this is why if I would never even consider shooting an animal with a bow. I'm not against hunting and I'm not against killing animals for food but I am against animal cruelty.

If you can stick and arrow through a goose's head or neck and it can still swim or fly (as the pictures demonstrate) then it's got to be even harder to actually kill a deer with an arrow.

I can guarantee you that those birds were shot with arrows tipped with field (target) points rather than broadheads appropriate to hunting. They weren't shot by hunters, they were shot by jackasses who happened to have a bow.

It's akin to using full metal jacket bullets when hunting with a rifle rather than expanding bullets.

Shoot a goose with something like this and you'll have a very hard time ending up with a bird that's merely wounded. Killing a deer with an arrow is harder, but a good broadhead doesn't just poke a clean hole - they have several very large, razor sharp blades that make very big wound channels that bleed out quickly.


That makes sense I'm still probably not good enough to hunt game with a bow - although if I were shooting geese I'd probably just miss completely rather than wound it (probably depends on the distance). I've only ever shot at targets but I remember seeing broadheads at the archery store and those look like they could do some damage.

I probably didn't have an appropriate bow for hunting either. I gave it to my nephew but IIRC it only had a 35 pound pull. It was wooden and not a compound bow.  I used to shoot styrofoam targets with hay bales as a backstop with the back of my parents garage as an added backstop when I was younger...and I made sure the dog wasn't running around in the front of the target.

Maybe I should get back into it. I could probably set up an archery range in my basement. I've still got a handheld (pistol-grip) crossbow somewhere.
 
2013-03-08 04:04:51 PM

Enemabag Jones: Would this not be fun.  Hit a deer in the right spot, it blows up.

I think this would expand the sport of hunting.  Just be careful it you get a dud.


Leave a dud deer where it lies!
 
2013-03-08 04:19:24 PM

dittybopper: Frank N Stein: I need to take up archery. Hunting with a firearm is fun and all, but archery would be a good skill to learn.

Yes, yes it is.


Only a long bow. fark that pussy-ass compound shiat.
 
2013-03-08 04:26:10 PM

Happy Hours: I'm still probably not good enough to hunt game with a bow


Nobody is until they practice.  A lot.
 
2013-03-08 04:29:30 PM

dittybopper: maxheck: Speaking of which, does anyone have a recommendation for a crossbow that will quickly and humanely take out a deer ~50 yards away?

Yes, the one you practice with out to 50 yards or so.

Just use *GOOD*, non-mechanical cut-on-contact broadheads that are *SHARP*.  I like Wensel Woodsman heads, but I use a bow, not a crossbow (principle is the same, though).

Make them as sharp as you possibly can.  If they won't take the hair off your arm or leg easily, they ain't sharp enough.

That's the most important part of the equation.  Bows and crossbows aren't like guns, they kill not through speed or kinetic energy, but more like a knife:  A sharp knife pushed in slowly will kill just as surely as a 300 fps arrow with a good broadhead.


Part of the reason I don't bowhunt is also a warning:

If I fall on a round of ammunition, no big deal usually. If I fall on a broadhead, I could bleed out before I could get help.

Might as well hold liquid fire in your hands.
 
2013-03-08 04:32:16 PM

Katolu: dittybopper: Frank N Stein: I need to take up archery. Hunting with a firearm is fun and all, but archery would be a good skill to learn.

Yes, yes it is.

Only a long bow. fark that pussy-ass compound shiat.


I don't need training wheels:

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Hell, I don't even need steel:

i48.tinypic.com
 
2013-03-08 04:34:09 PM

TheShavingofOccam123: Part of the reason I don't bowhunt is also a warning:

If I fall on a round of ammunition, no big deal usually. If I fall on a broadhead, I could bleed out before I could get help.

Might as well hold liquid fire in your hands.


Meh.  Make a broadhead cover out of leather that you take off when you aren't moving, and don't climb trees.
 
2013-03-08 04:45:14 PM
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2013-03-08 04:49:48 PM

dittybopper: Katolu: dittybopper: Frank N Stein: I need to take up archery. Hunting with a firearm is fun and all, but archery would be a good skill to learn.

Yes, yes it is.

Only a long bow. fark that pussy-ass compound shiat.

I don't need training wheels:

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Hell, I don't even need steel:

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I appreciate the perpendicular of the arrow point to the shaft. Have you ever seen this site. Some South African on how to make footed arrows. Simple and to the point.

http://www.africanarcher.com/footed.html
 
2013-03-08 04:54:42 PM

TheShavingofOccam123: dittybopper: Katolu: dittybopper: Frank N Stein: I need to take up archery. Hunting with a firearm is fun and all, but archery would be a good skill to learn.

Yes, yes it is.

Only a long bow. fark that pussy-ass compound shiat.

I don't need training wheels:

[img189.imageshack.us image 640x201]

Hell, I don't even need steel:

[i48.tinypic.com image 640x480]

I appreciate the perpendicular of the arrow point to the shaft. Have you ever seen this site. Some South African on how to make footed arrows. Simple and to the point.

http://www.africanarcher.com/footed.html


I've thought about footing arrows, but I tend to lose/break them fairly often, so putting that much work into them isn't worth it to me.
 
2013-03-08 05:24:43 PM
Wouldn't be an issue if people had just left their predators and the land alone... there are plenty of other things that EAT deer and keep their numbers down, you know. It's how the system works.
 
2013-03-08 05:31:36 PM

rewind2846: Wouldn't be an issue if people had just left their predators and the land alone... there are plenty of other things that EAT deer and keep their numbers down, you know. It's how the system works.


Sounds great in theory, just not practical in modern times.
 
2013-03-08 05:38:20 PM
2 words.
Dear.  Body.  Armor.
 
2013-03-08 05:53:44 PM
What opening day might look like:


www.bloomfieldarchers.com
 
2013-03-08 05:56:55 PM
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2013-03-08 06:15:21 PM
As a guy who doesn't hunt deer but has hit two and had more than several near misses, I'm OK with this.  Most bow hunters are actual sportsmen, whereas a lot of rifle hunters are just scary motherfrarkers who I wouldn't let in my woods.  Oh, and large dogs who wipe out the front of vehicles too.  If they're in the middle of the highway, they should be fair game.
 
2013-03-08 06:18:26 PM

Glitchwerks: Nature had a great way of regulating itself until humans intervened.


Being torn apart and eaten alive seems somehow worse than being shot.
 
2013-03-08 06:37:44 PM

rewind2846: Wouldn't be an issue if people had just left their predators and the land alone... there are plenty of other things that EAT deer and keep their numbers down, you know. It's how the system works.


Is there a problem with people killing and eating deer?
 
2013-03-08 07:14:00 PM

JesseL: rewind2846: Wouldn't be an issue if people had just left their predators and the land alone... there are plenty of other things that EAT deer and keep their numbers down, you know. It's how the system works.

Is there a problem with people killing and eating deer?


Only if you don't spice it and cook it correctly.
 
2013-03-08 07:21:08 PM

rewind2846: Wouldn't be an issue if people had just left their predators and the land alone..


Some predators don't do very well next to high human populations. And if you want to leave the 'land alone' go ahead and off yourself now.

It takes land to provide your water, food, and all material goods.
 
2013-03-08 08:27:46 PM

JesseL: rewind2846: Wouldn't be an issue if people had just left their predators and the land alone... there are plenty of other things that EAT deer and keep their numbers down, you know. It's how the system works.

Is there a problem with people killing and eating deer?


I started hunting deer two years ago and so far the only problem is their powers of invisibility.
 
2013-03-08 08:39:28 PM

J. Frank Parnell: Stupid nature needs us to regulate things for it.

Hunters are doing the deer a favor, really.


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If we don't kill 'em, they'll die.
 
2013-03-08 09:12:13 PM
 
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