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(WREG Memphis)   For the record, filing fraudulent papers and pretending banks aren't real will not give you the right to squat in a $3 million house, nor will it let you run over police officers, Miss Soverign Citizen   (wreg.com) divider line 169
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2013-03-08 01:58:13 PM

Raithun: Glockenspiel Hero: Wait, a black female sovereign citizen?  My head assplode.

Let me just remind you that Curtis Got Slapped by a White Teacher.


Whatever happened to her?  Is the kid as psycho as she is yet?

My sympathy goes out to that child.
 
2013-03-08 02:04:41 PM
ursomniac: I'm still of the opinion that we should actually GIVE these people their own little micro-country, and treat it as a "Truman Show"-like reality series.   Let them have their Tea Party utopia as long as the rest of us get to watch as a lesson as to why living in a community comes with fundamental costs.   Hell, the side betting ALONE could be interesting.

I know just the place.
 
2013-03-08 02:19:37 PM

sno man: Bondith: Russad: Bungles: Wait, a bail bond for non-violent squatting that's 25 times the amount than Pistorius got for shooting his girlfriend in the head?

Aren't they based on flight risk?

I get the impression that someone who thinks they are not subject to the laws is probably a pretty high risk.

And a guy with no legs is a low one?

I guess you missed the Olympics then?


Confucious say, man with no arms poor flight risk
 
2013-03-08 02:23:40 PM
kudayta:

And if you don't honor the social contract and act like an arrogant and ignorant douche? They lock you up. At gunpoint.

I'm not making a moral argument here, just an observation.


That's part of the contract.  Don't like it?  Move somewhere where the contract is not in effect.
 
2013-03-08 02:28:13 PM
Too bad they are nuts, they really aren't THAT wrong. I mean the basic concept of our government is that a few hundred years ago some guys wearing bad whigs got together and decided how I should live my life and I should be obedient to that why?
 
2013-03-08 02:38:39 PM

dukeblue219: ursomniac: Tea Party utopia

For what it's worth, the Sovereign Citizens are way out of the Tea Party's league. I like your Truman Show idea, but know that the Tea Party utopia would still have a functioning government, judicial system, municipal services, still have cops, and probably still have taxes too. The Sovereign Citizens are wayyyyy crazier, if you can believe it.


True.  I didn't mean to conflate the two so sloppily.

But, like Disney World areas we can have as many of these as we want!   Come see Sovereign Land, then board the Tea Party Express to watch the Tea Party-ers in action!

And - while we're at it we can build Randville: the Libertarian paradise, Ultra-Liberal World, Jesusburgh,  Xenuplatz, etc.

It's a win-win.   On the (off-)chance that any of their fundamentalist (small 'f') philosophies show unmitigated success, then we can all benefit from adopting them!     Meanwhile we can watch to see if and how quickly their micro-societies implode.
 
2013-03-08 02:46:49 PM
Here you go Sovereign Citizens; an unclaimed part of the world to build you utopia in. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marie_Byrd_Land  . Take an extra sweater.
 
2013-03-08 03:25:40 PM

Ned Stark: cefm: Stealing and lying and harming others =/= "sovereign".

You know what happens to "sovereign" nations that do the same thing?  They get bombed.  Why would an individual think they would get off better?

I haven't noticed any bombs falling anywhere an my county does that kinda thing all the time.


Well, you will as soon as we figure out how to get to Westeros, dammit!
 
2013-03-08 03:56:31 PM

EWreckedSean: Too bad they are nuts, they really aren't THAT wrong. I mean the basic concept of our government is that a few hundred years ago some guys wearing bad whigs got together and decided how I should live my life and I should be obedient to that why?


because you lived the first part of your life, when you were helpless and unable to fend for yourself as the beneficiary of that system which taught you to read and write and reason, protected the place your live from disaster and human malice and even ensured your primary care givers treated you decently.  It's the height of ingratitude to have been the recipent of so much help and then when it's your turn to perpetuate that society and give back say "Fark you I'm a self made man"
 
2013-03-08 04:29:27 PM

Maestro1701: Bungles: Wait, a bail bond for non-violent squatting that's 25 times the amount than Pistorius got for shooting his girlfriend in the head?

In a completely different country? With their own court system and everything?


Stop with the facts!
 
2013-03-08 04:33:14 PM
pute kisses like a man:

/ I'm a lawyer.


You are what's keeping the man down.....
 
2013-03-08 04:41:44 PM
162 comments and NO reference to Peteroria.  Shocked I say, outraged and shocked and disappoint.  Don't forget disappoint.
 
2013-03-08 04:46:49 PM

Bungles: Wait, a bail bond for non-violent squatting that's 25 times the amount than Pistorius got for shooting his girlfriend in the head?


Bail is  supposed to ensure you return to court.  The severity of the charges is only one of several considerations in setting bail.  This babe is a bigger flight risk than Pistorius.

Also, different countries.
 
2013-03-08 05:07:31 PM

Gunny Walker: noitsnot: You can't eat from those garbage cans - that's stealing.

That can't be right. Garbage is not private property when put out for disposal. Maybe if it's still inside the building or a fence, but when it's on the curb, it's free for the taking.


Unless it's in a secured container.  You have the right to control who can take your garbage.  Couple of examples:

1. Restaurants that put used grease out for pickup by biodiesel refiners.

2. That uptight California town whose residents voted for  bear-proof dumpsters to prevent the homeless from picking through their trash.
 
KIA
2013-03-08 05:17:39 PM

Magorn: EWreckedSean: Too bad they are nuts, they really aren't THAT wrong. I mean the basic concept of our government is that a few hundred years ago some guys wearing bad whigs got together and decided how I should live my life and I should be obedient to that why?

because you lived the first part of your life, when you were helpless and unable to fend for yourself as the beneficiary of that system which taught you to read and write and reason, protected the place your live from disaster and human malice and even ensured your primary care givers treated you decently.  It's the height of ingratitude to have been the recipent of so much help and then when it's your turn to perpetuate that society and give back say "Fark you I'm a self made man"


Please don't whip this poor old soul, but that shore do sound like ole massa when he say he clothe us and feed us so we gotta do what he say and do his work.
 
2013-03-08 11:46:07 PM

Free Radical: So Sovereign Citizens think they can just steal shiat?


3.bp.blogspot.com

Sovereign thinks he can do whatever the hell he wants, including taking on the Citadel.
 
2013-03-08 11:48:33 PM

JohnCarter: A more detailed article - They claim to be Moorish American Nationals

Good times as SWAT was involved



heystupid.files.wordpress.com

What's a Moorish American National?
 
2013-03-11 01:19:45 PM

BATMANATEE: Here you go Sovereign Citizens; an unclaimed part of the world to build you utopia in. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marie_Byrd_Land  . Take an extra sweater.


Mmm as an Australian I have a few qualms about our little slice of that continent, why does Russia seem to be there (when they are at the 'top' of the world and I am pretty sure Australia hasn't staked any of the Artic) and what the fark Italy even has taken a nibble.
 
2013-03-11 01:24:48 PM

KIA: Magorn: EWreckedSean: Too bad they are nuts, they really aren't THAT wrong. I mean the basic concept of our government is that a few hundred years ago some guys wearing bad whigs got together and decided how I should live my life and I should be obedient to that why?

because you lived the first part of your life, when you were helpless and unable to fend for yourself as the beneficiary of that system which taught you to read and write and reason, protected the place your live from disaster and human malice and even ensured your primary care givers treated you decently.  It's the height of ingratitude to have been the recipent of so much help and then when it's your turn to perpetuate that society and give back say "Fark you I'm a self made man"

Please don't whip this poor old soul, but that shore do sound like ole massa when he say he clothe us and feed us so we gotta do what he say and do his work.


We have a few 'sovereign types' in Australia.

What bugs me is that the govt doesn't just accept their claim and then place a border guard (or even just a great big fence and trench) on the road leading to the property and if they ever leave we arrest them as illegal immigrants.
 
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