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(Reuters)   Fukushima tsunami survivors call on exorcists to banish demons. "People were killed in so many different ways during the disaster and they were left like that in limbo. So it takes a heavy toll on us, we see them as they were when they died"   (reuters.com) divider line 46
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2013-03-08 07:40:09 AM
Isn't banishing the same thing as killing them?  So they're going to deal with all those people killed by killing their spirits?
 
2013-03-08 07:50:52 AM
Doing a job you don't love, that has no meaning to you, doing those things you don't enjoy, over and over again.

That's the best way to kill spirit
 
2013-03-08 07:53:51 AM
You know who else they tried to kill the spirit of??

www.samefacts.com
 
2013-03-08 07:56:36 AM

FullMetalPanda: Isn't banishing the same thing as killing them?  So they're going to deal with all those people killed by killing their spirits?


fitsnews.com
 
2013-03-08 07:58:06 AM
Don't worry the Mormons will baptize them
 
2013-03-08 08:00:06 AM

FullMetalPanda: Isn't banishing the same thing as killing them?


wakingideas.com

DEATH BY BANISHING
 
2013-03-08 08:01:40 AM
Looks like the radiation is picking up around there.
 
2013-03-08 08:01:58 AM
"we see them as they were when they died"

Yeah, see, those aren't 'spirits', those are corpses.  Bury your dead already.
 
2013-03-08 08:03:54 AM
This is a job for Devil Hunter Yohko, Ultraman, or possibly the Inachu Ping-Pong Club.
 
2013-03-08 08:14:31 AM
So silly, the Catholic church did away with limbo!
 
2013-03-08 08:16:31 AM
You cannot do that, they will coalesce together eventually breeding a giant monster, and last I checked I don't remember you having Ultraman anytime recently.
 
2013-03-08 08:47:09 AM
"...a society wary of admitting to mental problems..

Where are mental problems embraced?
 
2013-03-08 08:54:10 AM
pic of what what exorcist banishing spirits after tsunami might look like

3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-03-08 09:04:08 AM
 
2013-03-08 09:12:43 AM
My wife is going to a "medium party" in a couple of weeks.  This person charges $75 a person to run the show.

I am SO in the wrong business.  This asshole is going to charge all of these women a total of about $1000 for one night of, "I see dead people".  That's a good farking business right there.

For the record, we were originally supposed to host the event in our house.  So my wife wouldn't have to pay the $75.  When she found out she had to pay anyway, she said, "F that.  I'm not hosting then."  She's still going to wherever it's hosted.  We will be having words about this.
 
2013-03-08 09:29:19 AM

durbnpoisn: My wife is going to a "medium party" in a couple of weeks. This person charges $75 a person to run the show.


I heard about that woman. She's really short, like that "medium" in  Poltergeist, right? Are you aware she got arrested for fraud in connection with these seances? Somehow, she escaped. The next day, the headlines all read: SMALL MEDIUM AT LARGE.
 
2013-03-08 09:30:41 AM
Poor sunzabiatches, PTSD at it's finest.
 
2013-03-08 09:31:35 AM
Because real life is just like in the Grudge

/Japanese ghost stories are the scariest still though
 
2013-03-08 09:46:44 AM
Send in the T.A.P.S. (Ghosthunters) team.
I want proof.
 
2013-03-08 09:49:28 AM

Krusty's Wench: Send in the T.A.P.S. (Ghosthunters) team.
I want proof.


Better yet, get the Ghost Bros in there so they can verbally abuse them.
 
2013-03-08 09:51:45 AM
This will be the inspiration for even more anime.
 
2013-03-08 10:02:09 AM
Neighbor's kid was afraid of ghosts.
Till I explained we all die.
And when you die, you get to be a ghost.
(if they are real)
So you can go all power rangers on their asses.
So why worry about it?

If worked for him.
/ymmv
 
2013-03-08 10:06:41 AM

FullMetalPanda: Isn't banishing the same thing as killing them?


No, it isn't. Mahayana Buddhism as it is practiced alongside Shinto has multiple levels of existence or dharma-realms. The problem is not that the spirits exist, but that they are not where they are supposed to be for the state that they are in. The karmic effects of mass traumatic death is understood to cause a variety of problems for recently deceased. Various devotional and technical practices in Japanese Buddhism and Shinto exist for exorcising metaphysical "pollution." (stuff out of place) Exorcism is a technical term here and means "purification." Think of it as enhancing auspiciousness and mitigating unfavorability by picking up clutter and vacuuming around the house, except what is dealt with are metaphysical karmic waves of cause and effect. If you project the Western meaning of exorcism as in Catholicism here you'll miss the point.
 
2013-03-08 10:09:32 AM

durbnpoisn: My wife is going to a "medium party" in a couple of weeks.


This is relevant to my academic interests. If you don't mind--if you know a website or address for this business feel free to email it to me: EIP.
 
2013-03-08 10:13:29 AM

Subdue their bellies: This is a job for Devil Hunter Yohko, Ultraman, or possibly the Inachu Ping-Pong Club.


What about Superman?
 
2013-03-08 10:13:46 AM

Krusty's Wench: Send in the T.A.P.S. (Ghosthunters) team.
I want proof.


Send in the Ghostfacers!
 
2013-03-08 10:14:24 AM
/salt and burn 'em
 
2013-03-08 10:23:16 AM

FullMetalPanda: Isn't banishing the same thing as killing them?  So they're going to deal with all those people killed by killing their spirits?


Depends on the method.   Some types of banishing will push the spirit to an afterlife--probably not the correct afterlife as this can easily skip the judgement phase.   Some types will push the spirit out of the village/city and make it someone else's problem.   A spirit can be destroyed, but that is karmicaly very bad--if you use a magic founded in ancestor worship.   If you're a daoist, you can destroy spirits at whim (fark em!), unless they're hot chicks in love, then you have to risk your life to save them against all reason, even destroying unique holy relics of great power in the process.   Of course different metaphysics apply to different religions and magikal systems, so there's sort of a 'rock paper scissors spock ghidorah' hierarchy at play that makes it all very awkward.

Generally local traditions work for local spirits, but in this 21st century world of massive cultural cross pollenation--whacky things happen, and the your  local shaman may be ill equipped to handle a foreign ghost (with foreign metaphysics).

In areas hit by Tsunamis, ancient sea spirits that have been sleeping since the water receded can be awakened, and they are usually cranky about the water receding so quickly.   A little bit of TLC will generally put these back to rest, but what TLC is to a pre-human water spirit is sometimes difficult to determine--they don't speak the tongues of man.   These things can generally not be banished, as they are part of the world.   When in doubt--flee screaming like a little girl.

/has watched a lot of anime and asian cinema to come up with this well researched thought provoking answer
 
2013-03-08 10:24:08 AM

rev. dave: This will be the inspiration for even more anime.


i.imgur.comi.imgur.com

Nah. I'm sure Cherry and Sakura will take care of it.
 
2013-03-08 10:24:26 AM
I thought a study was conducted that theorized the more advanced a society is the less it believes in the supernatural. Ironic that you see the japanese are so 'spiritual'.. aren't they like the most advanced society on Earth?
Even from a religious standpoint shinto buddhism for the most part are not that big on demons, ghosts, magic, exorcisms etc... at least when compared to those religions that are more inline with the Abrahamic beliefs.
 
2013-03-08 10:24:39 AM

dryknife: "...a society wary of admitting to mental problems..

Where are mental problems embraced?


Los Angeles
 
2013-03-08 10:25:47 AM

Rhypskallion: A spirit can be destroyed, but that is karmicaly very bad--


Could even lead to tentacle porn.
 
2013-03-08 10:34:02 AM
Are these spirits Crossing Midnight?
 
2013-03-08 10:44:00 AM

No Time To Explain: Because real life is just like in the Grudge

/Japanese ghost stories are the scariest still though


Seriously.

upload.wikimedia.org
Gashadokuro, a giant skeleton monster made of the bones of people who died from starvation. They bite your head off when you're alone, according to the Wiki article. I think I came across this when the image was featured on the main page a few months ago.

Another 'wtf, Japan?'
 
2013-03-08 10:49:10 AM

SuperNinjaToad: Even from a religious standpoint shinto buddhism for the most part are not that big on demons, ghosts, magic, exorcisms


i.imgur.com

O'RLY? This is from the main worship hall of a Vietnamese Buddhist temple in Des Moines, IA. Different karmic realms of existence (including demons and ghosts) are very much a part of Buddhism. Harae (Shinto exorcism) is one of the four essential elements in any Shinto ceremony. It has to happen before any major offering or ceremony to the Kami. "Magic" is often a political term anyway for whatever doesn't count in someone's mind as "religion." Both are ritual practices concerned with the management of power, both physical and metaphysical.
 
2013-03-08 10:50:44 AM
Zeno-25:  Gashadokuro, a giant skeleton monster made of the bones of people who died from starvation. They bite your head off when you're alone, according to the Wiki article. I think I came across this when the image was featured on the main page a few months ago.

Another 'wtf, Japan?'


===

I would suggest a better summation would be "KARMA IS A biatch."
 
2013-03-08 10:52:32 AM
Anime can be beaten out of people.
 
2013-03-08 10:59:27 AM
Fundie nonsense.
 
2013-03-08 12:03:43 PM

Somacandra: FullMetalPanda: Isn't banishing the same thing as killing them?

No, it isn't. Mahayana Buddhism as it is practiced alongside Shinto has multiple levels of existence or dharma-realms. The problem is not that the spirits exist, but that they are not where they are supposed to be for the state that they are in. The karmic effects of mass traumatic death is understood to cause a variety of problems for recently deceased. Various devotional and technical practices in Japanese Buddhism and Shinto exist for exorcising metaphysical "pollution." (stuff out of place) Exorcism is a technical term here and means "purification." Think of it as enhancing auspiciousness and mitigating unfavorability by picking up clutter and vacuuming around the house, except what is dealt with are metaphysical karmic waves of cause and effect. If you project the Western meaning of exorcism as in Catholicism here you'll miss the point.


Very good explanation.
Cultural differences and perspectives, etc.
Sudden, violent deaths leave the souls stranded sometimes.
Americans are inclined to try to medicate anyone who feels or understands this because it frightens them.
 
2013-03-08 12:40:13 PM

dryknife: "...a society wary of admitting to mental problems..

Where are mental problems embraced?


Kentucky.
 
2013-03-08 01:43:17 PM
In other news, cultures are different
 
2013-03-08 03:42:20 PM
I'm an atheist. I don't believe in anything supernatural.

However, as mythologies go, I'm rather fond of various oriental myths.

That said, I'm on the fence about this article. The skeptic in me cries bullshiat, but the mythology buff in me (and the teeny tiny part of me that wants magic to be real) is intrigued.
 
2013-03-08 05:17:20 PM

Somacandra: rev. dave: This will be the inspiration for even more anime.

Nah. I'm sure Cherry and Sakura will take care of it.


I've seen those two in action.  They're defiantly going to need back-up.
i50.tinypic.com
farm6.staticflickr.com
 
2013-03-08 05:25:41 PM

Zeno-25: No Time To Explain: Because real life is just like in the Grudge

/Japanese ghost stories are the scariest still though

Seriously.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 684x330]
Gashadokuro, a giant skeleton monster made of the bones of people who died from starvation. They bite your head off when you're alone, according to the Wiki article. I think I came across this when the image was featured on the main page a few months ago.

Another 'wtf, Japan?'


http://comic.naver.com/webtoon/detail.nhn?titleId=350217&no=20&weekd ay =tue
There was a translation of the story, but I can't find it at the moment but the images are good enough to get the point across.
Basically the woman walks along and thinks someone is following her.  She sees someone who apparently fell from the top of the building asking if she saw her shoe.  She points over there (not able to speak) and the person goes away.
 
2013-03-08 05:49:39 PM

TheGogmagog: Zeno-25: No Time To Explain: Because real life is just like in the Grudge

/Japanese ghost stories are the scariest still though

Seriously.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 684x330]
Gashadokuro, a giant skeleton monster made of the bones of people who died from starvation. They bite your head off when you're alone, according to the Wiki article. I think I came across this when the image was featured on the main page a few months ago.

Another 'wtf, Japan?'

http://comic.naver.com/webtoon/detail.nhn?titleId=350217&no=20&weekd ay =tue
There was a translation of the story, but I can't find it at the moment but the images are good enough to get the point across.
Basically the woman walks along and thinks someone is following her.  She sees someone who apparently fell from the top of the building asking if she saw her shoe.  She points over there (not able to speak) and the person goes away.


Proper translation found.
2011 Mystery Sketch Bong-Cheon-Dong Ghost (Korean)
The story is based on true personal accounts.
It was probably around 11:20 at night. I was heading home after long, tiring night-study sessions. But I didn't see anybody around that day, which was weird, since the apartment complex is pretty big and I usually see a lot of people even at night.
Anyways, I was a little scared so I was just walking while looking down on the ground,
when I saw a shadow stretching towards me. Even though there had been no one around just a moment ago.
When I looked up..
I saw a woman walking in front of me. But it just didn't look right.
I could say she looked slightly indisposed.. She was limping pretty bad.
She was walking very slow, and I soon caught up with her. I was able to see her even better up close.
She was wearing dirty pink pajamas.. and it looked like every joint in her body was twisted. Her hair was a mess and sticking out in every direction.
It seemed really weird, so I stopped walking.
I felt like I shouldn't get any closer to her, and I didn't have the guts to pass by her.
They say when you're really surprised, you can't even scream. I couldn't move, and just froze there.
"Where's my baby?"
Her question made my thoughts race..
I don't even know why I did it then.. And it still scares me.
I pointed as far as I could and answered.. "O.. over there."
I just wanted her to get away from me.
She limped towards the direction I pointed to..
And I couldn't see her anymore.
I didn't want to risk running into her again, so I tried to turn around quickly and leave the apartment complex.
I couldn't think of anything but to get to some place where there'd be people around.
Then
"She wasn't there!"
I don't remember anything afterwards. I heard that my neighbor found me passed out on the ground and took me home.
In 2007, at an apartment in Boncheon-Dong, Gwna-Ak-Gu, Seoul, a 33-year-old woman jumped off the apartment and died on the spot. Jo, who was divorced due to her affair, had lost the custody of her daughter and decided to kill herself.
She was seen walking around the apartment complex many times after her suicide. She was barefoot and wore the pajamas she was wearing when she died; every joint in her body was twisted, and she was an awful sight.
 
2013-03-08 06:35:36 PM

dryknife: "...a society wary of admitting to mental problems..

Where are mental problems embraced?


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