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2013-03-07 08:37:38 PM  
I'm growing bored of this little crazy baby man. When can we replace him?
 
2013-03-07 08:37:57 PM  
Great. Now South Korea has to pay $1 per message to talk to them.
 
2013-03-07 08:49:33 PM  
They have internet access? They have electricity?
 
2013-03-07 08:51:02 PM  
So MASH is back on, then?
 
2013-03-07 08:55:39 PM  
$20 says if they go for a first strike 90% of their fixed artillery explodes trying to send off the first round.
 
2013-03-07 08:56:06 PM  
Take THAT, ModeratelyGoodbutDefinitelyNotBest Korea!
 
2013-03-07 08:56:14 PM  

namegoeshere: So MASH is back on, then?


I smell M.A.S.H. reunion.
 
2013-03-07 08:56:19 PM  
Ooooh, yay, another full-scale ground war the US is going to be in ... is this a repeat from the 1950s?
 
2013-03-07 08:56:22 PM  
China's little darlings
 
2013-03-07 08:56:52 PM  
Well.

Looks like the 2nd ID is going to have some fun tonight.
 
2013-03-07 08:56:54 PM  

namegoeshere: So MASH is back on, then?


We missed a golden opportunity for a 4077 headline reference.
 
2013-03-07 08:57:01 PM  
Un went full retard.

Never go full retard.
 
2013-03-07 08:57:23 PM  
Come at me bro. Seriously, come at me.
 
2013-03-07 08:57:48 PM  
That chubby little fella really needs attention.
 
2013-03-07 08:58:02 PM  

NewportBarGuy: $20 says if they go for a first strike 90% of their fixed artillery explodes trying to send off the first round.


No bet.
 
2013-03-07 08:58:16 PM  
To be fair, this does mean the South can kill North Korean leadership whenever they want since they are legally back to open war.
 
2013-03-07 08:58:19 PM  
So, where is that text-based animation about Seoul getting blowed up again?
 
2013-03-07 08:58:26 PM  
Somebody needs to wake up with Dennis Rodman's head in their bed.
 
2013-03-07 08:58:42 PM  

WTF Indeed: namegoeshere: So MASH is back on, then?

I smell M.A.S.H. reunion.


They're going to need a new Colonel Potter.

/sad
 
2013-03-07 08:58:43 PM  
Similarly I've declared war with Norway.  Norway has 5 minutes to change its name or I'm going to refuse to acknowledge the international boundaries of Norway and I'm going to publicly release some fairly damning information about one of Norway's city-level internal middle managers.
 
2013-03-07 08:58:46 PM  
OH shiat!  GRAB YOUR TINFOIL HATS!!!
 
2013-03-07 08:58:48 PM  

namegoeshere: So MASH is back on, then?


Suicide is painless fat punk leader.
 
2013-03-07 08:59:02 PM  
F*ck Un

/cut off the food
 
2013-03-07 08:59:03 PM  
N. Korea is like your bratty, insolent little cousin that you know you're gonna knock the crap out of some day.
 
2013-03-07 08:59:14 PM  
A dictatorial attention whore is still an attention whore.
 
2013-03-07 08:59:19 PM  
The entire world, including China, would squash NK if things got too out of hand and they know it.
 
2013-03-07 08:59:30 PM  
Way to go, Rodman.
 
2013-03-07 08:59:35 PM  
The food shortage must be pretty bad this time.
 
2013-03-07 08:59:41 PM  

DAMMIT, RODMAN!

 
2013-03-07 09:00:00 PM  
Now the question will be how China reacts. We already know China is pissed at North Korea, after all China helped write and voted for the recent set of sanctions. The smart move will be to wait until Kim Jong Un starts an attack. Although he is being aggressive, neither the US nor South Korea should fire the first shot.
 
2013-03-07 09:00:02 PM  

seadoo2006: Ooooh, yay, another full-scale ground war the US is going to be in ... is this a repeat from the 1950s?


Not hardly because China is not Best Korea's BFF anymore.
 
2013-03-07 09:00:04 PM  
This is precious.
 
2013-03-07 09:00:11 PM  
I told you so.
 
2013-03-07 09:00:17 PM  
This shiatty headline is what they went with?
 
2013-03-07 09:00:35 PM  
The pudgy un must think that this is just like call of Duty, or some other FPS game.

Fine, then.  Let's show him what happens when Spc. Ops lays waste to his team with a remote air strike, then camps his respawn point.
 
2013-03-07 09:00:47 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: F*ck Un

/cut off the food


The people will starve and Un will eat the poor kids.
 
2013-03-07 09:00:52 PM  
I'll just put the bag of popcorn outside and it'll cook all by itself
 
2013-03-07 09:01:09 PM  

Ukab the Great: Come at me bro. Seriously, come at me.


static.neatoshop.com
static.neatoshop.com
/hot
 
2013-03-07 09:01:22 PM  
beldar.blogs.com
 
2013-03-07 09:01:26 PM  
Good thing we got Gangnm Style before the nukes.
 
2013-03-07 09:01:40 PM  
Send back our ambassador freddyo.com
 
2013-03-07 09:01:50 PM  
This is what happens when a US Senator goes on TV saying it's illegal for the government to kill it's own citizens. He made us look weak.
 
2013-03-07 09:02:00 PM  
Black Eagle Reporting
 
2013-03-07 09:02:03 PM  

seadoo2006: Ooooh, yay, another full-scale ground war the US is going to be in ... is this a repeat from the 1950s?


My dad fought in the first Korean War so I bet I get a good job in the second one. You know, because I'm a legacy.
 
2013-03-07 09:02:04 PM  
Welp, if they nuke Seoul, I don't think anyone would keep the US from turning Best Korea into Second Best Korea.
 
2013-03-07 09:02:08 PM  
Firstly, cut all support for the north. ALL.
Second, demand that any future aid be requested for on their public radio and television.
Third, Sink all of their navy the second they get militant. ALL of it. to include civilian vessels.
 
2013-03-07 09:02:09 PM  
How far will they go if everyone just ignores everything they say?
 
2013-03-07 09:02:10 PM  
Does this mean Dennis Rodman gets the Presidential Medal of Freedom?
 
2013-03-07 09:02:11 PM  
Looks like the little tyke thinks he needs a military conflict to cement his power. We do need to wait for them to make the first move, so we have enough authority to completely wipe them out, instead of being stuck with half-measures
 
2013-03-07 09:02:12 PM  
Well, there's a DMZ for a reason.
 
2013-03-07 09:02:20 PM  
Wouldn't have happened if Bill Wennington or Luc Longley went. Just sayin'.
 
2013-03-07 09:02:22 PM  
Meh, unimpressed.
Kim should either invade something or shut the hell up about it.
 
2013-03-07 09:02:27 PM  
Thanks, Pyongyang Dennis.
 
2013-03-07 09:03:32 PM  

GAT_00: This shiatty headline is what they went with?


As opposed to the other, shiattier headlines?
 
2013-03-07 09:03:42 PM  
 
2013-03-07 09:03:48 PM  

davidphogan: Good thing we got Gangnm Style before the nukes.


The last international representation of Korean Culture, it will be enshrined in history forever
 
2013-03-07 09:03:58 PM  
teamboehner.com

Hopefully they destroy America so that Obama looks bad!
 
2013-03-07 09:04:01 PM  
Is this one of those things where he is trying to solidify support in the country by showing how much of a badass he is and how he won't take shiat from anyone?
Does this mean the military is getting uppity questioning if Kim 3 is really a good leader?
 
2013-03-07 09:04:08 PM  

WTF Indeed: To be fair, this does mean the South can kill North Korean leadership whenever they want since they are legally back to open war.


In that case if I were S Korea that Un would not last the night.
 
2013-03-07 09:04:15 PM  

make me some tea: GAT_00: This shiatty headline is what they went with?

As opposed to the other, shiattier headlines?


He's upset the headline didn't blame the GOP somehow.
 
2013-03-07 09:04:17 PM  
Must be a day that ends in y
 
2013-03-07 09:04:34 PM  
So did South Korea pick up the line to see if the signal was still there?
 
2013-03-07 09:04:39 PM  
does this mean the US can finally finish the war?
 
2013-03-07 09:04:42 PM  
"It notifies the South side that it will immediately cut off the North-South hotline,"

Guess Best Korea is having trouble paying the phone bill again.
 
2013-03-07 09:04:42 PM  

4.bp.blogspot.com
"RODMAN!"

 
2013-03-07 09:05:04 PM  
parting is such sweet sour. or nasty kim-chi farts. your choice, buddha boy

2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-03-07 09:05:37 PM  
www.abc.net.au
I'm pretty sure the exact translation is: "Dear Supreme Commander Comrade, please just let us die. We are out of potato."
 
2013-03-07 09:05:38 PM  
i'm SO glad we put most of our operational military in the middle east to protect Israel from the consequences of their own stupidity.  oooo!  plus the GOP slap fight over taxes that ended up with the sequester cuts and impacting military readiness.  awesome job guys!  thanks!
 
2013-03-07 09:05:43 PM  
Stir fry the dogs of war!
 
2013-03-07 09:05:43 PM  

Lost Thought 00: Looks like the little tyke thinks he needs a military conflict to cement his power. We do need to wait for them to make the first move, so we have enough authority to completely wipe them out, instead of being stuck with half-measures


No we don't.  It's back to an open state of warfare.  We can flatten it like a pancake with no further acts of provocation.  The only question is if we can strike hard and fast enough to prevent any retaliation.
 
2013-03-07 09:05:55 PM  
ahaaha looks like i have job security for the next year after all. thank you best, soon to be ashes, korea.
 
2013-03-07 09:06:11 PM  
Sounds like a job for 4/7 Cav!

Garry Owen!

I think you can win by throwing food at them.
 
2013-03-07 09:06:19 PM  

namegoeshere: MaudlinMutantMollusk: F*ck Un

/cut off the food

The people will starve and Un will eat the poor kids.


Well, the stock won't last long under that kind of demand

/We can wait 'em out
//China might get a teensy bit annoyed about all the refugees, though
///Seriously; China is really the key to resolving the issue once and for all
 
2013-03-07 09:06:41 PM  

WTF Indeed: make me some tea: GAT_00: This shiatty headline is what they went with?

As opposed to the other, shiattier headlines?

He's upset the headline didn't blame the GOP somehow.


lololololol
 
2013-03-07 09:06:49 PM  
On a more serious note, does it mean anything that China also voted to toughen sanctions against NK? Do they usually vote that way, or is this something new?
 
2013-03-07 09:06:52 PM  
www.globalpost.com

i0.kym-cdn.com
 
2013-03-07 09:07:09 PM  
Is it time for some landscaping around the "Dear Comrade's"  palace?

Maybe like a glass parking lot?

Seriously, though, we know where their good stuff is, and a few JDAMs would probably do the trick.
The worst part is that the citizens who worship this ninny are the ones who'll suffer.
 
2013-03-07 09:07:09 PM  
Bullshiat. Wag the dog.
 
2013-03-07 09:07:23 PM  

DeltaPunch: [4.bp.blogspot.com image 480x320]
"RODMAN!"


Ha, I looked at that and said "New Un!"

/s
 
2013-03-07 09:07:26 PM  
namtiti.free.fr
 
2013-03-07 09:07:31 PM  
Damn, they might actually believe they have a shot at this.

Echo chamber enough to make Cantor jealous.
 
2013-03-07 09:07:41 PM  
images.cheezburger.com


Do it, you won't.
Biatch.
 
2013-03-07 09:07:42 PM  

pippi longstocking: Bullshiat. Wag the dog.


so who benefits from this conspiracy of yours?
 
2013-03-07 09:07:51 PM  
You know what would solve this little crisis?

MOAR TAX CUTS!
 
2013-03-07 09:08:06 PM  
25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-03-07 09:08:08 PM  

WTF Indeed: To be fair, this does mean the South can kill North Korean leadership whenever they want since they are legally back to open war.


And since they've stated their intention to nuke the USA at their earliest opportunity shouldn't we just preemptively nuke the bejebus out of them?
 
2013-03-07 09:08:13 PM  
 Now you see, the changing of the worrd is inevitabre!
 
2013-03-07 09:08:15 PM  
Dear Afghanistan,

It was fun while it lasted, but we have an appointment on the other side of the world, so we really must be going.

L8rz,
USA
 
2013-03-07 09:08:22 PM  
So, answer me this: Has Best Korea significantly improved their rocket technology from what I can buy at the hobby shop, or are they still dropping ICBMs into the ocean 3 miles from launch?

If not, why not let the bastards starve until they run over the 38th Parallel or cross into China, in which case we/China/South Korea could just bomb the whole thing back to the stone age?
 
2013-03-07 09:08:29 PM  

Churchy LaFemme: You know what would solve this little crisis?

MOAR TAX CUTS!


but only for the top 1%.  tax cuts for the middle class make us fat, lazy and librul.
 
2013-03-07 09:08:33 PM  

SpdrJay: N. Korea is like your bratty, insolent little cousin that you know you're gonna knock the crap out of some day.


ll-media.tmz.com
 
2013-03-07 09:08:46 PM  

DeltaPunch: On a more serious note, does it mean anything that China also voted to toughen sanctions against NK? Do they usually vote that way, or is this something new?


It means China, for whatever reason, is less concerned than usual about a refugee rush
 
2013-03-07 09:08:50 PM  

Weaver95: i'm SO glad we put most of our operational military in the middle east to protect Israel from the consequences of their own stupidity.  oooo!  plus the GOP slap fight over taxes that ended up with the sequester cuts and impacting military readiness.  awesome job guys!  thanks!


I think at this point, it will take yet another "shiat getting real" moment to break the political blockades.
 
2013-03-07 09:08:51 PM  

Weaver95: pippi longstocking: Bullshiat. Wag the dog.

so who benefits from this conspiracy of yours?


Solyndra. Follow the money...
 
2013-03-07 09:09:24 PM  
North Korea is the Nicki Minaj of Koreas.
 
2013-03-07 09:09:26 PM  

MrHappyRotter: Norway has 5 minutes to change its name or I'm going to refuse to acknowledge the international boundaries of Norway and I'm going to publicly release some fairly damning information about one of Norway's city-level internal middle managers.


They need to rename themselves Norwegia.  Just get it over with already.
 
2013-03-07 09:09:32 PM  

Dr.Zom: seadoo2006: Ooooh, yay, another full-scale ground war the US is going to be in ... is this a repeat from the 1950s?

My dad fought in the first Korean War so I bet I get a good job in the second one. You know, because I'm a legacy.


Oooo... me too! I hadn't thought of that

/thanks!
 
2013-03-07 09:09:50 PM  
Deleted scene from Idiocracy:
"In 2013, the UN un-Un-ified North Korea, leading to the unification of Un-less Korea, unless the 6-way UN negotiations work towards Un's fortune unfortunately."
 
2013-03-07 09:09:56 PM  

Lost Thought 00: Looks like the little tyke thinks he needs a military conflict to cement his power. We do need to wait for them to make the first move, so we have enough authority to completely wipe them out, instead of being stuck with half-measures


I wonder how much of this is a response to outside efforts (real or imagined) to destabilize the government in a transitional period.

That or he's dumber and crazier than his Dad ever was.
 
2013-03-07 09:10:03 PM  

Tymast: Stir fry the dogs of war!


Genius!
I just sharted out my nose!
 
2013-03-07 09:10:20 PM  
meh. all the koreans I've ever met liked to drink heavy and had bad tempers. he might sober up in the morning and claim he doesn't remember any of it.
 
2013-03-07 09:10:25 PM  
media1.policymic.com
 
2013-03-07 09:10:28 PM  

make me some tea: Weaver95: i'm SO glad we put most of our operational military in the middle east to protect Israel from the consequences of their own stupidity.  oooo!  plus the GOP slap fight over taxes that ended up with the sequester cuts and impacting military readiness.  awesome job guys!  thanks!

I think at this point, it will take yet another "shiat getting real" moment to break the political blockades.


unless something directly and personally deeply affects each and every individual Republican member of congress....they won't change.  they'll still believe the echo chamber version of events and not reality as it stands.
 
2013-03-07 09:10:31 PM  

seadoo2006: So, answer me this: Has Best Korea significantly improved their rocket technology from what I can buy at the hobby shop, or are they still dropping ICBMs into the ocean 3 miles from launch?


Last attempt hit the 25 mile mark or so, I think. Enough to brush Japan
 
2013-03-07 09:10:32 PM  

CujoQuarrel: WTF Indeed: To be fair, this does mean the South can kill North Korean leadership whenever they want since they are legally back to open war.

And since they've stated their intention to nuke the USA at their earliest opportunity shouldn't we just preemptively nuke the bejebus out of them?


Yes, but using conventional weapons.
 
2013-03-07 09:10:43 PM  
Margaret Cho is about to get a bunch of work.

March Madness without a basketball!

/always sunny in Best Korea
 
2013-03-07 09:10:44 PM  
encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com

If China doesn't support them (and come on, who would they rather lose their biggest trading partner or constant shiat-stirrers?), then the potential war will last all of 5 farking seconds.
 
2013-03-07 09:11:23 PM  
China might be N. Korea's somewhat ally, but they of course realize the current economic relationship they have with us is very beneficial and they would be stupid to oppose us if anything did happen, and smart to help us destroy N.K. and introduce them diabetes, heart disease, internet, and general laziness.
 
2013-03-07 09:11:24 PM  

seadoo2006: So, answer me this: Has Best Korea significantly improved their rocket technology from what I can buy at the hobby shop, or are they still dropping ICBMs into the ocean 3 miles from launch?

If not, why not let the bastards starve until they run over the 38th Parallel or cross into China, in which case we/China/South Korea could just bomb the whole thing back to the stone age?


The stone age would be an improvement for some of the country.
 
2013-03-07 09:11:29 PM  
Please nuke Washington. A fresh start is about the best thing we can expect from that place anymore.
 
2013-03-07 09:11:36 PM  
I say we just drop one nuclear bomb and end this one real fast.
 
2013-03-07 09:11:54 PM  

SN1987a goes boom: [encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com image 261x193]

If China doesn't support them (and come on, who would they rather lose their biggest trading partner or constant shiat-stirrers?), then the potential war will last all of 5 farking seconds.


unless the norks decide that it'd be a hoot to nuke the Japanese stock exchange during the height of the trading day.  then things become less awesome for all and sundry.
 
2013-03-07 09:11:54 PM  
Does the NK Army even have enough fuel to reach Seoul?
 
2013-03-07 09:11:58 PM  

Solid State Vittles: Wouldn't have happened if Bill Wennington or Luc Longley went. Just sayin'.


I doubt they would have sent Will Perdue in the deal if that were the case.
 
2013-03-07 09:12:13 PM  

DeltaPunch: On a more serious note, does it mean anything that China also voted to toughen sanctions against NK? Do they usually vote that way, or is this something new?


As far as I know, it is something new, as in North Korea you are farking up our relationship with our largest trade partner so STFU. My guess is there will be some actions by Best Korea that will justify an Air Strike that kills Dear Leader and a puppet for the Chinese Government will take his place.
 
2013-03-07 09:12:15 PM  
fark it. Wipe the fat fark off the face of the earth. Turn the whole country into a swimming pool.
/I could never be president
 
2013-03-07 09:12:33 PM  

SN1987a goes boom: [encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com image 261x193]

If China doesn't support them (and come on, who would they rather lose their biggest trading partner or constant shiat-stirrers?), then the potential war will last all of 5 farking seconds.


Gulf War 1 would probably be the best analogy
 
2013-03-07 09:12:37 PM  
l.wigflip.com
 
2013-03-07 09:12:39 PM  

Tymast: Stir fry the dogs of war!


Cry hot wok....
 
2013-03-07 09:12:40 PM  
Kim Jong-un seems to have a considerably itchier bottom than Kim Jong-il.
 
2013-03-07 09:12:42 PM  

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Fine, then. Let's show him what happens when Spc. Ops lays waste to his team with a remote air strike, then camps his respawn point.


They're all busy doing,.. whatever it is they're doing in the desert.
 
2013-03-07 09:13:12 PM  
I actually, legitimately got bitten by a random chihuahua today on the way back from the laundry room. I hope that isn't a bad omen.

/she didn't break the skin, though she tried her best
 
2013-03-07 09:13:17 PM  

plumbicon: Is it time for some landscaping around the "Dear Comrade's"  palace?

Maybe like a glass parking lot?

Seriously, though, we know where their good stuff is, and a few JDAMs would probably do the trick.
The worst part is that the citizens who worship this ninny are the ones who'll suffer.


The problem is that the Best Koreans can lob a nuke or two at Seoul before our missiles get there.
 
2013-03-07 09:13:18 PM  

Lost Thought 00: seadoo2006: So, answer me this: Has Best Korea significantly improved their rocket technology from what I can buy at the hobby shop, or are they still dropping ICBMs into the ocean 3 miles from launch?

Last attempt hit the 25 mile mark or so, I think. Enough to brush Japan


If I am not mistaken, they are certainly close enough to lob a nuclear based artillery shell into Seoul.  They have LOTS of artillery.
 
2013-03-07 09:13:21 PM  
Hey NK!
4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-03-07 09:14:18 PM  
Is that really Dennis Rodman in drag?
 
2013-03-07 09:14:19 PM  

SN1987a goes boom: [encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com image 261x193]

If China doesn't support them (and come on, who would they rather lose their biggest trading partner or constant shiat-stirrers?), then the potential war will last all of 5 farking seconds.


Better to have a puny shiat-stirrer than being the one to cause trouble. NK is a great way for China to keep the region interesting so they can throw their weight around and use it as a bargaining chip to keep NK under control. It's why you have NK pulling this kind of stuff almost like clockwork every couple months.
 
2013-03-07 09:14:19 PM  

seadoo2006: So, answer me this: Has Best Korea significantly improved their rocket technology from what I can buy at the hobby shop, or are they still dropping ICBMs into the ocean 3 miles from launch?


Apparently they did actually launch a multi-staged rocket and achieved orbit just recently. Unless I missed the part about it not being true.

The U.S. also has an anti-ICBM system in place. Hopefully it works well enough. The greater threat is us being pulled into a land war to defend South Korea.
 
2013-03-07 09:14:21 PM  

SN1987a goes boom: [encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com image 261x193]

If China doesn't support them (and come on, who would they rather lose their biggest trading partner or constant shiat-stirrers?), then the potential war will last all of 5 farking seconds.


Something tells me that China is going to try to play both sides in this conflict.

/supply NorKor with food and fuel
//deny that they are doing so
 
2013-03-07 09:14:32 PM  

Omahawg: [25.media.tumblr.com image 480x267]


Featuring Donald Sutherland as the Clumsy Waiter!
 
2013-03-07 09:14:34 PM  

Weaver95: i'm SO glad we put most of our operational military in the middle east to protect Israel from the consequences of their own stupidity.  oooo!  plus the GOP slap fight over taxes that ended up with the sequester cuts and impacting military readiness.  awesome job guys!  thanks!


You should write a poem about this for your 9th grade lit class.  Maybe you'll get a B and your parents will bump up your allowance.
 
2013-03-07 09:14:40 PM  

Nogrhi: Lost Thought 00: seadoo2006: So, answer me this: Has Best Korea significantly improved their rocket technology from what I can buy at the hobby shop, or are they still dropping ICBMs into the ocean 3 miles from launch?

Last attempt hit the 25 mile mark or so, I think. Enough to brush Japan

If I am not mistaken, they are certainly close enough to lob a nuclear based artillery shell into Seoul.  They have LOTS of artillery.


Yes. Seoul is farked, probably, but it wouldn't be the first time they had to rebuild the city
 
2013-03-07 09:14:54 PM  
"OK, OK, hold on. We're sending someone in to negotiate"

www.thepostconsumerreview.com
 
2013-03-07 09:15:15 PM  
I hope we see a unified Korea in our lifetimes.
 
2013-03-07 09:15:23 PM  

Lost Thought 00: seadoo2006: So, answer me this: Has Best Korea significantly improved their rocket technology from what I can buy at the hobby shop, or are they still dropping ICBMs into the ocean 3 miles from launch?

Last attempt hit the 25 mile mark or so, I think. Enough to brush Japan


They're only 25 miles from Japan?
 
2013-03-07 09:15:29 PM  

make me some tea: seadoo2006: So, answer me this: Has Best Korea significantly improved their rocket technology from what I can buy at the hobby shop, or are they still dropping ICBMs into the ocean 3 miles from launch?

Apparently they did actually launch a multi-staged rocket and achieved orbit just recently. Unless I missed the part about it not being true.

The U.S. also has an anti-ICBM system in place. Hopefully it works well enough. The greater threat is us being pulled into a land war to defend South Korea.


nah, America would never be so dumb to get involved in a land war in asia after vietnam. we learned our lesson! right? RIGHT!?!?!?
 
2013-03-07 09:15:40 PM  

RickN99: Weaver95: i'm SO glad we put most of our operational military in the middle east to protect Israel from the consequences of their own stupidity.  oooo!  plus the GOP slap fight over taxes that ended up with the sequester cuts and impacting military readiness.  awesome job guys!  thanks!

You should write a poem about this for your 9th grade lit class.  Maybe you'll get a B and your parents will bump up your allowance.


If I'd wanted to hear your opinion, i'd have beaten it out of you.  now go get yer shine box.
 
2013-03-07 09:15:41 PM  

Great Janitor: I say we just drop one nuclear bomb and end this one real fast.


That would be a very bad move. The fallout would land almost entirely on China, and South Korean. That would be bad, mmkay. We'd be much better having a bunch of drone jockeys level the place.
 
2013-03-07 09:16:35 PM  

make me some tea: seadoo2006: So, answer me this: Has Best Korea significantly improved their rocket technology from what I can buy at the hobby shop, or are they still dropping ICBMs into the ocean 3 miles from launch?

Apparently they did actually launch a multi-staged rocket and achieved orbit just recently. Unless I missed the part about it not being true.

The U.S. also has an anti-ICBM system in place. Hopefully it works well enough. The greater threat is us being pulled into a land war to defendretake South Korea.


NK would overrun the south in 48-72 hours after destroying Seoul. We'd be forced to retake the damn peninsula.
 
2013-03-07 09:16:44 PM  

Great Janitor: I say we just drop one nuclear bomb and end this one real fast.


You don't want that to happen. That would lead to a nuclear retaliation by China the moment a fallout cloud drifts over their border.
 
2013-03-07 09:16:59 PM  
"I do not think the regime in Pyongyang wants to commit suicide, but that, as they must surely know, would be the result of any attack on the United States," Senator Bob Menendez told the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.

This is assuming the leadership of North Korea is rational...

Our government often assumes that the leadership of other nations will act rationally in their best interests, normally this would be a reasonable expectation...

But of course this is Best Korea we're talking about...
 
2013-03-07 09:17:00 PM  

Prickly Pete: I hope we see a unified Korea in our lifetimes.


The logistics are an absolute nightmare, in every sense of the word, but I would love to see North Koreans free and able to experience the world and all it has to offer.
 
2013-03-07 09:17:05 PM  
Yawn. This is North Korean for "give us more aid".

/hopefully
 
2013-03-07 09:17:21 PM  

Prickly Pete: I hope we see a unified Korea in our lifetimes.


Go play Homefront.
 
2013-03-07 09:17:27 PM  
Hey, girl, whatcha doin' down there?
Dancing alone every night while I live right above you.
I can hear your music playing
I can feel your body swaying
One floor below me, you don't even know me
I love you.

Oh my darling
Three Times on the ceiling if you want me
Twice on the pipes if the answer is no
Oh my sweetness
(Thump-thump-thump) means you'll meet me in the hallway
Twice on the pipes means you ain't gonna show....
 
2013-03-07 09:17:51 PM  

make me some tea: GAT_00: This shiatty headline is what they went with?

As opposed to the other, shiattier headlines?


The thanks Rodman was funnier.
 
2013-03-07 09:18:04 PM  

encyclopediaplushuman: China might be N. Korea's somewhat ally, but they of course realize the current economic relationship they have with us is very beneficial and they would be stupid to oppose us if anything did happen, and smart to help us destroy N.K. and introduce them diabetes, heart disease, internet, and general laziness.


I think the most help we could expect from China is that they might look the other way at an opportune time. But really, do we need more help from them than that?
 
2013-03-07 09:18:04 PM  

Weaver95: i'm SO glad we put most of our operational military in the middle east to protect Israel from the consequences of their own stupidity.  oooo!  plus the GOP slap fight over taxes that ended up with the sequester cuts and impacting military readiness.  awesome job guys!  thanks!


Yup, the week old sequester has really slashed readiness.  The troops aren't training at all... Oh wait, yes they are.  My wife is going out in the field next week, and I could literally hear the 240 fire from my house earlier this afternoon, and I got to wait in traffic while the artillery pieces from the FA battalion rolled past on their way out the gate to the firing ranges.  And the Kiowas that flew over my house, while I was typing this... yeah, I must have just imagined that.

Currently, there are about 68,000 troops in Afghanistan, and 20,000 in the Middle East, the majority in Kuwait.

We have 52,000 troops in Japan, and 28,000 in Korea.

We currently have 1,450,000 on active duty, and another 850,000 in reserve.

I'm thinking we're good.
 
2013-03-07 09:18:11 PM  
www.adafruit.com

'Cause it's more derp.
 
2013-03-07 09:18:30 PM  

Donau: Our government often assumes that the leadership of other nations will act rationally in their best interests


Fark, our government often assumes our own government will act rationally and in our best interests.
 
2013-03-07 09:18:33 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: Hey NK!
[4.bp.blogspot.com image 680x717]


pinkie.mylittlefacewhen.com
perfect, it all works according to plan
 
2013-03-07 09:18:38 PM  

SithLord: Prickly Pete: I hope we see a unified Korea in our lifetimes.

Go play Homefront.


No thanks. The controls were abysmal.
 
2013-03-07 09:18:43 PM  

Carth: NK would overrun the south in 48-72 hours after destroying Seoul. We'd be forced to retake the damn peninsula.


arch.413chan.net

No. No they wouldn't. Not without the support of the Chinese PLA. The fact you buy the propaganda they put out about "leveling Seoul" is hillarious.
 
2013-03-07 09:18:53 PM  

GAT_00: make me some tea: GAT_00: This shiatty headline is what they went with?

As opposed to the other, shiattier headlines?

The thanks Rodman was funnier.


As the submitter of the Thanks Rodman headline, I like this one better.
 
2013-03-07 09:19:11 PM  

kimwim: Lost Thought 00: seadoo2006: So, answer me this: Has Best Korea significantly improved their rocket technology from what I can buy at the hobby shop, or are they still dropping ICBMs into the ocean 3 miles from launch?

Last attempt hit the 25 mile mark or so, I think. Enough to brush Japan

They're only 25 miles from Japan?


Hyperbole. Closer to 300 miles
 
2013-03-07 09:19:20 PM  

cptjeff: plumbicon: Is it time for some landscaping around the "Dear Comrade's"  palace?

Maybe like a glass parking lot?

Seriously, though, we know where their good stuff is, and a few JDAMs would probably do the trick.
The worst part is that the citizens who worship this ninny are the ones who'll suffer.

The problem is that the Best Koreans can lob a nuke or two at Seoul before our missiles get there.


i.imgur.com
Doubt it.
 
2013-03-07 09:19:40 PM  
devildog123:

I'm thinking we're good.

And yet, i'm thinking we're not.
 
2013-03-07 09:19:49 PM  

Well, that's not helpful.
Are we going to need to edit a new version of this pic?

dtdstudios.com

 
2013-03-07 09:19:50 PM  

Prickly Pete: I hope we see a unified Korea in our lifetimes.


If we reduce north Korea to a glass parking lot, then technically we have unified Korea, right? 100% of living Koreans in that area will be in South Korea.
 
2013-03-07 09:20:08 PM  

Omahawg: make me some tea: seadoo2006: So, answer me this: Has Best Korea significantly improved their rocket technology from what I can buy at the hobby shop, or are they still dropping ICBMs into the ocean 3 miles from launch?

Apparently they did actually launch a multi-staged rocket and achieved orbit just recently. Unless I missed the part about it not being true.

The U.S. also has an anti-ICBM system in place. Hopefully it works well enough. The greater threat is us being pulled into a land war to defend South Korea.

nah, America would never be so dumb to get involved in a land war in asia after vietnam. we learned our lesson! right? RIGHT!?!?!?


Next thing you know, they'll be going in against Sicilians when death is on the line.
 
2013-03-07 09:20:22 PM  

Weaver95: RickN99: You should write a poem about this for your 9th grade lit class.  Maybe you'll get a B and your parents will bump up your allowance.

If I'd wanted to hear your opinion, i'd have beaten it out of you.  now go get yer shine box.


Now someone will have to hose down Weaver95's remains from the trunk of a car.

C'mon guys, settle down -- try some of this "food" the Besties can't have. Try the... anything, actually.

/you want a leg or a wing?
 
2013-03-07 09:20:39 PM  
The sanctions include wider bans on the sale of military technology and luxury goods, including gems, pearl jewellery, yachts and luxury cars.

So THAT'S what it took to finally get them to abrogate the ceasefire.
 
2013-03-07 09:21:02 PM  
'...hours after threatening the US with a pre-emptive nuclear strike.'

What are they waiting for.?

I'm tired of doing the same thing everyday and listening to 13 year old kids whine about The Avengers and their iPhones on YouTube all the time.
 
2013-03-07 09:21:13 PM  
Apparently this went to his head.

l3.yimg.com
 
2013-03-07 09:21:22 PM  
Until NK attacks then the ceasefire is still tacitly in place.  The rest of the world should shock the hell out of them and pre-emptively attack.  That farce of a nation has existed for too long and the oppression of its people is a blight on the face of humanity.
 
2013-03-07 09:21:25 PM  
images3.wikia.nocookie.net

This is just a hissy fit over the latest rounds of sanctions that was unanimously approved by the UN Security Council today.
 
2013-03-07 09:21:31 PM  

Millennium: Omahawg: make me some tea: seadoo2006: So, answer me this: Has Best Korea significantly improved their rocket technology from what I can buy at the hobby shop, or are they still dropping ICBMs into the ocean 3 miles from launch?

Apparently they did actually launch a multi-staged rocket and achieved orbit just recently. Unless I missed the part about it not being true.

The U.S. also has an anti-ICBM system in place. Hopefully it works well enough. The greater threat is us being pulled into a land war to defend South Korea.

nah, America would never be so dumb to get involved in a land war in asia after vietnam. we learned our lesson! right? RIGHT!?!?!?

Next thing you know, they'll be going in against Sicilians when death is on the line.


After that they will all start going ass to mouth
 
2013-03-07 09:21:39 PM  

scubamage: Great Janitor: I say we just drop one nuclear bomb and end this one real fast.

That would be a very bad move. The fallout would land almost entirely on China, and South Korean. That would be bad, mmkay. We'd be much better having a bunch of drone jockeys level the place.


Okay, instead of drones, bombers under fighter jet escort, to the largest North Korean city, bomb it until it is a memory.  Repeat until they surrender or until there is no such thing as a North Korean.  Better that then sending our troops into yet another ground war.
 
2013-03-07 09:21:40 PM  
Give the land to China.  This way we're not in the nation building business and the minefield (and US support) will keep them out of South Korea.
 
2013-03-07 09:22:18 PM  

fusillade762: luxury cars


How would you feel if you could never buy another Mid-1970s Lincoln?
 
2013-03-07 09:22:22 PM  

Counter_Intelligent: Is that really Dennis Rodman in drag?


Drag?
 
2013-03-07 09:22:39 PM  
Sure, a bunch of Worst Koreans would die, along with a bunch of Americans, but Best Korea must know that they would be obliterated in no time if they pulled that shiat.  In the process, China would be flooded with refugees it doesn't want.

If they have an ounce of rationality, this is merely bluster.  If not, it will be an ugly war ending with the obliteration of Best Korea in relatively short order.

Make no mistake about the South Koreans.  They can be brutal too.  See: Vietnam.
 
2013-03-07 09:23:14 PM  

scubamage: If we reduce north Korea to a glass parking lot, then technically we have unified Korea, right?


Sorta. Unless someone decides to dust off the "Project Plowshare" plans, and turn South Korea into an island.
 
2013-03-07 09:23:47 PM  
Does this mean the Dodgers can't use Hyun-Jin Ryu  as a starting pitcher ??
 
2013-03-07 09:23:58 PM  

Tellurium: Please nuke Washington. A fresh start is about the best thing we can expect from that place anymore.


On behalf of of all us who live with our families in the Metro DC area, go fark yourself.
 
2013-03-07 09:24:13 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Counter_Intelligent: Is that really Dennis Rodman in drag?

Drag?


OH SHIII~~~
 
2013-03-07 09:24:14 PM  

GAT_00: This shiatty headline is what they went with?


Yeah. The other ones were better but you submitted them.
 
2013-03-07 09:24:45 PM  
Seeing as the demand for electronics from Samsung and LG is not declining, and China's middle class continues to grow, having a new source of cheap manufacturing in the area has lots of economic benefits. North Korea's location is perfect, being located midway between two of the world's fastest growing and most economically powerful cities.

/come at me bro
 
2013-03-07 09:24:46 PM  

Great Janitor: scubamage: Great Janitor: I say we just drop one nuclear bomb and end this one real fast.

That would be a very bad move. The fallout would land almost entirely on China, and South Korean. That would be bad, mmkay. We'd be much better having a bunch of drone jockeys level the place.

Okay, instead of drones, bombers under fighter jet escort, to the largest North Korean city, bomb it until it is a memory.  Repeat until they surrender or until there is no such thing as a North Korean.  Better that then sending our troops into yet another ground war.


I'm pretty sure that China will supply most of the ground forces in such an event. They don't get to use their military that often, and I think they'd love the extra respect they'd get in the international community. Would all be done under the guise of a UN Peacekeeping force, of course.
 
2013-03-07 09:25:01 PM  

farkingismybusiness: cptjeff: plumbicon: Is it time for some landscaping around the "Dear Comrade's"  palace?

Maybe like a glass parking lot?

Seriously, though, we know where their good stuff is, and a few JDAMs would probably do the trick.
The worst part is that the citizens who worship this ninny are the ones who'll suffer.

The problem is that the Best Koreans can lob a nuke or two at Seoul before our missiles get there.

[i.imgur.com image 500x500]
Doubt it.


I'd have a nuclear armed submarine or 3 hanging out in the Sea of Japan for this contingency. Sending an ICBM halfway around the world is a waste of time, and would allow leadership to escape to protective bunkers, assuming they hadn't done so already.
 
2013-03-07 09:25:11 PM  
fark you NK.

Am I here early enough to stop the "container ship" retards yet?

I'm punching the first pants wetting container ship wackjob in the nuts.
 
2013-03-07 09:26:14 PM  

spamdog: Kim Jong-un seems to have a considerably itchier bottom than Kim Jong-il.


The new kid wants to prove himself.  He might have even bought into his own propaganda.
 
2013-03-07 09:26:29 PM  

Weaver95: devildog123:

I'm thinking we're good.

And yet, i'm thinking we're not.


My sole concern would be the size of the NK standing army. It's currently at 1.1 million, with well over 5 million more reservists (automatic conscription at age 17 for 5 years for all males, and many females).

I have no idea what state their military is in though technology wise, though I can imagine China has probably kept them pretty well up to date.
 
2013-03-07 09:26:34 PM  

neongoats: fark you NK.

Am I here early enough to stop the "container ship" retards yet?

I'm punching the first pants wetting container ship wackjob in the nuts.


?
 
2013-03-07 09:26:45 PM  

Weaver95: devildog123:

I'm thinking we're good.

And yet, i'm thinking we're not.


Seriously, if Un had his troops crossed the border tomorrow, or even in the next few months, what part of the sequester would effect our response?  Most of our combat troops at this point are actually combat veterans, and I doubt they're going to forget how to fight in the next few months, even if all they did was lay around at home and drink beer (which, I promise you, they aren't doing).  Do you think they wouldn't bump up military funding if we had to go balls deep in Korea?  Would a war be good?  Of course not.  I'm just saying, we have the resources to handle it.  Only in your little mind are all our troops camped out in Israel, defending those evil zionists you hate so much.
 
2013-03-07 09:26:53 PM  

WTF Indeed: As the submitter of the Thanks Rodman headline, I like this one better.


Why thank you, I liked yours too. When I saw they were "ripping up all the pacts" I imagined a teenage girl throwing a hissy, ripping up papers and clicking all the buttons on FB.
 
2013-03-07 09:27:05 PM  

Great Janitor: Okay, instead of drones, bombers under fighter jet escort, to the largest North Korean city, bomb it until it is a memory. Repeat until they surrender or until there is no such thing as a North Korean. Better that then sending our troops into yet another ground war.


So, a war crime, then?

Because it's pretty commonly accepted that carpet-bombing civilian areas went out of vogue at the end of World War II, and was a pretty ineffective and dick move in Vietnam.
 
2013-03-07 09:27:07 PM  

Testiclaw: Prickly Pete: I hope we see a unified Korea in our lifetimes.

The logistics are an absolute nightmare, in every sense of the word, but I would love to see North Koreans free and able to experience the world and all it has to offer.


The biggest logistical nightmare I can see would be the likelihood of mass suicides when the Great Successor dies. The guy rules by personality cult, like his predecessors, and if even 0.1% of the populace decides to follow him into the grave, that's almost 25,000 people.

This is a pity. It is also a pity that there exist people without whom the world would genuinely be a better place, but the speed with which Kim Jong-Un has become one may well break some records.
 
2013-03-07 09:27:18 PM  

SN1987a goes boom: [encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com image 261x193]

If China doesn't support them (and come on, who would they rather lose their biggest trading partner or constant shiat-stirrers?), then the potential war will last all of 5 farking seconds.


You seem pretty confident while staring at photographic evidence of a government that has developed Stealth Nation Technology.
 
2013-03-07 09:28:01 PM  
On the bright side, M*A*S*H was a great series. It could use a sequel.
 
2013-03-07 09:28:04 PM  
FTFA: "A foreign ministry spokesman warned a second Korean war was "unavoidable", because the US and South Korea had refused to cancel their joint military exercise."

FTOFA:"North Korea vows nuclear attack on US, saying Washington will be 'engulfed in a sea of fire'"

starling.rinet.ru

Well it's one two three
What are we fighting for?
Don't ask me I don't like Sharia
next stop is North Korea

Well we've had our fun
Killing all those Mid East guys
Well, there ain't no time to wonder why
Whoopee we're all gonna die!

/got nuthin'
 
2013-03-07 09:28:27 PM  

Millennium: and if even 0.1% of the populace decides to follow him into the grave, that's almost 25,000 people.


:(
 
2013-03-07 09:28:38 PM  

farkingismybusiness: cptjeff: plumbicon: Is it time for some landscaping around the "Dear Comrade's"  palace?

Maybe like a glass parking lot?

Seriously, though, we know where their good stuff is, and a few JDAMs would probably do the trick.
The worst part is that the citizens who worship this ninny are the ones who'll suffer.

The problem is that the Best Koreans can lob a nuke or two at Seoul before our missiles get there.

[i.imgur.com image 500x500]
Doubt it.


I'm glad that our defense and intelligence agencies don't have to suffer from your boundless wit.
 
2013-03-07 09:28:50 PM  
DENNIS!

FARKING!


oi45.tinypic.com
RODMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN! !!! !!!
 
2013-03-07 09:29:05 PM  

neongoats: fark you NK.

Am I here early enough to stop the "container ship" retards yet?

I'm punching the first pants wetting container ship wackjob in the nuts.


What do you mean by "container ship retards"?
 
2013-03-07 09:29:26 PM  

quizzical: spamdog: Kim Jong-un seems to have a considerably itchier bottom than Kim Jong-il.

The new kid wants to prove himself.  He might have even bought into his own propaganda.


What do you expect from someone raised by Kim Jong-Il? If it weren't for his nuclear aggression, I might pity the man.
 
2013-03-07 09:30:45 PM  

germ78: SN1987a goes boom: [encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com image 261x193]

If China doesn't support them (and come on, who would they rather lose their biggest trading partner or constant shiat-stirrers?), then the potential war will last all of 5 farking seconds.

Something tells me that China is going to try to play both sides in this conflict.

/supply NorKor with food and fuel
//deny that they are doing so


I can see them doing that, but if NK went full nuclear retard, then I doubt very much they would throw in with them.
 
2013-03-07 09:30:53 PM  

igorknowsall: That chubby little fella really needs attention.


He's just lashing out, after his wife laughed at the size of his Dong.
 
2013-03-07 09:31:13 PM  
North Korea won't be taken seriously until they have to be taken seriously. Then everyone will wonder why they weren't taken seriously earlier.

If they are so harmless why the sanctions?
 
2013-03-07 09:31:14 PM  

Atomic Spunk: neongoats: fark you NK.

Am I here early enough to stop the "container ship" retards yet?

I'm punching the first pants wetting container ship wackjob in the nuts.

What do you mean by "container ship retards"?


Presumably, that the Norks could use a massive fleet of container ships to surprise-invade the US like in World in Conflict/Red Dawn.  Which is absolutely as stupid as it sounds.
 
2013-03-07 09:31:19 PM  

pxlboy: neongoats: fark you NK.

Am I here early enough to stop the "container ship" retards yet?

I'm punching the first pants wetting container ship wackjob in the nuts.

?


In all the other North Korea threads, the pants shiatters are deathly afraid of North Korea sending a container ship to San Francisco with a sooper sekrit nuke secreted away in it. Because we wouldn't see a container ship. Because that's Kkkkraaazy and insane. So it just might work!

You know, unlike putting one on a submarine or something.
 
2013-03-07 09:31:24 PM  

Tom_Slick: DeltaPunch: On a more serious note, does it mean anything that China also voted to toughen sanctions against NK? Do they usually vote that way, or is this something new?

As far as I know, it is something new, as in North Korea you are farking up our relationship with our largest trade partner so STFU. My guess is there will be some actions by Best Korea that will justify an Air Strike that kills Dear Leader and a puppet for the Chinese Government will take his place.


I'm pretty sure China will just raise its hand say "We've got this". Then China will drag NK into a room and come out an hour later zipping it's fly and wiping blood off its hands and say "Won't be anymore trouble out of that one."
 
2013-03-07 09:32:02 PM  
The last thing in the world we'll do is drop a nuke, even in retaliation. Honestly It's one of the few rational fears I have that the first to drop a nuke will be retaliated against by all other capable nations regardless of loyalties and treaties. One detonation by any of the power player nations will also give excuse for other conflicts to start chain reaction style... India and Pakistan, Israel and everybody else in the mid east ect... too much too far apart to clean the mess and play world police like we like to do.

If we get involved in NK whether they try to nuke or not, we will likely use drones to hammer key installations and limit armored barricade as SK and us forces cross the DMZ. A land war is the most PC way to invade, and if done at night will be safer for the soldiers involved... Doubt NK has night vision, but if they do it would be old tech and not as efficient.

Regardless, If anything happens, It's likely to be fairly quick in my mind. I could be overconfident, but I also believe that quality always beats quantity. As long as the war commander in charge isn't stupid or arrogant about any of this we're fine. China will probably stay out and focus on refugee control unless directly provoked... Probably by Japan, but I doubt any of them are that stupid... I hope

/I've played Risk so I know what I'm talking about
//Got killed at Strategos
 
2013-03-07 09:32:04 PM  

hardinparamedic: hat would lead to a nuclear retaliation by China the moment a fallout cloud drifts over their border.


how in the world would they be able to distinguish it from the polluted air they already have/make?
 
2013-03-07 09:32:15 PM  

germ78: farkingismybusiness: cptjeff: plumbicon: Is it time for some landscaping around the "Dear Comrade's"  palace?

Maybe like a glass parking lot?

Seriously, though, we know where their good stuff is, and a few JDAMs would probably do the trick.
The worst part is that the citizens who worship this ninny are the ones who'll suffer.

The problem is that the Best Koreans can lob a nuke or two at Seoul before our missiles get there.

[i.imgur.com image 500x500]
Doubt it.

I'd have a nuclear armed submarine or 3 hanging out in the Sea of Japan for this contingency. Sending an ICBM halfway around the world is a waste of time, and would allow leadership to escape to protective bunkers, assuming they hadn't done so already.


You say that like we probably don't already have a few boomers sitting there silently already.
Not that I'd know anything about that...
 
2013-03-07 09:32:24 PM  

NEDM: Atomic Spunk: neongoats: fark you NK.

Am I here early enough to stop the "container ship" retards yet?

I'm punching the first pants wetting container ship wackjob in the nuts.

What do you mean by "container ship retards"?

Presumably, that the Norks could use a massive fleet of container ships to surprise-invade the US like in World in Conflict/Red Dawn.  Which is absolutely as stupid as it sounds.


COCKPUNCH!
 
2013-03-07 09:32:42 PM  

greentea1985: Now the question will be how China reacts. We already know China is pissed at North Korea, after all China helped write and voted for the recent set of sanctions. The smart move will be to wait until Kim Jong Un starts an attack. Although he is being aggressive, neither the US nor South Korea should fire the first shot.


China was once Vietnam's Bestest Bro, but that didn't stop them from slapping 'Nam's sh*t around in the 70's after the US was long gone from there.
 
2013-03-07 09:32:48 PM  
I hate to interrupt your NK/SK wankfest here, but I thought I'd better inform you of something REALLY important going on in this world.

JUSTIN BIEBER WAS JUST RUSHED TO THE HOSPITAL WITH BREATHING DIFFICULTIES!
 
2013-03-07 09:33:02 PM  
So, what do you think Fatboy is going to do?
 
2013-03-07 09:33:04 PM  

DamnYankees: Well, there's a DMZ for a reason.


Muahaha if only they knew that I already own a small piece of the wire fence.
 
2013-03-07 09:33:09 PM  

Lenny_da_Hog: On the bright side, M*A*S*H was a great series. It could use a sequel.


Damn, I knew I was forgetting a meme.
 
2013-03-07 09:33:15 PM  

The Haberdasher: North Korea won't be taken seriously until they have to be taken seriously. Then everyone will wonder why they weren't taken seriously earlier.

If they are so harmless why the sanctions?


There's a big gap between "not taking them seriously" and "nuking a major population center over saber rattling"
 
2013-03-07 09:33:29 PM  
I really don't think you have to worry about the US getting very involved if they attack SK. There would be a barrage of speeches condemning the attack, but that's about it. All the talk of fighting oppression in the name of freedom is really just propaganda. There's nothing to gain by responding, so they won't.
 
2013-03-07 09:33:50 PM  
global3.memecdn.com
 
2013-03-07 09:34:08 PM  

Atomic Spunk: I hate to interrupt your NK/SK wankfest here, but I thought I'd better inform you of something REALLY important going on in this world.

JUSTIN BIEBER WAS JUST RUSHED TO THE HOSPITAL WITH BREATHING DIFFICULTIES!


O
M
G
 
2013-03-07 09:34:28 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: Hey NK!
[4.bp.blogspot.com image 680x717]


Release the BASS CANNON!

25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-03-07 09:34:51 PM  
iambrony.steeph.tp-radio.de
 
2013-03-07 09:34:56 PM  
imageshack.us
eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
 
2013-03-07 09:35:00 PM  

AnythingBacon: The last thing in the world we'll do is drop a nuke, even in retaliation. Honestly It's one of the few rational fears I have that the first to drop a nuke will be retaliated against by all other capable nations regardless of loyalties and treaties. One detonation by any of the power player nations will also give excuse for other conflicts to start chain reaction style... India and Pakistan, Israel and everybody else in the mid east ect... too much too far apart to clean the mess and play world police like we like to do.

If we get involved in NK whether they try to nuke or not, we will likely use drones to hammer key installations and limit armored barricade as SK and us forces cross the DMZ. A land war is the most PC way to invade, and if done at night will be safer for the soldiers involved... Doubt NK has night vision, but if they do it would be old tech and not as efficient.

Regardless, If anything happens, It's likely to be fairly quick in my mind. I could be overconfident, but I also believe that quality always beats quantity. As long as the war commander in charge isn't stupid or arrogant about any of this we're fine. China will probably stay out and focus on refugee control unless directly provoked... Probably by Japan, but I doubt any of them are that stupid... I hope

/I've played Risk so I know what I'm talking about
//Got killed at Strategos


And land war in southeast Asia?
 
2013-03-07 09:35:14 PM  

Atomic Spunk: I hate to interrupt your NK/SK wankfest here, but I thought I'd better inform you of something REALLY important going on in this world.

JUSTIN BIEBER WAS JUST RUSHED TO THE HOSPITAL WITH BREATHING DIFFICULTIES!


That was his singing. Sheesh, you'd think people would be used to it by now.
 
2013-03-07 09:35:46 PM  
If it comes to shooting, China will either sit on the sidelines (after making it abundantly clear that American and South Korean troops are not to cross their border under any circumstances) or simply invade North Korea themselves since if it's going to happen anyways. they might as well do it on their own terms.  The mere fact they voted for the sanctions instead of vetoing it tells us that it's pretty much a forgone conclusion that they will not back North Korea should they start another war.


Of course as always with North Korea, this could just be another case of a day ending in "y",  any Farkers know if have they ever explicitly shredded the ceasefire agreement before?
 
2013-03-07 09:36:00 PM  
And now it's a Pony thread...
 
2013-03-07 09:36:05 PM  
"The sanctions include wider bans on the sale of military technology and luxury goods, including gems, pearl jewellery, yachts and luxury cars."

Oh yeah, that'll show 'em.

I feel bad for the starving North Koreans who don't give a shiat about any of this. May this horrible regime collapse peacefully and soon-ish.
 
2013-03-07 09:36:13 PM  

J. Frank Parnell: I really don't think you have to worry about the US getting very involved if they attack SK. There would be a barrage of speeches condemning the attack, but that's about it. All the talk of fighting oppression in the name of freedom is really just propaganda. There's nothing to gain by responding, so they won't.


Unless NK manages to phase through the DMZ, it's impossible to not involve us
 
2013-03-07 09:36:17 PM  

IamAwake: hardinparamedic: hat would lead to a nuclear retaliation by China the moment a fallout cloud drifts over their border.

how in the world would they be able to distinguish it from the polluted air they already have/make?


The current stuff makes you choke.

The new stuff will make you choke as you grow a second head and develop lymphoma.
 
2013-03-07 09:36:23 PM  

devildog123: Weaver95: devildog123:

I'm thinking we're good.

And yet, i'm thinking we're not.

Seriously, if Un had his troops crossed the border tomorrow, or even in the next few months, what part of the sequester would effect our response?  Most of our combat troops at this point are actually combat veterans, and I doubt they're going to forget how to fight in the next few months, even if all they did was lay around at home and drink beer (which, I promise you, they aren't doing).  Do you think they wouldn't bump up military funding if we had to go balls deep in Korea?  Would a war be good?  Of course not.  I'm just saying, we have the resources to handle it.  Only in your little mind are all our troops camped out in Israel, defending those evil zionists you hate so much.


by the time we got our troops in theatre enough to do anything effective, we'd have lost most of south korea, if not all of it.  there's even a chance the Norks could hit Japan.  for extra giggles, NK could rack off some rounds at Taiwan.  meanwhile, we'll spend time bogged down in debate about sequester cuts and who's gonna pay for the logistics requires to recall our reservists, get 'em combat ready and geared, then put them on the ground in theater.  forget about any sort of economic recover - not only did those spending cuts kick us in the nuts, we also just took a lot of reservists out of the economy and put 'em on the front lines.

then when we redeploy, Iran gets to ramp up their efforts to build a nuclear weapon.  Israel gets f*cking paranoid as hell and if we're not around to calm 'em down, they might decide to kick off WWIII in the middle east.

end result?  we get f*cked from both ends, the GOP blames Obama and our country implodes into economic instability and political chaos.
 
2013-03-07 09:36:32 PM  
I'm ashamed of Fark for giving this attention.

It's clearly viral marketing for Red Dawn.
 
2013-03-07 09:36:36 PM  

scubamage: germ78: farkingismybusiness: cptjeff: plumbicon: Is it time for some landscaping around the "Dear Comrade's"  palace?

Maybe like a glass parking lot?

Seriously, though, we know where their good stuff is, and a few JDAMs would probably do the trick.
The worst part is that the citizens who worship this ninny are the ones who'll suffer.

The problem is that the Best Koreans can lob a nuke or two at Seoul before our missiles get there.

[i.imgur.com image 500x500]
Doubt it.

I'd have a nuclear armed submarine or 3 hanging out in the Sea of Japan for this contingency. Sending an ICBM halfway around the world is a waste of time, and would allow leadership to escape to protective bunkers, assuming they hadn't done so already.

You say that like we probably don't already have a few boomers sitting there silently already.
Not that I'd know anything about that...


Didn't have to alter those cold war deployment patterns too dramatically, did they?
 
2013-03-07 09:36:37 PM  

igorknowsall: That chubby little fella really needs attention.


So ronery.

From Orbit.  To be sure.
 
2013-03-07 09:36:45 PM  
Lessee...a week ago, the sequester went into effect, military spending was cut with more cuts pending.  Now NK starts going apeshiat.  One wonders if NK wasn't encouraged to do this by folks keen on stopping those cuts.

"See!?  There are wolves at the gate.  Cut our funding at your own peril!"
 
2013-03-07 09:36:46 PM  

davidphogan: Lenny_da_Hog: On the bright side, M*A*S*H was a great series. It could use a sequel.

Damn, I knew I was forgetting a meme.


No one remembers "After M*A*S*H" ? shiat I feel old.
 
2013-03-07 09:36:47 PM  
oh goodie...
 
2013-03-07 09:36:54 PM  
Nobody yet has mentioned the boat sails that Un uses as pant legs?

Really, it's comical...
 
2013-03-07 09:36:56 PM  

hardinparamedic: Great Janitor: Okay, instead of drones, bombers under fighter jet escort, to the largest North Korean city, bomb it until it is a memory. Repeat until they surrender or until there is no such thing as a North Korean. Better that then sending our troops into yet another ground war.

So, a war crime, then?

Because it's pretty commonly accepted that carpet-bombing civilian areas went out of vogue at the end of World War II, and was a pretty ineffective and dick move in Vietnam.


Yeah, I thought of that, but if North Korea started a war, how soon would the North Korean government start conscripting all males in the country 17 years and older?  The North Korean government does have a policy of requiring all males to serve in the military for a couple of years.  So it isn't so much killing civilians as taking out reserved forces.
 
2013-03-07 09:37:56 PM  
Just be sure to grab this first:

www.wshin.com

It'll make things that much faster.


/or perhaps turn on insta-gib mode
 
2013-03-07 09:37:57 PM  
THIS THREAD HAS JUST GONE PONY!

narwhaler.com
 
2013-03-07 09:38:03 PM  

seadoo2006: Ooooh, yay, another full-scale ground war the US is going to be in ... is this a repeat from the 1950s?


Don't be silly, our air force is so hilariously superior to theirs that we would probably deliver a missile right into Un's left ear within 2 minutes of the order being given, and the rest of his military assets would soon follow.  They have a lot of AA, but most of it is old and we have stealth.


Weaver95: devildog123:

I'm thinking we're good.

And yet, i'm thinking we're not.


Based ooooonn....?
We already account for a huge percentage of the world's military spending.  I really, really don't think that a little sequester is going to significantly impact our ability to blow things up.
 
2013-03-07 09:38:06 PM  
My bet is that if he really tries to ramp it up, some sane military member will kill Un.
 
2013-03-07 09:38:07 PM  

pxlboy: neongoats: fark you NK.

Am I here early enough to stop the "container ship" retards yet?

I'm punching the first pants wetting container ship wackjob in the nuts.

?


I have no idea.
 
2013-03-07 09:39:09 PM  

Atomic Spunk: I hate to interrupt your NK/SK wankfest here, but I thought I'd better inform you of something REALLY important going on in this world.

JUSTIN BIEBER WAS JUST RUSHED TO THE HOSPITAL WITH BREATHING DIFFICULTIES!


MuthaF*ck! Has anybody informed Obammy? Do we fly flags at half staff? When is the Hollywood Charity event?
 
2013-03-07 09:39:14 PM  
Yeah, a lot of people buying into US propaganda about how great we are and how terrible they are.

Let's cover this:
Military - No easy feat - the terrain is mountainous and the positions entrenched.  Air and sea support is rendered useless by terrain, and we can't do the kind of civilian casualties in non-mountainous terrain like the first war.  This wouldn't be fun, and we still have Afghanistan to fight.

Economy - South Korea is the 15th biggest economy in the world, a lot of that tied up in Seoul.  North Korea has been rather obvious in making it known that their first strike would obliterate Seoul.  Even if, as claimed earlier (which I disagree with), 90% of the artillery pieces failed, that 10% would wreck Seoul.  The humanitarian crisis because of so many displaced people would ruin the economy there.  Let's not even begin to cover cost.

Goal:  We can either nation-build (bad at it) a country with almost zero infrastructure, agriculture and technology, abandon it to a new crisis between South Korea and China over land/border disputes, or give it back "Iraq Style" and watch as the military and aristocracy there fight it out and leave it relatively as bad as before.

All that said, keep on waving those flags and acting like it won't be a big deal, or that they are just super inept.  Someone would have to be out there in the shiat, though, and I don't think many people, if any, are willing to volunteer.
 
2013-03-07 09:39:14 PM  

scubamage: IamAwake: hardinparamedic: hat would lead to a nuclear retaliation by China the moment a fallout cloud drifts over their border.

how in the world would they be able to distinguish it from the polluted air they already have/make?

The current stuff makes you choke.

The new stuff will make you choke as you grow a second head and develop lymphoma.


Or, you know, China is in the wrong direction to have to worry about fallout.
 
2013-03-07 09:39:17 PM  

E-Brake: Why thank you, I liked yours too. When I saw they were "ripping up all the pacts" I imagined a teenage girl throwing a hissy, ripping up papers and clicking all the buttons on FB.


Yours is definitely paints a funnier image. Which is the best way to write a Fark headline.
 
2013-03-07 09:39:41 PM  

neongoats: davidphogan: Lenny_da_Hog: On the bright side, M*A*S*H was a great series. It could use a sequel.

Damn, I knew I was forgetting a meme.

No one remembers "After M*A*S*H" ? shiat I feel old.


No one remembers it because it really sucked and nobody watched it.
 
2013-03-07 09:39:56 PM  

Great Janitor: hardinparamedic: Great Janitor: Okay, instead of drones, bombers under fighter jet escort, to the largest North Korean city, bomb it until it is a memory. Repeat until they surrender or until there is no such thing as a North Korean. Better that then sending our troops into yet another ground war.

So, a war crime, then?

Because it's pretty commonly accepted that carpet-bombing civilian areas went out of vogue at the end of World War II, and was a pretty ineffective and dick move in Vietnam.

Yeah, I thought of that, but if North Korea started a war, how soon would the North Korean government start conscripting all males in the country 17 years and older?  The North Korean government does have a policy of requiring all males to serve in the military for a couple of years.  So it isn't so much killing civilians as taking out reserved forces.


The only thing making the guys in the front row fight is the guns pointed at their backs. You waste fewer bullets by simply shooting the guys in the back row. Schematically speaking, of course
 
2013-03-07 09:40:08 PM  

JasonOfOrillia: Until NK attacks then the ceasefire is still tacitly in place.  The rest of the world should shock the hell out of them and pre-emptively attack.  That farce of a nation has existed for too long and the oppression of its people is a blight on the face of humanity.


Yes, we should free them from oppression by blowing them up, right?
 
2013-03-07 09:40:43 PM  
So... will Obama use the earthquake machine, the typhoon device, the tsunami impeller, or the meteorite mass-driver this time?
 
2013-03-07 09:41:16 PM  
Let them starve.
 
2013-03-07 09:41:20 PM  

Weaver95: devildog123: Weaver95: devildog123:

I'm thinking we're good.

And yet, i'm thinking we're not.

Seriously, if Un had his troops crossed the border tomorrow, or even in the next few months, what part of the sequester would effect our response?  Most of our combat troops at this point are actually combat veterans, and I doubt they're going to forget how to fight in the next few months, even if all they did was lay around at home and drink beer (which, I promise you, they aren't doing).  Do you think they wouldn't bump up military funding if we had to go balls deep in Korea?  Would a war be good?  Of course not.  I'm just saying, we have the resources to handle it.  Only in your little mind are all our troops camped out in Israel, defending those evil zionists you hate so much.

by the time we got our troops in theatre enough to do anything effective, we'd have lost most of south korea, if not all of it.  there's even a chance the Norks could hit Japan.  for extra giggles, NK could rack off some rounds at Taiwan.  meanwhile, we'll spend time bogged down in debate about sequester cuts and who's gonna pay for the logistics requires to recall our reservists, get 'em combat ready and geared, then put them on the ground in theater.  forget about any sort of economic recover - not only did those spending cuts kick us in the nuts, we also just took a lot of reservists out of the economy and put 'em on the front lines.

then when we redeploy, Iran gets to ramp up their efforts to build a nuclear weapon.  Israel gets f*cking paranoid as hell and if we're not around to calm 'em down, they might decide to kick off WWIII in the middle east.

end result?  we get f*cked from both ends, the GOP blames Obama and our country implodes into economic instability and political chaos.


The good news is that war usually ducks up a good depression/recession fairly quick.
 
2013-03-07 09:41:24 PM  

AnythingBacon: The last thing in the world we'll do is drop a nuke, even in retaliation.


After having visited Hiroshima and Nagasaki I'd have to say your statement is one of the most stupid statements I have ever encountered in my life. The possibility of politicians and statesmen doing the impossible is legendary and gruesome.

Are you really that bereft of sense?
 
2013-03-07 09:41:25 PM  

TV's Vinnie: greentea1985: Now the question will be how China reacts. We already know China is pissed at North Korea, after all China helped write and voted for the recent set of sanctions. The smart move will be to wait until Kim Jong Un starts an attack. Although he is being aggressive, neither the US nor South Korea should fire the first shot.

China was once Vietnam's Bestest Bro, but that didn't stop them from slapping 'Nam's sh*t around in the 70's after the US was long gone from there.


Part of the problem is that China considers most of East Asia to be wayward children that will one day be reannexed to the motherland. The Vietnamese fought a pretty good guerrilla war led by the Nguyen sisters about 1500 years ago or so to toss their asses out.
 
2013-03-07 09:41:26 PM  
I can just see this happening right now at FattyDingDong's palace in Pyongyang:

i49.tinypic.com

"No good little American punks! They think they're so cool and smart. I'LL SHOW THEM! I'm gonna call them up and tell them that they suck and I'm so hot that I get all the girls and that they'd better treat me with some RES-PECT and give me whatever I want or I'm gonna use these things that Daddy left for me. Yeah! They won't be laughing at me anymore if I do that!"

"GUARDS! FIRE UP THE GENERATOR! I wish to make a phone call!"
 
2013-03-07 09:41:40 PM  
Also, DAMMIT Bathia_Mapes!

/thanks
 
2013-03-07 09:41:53 PM  
Lets not forget to use a lot of nukes close to the Chinese border.The more fallout the better.
 
2013-03-07 09:41:55 PM  

Weaver95: devildog123: Weaver95: devildog123:

I'm thinking we're good.

And yet, i'm thinking we're not.

Seriously, if Un had his troops crossed the border tomorrow, or even in the next few months, what part of the sequester would effect our response?  Most of our combat troops at this point are actually combat veterans, and I doubt they're going to forget how to fight in the next few months, even if all they did was lay around at home and drink beer (which, I promise you, they aren't doing).  Do you think they wouldn't bump up military funding if we had to go balls deep in Korea?  Would a war be good?  Of course not.  I'm just saying, we have the resources to handle it.  Only in your little mind are all our troops camped out in Israel, defending those evil zionists you hate so much.

by the time we got our troops in theatre enough to do anything effective, we'd have lost most of south korea, if not all of it.  there's even a chance the Norks could hit Japan.  for extra giggles, NK could rack off some rounds at Taiwan.  meanwhile, we'll spend time bogged down in debate about sequester cuts and who's gonna pay for the logistics requires to recall our reservists, get 'em combat ready and geared, then put them on the ground in theater.  forget about any sort of economic recover - not only did those spending cuts kick us in the nuts, we also just took a lot of reservists out of the economy and put 'em on the front lines.

then when we redeploy, Iran gets to ramp up their efforts to build a nuclear weapon.  Israel gets f*cking paranoid as hell and if we're not around to calm 'em down, they might decide to kick off WWIII in the middle east.

end result?  we get f*cked from both ends, the GOP blames Obama and our country implodes into economic instability and political chaos.


Uh, I like you and stuff. But we are still technically at war with Best Korea. There will be no congressional hand wringing about what to do about Korea.
 
2013-03-07 09:42:03 PM  
Ah.  Sigh.  Another impotent, testosterone filled violence fantasy love-fest Fark thread about police hating tipping circumcision rape abortion gay marriage North Korea.
 
2013-03-07 09:42:05 PM  

Lt. Cheese Weasel: Let them starve.


Hasn't stopped them yet.
 
2013-03-07 09:42:05 PM  

Counter_Intelligent: Is that really Dennis Rodman in drag?


He does that all the time. He and Un probably talked a lot about how hard it is to find a dress that fits.
 
2013-03-07 09:42:54 PM  

cc_rider: Oh yeah, that'll show 'em.

I feel bad for the starving North Koreans who don't give a shiat about any of this. May this horrible regime collapse peacefully and soon-ish


I recently came across a video of a train in North Korea ( I am something of a train enthusiast and you know how that youtube shiat goes, one thing lead to another etc).  It is a steam locomotive. An old steam locomotive. And for fuel it is burning old rubber tires as it trundles through an absolutely barren landscape.

Sad.

North Best Korea is incapable of sustained conflict.
 
2013-03-07 09:43:03 PM  

Lenny_da_Hog: Lt. Cheese Weasel: Let them starve.

Hasn't stopped them yet.


You can thank the UN for that.
 
2013-03-07 09:43:12 PM  

Wanebo: AnythingBacon: The last thing in the world we'll do is drop a nuke, even in retaliation. Honestly It's one of the few rational fears I have that the first to drop a nuke will be retaliated against by all other capable nations regardless of loyalties and treaties. One detonation by any of the power player nations will also give excuse for other conflicts to start chain reaction style... India and Pakistan, Israel and everybody else in the mid east ect... too much too far apart to clean the mess and play world police like we like to do.

If we get involved in NK whether they try to nuke or not, we will likely use drones to hammer key installations and limit armored barricade as SK and us forces cross the DMZ. A land war is the most PC way to invade, and if done at night will be safer for the soldiers involved... Doubt NK has night vision, but if they do it would be old tech and not as efficient.

Regardless, If anything happens, It's likely to be fairly quick in my mind. I could be overconfident, but I also believe that quality always beats quantity. As long as the war commander in charge isn't stupid or arrogant about any of this we're fine. China will probably stay out and focus on refugee control unless directly provoked... Probably by Japan, but I doubt any of them are that stupid... I hope

/I've played Risk so I know what I'm talking about
//Got killed at Strategos

And land war in southeast Asia?


Yeah, but this is North East Asia, Way different. They're like 100 miles away or something :P

Besides, ground troops are and will always be involved, just seems to be the way things are still more controllably handled.

/I read Starship Troopers. We use ground troops to kill bugs... And skinnies
 
2013-03-07 09:43:22 PM  
Weaver95:
by the time we got our troops in theatre enough to do anything effective, we'd have lost most of south korea, if not all of it.  there's even a chance the Norks could hit Japan.  for extra giggles, NK could rack off some rounds at Taiwan.  meanwhile, we'll spend time bogged down in debate about sequester cuts and who's gonna pay for the logistics requires to recall our reservists, get 'em combat ready and geared, then put them on the ground in theater.  forget about any sort of economic recover - not only did those spending cuts kick us in the nuts, we also just took a lot of reservists out of the economy and put 'em on the front lines.

Why does everyone assume that the South Koreans are total pansies, and would get rolled?  They've spent the past 60 years building up their military as well.  They might not have the sheer mass of men under arms that the North has, but THEIR troops are actually fed, and they most certainly have better force multipliers.
 
2013-03-07 09:43:22 PM  

Great Janitor: hardinparamedic: Great Janitor: Okay, instead of drones, bombers under fighter jet escort, to the largest North Korean city, bomb it until it is a memory. Repeat until they surrender or until there is no such thing as a North Korean. Better that then sending our troops into yet another ground war.

So, a war crime, then?

Because it's pretty commonly accepted that carpet-bombing civilian areas went out of vogue at the end of World War II, and was a pretty ineffective and dick move in Vietnam.

Yeah, I thought of that, but if North Korea started a war, how soon would the North Korean government start conscripting all males in the country 17 years and older?  The North Korean government does have a policy of requiring all males to serve in the military for a couple of years.  So it isn't so much killing civilians as taking out reserved forces.


One of the great evils and hypocrisies of our current era is how we can let the unjust rule the just in cruel and inhumane manners. The world has stood by and let North Korea torture and kill its own civilians for years and done nothing. Speak with more respect for people who had no choice in the country they were born into, and deserve none of the ill will your comment or the world intends to shower upon them.
 
2013-03-07 09:43:23 PM  

Snarfangel: So... will Obama use the earthquake machine, the typhoon device, the tsunami impeller, or the meteorite mass-driver this time?


Well... the brain cancer inducer is out...
 
2013-03-07 09:43:32 PM  
You got to hand it to the guy.... pretty big balls.
Or maybe he's just batshiat insane.  Didn't this dude study in the west for awhile?  What gives?

My grandfather (Major - ARMY, Korea '50-'53 ) is currently looking down from above with a big, fat cigar and a bag of fresh popcorn in the celestial microwave.
 
2013-03-07 09:43:35 PM  

Great Janitor: hardinparamedic: Great Janitor: Okay, instead of drones, bombers under fighter jet escort, to the largest North Korean city, bomb it until it is a memory. Repeat until they surrender or until there is no such thing as a North Korean. Better that then sending our troops into yet another ground war.

So, a war crime, then?

Because it's pretty commonly accepted that carpet-bombing civilian areas went out of vogue at the end of World War II, and was a pretty ineffective and dick move in Vietnam.

Yeah, I thought of that, but if North Korea started a war, how soon would the North Korean government start conscripting all males in the country 17 years and older?  The North Korean government does have a policy of requiring all males to serve in the military for a couple of years.  So it isn't so much killing civilians as taking out reserved forces.


All males enter military service at age 17 for a period of 5 or more years. Many women too (though most get pulled into the "pleasure corps" which is pretty farked up). From that point on you're considered an active reservist until age 49. Which would give them a total army of well over 6 million people, 1.1 million of which are currently active duty. It's not a small army by any stretch of the imagination... not sure if they'd have near the munitions to actually supply that many people without doing the whole taking-back-Stalingrad thing.
 
2013-03-07 09:43:39 PM  

DamnYankees: Well, there's a DMZ for a reason.


librako.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-03-07 09:43:40 PM  
Welcome back to P.S. 4077. I'm happy to report that things are both hunky and dory.
 
2013-03-07 09:43:57 PM  
neongoats:
Uh, I like you and stuff. But we are still technically at war with Best Korea. There will be no congressional hand wringing about what to do about Korea.

are you at ALL familiar with the Republican party...?
 
2013-03-07 09:43:57 PM  

neongoats: Weaver95: devildog123: Weaver95: devildog123:

I'm thinking we're good.

And yet, i'm thinking we're not.

Seriously, if Un had his troops crossed the border tomorrow, or even in the next few months, what part of the sequester would effect our response?  Most of our combat troops at this point are actually combat veterans, and I doubt they're going to forget how to fight in the next few months, even if all they did was lay around at home and drink beer (which, I promise you, they aren't doing).  Do you think they wouldn't bump up military funding if we had to go balls deep in Korea?  Would a war be good?  Of course not.  I'm just saying, we have the resources to handle it.  Only in your little mind are all our troops camped out in Israel, defending those evil zionists you hate so much.

by the time we got our troops in theatre enough to do anything effective, we'd have lost most of south korea, if not all of it.  there's even a chance the Norks could hit Japan.  for extra giggles, NK could rack off some rounds at Taiwan.  meanwhile, we'll spend time bogged down in debate about sequester cuts and who's gonna pay for the logistics requires to recall our reservists, get 'em combat ready and geared, then put them on the ground in theater.  forget about any sort of economic recover - not only did those spending cuts kick us in the nuts, we also just took a lot of reservists out of the economy and put 'em on the front lines.

then when we redeploy, Iran gets to ramp up their efforts to build a nuclear weapon.  Israel gets f*cking paranoid as hell and if we're not around to calm 'em down, they might decide to kick off WWIII in the middle east.

end result?  we get f*cked from both ends, the GOP blames Obama and our country implodes into economic instability and political chaos.

Uh, I like you and stuff. But we are still technically at war with Best Korea. There will be no congressional hand wringing about what to do about Korea.


I don't think it was ever "officially" declared as anything but a police action

i'd have to ask harry truman but the misery mofo never answers his phone anymore :(
 
2013-03-07 09:44:00 PM  
Is it finally time for the Un to UnNazi the world?
 
2013-03-07 09:44:09 PM  
www.filmscorefocus.org
 
2013-03-07 09:44:15 PM  

Hey, Kim Jong-un...

i1156.photobucket.com

 
2013-03-07 09:44:27 PM  

TV's Vinnie: DamnYankees: Well, there's a DMZ for a reason.


You forgot the R.I.P.
 
2013-03-07 09:44:37 PM  

Pointy Tail of Satan: Lets not forget to use a lot of nukes close to the Chinese border.The more fallout the better.


pnmedia.gamespy.com

China is generous... very generous
 
2013-03-07 09:44:43 PM  

fusillade762: Counter_Intelligent: Is that really Dennis Rodman in drag?

He does that all the time. He and Un probably talked a lot about how hard it is to find a dress that fits.


Has he tried a muumuu?
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-03-07 09:45:10 PM  

NEDM: Weaver95:
by the time we got our troops in theatre enough to do anything effective, we'd have lost most of south korea, if not all of it.  there's even a chance the Norks could hit Japan.  for extra giggles, NK could rack off some rounds at Taiwan.  meanwhile, we'll spend time bogged down in debate about sequester cuts and who's gonna pay for the logistics requires to recall our reservists, get 'em combat ready and geared, then put them on the ground in theater.  forget about any sort of economic recover - not only did those spending cuts kick us in the nuts, we also just took a lot of reservists out of the economy and put 'em on the front lines.

Why does everyone assume that the South Koreans are total pansies, and would get rolled?  They've spent the past 60 years building up their military as well.  They might not have the sheer mass of men under arms that the North has, but THEIR troops are actually fed, and they most certainly have better force multipliers.


because the South koreans are sane.  the North Koreans are the f*cking zerg.
 
2013-03-07 09:45:16 PM  
MASH is overrated. I'll laugh tho if dennis rodman ends up the catalyst of ww3
 
2013-03-07 09:45:20 PM  
img836.imageshack.us

img199.imageshack.us

Uh oh!
 
2013-03-07 09:45:21 PM  

namegoeshere: So MASH is back on, then?


That would be the best thing that happened to TV in the last 30 years
 
2013-03-07 09:45:40 PM  
 
2013-03-07 09:45:42 PM  

Lenny_da_Hog: On the bright side, M*A*S*H was a great series. It could use a sequel.


I am a big fan of MASH, and I wonder what Alda would say right now.  When he took over, the show got all anti-war feel about it.  Is he ticked that after all this time the war was never really over and it may heat up again?

It does seem weird to take up arms again over the same issues when the men that fought it the first time are passing away of old age.  I had a coworker who was infantry during the last fight with NK, barely got a word from him about it.  His obit. said more about his service.  He passed away getting close to two years ago.
 
2013-03-07 09:45:59 PM  

Old_Chief_Scott: cc_rider: Oh yeah, that'll show 'em.

I feel bad for the starving North Koreans who don't give a shiat about any of this. May this horrible regime collapse peacefully and soon-ish

I recently came across a video of a train in North Korea ( I am something of a train enthusiast and you know how that youtube shiat goes, one thing lead to another etc).  It is a steam locomotive. An old steam locomotive. And for fuel it is burning old rubber tires as it trundles through an absolutely barren landscape.

Sad.

North Best Korea is incapable of sustained conflict.


The country has resources, but they're not available to the populace at large. The obscene luxury in which the party and its cronies live will eventually end -- and badly.

Until then, it is as many have observed: more attention whoring and saber rattling.
 
2013-03-07 09:47:11 PM  

neofonz: Why it wasn't resolved 60 years ago


i7.photobucket.com
'Say IT!!  SAY IT!!!'
 
2013-03-07 09:47:27 PM  

hardinparamedic: Carth: NK would overrun the south in 48-72 hours after destroying Seoul. We'd be forced to retake the damn peninsula.

[arch.413chan.net image 587x335]

No. No they wouldn't. Not without the support of the Chinese PLA. The fact you buy the propaganda they put out about "leveling Seoul" is hillarious.


What about their biological and chemical weapons, and ability to

hardinparamedic: Carth: NK would overrun the south in 48-72 hours after destroying Seoul. We'd be forced to retake the damn peninsula.

[arch.413chan.net image 587x335]

No. No they wouldn't. Not without the support of the Chinese PLA. The fact you buy the propaganda they put out about "leveling Seoul" is hillarious.


Thanks! Pictures of ponies and old blog posts! How about we talk about more recent reports like  FAS report on North Korean nuclear capabilities, the IISS report on their chemical  and biological weapons and the US's own North  Korea South Korea war scenario?


/spoiler US wins but tens of millions of people die
 
2013-03-07 09:47:50 PM  

Happy Hours: namegoeshere: So MASH is back on, then?

That would be the best thing that happened to TV in the last 30 years


The best thing to happen to TV would be if the Korean nukes landed on Madison Avenue.
 
2013-03-07 09:47:55 PM  
home.earthlink.net

/Those who do not remember the past...
//Of course NK probably doesn't have as many vehicles
 
2013-03-07 09:48:06 PM  

Lost Thought 00: The Haberdasher: North Korea won't be taken seriously until they have to be taken seriously. Then everyone will wonder why they weren't taken seriously earlier.

If they are so harmless why the sanctions?

There's a big gap between "not taking them seriously" and "nuking a major population center over saber rattling"


I know we can't nuke them. I don't know what should be done. But I feel at some point, one of these guys are going to make a threat and then go through with it. And it's going to be bad.
 
2013-03-07 09:48:07 PM  

ExpressPork: Send back our ambassador [freddyo.com image 500x629]


That guy got eveb crazier than I remember wtf.
 
2013-03-07 09:48:26 PM  
Maybe they did it as a goof.
 
2013-03-07 09:49:10 PM  
HEY KIM:
oi50.tinypic.com
 
2013-03-07 09:49:11 PM  

cc_rider: "The sanctions include wider bans on the sale of military technology and luxury goods, including gems, pearl jewellery, yachts and luxury cars."

Oh yeah, that'll show 'em.

I feel bad for the starving North Koreans who don't give a shiat about any of this. May this horrible regime collapse peacefully and soon-ish.


Honestly, yeah... it will show them.  The people (or person, rather) making all the decisions in NK gobble all that luxury shiat up.  They decry us to the population and then pull out the duPont Registry and go shopping.  This move is like taking a baby's toys away when it is being bad and hitting people with them.

And I agree, I hope by some miracle an actual functional country can peacefully pop up in NK.  That place is like an Orwellian nightmare, and the population is going to need a lot of psychotherapy if/when they come into contact with the outside.  A lot of them probably have no real clue what the world outside NK is like.
Maybe we'll finally have a job for all the psychology majors we graduate?
 
2013-03-07 09:49:35 PM  

Xyphoid: Yeah, a lot of people buying into US propaganda about how great we are and how terrible they are.

Let's cover this:
Military - No easy feat - the terrain is mountainous and the positions entrenched.  Air and sea support is rendered useless by terrain, and we can't do the kind of civilian casualties in non-mountainous terrain like the first war.  This wouldn't be fun, and we still have Afghanistan to fight.

Economy - South Korea is the 15th biggest economy in the world, a lot of that tied up in Seoul.  North Korea has been rather obvious in making it known that their first strike would obliterate Seoul.  Even if, as claimed earlier (which I disagree with), 90% of the artillery pieces failed, that 10% would wreck Seoul.  The humanitarian crisis because of so many displaced people would ruin the economy there.  Let's not even begin to cover cost.

Goal:  We can either nation-build (bad at it) a country with almost zero infrastructure, agriculture and technology, abandon it to a new crisis between South Korea and China over land/border disputes, or give it back "Iraq Style" and watch as the military and aristocracy there fight it out and leave it relatively as bad as before.

All that said, keep on waving those flags and acting like it won't be a big deal, or that they are just super inept.  Someone would have to be out there in the shiat, though, and I don't think many people, if any, are willing to volunteer.


Uh, the North only has about 20 gun positions that have the range to even reach the outskirts of Seoul. Those encampments would be destroyed in minutes if they fired thanks to the advanced counter-battery system the South and the US have in place in the DMZ.

Most of those guns are either short ranged, <25km artillery cannon, or fakes.

While I understand your point, you have a fundamental misunderstanding of the geopolitical state between the North and China, as well as the North and South.
 
2013-03-07 09:49:48 PM  
Havent read the whole thread, has this been postet yet?

media.animevice.com
 
2013-03-07 09:50:05 PM  
Weaver95:

because the South koreans are sane.  the North Koreans are the f*cking zerg.

More like the Human Hive, but that's beside the point.  The South Koreans have been spending just as much money on getting ready for war as the Norks, with the benefit of their major patron not going belly-up in 1991.  Expect something akin to the first year of Operation Barbarossa if the two ever go to war.  The North may have millions of men, but the South has millions of bullets.
 
2013-03-07 09:50:06 PM  

Lt. Cheese Weasel: neofonz: Why it wasn't resolved 60 years ago

[i7.photobucket.com image 480x360]
'Say IT!!  SAY IT!!!'


All right, I'll say it!!

Because Truman was too much of a pussy-wimp to let MacArthur go in there and blow out those commie bastards!!!
 
2013-03-07 09:50:17 PM  

cptjeff: plumbicon: Is it time for some landscaping around the "Dear Comrade's"  palace?

Maybe like a glass parking lot?

Seriously, though, we know where their good stuff is, and a few JDAMs would probably do the trick.
The worst part is that the citizens who worship this ninny are the ones who'll suffer.

The problem is that the Best Koreans can lob a nuke or two at Seoul before our missiles get there.


I wouldn't bet on that.

/dad was missile electronics, I was an oxymoron my last 3 years active
 
2013-03-07 09:50:33 PM  
Could be pretty awesome: already one autocratic thug down this week, Kim Jong Un could be next.
 
2013-03-07 09:51:00 PM  

Weaver95: neongoats:
Uh, I like you and stuff. But we are still technically at war with Best Korea. There will be no congressional hand wringing about what to do about Korea.

are you at ALL familiar with the Republican party...?


Yes, of course, they are full on, hurp to the head derpmongers. But this is a situation where the constitutional powers are explicitly very clear and unambiguous. I know, they only get Jesus points for killing Muslims, but it's still a war, and unlike the Middle East, even Russia and China are facepalming over the Nork behaviour.
 
2013-03-07 09:51:23 PM  

Wanebo: AnythingBacon: The last thing in the world we'll do is drop a nuke, even in retaliation.

After having visited Hiroshima and Nagasaki I'd have to say your statement is one of the most stupid statements I have ever encountered in my life. The possibility of politicians and statesmen doing the impossible is legendary and gruesome.

Are you really that bereft of sense?


That's exactly why we wouldn't. When those were launched we had very little intel in long term effects of that brutal device. Politicians only know one thing anymore, CYA. They face too many ramifications and penalties both here and internationally to risk nukes as anything but a last resort. Regardless, we have better and more efficient devices and tactics now with critical knowledge on how to actually use them.

Nukes aren't a one and done anymore... Mostly kept to ensure mutually assured destruction.

/Slashies
 
2013-03-07 09:51:27 PM  

Non-evil Monkey: If it comes to shooting, China will either sit on the sidelines (after making it abundantly clear that American and South Korean troops are not to cross their border under any circumstances) or simply invade North Korea themselves since if it's going to happen anyways. they might as well do it on their own terms. The mere fact they voted for the sanctions instead of vetoing it tells us that it's pretty much a forgone conclusion that they will not back North Korea should they start another war.


It would be fairly obvious that the sanctions would go through with overwhelming support, so China voting for them or not wouldn't have changed anything, and them voting for it serves to convince people China isn't working with the same script as NK, which would be a good ruse if they in fact are.

I personally think China and NK, along with other countries, are all plotting something against the US. And they won't make it obvious until the very last moment.
 
2013-03-07 09:51:41 PM  

chewd: [img836.imageshack.us image 500x330]

[img199.imageshack.us image 700x467]

Uh oh!


Paper beats rock...

www.esquire.com
 
2013-03-07 09:52:20 PM  

WTF Indeed: Also, DAMMIT Bathia_Mapes!

/thanks


You're welcome. :-)
 
2013-03-07 09:52:26 PM  

Contrabulous Flabtraption: MASH is overrated. I'll laugh tho if dennis rodman ends up the catalyst of ww3


The value of his rookie card will skyrocket!
 
2013-03-07 09:52:37 PM  

Omahawg: make me some tea: seadoo2006: So, answer me this: Has Best Korea significantly improved their rocket technology from what I can buy at the hobby shop, or are they still dropping ICBMs into the ocean 3 miles from launch?

Apparently they did actually launch a multi-staged rocket and achieved orbit just recently. Unless I missed the part about it not being true.

The U.S. also has an anti-ICBM system in place. Hopefully it works well enough. The greater threat is us being pulled into a land war to defend South Korea.

nah, America would never be so dumb to get involved in a land war in asia after vietnam. we learned our lesson! right? RIGHT!?!?!?


The people of Afghanistan would like a word ;)  :P
 
2013-03-07 09:53:44 PM  
Hey, L'il Kim, Obama had Navy SEALs take out Osama after he won a Nobel Peace Prize. That's right, he's having annoying assholes shot when he's in a good mood. Trust us, you don't want to make him angry. You wouldn't like it when he's angry.
 
2013-03-07 09:54:21 PM  
 
2013-03-07 09:54:29 PM  
WTF, they look like they could blow their own heads off if a stray hand or cuff drops down and pulls the trigger

www.abc.net.au

Assuming those are real guns, and not the wooden guns I hear many of them are equipped with

/nice hats tho
 
2013-03-07 09:55:31 PM  

Carth: Thanks! Pictures of ponies and old blog posts! How about we talk about more recent reports like FAS report on North Korean nuclear capabilities, the IISS report on their chemical and biological weapons and the US's own North Korea South Korea war scenario?


/spoiler US wins but tens of millions of people die


The report you linked to basically says North Korea has the technology that the US had Pre-trinity shot in 1945, and no way to deliver it. Fantasies about loading them in container ships on sucide runs are just that. For comparison, Trinity shot was 20kT. All of the missile systems that the NKs use are based on the SCUD-D platform, which the Patriot Theatre ABM System, CURRENTLY deployed in theatre, has a 99.5% kill rate with, as well as the AEGIS C&C system deployed on US ships using the SM-3 missile platform.

Sorry. I fail to be afraid of what is basically the same pitty posturing that dear leader dad did before him.

The Chinese are not going to help Kimmy either. They have far more to lose by a war in NK, than they do to gain.
 
2013-03-07 09:56:05 PM  

Wanebo: AnythingBacon: The last thing in the world we'll do is drop a nuke, even in retaliation.

After having visited Hiroshima and Nagasaki I'd have to say your statement is one of the most stupid statements I have ever encountered in my life. The possibility of politicians and statesmen doing the impossible is legendary and gruesome.

Are you really that bereft of sense?


As a kid I was captivated by a framed picture my dad had of Nagasaki after the bombing. Years down the road my dad had an opportunity to meet a couple of the crew members and they autographed it. To meet the hands that unleashed this power AND get them to sign the photo would be farking awesome.
 
2013-03-07 09:56:15 PM  
"Kim Jong Un slipped while dunking basketball today and broke he neck. Not know how happened. So sorry. Can we have pearl necklace now?"
 
2013-03-07 09:56:23 PM  

lack of warmth: Lenny_da_Hog: On the bright side, M*A*S*H was a great series. It could use a sequel.

I am a big fan of MASH, and I wonder what Alda would say right now.  When he took over, the show got all anti-war feel about it.  Is he ticked that after all this time the war was never really over and it may heat up again?

It does seem weird to take up arms again over the same issues when the men that fought it the first time are passing away of old age.  I had a coworker who was infantry during the last fight with NK, barely got a word from him about it.  His obit. said more about his service.  He passed away getting close to two years ago.


MASH took place in Korea, and was set during the Korean War, but it was really about Vietnam. Vietnam was still too recent and painful to discuss very openly.
 
2013-03-07 09:56:28 PM  

NewportBarGuy: $20 says if they go for a first strike 90% of their fixed artillery explodes trying to send off the first round.


That's kind of what I'm thinking.

We (the US) must know where most of their artillery is and we could probably take 90% of it out in a first strike even if NK's artillery even still works.

Their missiles don't really work very well and even if they could deliver a nuke, are they really that crazy? I guess they might have a chance of hitting Seoul, but setting off a nuke that close to your own border is bound to have negative side effects.

I'd give them a 20% chance of hitting Japan with a nuke, but why should NK hit Japan? Japan is not a threat to them. They know Japan is an ally of the US. That would only be signing their own death warrant. Are they still upset about the whole comfort women thing? Hey, the Japanese did horrible things to US servicemen during WWII but we've kissed and made up and they're not like that anymore.

Someone should really read "The Boy Who Cried Wolf" to Kim Jong Un. I'm really not interested in any
"threats" coming from North Korea. We'eve heard it before. (and besides, I live well outside the range of any NK missiles).
 
2013-03-07 09:57:37 PM  

Bontesla: I'm growing bored of this little crazy baby man. When can we replace him?


I have to wonder if we've ever gently nudged China and said "Hey, uh...if you wanted to oust the Kims and replace them with a new puppet state, that'd be OK with us..."
 
2013-03-07 09:57:48 PM  
All I have to say is this better not interfere with the launch of the Samsung Galaxy S IV.
 
2013-03-07 09:58:00 PM  

Zeno-25: [images3.wikia.nocookie.net image 478x358]

This is just a hissy fit over the latest rounds of sanctions that was unanimously approved by the UN Security Council today.



QFT!
 
2013-03-07 09:58:08 PM  

WeenerGord: WTF, they look like they could blow their own heads off if a stray hand or cuff drops down and pulls the trigger

[www.abc.net.au image 700x467]

Assuming those are real guns, and not the wooden guns I hear many of them are equipped with

/nice hats tho


Those wooden bullets double as their dinner rations for tonight.
 
2013-03-07 09:58:15 PM  

bdub77: "Kim Jong Un slipped while dunking basketball today and broke he neck. Not know how happened. So sorry. Can we have pearl necklace now?"


Get these men some Coke's STAT
 
2013-03-07 09:58:24 PM  

WeenerGord: WTF, they look like they could blow their own heads off if a stray hand or cuff drops down and pulls the trigger

[www.abc.net.au image 700x467]

Assuming those are real guns, and not the wooden guns I hear many of them are equipped with

/nice hats tho


Do you want to be corrected here, or shall we skip it?
 
2013-03-07 09:58:48 PM  
Humm ,makes me think of " the mouse that roared".
And MASH is on TV Land.
 
2013-03-07 09:59:46 PM  

Wanebo: AnythingBacon: The last thing in the world we'll do is drop a nuke, even in retaliation.

After having visited Hiroshima and Nagasaki I'd have to say your statement is one of the most stupid statements I have ever encountered in my life. The possibility of politicians and statesmen doing the impossible is legendary and gruesome.

Are you really that bereft of sense?


Oh goodie. I love World War II historical revisionism/negationism.

Since you want to compare the unthinkable, would  you like to also present the fact that a land invasion would have continued the war for at least a year, cost hundreds of thousands if not million+ Allied soldiers as well as Japanese people, and could have forseeably resulted in the genocide of the Japanese people?

It was two horrible options. Truman had to choose the lesser of two evils.
 
2013-03-07 09:59:50 PM  

hardinparamedic: The Chinese are not going to help Kimmy either. They have far more to lose by a war in NK, than they do to gain.


I was amazed to look at the Chinese casualties during the Korean War (Korean War ITM); they had more casualties than the US had in WWII
 
2013-03-07 09:59:54 PM  
Regarding this video that NK supposedly released, is that some Taepodong missle?

Because it looks like some Taepobuttplug missle.
 
2013-03-07 10:00:37 PM  

Weaver95: by the time we got our troops in theatre enough to do anything effective, we'd have lost most of south korea, if not all of it. there's even a chance the Norks could hit Japan. for extra giggles, NK could rack off some rounds at Taiwan.



Uh, what? South Korea has quite the capable military. Zerg rushes are one thing, the logistics of supply lines are another. To give some idea as to how modern the SK military is, their navy has ships equipped with the Aegis system (along with Japan and South Korea). SK also has mandatory two-year conscription, 640,000 active personnel and  nearly three million reserves.

The South could win a war on their own without international help. It'd be ugly, but the North doesn't have the economy to win a drawn-out major conventional war no matter how much surprise or luck are on their side. Several treaties would preclude this from happening though, for better or worse.
 
2013-03-07 10:01:16 PM  

Wanebo: AnythingBacon: The last thing in the world we'll do is drop a nuke, even in retaliation.

After having visited Hiroshima and Nagasaki I'd have to say your statement is one of the most stupid statements I have ever encountered in my life.


Visiting Hiroshima doesn't give you any more expertise on the issue than anyone else, and it isn't stupid; you're being hyperbolic.

Is it possible?  Yeah, but I don't think it is likely, in part because of Hiroshima.  Everyone knows how horrendous those things are, and we've developed a bunch of alternatives for exactly that reason.  They don't only hurt the people you drop them on.  They're the most ham-fisted military instrument in the arsenal and they come with a huge number of social and diplomatic repercussions.  They exist now almost solely as deterrents via MAD.  If someone is ACTUALLY stupid enough to launch a nuclear attack, nukes have already failed at their primary purpose and unless the country launching them actually has enough nuclear capability to significantly damage our ability to retaliate (and NK certainly doesn't), I really don't think we're going to push the button.  We will retaliate quickly, however, and with overwhelming force.
 
2013-03-07 10:02:09 PM  

uber humper: was amazed to look at the Chinese casualties during the Korean War (Korean War ITM); they had more casualties than the US had in WWII


Yeah. But that was during the time of Pax Communista. Mao isn't in charge any more, and they're more hungry for the US Dollar than the capitalist pigs they despite are.

The simple fact of the matter is that loss of international trade from the Allied nations involved in the Korean armistace would be devistating to the Chinese Economy. In addition, the flood of Northern refugees into China, already dealing with crippling poverty in much of it's rural population, would cause immense damage economically and politically.
 
2013-03-07 10:03:22 PM  

Zeno-25: South Korea has quite the capable military.


Not only that, every neighborhood has a command and control structure in case of invasion. They never forgot what happened to them. They are more prepared than any country in the world.
 
2013-03-07 10:04:10 PM  

Gawdzila: JasonOfOrillia: Until NK attacks then the ceasefire is still tacitly in place.  The rest of the world should shock the hell out of them and pre-emptively attack.  That farce of a nation has existed for too long and the oppression of its people is a blight on the face of humanity.

Yes, we should free them from oppression by blowing them up, right?


Not the people, just the leaders.


Bung_Howdy: FTFA: "A foreign ministry spokesman warned a second Korean war was "unavoidable", because the US and South Korea had refused to cancel their joint military exercise."

FTOFA:"North Korea vows nuclear attack on US, saying Washington will be 'engulfed in a sea of fire'"



Object entering our patrol range.  Approaching the sea of fire.
Bring it through safely.  Land it.
 
2013-03-07 10:04:36 PM  

Gawdzila: Wanebo: AnythingBacon: The last thing in the world we'll do is drop a nuke, even in retaliation.

After having visited Hiroshima and Nagasaki I'd have to say your statement is one of the most stupid statements I have ever encountered in my life.

Visiting Hiroshima doesn't give you any more expertise on the issue than anyone else, and it isn't stupid; you're being hyperbolic.

Is it possible?  Yeah, but I don't think it is likely, in part because of Hiroshima.  Everyone knows how horrendous those things are, and we've developed a bunch of alternatives for exactly that reason.  They don't only hurt the people you drop them on.  They're the most ham-fisted military instrument in the arsenal and they come with a huge number of social and diplomatic repercussions.  They exist now almost solely as deterrents via MAD.  If someone is ACTUALLY stupid enough to launch a nuclear attack, nukes have already failed at their primary purpose and unless the country launching them actually has enough nuclear capability to significantly damage our ability to retaliate (and NK certainly doesn't), I really don't think we're going to push the button.  We will retaliate quickly, however, and with overwhelming force.


This
 
2013-03-07 10:04:38 PM  

BorgiaGinz: Tellurium: Please nuke Washington. A fresh start is about the best thing we can expect from that place anymore.

On behalf of of all us who live with our families in the Metro DC area, go fark yourself.


Thank you.
 
2013-03-07 10:04:40 PM  

Lost Thought 00: Unless NK manages to phase through the DMZ, it's impossible to not involve us


Just because there's some US soldiers there doesn't mean there will be immediate revenge taken upon whoever kills them. They'll be called "heroes who bravely gave their lives defending freedom". Medals and flags will be given to their next of kin. Maybe there will be a TV special. Then it's just a brief note in the history books.
 
2013-03-07 10:04:48 PM  
It is just a matter of time before the norks seal themselves in their underground tunnels.
 
2013-03-07 10:05:19 PM  

doyner: Sure, a bunch of Worst Koreans would die, along with a bunch of Americans, but Best Korea must know that they would be obliterated in no time if they pulled that shiat.  In the process, China would be flooded with refugees it doesn't want.

If they have an ounce of rationality, this is merely bluster.  If not, it will be an ugly war ending with the obliteration of Best Korea in relatively short order.

Make no mistake about the South Koreans.  They can be brutal too.  See: Vietnam.


no shiat! When I was in LA the Korean thugs was quite intimidating and I've been to East St. Louis plenty time. I would rather take on black thugs than korean gangsters.
 
2013-03-07 10:05:26 PM  
Wow, drones just got a little more popular all of a sudden I see.
 
2013-03-07 10:05:45 PM  
I wonder how much money Apple is dumping into North Korea to prompt this
 
2013-03-07 10:05:47 PM  
trageser.com

I always thought this would make a good movie.
 
2013-03-07 10:06:51 PM  

hardinparamedic: uber humper: was amazed to look at the Chinese casualties during the Korean War (Korean War ITM); they had more casualties than the US had in WWII

Yeah. But that was during the time of Pax Communista. Mao isn't in charge any more, and they're more hungry for the US Dollar than the capitalist pigs they despite are.

The simple fact of the matter is that loss of international trade from the Allied nations involved in the Korean armistace would be devistating to the Chinese Economy. In addition, the flood of Northern refugees into China, already dealing with crippling poverty in much of it's rural population, would cause immense damage economically and politically.


I totally agree. Even if, they would actually use strategy and tactics this time around, other than throwing  walls of meat.

China probably wants nothing to change, keeping the status quo so that they don't end up with a pro US government on their border.
 
2013-03-07 10:07:15 PM  
i2.cdn.turner.com
Here's a bunch of people who have no idea what they're in for.
 
2013-03-07 10:07:21 PM  
North Korea has announced it is voiding non-aggression pacts with South Korea and severing its hotline with Seoul, hours after threatening the US with a pre-emptive nuclear strike.

/Hahahahahhahahha....saber rattling at its best. They KNOW if they did that, their country would be turned into a slag heap. Whatever, keep stroking your sub standard pecker.
 
2013-03-07 10:08:00 PM  

Zeno-25: Weaver95: by the time we got our troops in theatre enough to do anything effective, we'd have lost most of south korea, if not all of it. there's even a chance the Norks could hit Japan. for extra giggles, NK could rack off some rounds at Taiwan.


Uh, what? South Korea has quite the capable military. Zerg rushes are one thing, the logistics of supply lines are another. To give some idea as to how modern the SK military is, their navy has ships equipped with the Aegis system (along with Japan and South Korea). SK also has mandatory two-year conscription, 640,000 active personnel and  nearly three million reserves.

The South could win a war on their own without international help. It'd be ugly, but the North doesn't have the economy to win a drawn-out major conventional war no matter how much surprise or luck are on their side. Several treaties would preclude this from happening though, for better or worse.


A lot of this. SK isn't stupid, and they aren't some little US protectorate with no military of their own. That are a born-in-the-cold war era western style nation that's lived in the shadow of NK, China, and Russia. They have a BIG, capable, modern military filled with people who know an all out war to the death could appear at any moment, right in the heart of their homeland.

Love you SK, love your BBQ, love your gadgets and I even like your cars, but fark fermented cabbage, wtf.
 
2013-03-07 10:08:45 PM  

JPINFV: [trageser.com image 160x258]

I always thought this would make a good movie.


Dragon Strike, too. http://www.amazon.com/Dragon-Strike-Coming-History-ebook/dp/B003YXXL8 S
 
2013-03-07 10:09:54 PM  

J. Frank Parnell: Lost Thought 00: Unless NK manages to phase through the DMZ, it's impossible to not involve us

Just because there's some US soldiers there doesn't mean there will be immediate revenge taken upon whoever kills them. They'll be called "heroes who bravely gave their lives defending freedom". Medals and flags will be given to their next of kin. Maybe there will be a TV special. Then it's just a brief note in the history books.


Uh huh. 30,000 deaths of US citizens, and no response? In this day and age, where we freak out over a single IED? Keep smoking
 
2013-03-07 10:10:21 PM  

Mitch Taylor's Bro: Dear Afghanistan,

It was fun while it lasted, but we have an appointment on the other side of the world

China, so we really must be going.

L8rz,
USA


Fixed.
We "just" need flyover rights from China.

/not advocating a war
//war is hell
 
2013-03-07 10:11:19 PM  
Lil Kim just got dealt these and wants to step up the game:

farm4.staticflickr.com farm4.staticflickr.com
 
2013-03-07 10:11:37 PM  

WeenerGord: WTF, they look like they could blow their own heads off if a stray hand or cuff drops down and pulls the trigger

[www.abc.net.au image 700x467]

Assuming those are real guns, and not the wooden guns I hear many of them are equipped with

/nice hats tho


Hard to shoot your own head off without the magazine, that you're currently loading, actually attached.
 
2013-03-07 10:12:39 PM  

tinyarena: [i2.cdn.turner.com image 250x250]
Here's a bunch of people who have no idea what they're in for.


Look at that pudgy little fark next to those poor almost skeletal guys. I think that's what stuck in my craw most about that idiot f*ck Rodman. You're enjoying a feast with that fat f*ck despot while his starving people eat their own dead children. And you talk about what a swell guy he is.
 
2013-03-07 10:12:57 PM  

WTF Indeed: To be fair, this does mean the South can kill North Korean leadership whenever they want since they are legally back to open war.


The problem with this is that North Korea has a shiat ton of artillery they can bomb the South with, and it appears they would have no problem responding to any act of aggression.  They would be holy-shiat-bombed-into-oblivion soon after, but they would still make a mess of the South.
 
2013-03-07 10:12:59 PM  

pxlboy: Old_Chief_Scott: cc_rider: Oh yeah, that'll show 'em.

I feel bad for the starving North Koreans who don't give a shiat about any of this. May this horrible regime collapse peacefully and soon-ish

I recently came across a video of a train in North Korea ( I am something of a train enthusiast and you know how that youtube shiat goes, one thing lead to another etc).  It is a steam locomotive. An old steam locomotive. And for fuel it is burning old rubber tires as it trundles through an absolutely barren landscape.

Sad.

North Best Korea is incapable of sustained conflict.

The country has resources, but they're not available to the populace at large. The obscene luxury in which the party and its cronies live will eventually end -- and badly.

Until then, it is as many have observed: more attention whoring and saber rattling.


Yep. It's not really a matter of "if", but "when".  I can only hope it ends with little or no bloodshed.
 
2013-03-07 10:14:00 PM  
Oh.  Great.  Looks like we'll be able to put that fancy new Distinguished Warfare Medal to good use.

(500 Gamerscore to whoever nails Un!)
 
2013-03-07 10:14:35 PM  
Why do people initially jump to blowing the place off the map? Then what? Have 10 million or so pissed off survivors with nowhere to go but S. Korea or China?

If we just started a campaign of dropping food, long range communication devices, portable DVD players, S. Korean magazines, movies, etc... it'd probably do a lot more to disrupt the suppressed culture up there. Label everything as being from your S. Korean and American friends and just wait. Information is more powerful, and it's something these people sorely lack. Look at what happened to China when things opened up.
 
2013-03-07 10:15:26 PM  

Lost Thought 00: Uh huh. 30,000 deaths of US citizens, and no response? In this day and age, where we freak out over a single IED? Keep smoking


Often large numbers of troops are sent to their deaths just to bluff the enemy. Military strategy is cold, and every move is calculated with zero emotion. No place for revenge. Keep watching movies.
 
2013-03-07 10:16:08 PM  

Aigoo: cptjeff: plumbicon: Is it time for some landscaping around the "Dear Comrade's"  palace?

Maybe like a glass parking lot?

Seriously, though, we know where their good stuff is, and a few JDAMs would probably do the trick.
The worst part is that the citizens who worship this ninny are the ones who'll suffer.

The problem is that the Best Koreans can lob a nuke or two at Seoul before our missiles get there.

I wouldn't bet on that.

/dad was missile electronics, I was an oxymoron my last 3 years active


Military Intelligence?
 
2013-03-07 10:16:15 PM  

blipponaut: If we just started a campaign of dropping food, long range communication devices, portable DVD players, S. Korean magazines, movies, etc... it'd probably do a lot more to disrupt the suppressed culture up there. Label everything as being from your S. Korean and American friends and just wait. Information is more powerful, and it's something these people sorely lack. Look at what happened to China when things opened up.


Because N. Korea would just let you do that.
 
2013-03-07 10:16:49 PM  

Lost Thought 00: J. Frank Parnell: Lost Thought 00: Unless NK manages to phase through the DMZ, it's impossible to not involve us

Just because there's some US soldiers there doesn't mean there will be immediate revenge taken upon whoever kills them. They'll be called "heroes who bravely gave their lives defending freedom". Medals and flags will be given to their next of kin. Maybe there will be a TV special. Then it's just a brief note in the history books.

Uh huh. 30,000 deaths of US citizens, and no response? In this day and age, where we freak out over a single IED? Keep smoking


Are you kidding? The GOP goes on a derp frenzy over not knowing exactly how an ambassador died 20 minutes after an incident. 30,000 deaths? The feces will be flung with such velocity it could knock the planet off it's orbit.
 
2013-03-07 10:17:08 PM  

J. Frank Parnell: Lost Thought 00: Uh huh. 30,000 deaths of US citizens, and no response? In this day and age, where we freak out over a single IED? Keep smoking

Often large numbers of troops are sent to their deaths just to bluff the enemy. Military strategy is cold, and every move is calculated with zero emotion. No place for revenge. Keep watching movies.


Did you last study strategy in 1875?
 
2013-03-07 10:17:11 PM  

Non-evil Monkey: If it comes to shooting, China will either sit on the sidelines (after making it abundantly clear that American and South Korean troops are not to cross their border under any circumstances) or simply invade North Korea themselves since if it's going to happen anyways. they might as well do it on their own terms.  The mere fact they voted for the sanctions instead of vetoing it tells us that it's pretty much a forgone conclusion that they will not back North Korea should they start another war.


Of course as always with North Korea, this could just be another case of a day ending in "y",  any Farkers know if have they ever explicitly shredded the ceasefire agreement before?


Explicitly? No. Not that I am aware of. Not unless you count the various actions over the years (including the so-called "Second Korean War" between 1966 and 1969) that have been a bit of saber rattling, often from both sides. In 1994, there was some concern that the situation was becoming heated enough under Kim Jong-Il that there might be action, but Kim backed down (as usual). In the mid 90's, again, there was strong rhetoric, but again, Kim backed down.

This is the first time that I am aware of that North Korea has abrogated the truce.

Technically, the two nations have been at war since the 50's, since it is a cease-fire/truce, and not a peace treaty. So it's less a matter of "starting" a war than it is "continuing" one that's been ongoing for about 60 years. This Kim is young--and too stupid to know when to take the cotton out of his ears and stick it in his mouth. His father was a moron, too, but he had the good sense to know when to STFU and go sit in a corner before he pissed anyone off too much. This joker doesn't, and now he's pissed off China--not a good idea. I suspect either the DPRK will soon either be a Chinese territory or the Chinese will quietly agree to stand aside while the US or South Korea does whatever needs done in the event of an attack, then afterwards, China will register a strongly worded but non-binding protest about it as Korea becomes a single country. Alternately, China will tell this kid to STFU and go watch some damn basketball while the grownups talk.
 
2013-03-07 10:17:18 PM  
hawcian:
The stone age would be an improvement for some of the country.

QFT.  NK is one of the few places that could be nuked forward into the stone age.
 
2013-03-07 10:17:57 PM  
The flaw in this thread and most like it is that the average farker/American thinks Lil Kim cares about the avg Best Korean grunt or their families let alone the average BK citizen LOLOL
I am quite sure he woudn't  even shed half a tear if 10 million Norks die in a fiery death from SK or American bombs.
 
2013-03-07 10:18:05 PM  
See, the thing is. They might be hoping the US freaks out over any of their soldiers killed in the DMZ, which is exactly why you don't react to things like that so predictably.
 
2013-03-07 10:19:33 PM  
military technology
?
US companies sell them military technology ?  WTF is THAT all about?

BTW do you really think the kid is running the show at this point?

Sanctions (as far as I've read) are what started the Pacific War Theater.  No oil imports with winter coming on and that sort of thing.
 
2013-03-07 10:19:38 PM  

ShawnDoc: blipponaut: If we just started a campaign of dropping food, long range communication devices, portable DVD players, S. Korean magazines, movies, etc... it'd probably do a lot more to disrupt the suppressed culture up there. Label everything as being from your S. Korean and American friends and just wait. Information is more powerful, and it's something these people sorely lack. Look at what happened to China when things opened up.

Because N. Korea would just let you do that.


You drop them in areas with minimal military coverage. Fly high and have little to worry about.
 
2013-03-07 10:20:04 PM  

Lost Thought 00: Did you last study strategy in 1875?


You probably believe the invasion of Iraq was revenge for 9/11.

/just like you're supposed to
 
2013-03-07 10:20:38 PM  

J. Frank Parnell: Non-evil Monkey: If it comes to shooting, China will either sit on the sidelines (after making it abundantly clear that American and South Korean troops are not to cross their border under any circumstances) or simply invade North Korea themselves since if it's going to happen anyways. they might as well do it on their own terms. The mere fact they voted for the sanctions instead of vetoing it tells us that it's pretty much a forgone conclusion that they will not back North Korea should they start another war.

It would be fairly obvious that the sanctions would go through with overwhelming support, so China voting for them or not wouldn't have changed anything, and them voting for it serves to convince people China isn't working with the same script as NK, which would be a good ruse if they in fact are.

I personally think China and NK, along with other countries, are all plotting something against the US. And they won't make it obvious until the very last moment.


guudamn man! not everyone in this world are like that.. stop being such a paranoid Tea Partier who thinks everyone is out to getcha!!
 
2013-03-07 10:23:06 PM  
4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-03-07 10:23:13 PM  

blipponaut: You drop them in areas with minimal military coverage. Fly high and have little to worry about.


This is how we know you have no idea what you're talking about.
Someone gets caught with anything from outside~ they, and everyone in their family/apartment building goes straight to the camp. Do not pass go. Do not collect $200. They turn in family members and friends over a bowl of soup. Over a rumor. Information is powerful. And it is used for a loaf of bread.
 
2013-03-07 10:23:24 PM  

cbathrob: Aigoo: cptjeff: plumbicon: Is it time for some landscaping around the "Dear Comrade's"  palace?

Maybe like a glass parking lot?

Seriously, though, we know where their good stuff is, and a few JDAMs would probably do the trick.
The worst part is that the citizens who worship this ninny are the ones who'll suffer.

The problem is that the Best Koreans can lob a nuke or two at Seoul before our missiles get there.

I wouldn't bet on that.

/dad was missile electronics, I was an oxymoron my last 3 years active

Military Intelligence?


:)
 
2013-03-07 10:23:36 PM  

seadoo2006: Ooooh, yay, another full-scale ground war the US is going to be in ... is this a repeat from the 1950s?


Actually it'll be different.  That war lasted 3 years, (if there is one) this one will last 3 minutes.

Also:  If China backed this, even they've had enough of Best Korea's shiat.
 
2013-03-07 10:24:52 PM  

SuperNinjaToad: The flaw in this thread and most like it is that the average farker/American thinks Lil Kim cares about the avg Best Korean grunt or their families let alone the average BK citizen LOLOL
I am quite sure he woudn't  even shed half a tear if 10 million Norks die in a fiery death from SK or American bombs.


just out of curiosity, where do you get your NK Information?
 
2013-03-07 10:25:07 PM  

SuperNinjaToad: guudamn man! not everyone in this world are like that.. stop being such a paranoid Tea Partier who thinks everyone is out to getcha!!


You should see his flouride conspiracy posts.  Here's a hint; he's either a crazy idiot or a troll.
 
2013-03-07 10:25:50 PM  
With the aggression all official again, couldn't we just scoot a sniper team in there and take the guy out?
I know we don't do assasinations, but that restriction gets lifted when we're at war.

NK is one of the few places where the "cutting off the head" garbage would actually work.
 
2013-03-07 10:26:17 PM  
Starting to think now meeting Rodman was Kim's Make A Wish before he dies in a blaze of nuclear glory.
 
2013-03-07 10:26:27 PM  

SN1987a goes boom: [encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com image 261x193]

If China doesn't support them (and come on, who would they rather lose their biggest trading partner or constant shiat-stirrers?), then the potential war will last all of 5 farking seconds.


I heard it would be an hour and a half from nooooowwww..
 
2013-03-07 10:26:38 PM  

leevis: The food shortage must be pretty bad this time.


It is late late winter. This would be the time of year when famine would be most acute. Things are just about to start growing again.
 
2013-03-07 10:28:16 PM  
i.imgur.com

Oh for Fark's sake, first Las Pegasus implodes, now the next big con has to be held in the smoldering crater and involves everyone LARPing to Fallout:Equestria. This is the WORST. POSSIBLE. THING. But seriously, folks, what's going to happen is this:

1) Not a shot will be fired.
2) Just because the nonaggression pact's over (at least until Un changes his mind) doesn't require Un to attack.
3) The general rule is that even if you're batshiat crazy enough to start a "preemptive" nuclear war, you just do it, and you certainly don't telegraph your intentions by making your attack contingent on your adversary's cancellation of routine military exercises on March 11th.

i.imgur.com

4) Here's what I was originally going to use before this thread went full pony, except that Rodman was going to be the thin man that would have been a wasteful fizzle, and then an actual thin man showed up in the first GIS result. "Thanks, Rodman."
 
2013-03-07 10:28:30 PM  
Well, this is just great! Goddamn gasoline prices will raise again.
 
2013-03-07 10:28:50 PM  

desertfool: Un went full retard.

Never go full retard.


From this point forward full retard will be referred to as "full Un"
 
2013-03-07 10:30:59 PM  
nubian done went full retard.
 
2013-03-07 10:32:30 PM  
I look at it like this:  don't take North Korea's threat to lob a nuke at the USA lightly.  They did get a satellite into orbit.  As I said in the other thread, all they need to do is lob one in a sub-orbital trajectory and all parts of the United States could be farked.  It doesn't even need to have a nuclear warhead or be targeted at a specific target; just a conventional weapon or even a rocket that rains debris down would be enough to harm or kill people and get everybody here scared that death could rain down upon them at any time.

And should they detonate a nuke, hopefully we don't give into the temptation of firing off a few ICBMs or SLBMs.  A few conventional weapons on Pyongyang would do the trick.
 
2013-03-07 10:32:50 PM  

seadoo2006: So, answer me this: Has Best Korea significantly improved their rocket technology from what I can buy at the hobby shop, or are they still dropping ICBMs into the ocean 3 miles from launch?


That depends - does your hobby shop sell anything that can put a satellite into a polar orbit higher than that of the ISS?
 
2013-03-07 10:33:12 PM  

Marcintosh: military technology
? US companies sell them military technology ? WTF is THAT all about?

BTW do you really think the kid is running the show at this point?

Sanctions (as far as I've read) are what started the Pacific War Theater. No oil imports with winter coming on and that sort of thing.


Sanctions imposed as a direct result of the atrocities commited by the Japanese in the Far East, including the Rape of Nanking. Ignoring the fact that the Imperial Japanese Army had been aquiring Liebensbaum for the better half of the 20th century in Asia up until that point, and raping and murdering their way through China, Korea, and every island they could get their hands on.

Please, don't drink the Historical Revisionist Kool-Aid. The Japanese were not the victims.
 
2013-03-07 10:33:42 PM  

davidphogan: Lost Thought 00: Looks like the little tyke thinks he needs a military conflict to cement his power. We do need to wait for them to make the first move, so we have enough authority to completely wipe them out, instead of being stuck with half-measures

I wonder how much of this is a response to outside efforts (real or imagined) to destabilize the government in a transitional period.

That or he's dumber and crazier than his Dad ever was.


Couple of other possibilities:

- Un is just a puppet at this point for other senior military hardliners who are actually making these decisions.

- Un is doing the one making these decisions, but he's doing it to gain the trust and loyalty of those senior military hardliners, who may mistrust the kid with the Swiss education and love for certain aspects of Western culture (like Dennis Rodman and the Chicago Bulls).
 
2013-03-07 10:33:54 PM  

Weaver95: devildog123: Weaver95: devildog123:

I'm thinking we're good.

And yet, i'm thinking we're not.

Seriously, if Un had his troops crossed the border tomorrow, or even in the next few months, what part of the sequester would effect our response?  Most of our combat troops at this point are actually combat veterans, and I doubt they're going to forget how to fight in the next few months, even if all they did was lay around at home and drink beer (which, I promise you, they aren't doing).  Do you think they wouldn't bump up military funding if we had to go balls deep in Korea?  Would a war be good?  Of course not.  I'm just saying, we have the resources to handle it.  Only in your little mind are all our troops camped out in Israel, defending those evil zionists you hate so much.

by the time we got our troops in theatre enough to do anything effective, we'd have lost most of south korea, if not all of it.  there's even a chance the Norks could hit Japan.  for extra giggles, NK could rack off some rounds at Taiwan.  meanwhile, we'll spend time bogged down in debate about sequester cuts and who's gonna pay for the logistics requires to recall our reservists, get 'em combat ready and geared, then put them on the ground in theater.  forget about any sort of economic recover - not only did those spending cuts kick us in the nuts, we also just took a lot of reservists out of the economy and put 'em on the front lines.

then when we redeploy, Iran gets to ramp up their efforts to build a nuclear weapon.  Israel gets f*cking paranoid as hell and if we're not around to calm 'em down, they might decide to kick off WWIII in the middle east.

end result?  we get f*cked from both ends, the GOP blames Obama and our country implodes into economic instability and political chaos.


You've gone kind of senile in the past few years havent you?
 
2013-03-07 10:34:12 PM  

SurelyShirley: Mitch Taylor's Bro: Dear Afghanistan,

It was fun while it lasted, but we have an appointment on the other side of the worldChina, so we really must be going.

L8rz,
USA

Fixed.
We "just" need flyover rights from China.

/not advocating a war
//war is hell


I suck at teh such as maps :-(
 
2013-03-07 10:34:28 PM  
That's highly significant.
 
2013-03-07 10:35:07 PM  
My best guess on any worst case scenario is: Seoul gets flattened, North Korea gets defeated by a coalition of nations using conventional weapons (with us leading the way), with China ultimately abandoning crazy-ass North Korea due to global pressure. South Korea is in shambles with hundreds of thousands dead, North Korea is flattened (yet liberated) with hundreds of thousands dead, along with a vacuum in leadership and ensuing famine and misery amidst growing political tensions (with China peeing in our Coke as well as other, largely economic threats and/or retaliations). It would ultimately be death and misery in the region for years to come, and a tense ongoing China-US relationship.

static1.businessinsider.com

obligatory: "I say we nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure"
 
2013-03-07 10:35:17 PM  

bluorangefyre: look at it like this: don't take North Korea's threat to lob a nuke at the USA lightly. They did get a satellite into orbit. As I said in the other thread, all they need to do is lob one in a sub-orbital trajectory and all parts of the United States could be farked. It doesn't even need to have a nuclear warhead or be targeted at a specific target; just a conventional weapon or even a rocket that rains debris down would be enough to harm or kill people and get everybody here scared that death could rain down upon them at any time.

And should they detonate a nuke, hopefully we don't give into the temptation of firing off a few ICBMs or SLBMs. A few conventional weapons on Pyongyang would do the trick.


They do not have a functional nuclear weapon or a method to deploy them, and the United States has a global satelite network that has existed for 50 years with the express purpose of detecting nuclear launches.

There's a reason why every country warns the major nuclear players when they're launching a satelite.
 
2013-03-07 10:35:18 PM  
The North Korean leader told Rodman he did not want war and he wanted our President to call him. Now they do this.

This escalation of events has reached a point where we should not help them anymore. To do so would to provide aid, assistance and comfort to an enemy. No food or aid of any kind.

This is not going to turn out well!

This is going to be a major war. I think they are going to pull the trigger.

/really not having a good day
 
2013-03-07 10:35:25 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: You should see his flouride conspiracy posts.


I don't think i've spoken about that in years. But there's no conspiracy. Sodium fluoride is the primary and active ingredient in rat poison. Tubes of toothpaste have warnings about swallowing even small amounts of it. There's all kinds of evidence in plain view, the average person is just naive and stupid. A cover up isn't even needed. It's Darwinism in action.

/crazy like a fox!
 
2013-03-07 10:36:13 PM  

Weaver95: devildog123: Weaver95: devildog123:

I'm thinking we're good.

And yet, i'm thinking we're not.

Seriously, if Un had his troops crossed the border tomorrow, or even in the next few months, what part of the sequester would effect our response?  Most of our combat troops at this point are actually combat veterans, and I doubt they're going to forget how to fight in the next few months, even if all they did was lay around at home and drink beer (which, I promise you, they aren't doing).  Do you think they wouldn't bump up military funding if we had to go balls deep in Korea?  Would a war be good?  Of course not.  I'm just saying, we have the resources to handle it.  Only in your little mind are all our troops camped out in Israel, defending those evil zionists you hate so much.

by the time we got our troops in theatre enough to do anything effective, we'd have lost most of south korea, if not all of it.  there's even a chance the Norks could hit Japan.  for extra giggles, NK could rack off some rounds at Taiwan.  meanwhile, we'll spend time bogged down in debate about sequester cuts and who's gonna pay for the logistics requires to recall our reservists, get 'em combat ready and geared, then put them on the ground in theater.  forget about any sort of economic recover - not only did those spending cuts kick us in the nuts, we also just took a lot of reservists out of the economy and put 'em on the front lines.


In China's mind, Taiwan's one of their provinces.  So if NK decides to fire off a few rounds at Taiwan, China might fire off a few nuclear warheads in response.
 
2013-03-07 10:36:16 PM  
Awww. They want to be visible from space at night like all the other countries.
 
2013-03-07 10:37:05 PM  
MY TWO CENTS:
hollywood-elsewhere.com
Remember this guy?
Boris Yeltsin, former President of Russia?
He blurted some vodak fueled rant, over an open mike, about "nuking" NATO
Less than two weeks later he "stepped down" unexpectedly and Putin was in.
There are just some things you never-never-never joke about, and a nuclear holocaust is at the top of that list. Lil'Kim is soon to be gone.
 
2013-03-07 10:37:10 PM  

Now That's What I Call a Taco!: - Un is just a puppet at this point for other senior military hardliners who are actually making these decisions.


I actually see this as likely versus him running the country at this point. The old guard generals never liked him in the first place, and there was talk of a coup while he was assuming power.

I think he's the same as Ahmadinajad at this point. A figurehead to keep the populace under the Juche ideals that made them the military state they are.
 
2013-03-07 10:38:06 PM  

J. Frank Parnell: Satanic_Hamster: You should see his flouride conspiracy posts.

I don't think i've spoken about that in years. But there's no conspiracy. Sodium fluoride is the primary and active ingredient in rat poison. Tubes of toothpaste have warnings about swallowing even small amounts of it. There's all kinds of evidence in plain view, the average person is just naive and stupid. A cover up isn't even needed. It's Darwinism in action.

/crazy like a fox!


Come to think of it, I've never seen a Commie drink a glass of water.
 
2013-03-07 10:38:23 PM  

J. Frank Parnell: I don't think i've spoken about that in years. But there's no conspiracy. Sodium fluoride is the primary and active ingredient in rat poison. Tubes of toothpaste have warnings about swallowing even small amounts of it. There's all kinds of evidence in plain view, the average person is just naive and stupid. A cover up isn't even needed. It's Darwinism in action.

/crazy like a fox!


You fail toxicology 1. No refund for your corresponance course.
 
2013-03-07 10:38:53 PM  

jnapier: [media1.policymic.com image 537x339]


Rule 18 from the "Action Officers Handbook" 'If you're going to use an image of an aircraft, use one that is relevant.'

The pic you posted is of a NY Air National Guard aircraft, based out of Syracuse. Probably not going to be use by the CIA in North Korea.

Here ya go. No markings:
buquad.com
 
2013-03-07 10:38:58 PM  
FAT KID FLIPS TABLE ON INTERNET

NEWS AT 11
 
2013-03-07 10:40:31 PM  

tinyarena: Lil'Kim is soon to be gone.


Did Kim Jong Un actually say any of this about nuking the US? I thought I read that it was an "anonymous" figure in the NK administration.
 
2013-03-07 10:40:46 PM  
well, crap.

25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-03-07 10:41:52 PM  
South Korea:
derpicdn.net
 
2013-03-07 10:42:41 PM  
Instead of Littoral Ships and useless tanks, we should have purchased these:

lparchive.org
 
2013-03-07 10:42:55 PM  

Zeno-25: Weaver95: by the time we got our troops in theatre enough to do anything effective, we'd have lost most of south korea, if not all of it. there's even a chance the Norks could hit Japan. for extra giggles, NK could rack off some rounds at Taiwan.


Uh, what? South Korea has quite the capable military. Zerg rushes are one thing, the logistics of supply lines are another. To give some idea as to how modern the SK military is, their navy has ships equipped with the Aegis system (along with Japan and South Korea). SK also has mandatory two-year conscription, 640,000 active personnel and  nearly three million reserves.

The South could win a war on their own without international help. It'd be ugly, but the North doesn't have the economy to win a drawn-out major conventional war no matter how much surprise or luck are on their side. Several treaties would preclude this from happening though, for better or worse.


The thing is:  Would the North be desperate enough that if things went badly, they started using WMD's?  If that's the case things will get ugly quick; won't last long however.
 
2013-03-07 10:44:29 PM  

yagottabefarkinkiddinme:
This is not going to turn out well!

This is going to be a major war. I think they are going to pull the trigger.

/really not having a good day


Unfortunately, I think you're right. Scary times we're living in right now.
 
2013-03-07 10:44:37 PM  
So this time around, it's going to be UN vs Un. This is going to be confusing.
 
2013-03-07 10:45:00 PM  

J. Frank Parnell: Satanic_Hamster: You should see his flouride conspiracy posts.

I don't think i've spoken about that in years. But there's no conspiracy. Sodium fluoride is the primary and active ingredient in rat poison. Tubes of toothpaste have warnings about swallowing even small amounts of it. There's all kinds of evidence in plain view, the average person is just naive and stupid. A cover up isn't even needed. It's Darwinism in action.

/crazy like a fox!


You deny women your essence, don't you?
 
2013-03-07 10:46:15 PM  
Keep it up Un, while Rodman didn't have its desired effect, wait until we "Snookie-Bomb" your pudgy arse....It will not be pretty...
 
2013-03-07 10:46:35 PM  

Owangotang: After that they will all start going ass to mouth



Cause that was about all they had to eat.
 
2013-03-07 10:47:36 PM  
No US sites carrying this story? Only BBC and linked Australian site?
 
2013-03-07 10:47:38 PM  

NewportBarGuy: $20 says if they go for a first strike 90% of their fixed artillery explodes trying to send off the first round.


Nah, any wealth in Best Korea goes to three places: to the Kim Jong family, to monuments dedicated to the Kim Jong family, and to the military. some of their hardware may be old, but it's well maintained. Besides, they've got enough long range artillery pointed at Seoul that they could level it in a day.
 
2013-03-07 10:47:46 PM  

MrHappyRotter: Similarly I've declared war with Norway.  Norway has 5 minutes to change its name or I'm going to refuse to acknowledge the international boundaries of Norway and I'm going to publicly release some fairly damning information about one of Norway's city-level internal middle managers.


Norway will never negotiate with terrorists.
 
2013-03-07 10:47:57 PM  

hardinparamedic: Marcintosh: military technology
? US companies sell them military technology ? WTF is THAT all about?

BTW do you really think the kid is running the show at this point?

Sanctions (as far as I've read) are what started the Pacific War Theater. No oil imports with winter coming on and that sort of thing.

Sanctions imposed as a direct result of the atrocities commited by the Japanese in the Far East, including the Rape of Nanking. Ignoring the fact that the Imperial Japanese Army had been aquiring Liebensbaum for the better half of the 20th century in Asia up until that point, and raping and murdering their way through China, Korea, and every island they could get their hands on.

Please, don't drink the Historical Revisionist Kool-Aid. The Japanese were not the victims.


No, sorry no revisionists under this roof.  Poor, lazy wording in play here.  Thanks for the schoolin' tho-
 
2013-03-07 10:48:12 PM  

jpo2269: Keep it up Un, while Rodman didn't have its desired effect, wait until we "Snookie-Bomb" your pudgy arse....It will not be pretty...


No.  No more half-assed responses.  We need to go full Honey Boo Boo on him, and the international community be damned!
 
2013-03-07 10:48:15 PM  

hardinparamedic: Marcintosh: military technology
? US companies sell them military technology ? WTF is THAT all about?

BTW do you really think the kid is running the show at this point?

Sanctions (as far as I've read) are what started the Pacific War Theater. No oil imports with winter coming on and that sort of thing.

Sanctions imposed as a direct result of the atrocities commited by the Japanese in the Far East, including the Rape of Nanking. Ignoring the fact that the Imperial Japanese Army had been aquiring Liebensbaum for the better half of the 20th century in Asia up until that point, and raping and murdering their way through China, Korea, and every island they could get their hands on.

Please, don't drink the Historical Revisionist Kool-Aid. The Japanese were not the victims.


The Japanese military where just a bunch of reactionairy asswipes that dragged the whole government along with them.  That is all.
 
2013-03-07 10:48:59 PM  
Thank, fargott republicans, for all your short sited foreign policy. YOU are all personally to blame.
 
2013-03-07 10:50:20 PM  

Rwa2play: seadoo2006: Ooooh, yay, another full-scale ground war the US is going to be in ... is this a repeat from the 1950s?

Actually it'll be different.  That war lasted 3 years, (if there is one) this one will last 3 minutes.

Also:  If China backed this, even they've had enough of Best Korea's shiat.


This is a very good point.  I wouldn't be surprised to see China step in before us and handle it, expanding their influence
 
2013-03-07 10:50:24 PM  

WeenerGord: WTF, they look like they could blow their own heads off if a stray hand or cuff drops down and pulls the trigger

[www.abc.net.au image 700x467]

Assuming those are real guns, and not the wooden guns I hear many of them are equipped with

/nice hats tho


I'm not sure what those guys are doing, but they remind me of Barney Fife loading his one bullet that he keeps tucked into his shirt pocket into his gun.

I imagine the entire North Korean military is made up entirely of people like Barney Fife...only not as nice.
 
2013-03-07 10:51:00 PM  
Dude, I think I'm gonna stop talking to North Korea.

i25.photobucket.com
 
2013-03-07 10:51:01 PM  

NotoriousFire: No US sites carrying this story? Only BBC and linked Australian site?


I was wondering about this too. Not a peep on any of my usual mainstream US news sites (CNN, WSJ and the like). Maybe they're just asleep, or are lumping it into the same story as the nuke threats from earlier today.
 
2013-03-07 10:51:24 PM  

J. Frank Parnell: Satanic_Hamster: You should see his flouride conspiracy posts.

I don't think i've spoken about that in years. But there's no conspiracy. Sodium fluoride is the primary and active ingredient in rat poison. Tubes of toothpaste have warnings about swallowing even small amounts of it. There's all kinds of evidence in plain view, the average person is just naive and stupid. A cover up isn't even needed. It's Darwinism in action.

/crazy like a fox!


Ummm....... Not to threadjack or anything buuuuuuuut.

The primary ingredient in most comercial rat poisons is actually warfarin sulfate, a blood thinner. Much cheaper and more effective in small doses to have the rats bleed internally and die... On the other hand many various ingredients, but not exclusively fluoride, show up in mouse poisons because of higher populations and trickier hiding spots, something that attacks the CNS is quicker and makes for easier location before rot stink....

An average healthy adult can swallow a whole tube of toothpaste with little chance of negative consequences. It is a warning on the label because it may cause developmental issues in very young children...

Take off the foil hat for a second, I think it's too tight

/Oh the things you can learn as a pharmacy tech
 
2013-03-07 10:51:41 PM  
Hey NK!
i685.photobucket.com

Come on bro, we've been waiting.  Why aint you coming at me yet, bro.
 
2013-03-07 10:52:43 PM  
The scariest part of this, to me, is that they're shutting down their direct phone line to Seoul.  We all know that the NorKos are never going to purposefully start a war they have no chance in Hell of winning.  But, some random officer on a cannon at the DMZ could get a little too amped up on patriotism and paint thinner, start firing pot shots into the South, and drag us all into a shiatpile because there's no longer a way for the two sides to immediately talk things out.
 
2013-03-07 10:53:35 PM  

dukeblue219: NotoriousFire: No US sites carrying this story? Only BBC and linked Australian site?

I was wondering about this too. Not a peep on any of my usual mainstream US news sites (CNN, WSJ and the like). Maybe they're just asleep, or are lumping it into the same story as the nuke threats from earlier today.



Yeah, rather odd. Kyodo now has a story linked on their English site, though I think it requires a log-in. But otherwise, still nothing - only stories about politics and Chavez...
 
2013-03-07 10:53:40 PM  

MaliFinn: Rwa2play: seadoo2006: Ooooh, yay, another full-scale ground war the US is going to be in ... is this a repeat from the 1950s?

Actually it'll be different.  That war lasted 3 years, (if there is one) this one will last 3 minutes.

Also:  If China backed this, even they've had enough of Best Korea's shiat.

This is a very good point.  I wouldn't be surprised to see China step in before us and handle it, expanding their influence


That would be very interesting; that means that China is willing to let it's economic growth stagnate a tad in order to expand their political influence in the region.