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2013-03-07 09:31:14 PM  

Atomic Spunk: neongoats: fark you NK.

Am I here early enough to stop the "container ship" retards yet?

I'm punching the first pants wetting container ship wackjob in the nuts.

What do you mean by "container ship retards"?


Presumably, that the Norks could use a massive fleet of container ships to surprise-invade the US like in World in Conflict/Red Dawn.  Which is absolutely as stupid as it sounds.
 
2013-03-07 09:31:19 PM  

pxlboy: neongoats: fark you NK.

Am I here early enough to stop the "container ship" retards yet?

I'm punching the first pants wetting container ship wackjob in the nuts.

?


In all the other North Korea threads, the pants shiatters are deathly afraid of North Korea sending a container ship to San Francisco with a sooper sekrit nuke secreted away in it. Because we wouldn't see a container ship. Because that's Kkkkraaazy and insane. So it just might work!

You know, unlike putting one on a submarine or something.
 
2013-03-07 09:31:24 PM  

Tom_Slick: DeltaPunch: On a more serious note, does it mean anything that China also voted to toughen sanctions against NK? Do they usually vote that way, or is this something new?

As far as I know, it is something new, as in North Korea you are farking up our relationship with our largest trade partner so STFU. My guess is there will be some actions by Best Korea that will justify an Air Strike that kills Dear Leader and a puppet for the Chinese Government will take his place.


I'm pretty sure China will just raise its hand say "We've got this". Then China will drag NK into a room and come out an hour later zipping it's fly and wiping blood off its hands and say "Won't be anymore trouble out of that one."
 
2013-03-07 09:32:02 PM  
The last thing in the world we'll do is drop a nuke, even in retaliation. Honestly It's one of the few rational fears I have that the first to drop a nuke will be retaliated against by all other capable nations regardless of loyalties and treaties. One detonation by any of the power player nations will also give excuse for other conflicts to start chain reaction style... India and Pakistan, Israel and everybody else in the mid east ect... too much too far apart to clean the mess and play world police like we like to do.

If we get involved in NK whether they try to nuke or not, we will likely use drones to hammer key installations and limit armored barricade as SK and us forces cross the DMZ. A land war is the most PC way to invade, and if done at night will be safer for the soldiers involved... Doubt NK has night vision, but if they do it would be old tech and not as efficient.

Regardless, If anything happens, It's likely to be fairly quick in my mind. I could be overconfident, but I also believe that quality always beats quantity. As long as the war commander in charge isn't stupid or arrogant about any of this we're fine. China will probably stay out and focus on refugee control unless directly provoked... Probably by Japan, but I doubt any of them are that stupid... I hope

/I've played Risk so I know what I'm talking about
//Got killed at Strategos
 
2013-03-07 09:32:04 PM  

hardinparamedic: hat would lead to a nuclear retaliation by China the moment a fallout cloud drifts over their border.


how in the world would they be able to distinguish it from the polluted air they already have/make?
 
2013-03-07 09:32:15 PM  

germ78: farkingismybusiness: cptjeff: plumbicon: Is it time for some landscaping around the "Dear Comrade's"  palace?

Maybe like a glass parking lot?

Seriously, though, we know where their good stuff is, and a few JDAMs would probably do the trick.
The worst part is that the citizens who worship this ninny are the ones who'll suffer.

The problem is that the Best Koreans can lob a nuke or two at Seoul before our missiles get there.

[i.imgur.com image 500x500]
Doubt it.

I'd have a nuclear armed submarine or 3 hanging out in the Sea of Japan for this contingency. Sending an ICBM halfway around the world is a waste of time, and would allow leadership to escape to protective bunkers, assuming they hadn't done so already.


You say that like we probably don't already have a few boomers sitting there silently already.
Not that I'd know anything about that...
 
2013-03-07 09:32:24 PM  

NEDM: Atomic Spunk: neongoats: fark you NK.

Am I here early enough to stop the "container ship" retards yet?

I'm punching the first pants wetting container ship wackjob in the nuts.

What do you mean by "container ship retards"?

Presumably, that the Norks could use a massive fleet of container ships to surprise-invade the US like in World in Conflict/Red Dawn.  Which is absolutely as stupid as it sounds.


COCKPUNCH!
 
2013-03-07 09:32:42 PM  

greentea1985: Now the question will be how China reacts. We already know China is pissed at North Korea, after all China helped write and voted for the recent set of sanctions. The smart move will be to wait until Kim Jong Un starts an attack. Although he is being aggressive, neither the US nor South Korea should fire the first shot.


China was once Vietnam's Bestest Bro, but that didn't stop them from slapping 'Nam's sh*t around in the 70's after the US was long gone from there.
 
2013-03-07 09:32:48 PM  
I hate to interrupt your NK/SK wankfest here, but I thought I'd better inform you of something REALLY important going on in this world.

JUSTIN BIEBER WAS JUST RUSHED TO THE HOSPITAL WITH BREATHING DIFFICULTIES!
 
2013-03-07 09:33:02 PM  
So, what do you think Fatboy is going to do?
 
2013-03-07 09:33:04 PM  

DamnYankees: Well, there's a DMZ for a reason.


Muahaha if only they knew that I already own a small piece of the wire fence.
 
2013-03-07 09:33:09 PM  

Lenny_da_Hog: On the bright side, M*A*S*H was a great series. It could use a sequel.


Damn, I knew I was forgetting a meme.
 
2013-03-07 09:33:15 PM  

The Haberdasher: North Korea won't be taken seriously until they have to be taken seriously. Then everyone will wonder why they weren't taken seriously earlier.

If they are so harmless why the sanctions?


There's a big gap between "not taking them seriously" and "nuking a major population center over saber rattling"
 
2013-03-07 09:33:29 PM  
I really don't think you have to worry about the US getting very involved if they attack SK. There would be a barrage of speeches condemning the attack, but that's about it. All the talk of fighting oppression in the name of freedom is really just propaganda. There's nothing to gain by responding, so they won't.
 
2013-03-07 09:33:50 PM  
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2013-03-07 09:34:08 PM  

Atomic Spunk: I hate to interrupt your NK/SK wankfest here, but I thought I'd better inform you of something REALLY important going on in this world.

JUSTIN BIEBER WAS JUST RUSHED TO THE HOSPITAL WITH BREATHING DIFFICULTIES!


O
M
G
 
2013-03-07 09:34:28 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: Hey NK!
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Release the BASS CANNON!

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2013-03-07 09:34:51 PM  
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2013-03-07 09:34:56 PM  
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2013-03-07 09:35:00 PM  

AnythingBacon: The last thing in the world we'll do is drop a nuke, even in retaliation. Honestly It's one of the few rational fears I have that the first to drop a nuke will be retaliated against by all other capable nations regardless of loyalties and treaties. One detonation by any of the power player nations will also give excuse for other conflicts to start chain reaction style... India and Pakistan, Israel and everybody else in the mid east ect... too much too far apart to clean the mess and play world police like we like to do.

If we get involved in NK whether they try to nuke or not, we will likely use drones to hammer key installations and limit armored barricade as SK and us forces cross the DMZ. A land war is the most PC way to invade, and if done at night will be safer for the soldiers involved... Doubt NK has night vision, but if they do it would be old tech and not as efficient.

Regardless, If anything happens, It's likely to be fairly quick in my mind. I could be overconfident, but I also believe that quality always beats quantity. As long as the war commander in charge isn't stupid or arrogant about any of this we're fine. China will probably stay out and focus on refugee control unless directly provoked... Probably by Japan, but I doubt any of them are that stupid... I hope

/I've played Risk so I know what I'm talking about
//Got killed at Strategos


And land war in southeast Asia?
 
2013-03-07 09:35:14 PM  

Atomic Spunk: I hate to interrupt your NK/SK wankfest here, but I thought I'd better inform you of something REALLY important going on in this world.

JUSTIN BIEBER WAS JUST RUSHED TO THE HOSPITAL WITH BREATHING DIFFICULTIES!


That was his singing. Sheesh, you'd think people would be used to it by now.
 
2013-03-07 09:35:46 PM  
If it comes to shooting, China will either sit on the sidelines (after making it abundantly clear that American and South Korean troops are not to cross their border under any circumstances) or simply invade North Korea themselves since if it's going to happen anyways. they might as well do it on their own terms.  The mere fact they voted for the sanctions instead of vetoing it tells us that it's pretty much a forgone conclusion that they will not back North Korea should they start another war.


Of course as always with North Korea, this could just be another case of a day ending in "y",  any Farkers know if have they ever explicitly shredded the ceasefire agreement before?
 
2013-03-07 09:36:00 PM  
And now it's a Pony thread...
 
2013-03-07 09:36:05 PM  
"The sanctions include wider bans on the sale of military technology and luxury goods, including gems, pearl jewellery, yachts and luxury cars."

Oh yeah, that'll show 'em.

I feel bad for the starving North Koreans who don't give a shiat about any of this. May this horrible regime collapse peacefully and soon-ish.
 
2013-03-07 09:36:13 PM  

J. Frank Parnell: I really don't think you have to worry about the US getting very involved if they attack SK. There would be a barrage of speeches condemning the attack, but that's about it. All the talk of fighting oppression in the name of freedom is really just propaganda. There's nothing to gain by responding, so they won't.


Unless NK manages to phase through the DMZ, it's impossible to not involve us
 
2013-03-07 09:36:17 PM  

IamAwake: hardinparamedic: hat would lead to a nuclear retaliation by China the moment a fallout cloud drifts over their border.

how in the world would they be able to distinguish it from the polluted air they already have/make?


The current stuff makes you choke.

The new stuff will make you choke as you grow a second head and develop lymphoma.
 
2013-03-07 09:36:23 PM  

devildog123: Weaver95: devildog123:

I'm thinking we're good.

And yet, i'm thinking we're not.

Seriously, if Un had his troops crossed the border tomorrow, or even in the next few months, what part of the sequester would effect our response?  Most of our combat troops at this point are actually combat veterans, and I doubt they're going to forget how to fight in the next few months, even if all they did was lay around at home and drink beer (which, I promise you, they aren't doing).  Do you think they wouldn't bump up military funding if we had to go balls deep in Korea?  Would a war be good?  Of course not.  I'm just saying, we have the resources to handle it.  Only in your little mind are all our troops camped out in Israel, defending those evil zionists you hate so much.


by the time we got our troops in theatre enough to do anything effective, we'd have lost most of south korea, if not all of it.  there's even a chance the Norks could hit Japan.  for extra giggles, NK could rack off some rounds at Taiwan.  meanwhile, we'll spend time bogged down in debate about sequester cuts and who's gonna pay for the logistics requires to recall our reservists, get 'em combat ready and geared, then put them on the ground in theater.  forget about any sort of economic recover - not only did those spending cuts kick us in the nuts, we also just took a lot of reservists out of the economy and put 'em on the front lines.

then when we redeploy, Iran gets to ramp up their efforts to build a nuclear weapon.  Israel gets f*cking paranoid as hell and if we're not around to calm 'em down, they might decide to kick off WWIII in the middle east.

end result?  we get f*cked from both ends, the GOP blames Obama and our country implodes into economic instability and political chaos.
 
2013-03-07 09:36:32 PM  
I'm ashamed of Fark for giving this attention.

It's clearly viral marketing for Red Dawn.
 
2013-03-07 09:36:36 PM  

scubamage: germ78: farkingismybusiness: cptjeff: plumbicon: Is it time for some landscaping around the "Dear Comrade's"  palace?

Maybe like a glass parking lot?

Seriously, though, we know where their good stuff is, and a few JDAMs would probably do the trick.
The worst part is that the citizens who worship this ninny are the ones who'll suffer.

The problem is that the Best Koreans can lob a nuke or two at Seoul before our missiles get there.

[i.imgur.com image 500x500]
Doubt it.

I'd have a nuclear armed submarine or 3 hanging out in the Sea of Japan for this contingency. Sending an ICBM halfway around the world is a waste of time, and would allow leadership to escape to protective bunkers, assuming they hadn't done so already.

You say that like we probably don't already have a few boomers sitting there silently already.
Not that I'd know anything about that...


Didn't have to alter those cold war deployment patterns too dramatically, did they?
 
2013-03-07 09:36:37 PM  

igorknowsall: That chubby little fella really needs attention.


So ronery.

From Orbit.  To be sure.
 
2013-03-07 09:36:45 PM  
Lessee...a week ago, the sequester went into effect, military spending was cut with more cuts pending.  Now NK starts going apeshiat.  One wonders if NK wasn't encouraged to do this by folks keen on stopping those cuts.

"See!?  There are wolves at the gate.  Cut our funding at your own peril!"
 
2013-03-07 09:36:46 PM  

davidphogan: Lenny_da_Hog: On the bright side, M*A*S*H was a great series. It could use a sequel.

Damn, I knew I was forgetting a meme.


No one remembers "After M*A*S*H" ? shiat I feel old.
 
2013-03-07 09:36:47 PM  
oh goodie...
 
2013-03-07 09:36:54 PM  
Nobody yet has mentioned the boat sails that Un uses as pant legs?

Really, it's comical...
 
2013-03-07 09:36:56 PM  

hardinparamedic: Great Janitor: Okay, instead of drones, bombers under fighter jet escort, to the largest North Korean city, bomb it until it is a memory. Repeat until they surrender or until there is no such thing as a North Korean. Better that then sending our troops into yet another ground war.

So, a war crime, then?

Because it's pretty commonly accepted that carpet-bombing civilian areas went out of vogue at the end of World War II, and was a pretty ineffective and dick move in Vietnam.


Yeah, I thought of that, but if North Korea started a war, how soon would the North Korean government start conscripting all males in the country 17 years and older?  The North Korean government does have a policy of requiring all males to serve in the military for a couple of years.  So it isn't so much killing civilians as taking out reserved forces.
 
2013-03-07 09:37:56 PM  
Just be sure to grab this first:

www.wshin.com

It'll make things that much faster.


/or perhaps turn on insta-gib mode
 
2013-03-07 09:37:57 PM  
THIS THREAD HAS JUST GONE PONY!

narwhaler.com
 
2013-03-07 09:38:03 PM  

seadoo2006: Ooooh, yay, another full-scale ground war the US is going to be in ... is this a repeat from the 1950s?


Don't be silly, our air force is so hilariously superior to theirs that we would probably deliver a missile right into Un's left ear within 2 minutes of the order being given, and the rest of his military assets would soon follow.  They have a lot of AA, but most of it is old and we have stealth.


Weaver95: devildog123:

I'm thinking we're good.

And yet, i'm thinking we're not.


Based ooooonn....?
We already account for a huge percentage of the world's military spending.  I really, really don't think that a little sequester is going to significantly impact our ability to blow things up.
 
2013-03-07 09:38:06 PM  
My bet is that if he really tries to ramp it up, some sane military member will kill Un.
 
2013-03-07 09:38:07 PM  

pxlboy: neongoats: fark you NK.

Am I here early enough to stop the "container ship" retards yet?

I'm punching the first pants wetting container ship wackjob in the nuts.

?


I have no idea.
 
2013-03-07 09:39:09 PM  

Atomic Spunk: I hate to interrupt your NK/SK wankfest here, but I thought I'd better inform you of something REALLY important going on in this world.

JUSTIN BIEBER WAS JUST RUSHED TO THE HOSPITAL WITH BREATHING DIFFICULTIES!


MuthaF*ck! Has anybody informed Obammy? Do we fly flags at half staff? When is the Hollywood Charity event?
 
2013-03-07 09:39:14 PM  
Yeah, a lot of people buying into US propaganda about how great we are and how terrible they are.

Let's cover this:
Military - No easy feat - the terrain is mountainous and the positions entrenched.  Air and sea support is rendered useless by terrain, and we can't do the kind of civilian casualties in non-mountainous terrain like the first war.  This wouldn't be fun, and we still have Afghanistan to fight.

Economy - South Korea is the 15th biggest economy in the world, a lot of that tied up in Seoul.  North Korea has been rather obvious in making it known that their first strike would obliterate Seoul.  Even if, as claimed earlier (which I disagree with), 90% of the artillery pieces failed, that 10% would wreck Seoul.  The humanitarian crisis because of so many displaced people would ruin the economy there.  Let's not even begin to cover cost.

Goal:  We can either nation-build (bad at it) a country with almost zero infrastructure, agriculture and technology, abandon it to a new crisis between South Korea and China over land/border disputes, or give it back "Iraq Style" and watch as the military and aristocracy there fight it out and leave it relatively as bad as before.

All that said, keep on waving those flags and acting like it won't be a big deal, or that they are just super inept.  Someone would have to be out there in the shiat, though, and I don't think many people, if any, are willing to volunteer.
 
2013-03-07 09:39:14 PM  

scubamage: IamAwake: hardinparamedic: hat would lead to a nuclear retaliation by China the moment a fallout cloud drifts over their border.

how in the world would they be able to distinguish it from the polluted air they already have/make?

The current stuff makes you choke.

The new stuff will make you choke as you grow a second head and develop lymphoma.


Or, you know, China is in the wrong direction to have to worry about fallout.
 
2013-03-07 09:39:17 PM  

E-Brake: Why thank you, I liked yours too. When I saw they were "ripping up all the pacts" I imagined a teenage girl throwing a hissy, ripping up papers and clicking all the buttons on FB.


Yours is definitely paints a funnier image. Which is the best way to write a Fark headline.
 
2013-03-07 09:39:41 PM  

neongoats: davidphogan: Lenny_da_Hog: On the bright side, M*A*S*H was a great series. It could use a sequel.

Damn, I knew I was forgetting a meme.

No one remembers "After M*A*S*H" ? shiat I feel old.


No one remembers it because it really sucked and nobody watched it.
 
2013-03-07 09:39:56 PM  

Great Janitor: hardinparamedic: Great Janitor: Okay, instead of drones, bombers under fighter jet escort, to the largest North Korean city, bomb it until it is a memory. Repeat until they surrender or until there is no such thing as a North Korean. Better that then sending our troops into yet another ground war.

So, a war crime, then?

Because it's pretty commonly accepted that carpet-bombing civilian areas went out of vogue at the end of World War II, and was a pretty ineffective and dick move in Vietnam.

Yeah, I thought of that, but if North Korea started a war, how soon would the North Korean government start conscripting all males in the country 17 years and older?  The North Korean government does have a policy of requiring all males to serve in the military for a couple of years.  So it isn't so much killing civilians as taking out reserved forces.


The only thing making the guys in the front row fight is the guns pointed at their backs. You waste fewer bullets by simply shooting the guys in the back row. Schematically speaking, of course
 
2013-03-07 09:40:08 PM  

JasonOfOrillia: Until NK attacks then the ceasefire is still tacitly in place.  The rest of the world should shock the hell out of them and pre-emptively attack.  That farce of a nation has existed for too long and the oppression of its people is a blight on the face of humanity.


Yes, we should free them from oppression by blowing them up, right?
 
2013-03-07 09:40:43 PM  
So... will Obama use the earthquake machine, the typhoon device, the tsunami impeller, or the meteorite mass-driver this time?
 
2013-03-07 09:41:16 PM  
Let them starve.
 
2013-03-07 09:41:20 PM  

Weaver95: devildog123: Weaver95: devildog123:

I'm thinking we're good.

And yet, i'm thinking we're not.

Seriously, if Un had his troops crossed the border tomorrow, or even in the next few months, what part of the sequester would effect our response?  Most of our combat troops at this point are actually combat veterans, and I doubt they're going to forget how to fight in the next few months, even if all they did was lay around at home and drink beer (which, I promise you, they aren't doing).  Do you think they wouldn't bump up military funding if we had to go balls deep in Korea?  Would a war be good?  Of course not.  I'm just saying, we have the resources to handle it.  Only in your little mind are all our troops camped out in Israel, defending those evil zionists you hate so much.

by the time we got our troops in theatre enough to do anything effective, we'd have lost most of south korea, if not all of it.  there's even a chance the Norks could hit Japan.  for extra giggles, NK could rack off some rounds at Taiwan.  meanwhile, we'll spend time bogged down in debate about sequester cuts and who's gonna pay for the logistics requires to recall our reservists, get 'em combat ready and geared, then put them on the ground in theater.  forget about any sort of economic recover - not only did those spending cuts kick us in the nuts, we also just took a lot of reservists out of the economy and put 'em on the front lines.

then when we redeploy, Iran gets to ramp up their efforts to build a nuclear weapon.  Israel gets f*cking paranoid as hell and if we're not around to calm 'em down, they might decide to kick off WWIII in the middle east.

end result?  we get f*cked from both ends, the GOP blames Obama and our country implodes into economic instability and political chaos.


The good news is that war usually ducks up a good depression/recession fairly quick.
 
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