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(Kotaku)   After a flood of 1-star reviews and thousands of complaints, Amazon removes Sim City from the digital downloads. Don't worry though, you can still get it through Origin for the low price of $59.99* (*No guarantees it will actually work)   (kotaku.com) divider line 263
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2013-03-07 06:45:20 PM

cman: To think that EA considers their customers as the scum of the earth is laughable. Without customers they wouldnt be in business. They know this and they understand this. They are in the business to make money. If you treat your customers like shiat they won't spend their money.

EA board room doesnt meet with old men smoking cigars saying "How can we fark over everyone today?". That is the way that you are putting it.


So why do they treat their customers like shiat? Oh, because they're BAD at business. They make stupid decisions. Doesn't help that everything they touch turns to shiat. Just look at Bioware.
 
2013-03-07 06:46:05 PM

chaoswolf: cman: To think that EA considers their customers as the scum of the earth is laughable. Without customers they wouldnt be in business. They know this and they understand this. They are in the business to make money. If you treat your customers like shiat they won't spend their money.

EA board room doesnt meet with old men smoking cigars saying "How can we fark over everyone today?". That is the way that you are putting it.

So why do they treat their customers like shiat? Oh, because they're BAD at business. They make stupid decisions. Doesn't help that everything they touch turns to shiat. Just look at Bioware.


I'm unsure what problem with Bioware you're referring to.  elaborate.
 
2013-03-07 06:46:12 PM
cman:  ...but you really cannot blame them for trying extreme actions.

Uh...yes, yes I can.  "Extreme actions" is never a good thing (unless you're saving a life but even then only if it's successful).
 
2013-03-07 06:51:08 PM

chaoswolf: So why do they treat their customers like shiat? Oh, because they're BAD at business. They make stupid decisions. Doesn't help that everything they touch turns to shiat. Just look at Bioware.


While I'd like to agree that they're bad at business, they're still making gobs of money.  So why would they get better?

Hell, everyone knew well in advance this type of DRM would be included and they still bought the game anyway.
 
2013-03-07 06:52:27 PM

cman: Bender The Offender: cman: This About That: The acronym "EA", when printed on a software package, is really a new rating symbol. It means "DRM gone nuts".

What would you have them do? Not try at all? These companies have been affected by piracy and they are fighting back.

Yeah, it does suck, and yes, there will be some troubles; but you really cannot blame them for trying extreme actions.

This is the kind of shiat attitude that enables shiat companies like EA to saddle customers with shiat DRM. How the fark can you excuse them treating paying customers like criminals? I guess people will defend any farked up thing on the internet. I'm not the criminal. I pay for my goddamned software. If I pay $60 dollars for a game, then it should work right out of the box. There is no farking excuse whatsoever for my game to not work out of the box. I blame them, I blame them heavily. Not only do they screw honest customers with their shiatty DRM schemes, but then they nickel and dime the fark out of you with DLC for abilities like "sprint", or hotbars, or not going through 5 loading screens to get from 1 farking zone to another. EA is the definition of a shiat company with a shiat business ethos and an absolute contempt for their customers.

To think that EA considers their customers as the scum of the earth is laughable. Without customers they wouldnt be in business. They know this and they understand this. They are in the business to make money. If you treat your customers like shiat they won't spend their money.

EA board room doesnt meet with old men smoking cigars saying "How can we fark over everyone today?". That is the way that you are putting it.


They target their DRM at paying customers. How is that not contempt for your paying customers, exactly? Explain it to me. The DRM has already been cracked and pirates are playing the game offline, so the only people that the DRM is actually hurting is their paying customer. Anyone that plays games or has heard of pirate bay knows it takes between 24-72 hours for pirates to crack DRM. EA knows this. This is contempt for their consumers. I love the hyperbole, btw. Ask any waiter or barrista, it's very easy to have contempt for your customers without your idiotic Snidely Whiplash implication.
 
2013-03-07 06:52:33 PM

TwoHead: They can do whatever they want and so can we.  We don't have to buy their crap.


I am seeing a lot of "Well, it's fun when I get a chance to play, so I'm glad that I'll have it to play in two weeks when the server overload isn't as bad," sadly.

I don't get it, but I don't really play EA's games anyway. My gaming has trended more toward indies and older PC games with the occasional big-time release mixed in.
 
2013-03-07 06:53:20 PM
It's about time EA took a legit hit from their shiat business `strategy'
 
2013-03-07 06:55:03 PM

Smelly McUgly: My gaming has trended more toward indies and older PC games with the occasional big-time release mixed in.


Yeah, I used to buy one new game a month back in the mid to late 90's

Now I usually buy one new game a year and wait until the rest are on sale.
 
2013-03-07 06:57:33 PM

The WindowLicker: This is also why I am bothered by people who claim that piracy is not theft because you are only copying.


Can we please stop with the "piracy is theft" stupidity?  Piracy is not theft, and it's never going to be theft, no matter what perspective you try to look at it from.  If it was theft, we wouldn't need separate laws for piracy, now would we?  We could just prosecute under existing grand theft laws and be done with it.

Think about it, if the MPAA & RIAA lawyers could get away with felony grand theft charges for something that they could claim has a value in the millions, they would be all over that shiat in a heartbeat.  "Yes, your honor, it cost over $300 million to make Avatar, so that's the declared value of the property stolen by studman69 when he put it on bittorrent."
 
2013-03-07 07:02:27 PM
I don't know why I even bother with video game threads on here anymore.  Somebody mentions steam, I go check the store, now I just dropped 18 bucks on a game I bought ages ago and lost the disk to, probably for full price at the time, but oh it's in HD now but still doesn't come out for another month+, and I don't even have time to play the games I already bought during holiday sales that I've never played before.

I need to take, like, a month vacation.
 
2013-03-07 07:03:55 PM

Smelly McUgly: I am seeing a lot of "Well, it's fun when I get a chance to play, so I'm glad that I'll have it to play in two weeks when the server overload isn't as bad," sadly.


My coworker told me yesterday that he gave in and got it, despite the problems, because "I'm too big of a Simcity fan to let it go".

I quickly pointed out that he was part of the problem in the first place, that buying it just encouraged EA to continue doing this in the future. His response? "*shrug* Yea, I kinda see that, but hey, it's Simcity"
 
2013-03-07 07:06:10 PM

Scruffinator: I don't know why I even bother with video game threads on here anymore.  Somebody mentions steam, I go check the store, now I just dropped 18 bucks on a game I bought ages ago and lost the disk to, probably for full price at the time, but oh it's in HD now but still doesn't come out for another month+, and I don't even have time to play the games I already bought during holiday sales that I've never played before.

I need to take, like, a month vacation.


You saw age of empires as well eh?
 
2013-03-07 07:07:47 PM

BumpInTheNight: Scruffinator: I don't know why I even bother with video game threads on here anymore.  Somebody mentions steam, I go check the store, now I just dropped 18 bucks on a game I bought ages ago and lost the disk to, probably for full price at the time, but oh it's in HD now but still doesn't come out for another month+, and I don't even have time to play the games I already bought during holiday sales that I've never played before.

I need to take, like, a month vacation.

You saw age of empires as well eh?


Oh no...
 
2013-03-07 07:11:14 PM
Seriously, it's a freakin' Sim City game.  Were people really anticipating this?
 
2013-03-07 07:11:37 PM
Here's what I don't get: If you're EA and you have $11 kabillion dollars, employ enough people to fill Kansas, and have an army of gamers just waiting for you to screw up, how is it even possible that you didn't throw enough resources at your servers to handle the load? I get that problems like this are not always about throwing more hardware into a server room, but if the problems were all in their code this POS would have never made it past alpha.

What number could your hosting provider possibly had quoted that makes this cock-up seem worth it?
 
2013-03-07 07:11:42 PM

Glitchwerks: chaoswolf: So why do they treat their customers like shiat? Oh, because they're BAD at business. They make stupid decisions. Doesn't help that everything they touch turns to shiat. Just look at Bioware.

While I'd like to agree that they're bad at business, they're still making gobs of money.  So why would they get better?

Hell, everyone knew well in advance this type of DRM would be included and they still bought the game anyway.


Why get better? Why stop pissing off customers and turning good companies into crap? To make more money. That's what businesses are supposed to do.

If I can't buy it from Steam during a sale, I don't buy it anymore because of the vapid BS that has taken over the gaming industry. If I see that I have to tie into Windows Live or EA's origin, I won't buy it at all.

How anyone can see that driving me as a customer to these decisions is a wise move is beyond my ability to grok.
 
2013-03-07 07:12:29 PM
when I first heard there was going to be a new sim city, I really wanted to buy it. for months I tried to get more info as it became available. I've been an avid sim city player since the original waaaaay back when. had 2000, 3000, 4 (with rush hour expansion) and tons and tons of gigabytes worth of mods and user created content. hell, sim city 4 was available in big box stores for almost a decade because users kept it alive with created content and mods (how many games can make this claim, I mean really?) EA knew exactly what sim city fans wanted out of the game and delivered none of it. instead we got a mediocre city simulator that's loaded with DRM bullshiat and a game that was never meant to be multiplayer is now forcefully so.

fact of the matter is, I was more than willing to spend money on this game but after months of being disappointed by developments and now all the negative reviews regarding the features alone I will not be purchasing this game. fark EA. maybe someone else will make a good city simulator - Cities XL was pretty good. hell, better than this pile of crap. without user generated content this franchise is dead.

/good graphics don't make a game good if the functionality is lacking.
//fark EA
 
2013-03-07 07:13:06 PM

BumpInTheNight: Scruffinator: I don't know why I even bother with video game threads on here anymore.  Somebody mentions steam, I go check the store, now I just dropped 18 bucks on a game I bought ages ago and lost the disk to, probably for full price at the time, but oh it's in HD now but still doesn't come out for another month+, and I don't even have time to play the games I already bought during holiday sales that I've never played before.

I need to take, like, a month vacation.

You saw age of empires as well eh?


I didn't so much see it as I slipped into a euphoric dream state. The only way that news could have been better is if it was delivered by a naked Kate Upton.
 
2013-03-07 07:14:34 PM
I just want to pay my money and play my game.

If you fark up part of that contract, then I don't fulfill my part.
 
2013-03-07 07:15:29 PM

jayhawk88: BumpInTheNight: Scruffinator: I don't know why I even bother with video game threads on here anymore.  Somebody mentions steam, I go check the store, now I just dropped 18 bucks on a game I bought ages ago and lost the disk to, probably for full price at the time, but oh it's in HD now but still doesn't come out for another month+, and I don't even have time to play the games I already bought during holiday sales that I've never played before.

I need to take, like, a month vacation.

You saw age of empires as well eh?

I didn't so much see it as I slipped into a euphoric dream state. The only way that news could have been better is if it was delivered by a naked Kate Upton.


If I spent the same amount of time working as I did building massive colonies in the Black Forest I'd be able to retire by now.

/April 9th....
 
2013-03-07 07:16:09 PM
I can't wait till they fix this, so I can BitTorrent it to keep me occupied for Cities in Motion 2.

/don't normally pirate titles, but EA is just begging for it in this case
 
2013-03-07 07:16:14 PM

IronJelly: I'm unsure what problem with Bioware you're referring to.  elaborate.


EA forced ME3 to go through Origin. Strike 1.
DA2 was a PoS compared to DA:O. Strike 2.
ME3's ending was a steaming PoS compared to anything in the world. (meh, everyone screws up from time to time.)
Bioware's quality started going downhill as soon as EA acquired them. Added up meant strike 3.

It's sad but oh well, life goes on and there are other games to play.
 
2013-03-07 07:16:23 PM

IronJelly: poopsoup48: cman: This About That: The acronym "EA", when printed on a software package, is really a new rating symbol. It means "DRM gone nuts".

What would you have them do? Not try at all? These companies have been affected by piracy and they are fighting back.

Yeah, it does suck, and yes, there will be some troubles; but you really cannot blame them for trying extreme actions.

Because piracy is such a big deal. Piracy is not a lose in sales. Piracy is a lost to "potential"  People that pirate games are not looking to buy the game in the first place. Hell look at minecraft. Notch the creator of the game tweeted to a fan "Just pirate it. If you still like it when you can afford it in the future, buy it then. Also don't forget to feel bad."

He goes on to say this in a blog post "If someone pirates Minecraft instead of buying it, it means I've lost some "potential" revenue. Not actual revenue, as I can never go into debt by people pirating the game too much, but I might've made even more if that person had bought the game instead. But what if that person likes that game, talks about it to his or her friends, and then I manage to convince three of them to buy the game? I'd make three actual sales instead of blocking out the potentially missed sale of the original person which never cost me any money in the first case. "

The problem with EA is they treat their customers like criminals. They release shiat games with DRM that is just very invasive then expect to nickel and dime the paying customer. EA is surviving on Madden and Fifa. They lost over 300 million on SWOTOR. Then made that terrible game into a free to play mmo that nickel and dimes the loyal customers.

All in all EA needs to be wiped off of the planet.

I agreed with you up until you brought up SWTOR.

SWTOR wasn't a loss, and an mmo switching to a free-to-play model is common.  I'm almost positive they make more money that way, and they planned on it.  they intentionally launched with more servers and ...


Swotor was indeed a loss. Sinking over 300 million into the next wow killer over a six year period. Using a game engine that was not complete. Then not using the engine developers to upgrade the game was a dumb move. The game started off with 1.7 million users. In a six month period they dropped down to 400k users. EA stock went from 25 dollars a share to 12 dollars a share in that same six months. EA is barely recovering back up to 18 dollars a share. Switching to a free to play model is the only way swotor even has a player base.

The data is on my side. You may want to do some research before calling someone an idiot. You end up looking like one when you use that term loosely.
 
2013-03-07 07:17:23 PM
Update: Unfortunately I can't recommend buying SimCity until these crippling server issues are fixed. Please don't purchase it until there's a reasonable expectation that you'll be able to actually play.

Ouch. Like 'em or hate 'em, IGN is influential.
 
2013-03-07 07:18:26 PM

IronJelly: chaoswolf: cman: To think that EA considers their customers as the scum of the earth is laughable. Without customers they wouldnt be in business. They know this and they understand this. They are in the business to make money. If you treat your customers like shiat they won't spend their money.

EA board room doesnt meet with old men smoking cigars saying "How can we fark over everyone today?". That is the way that you are putting it.

So why do they treat their customers like shiat? Oh, because they're BAD at business. They make stupid decisions. Doesn't help that everything they touch turns to shiat. Just look at Bioware.

I'm unsure what problem with Bioware you're referring to.  elaborate.


Mass Effect. Great game when it was just Bioware. After EA got involved, Mass Effect 3 and all the rap that came with that. On a related note, Amazon gave people back their money or that game because it was so bad too.
 
2013-03-07 07:21:46 PM

CraicBaby: Steam is having a "CIty Sims That Work Offline" Sale.


i.imgur.com
 
2013-03-07 07:21:49 PM
All of the people who bought this, were going to buy this regardless of the availability of pirate versions of it or not,

Many who did NOT buy this might have bought it, regardless of the availability of pirate versions of it or not, but chose not to because of the onerous always-connected DRM.

Now, many of their loyal users are pissed because of many things, but the biggest is the crappy DRM. Many of those customers will probably not return to the franchise - indeed, they may no longer purchase ANY EA games again.

Congrats, EA. Your idiotic, clumsy, anti-piracy effort has not gained you a SINGLE SALE that might have been lost due to piracy, and in fact, COST YOU many more sales. The ill-will spawned by this effort will have repercussions for many games under the EA umbrella for some time to come.
 
2013-03-07 07:22:46 PM
I (I), I (I), I (I), Ain't gonna play Sim City
Oh, no no no no!
 
2013-03-07 07:27:21 PM
I don't hate EA like others seem to, Origin isn't all that bad from my limited experience (though I only use it for DA2 and ME3).  It plays nicely with Steam and keeps a low profile.

I do however have a bunch of friends who were excited about Sim City and I was gonna pick up a copy to play with them,  but this clusterfark pretty much makes this game a pass for me, even after they sort out their servers.

/back to Tomb Raider
//and Citadel DLC (ME3)
 
2013-03-07 07:27:59 PM

Tax Boy: CraicBaby: Steam is having a "CIty Sims That Work Offline" Sale.


Stop posting bullshiat.
 
2013-03-07 07:29:04 PM

CraicBaby: Steam is having a "CIty Sims That Work Offline" Sale.


Where have you seen that? I keep looking all over the steam store for it (I want to share it with a friend who was interested in Cities XL) but keep coming up emptyhanded. And I've seen the screengrabs for it, so I know it exists.
 
2013-03-07 07:29:47 PM

"/Wondering whether we'll get the "It can't be my machine because it's new!", "Arkham City is the only game that's ever crashed for me ever in my entire life!", or the "I don't care if it's my machine that's the problem, I bought it from Steam so it's their responsibility to fix it" response."


No here's the response. You're a twat. You (all) project that I'm some kind of jerk to them on the phone (tickets can be submitted for issues online) or project that I screwed up, not the game. Though there are threads after threads of others having issues. I know because I looked up everything online before contacting Steam Support. And even after I tried their solutions, nothing worked. Though their other games I've purchased from Steam work. So after the purchases I've made, they can't give a a small credit? Then you project that I was the one who screwed up, and not the game that has issues?

A lot of you guys don't have a clue what you're talking about.

 
2013-03-07 07:30:01 PM

germ78: CraicBaby: Steam is having a "CIty Sims That Work Offline" Sale.

Where have you seen that? I keep looking all over the steam store for it (I want to share it with a friend who was interested in Cities XL) but keep coming up emptyhanded. And I've seen the photoshopped screengrabs for it, so I know it exists.


FTFY
 
2013-03-07 07:30:20 PM

germ78: CraicBaby: Steam is having a "CIty Sims That Work Offline" Sale.

Where have you seen that? I keep looking all over the steam store for it (I want to share it with a friend who was interested in Cities XL) but keep coming up emptyhanded. And I've seen the screengrabs for it, so I know it exists.


You have to refresh the steam main page a few times, with the proper timing.  It's like an easter egg.
 
2013-03-07 07:30:59 PM

Tax Boy: CraicBaby: Steam is having a "CIty Sims That Work Offline" Sale.

[i.imgur.com image 850x544]


I am not seeing this when I log into steam, which is a shame as I have wanted to give Tropico a run forever. I mean, sure, I was planning to get into Warhammer this weekend and play some more Alien Crossfire, but Tropico 3 for three bucks and change sounds great!

Maybe it's a good thing that I can't see this screen when I log in.
 
2013-03-07 07:32:14 PM
Guess you can't fix stupid.
 
2013-03-07 07:33:09 PM
<Shrug> Only problem I had with Arkham City was having to go through the hassle of nuking the Windows Live tie in.
 
2013-03-07 07:37:42 PM

Smelly McUgly: I am not seeing this when I log into steam, which is a shame as I have wanted to give Tropico a run forever. I mean, sure, I was planning to get into Warhammer this weekend and play some more Alien Crossfire, but Tropico 3 for three bucks and change sounds great!


He's trolling, it's a 'shop.
 
2013-03-07 07:40:12 PM

Yuri Futanari: I don't hate EA like others seem to, Origin isn't all that bad from my limited experience (though I only use it for DA2 and ME3).  It plays nicely with Steam and keeps a low profile.

I do however have a bunch of friends who were excited about Sim City and I was gonna pick up a copy to play with them,  but this clusterfark pretty much makes this game a pass for me, even after they sort out their servers.

/back to Tomb Raider
//and Citadel DLC (ME3)


Origin is heavily hated not because of technical errors, but because it is a form of spyware. The common complaint is that it scans your hard drive.
 
2013-03-07 07:43:04 PM

Smelly McUgly: Tax Boy: CraicBaby: Steam is having a "CIty Sims That Work Offline" Sale.

[i.imgur.com image 850x544]

I am not seeing this when I log into steam, which is a shame as I have wanted to give Tropico a run forever. I mean, sure, I was planning to get into Warhammer this weekend and play some more Alien Crossfire, but Tropico 3 for three bucks and change sounds great!

Maybe it's a good thing that I can't see this screen when I log in.


It is a photoshop. Good old games however, did actually tweet that they were selling sim city 2000 drm free as soon as they heard about EA server problems.
 
2013-03-07 07:43:14 PM

Fluorescent Testicle: Smelly McUgly: I am not seeing this when I log into steam, which is a shame as I have wanted to give Tropico a run forever. I mean, sure, I was planning to get into Warhammer this weekend and play some more Alien Crossfire, but Tropico 3 for three bucks and change sounds great!

He's trolling, it's a 'shop.


I know. Someone had a font-matching issue in making that 'shop. But I was hoping for this poster answering with "put in the Konami code and it pops up" or some such answer. :)
 
2013-03-07 07:43:30 PM

skinink: "/Wondering whether we'll get the "It can't be my machine because it's new!", "Arkham City is the only game that's ever crashed for me ever in my entire life!", or the "I don't care if it's my machine that's the problem, I bought it from Steam so it's their responsibility to fix it" response."
No here's the response. You're a twat. You (all) project that I'm some kind of jerk to them on the phone (tickets can be submitted for issues online) or project that I screwed up, not the game. Though there are threads after threads of others having issues. I know because I looked up everything online before contacting Steam Support. And even after I tried their solutions, nothing worked. Though their other games I've purchased from Steam work. So after the purchases I've made, they can't give a a small credit? Then you project that I was the one who screwed up, and not the game that has issues?

A lot of you guys don't have a clue what you're talking about.


Make up your mind, was it the game or was it Steam?  If it was Steam that was causing the problem, you might have a legitimate gripe.  However, I'm putting money on it being an issue with the game and your configuration (which happens...not every game runs on every system, even when you meet the requirements), which means that you're a whiny biatch with an overdeveloped sense of entitlement for expecting Steam to be different from every other software retailer in existence and give you a refund.

A simple scenario.  Someone buys a game.  It works for a bit, then stops.  They troubleshoot the game, but can't get it to work with their system.  The retailer that sells the game says, "Sorry, no refunds."

Your reaction: "Steam wont counter their own policies, which happen to be the industry standard, and give me a refund, therefore Steam is the worstest!"
A mature adult reaction: "It's not Steam's fault this game doesn't work, perhaps I should contact the people who actually make the game and see what they might be able to do for me."

Get the fark over yourself and stop blaming Steam because they wouldn't capitulate to your whiny demands that should have been directed to Rocksteady and/or WB Interactive in the first place.  We "projected" that you were a jerk because you came in here and posted like a farking jerk.  Jerk.
 
2013-03-07 07:44:46 PM

Smelly McUgly: Tax Boy: CraicBaby: Steam is having a "CIty Sims That Work Offline" Sale.

[i.imgur.com image 850x544]

I am not seeing this when I log into steam, which is a shame as I have wanted to give Tropico a run forever. I mean, sure, I was planning to get into Warhammer this weekend and play some more Alien Crossfire, but Tropico 3 for three bucks and change sounds great!

Maybe it's a good thing that I can't see this screen when I log in.


I won a copy of Tropico 1, 2 & 3 and one of the expansion packs from Steam in their Winter Sale last year. Still haven't played them because I don't find micromanagement sims all that fun.

/should have traded them on the forums instead of activating them. Oh well.
//CSB
 
2013-03-07 07:47:16 PM
I'm installing patches right now.

I don't get it.  How come I download the game, then it has to patch?  Why not give me the latest release?

/This machine kind of sucks, so I'm not keeping my hopes up.  New one is on its way.
 
2013-03-07 07:48:25 PM

cman: This About That: The acronym "EA", when printed on a software package, is really a new rating symbol. It means "DRM gone nuts".

What would you have them do? Not try at all? These companies have been affected by piracy and they are fighting back.

Yeah, it does suck, and yes, there will be some troubles; but you really cannot blame them for trying extreme actions.


Too outlandish an opinion even for a troll.

0/10
 
2013-03-07 07:59:05 PM
I literally haven't played a video game in like 2 years. I was aware of the trouble SimCity was going through in their initial days of launch. Despite this, I purchased the game yesterday. I didn't understand the full scope of "it just doesn't work". I couldn't even imagine it being this ridiculous. I'm not going to go on the argument of "it requires internet connection" and complain. I was fully aware of that. I DO have a stable internet connection. I DO have a computer capable of running the software.

They sell a product at 59.99 that simply doesn't work. That's a BIG problem. I'm talking class-action lawsuit type problem. Anyone here of the recent Microsoft news story where they are being fined about 732 million dollars for making Internet Explorer the default web browser, without giving you a choice in the matter? This makes that look like a cakewalk. Guess what? Anyone with 2 brain cells and 5-10 minutes to spare can download any damn browser they want, and hence, get the workaround.

There is no "work-around" for this. I purchased a product. The product doesn't work. I have no alternative methods to "work-around" the situation. For all of you that downplay this, it is sickening. I'm not a grandstander on stuff like this, honestly. I'm not some super-anti Electronic Arts person spouting off here. I'm not an avid gamer. This is about consumer protection. They are selling a non-working product. Plain and simple.

Let's estimate that 1 million units were sold at $60. That's 60 MILLION dollars of revenue for a product that doesn't deliver. They need to assume responsibility for this. In the words of the Jerky Boys "This is no way to do business my friend". Pony up with some serious servers before you release. Don't penny pinch. Don't treat your customers like THEY are the assholes. Because I promise EA this: pretty soon you won't have ANY customers.

Basically, you took 60 bucks out of my wallet, and told me to piss up a rope. I'm pissed.
 
2013-03-07 08:00:47 PM
I enjoy the suffering of gamers and their enablers.
 
2013-03-07 08:01:07 PM
bwahaha, "server busy.  Next attempt to join: 20 minutes"
This is like AOL
 
2013-03-07 08:02:06 PM

Yuri Futanari: germ78: CraicBaby: Steam is having a "CIty Sims That Work Offline" Sale.

Where have you seen that? I keep looking all over the steam store for it (I want to share it with a friend who was interested in Cities XL) but keep coming up emptyhanded. And I've seen the screengrabs for it, so I know it exists.

You have to refresh the steam main page a few times, with the proper timing.  It's like an easter egg.


I found it. I wasn't letting the 20 minute timer count down all the way before refreshing.
 
2013-03-07 08:05:14 PM

BarkingUnicorn: I enjoy the suffering of gamers and their enablers.


I can understand that, and can even find it mildly funny.

Basically with SimCity though, if you're going to play any video game and label it mildly-educational, this would be the one. I've always had an affinity for civil engineering and urban planning, so naturally I was looking forward to this. It's the one damn video game I had any desire to play in a long time. Not fun paying hard earned money for a whole lot of nothing.

This is beyond the "instantaneous gratification" whining too. I can understand them having kinks to work out. I can understand them needing to beef up their servers. From the feedback I've seen, this eclipses that by a large margin.
 
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