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(Slate)   The new Wizard of Oz movie totally syncs up with Dark Side of the Moon   (slate.com) divider line 45
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2013-03-07 06:14:56 PM
19:20 "Money" kicks in at exactly the moment when James Franco's dive into a giant pile of gold treasure is about 20 minutes or so from happening.

That was funny.
 
2013-03-07 06:20:44 PM
10:37 "Ticking away the moments that make up the dull day": Zach Braff looks bored by what James Franco is saying.

I'm betting this happens a lot for both actors.
 
2013-03-07 06:24:26 PM
Can I buy some pot from you?
 
2013-03-07 06:42:42 PM
That's still got nothing on listening to Wham!'s Make it Big and watching Top Gun.
 
2013-03-07 06:49:26 PM
The first one doesn't sync with Dark Side at all. You have to be really really really high to think it does.
 
2013-03-07 06:52:07 PM
The first 17 minutes of Star Wars: A New Hope also totally syncs with Dark Side of the Moon. Of course, you have to be watching the original theatrical release, before George Lucas screwed up the timing.

/There is no dark side of the Force really, as a matter of fact it's all dark
 
2013-03-07 06:58:00 PM

stuhayes2010: The first one doesn't sync with Dark Side at all. You have to be really really really high to think it does.


So it's just a coincidence that The Greatest Gig in the Sky begins and ends exactly when the tornado scene does?
 
2013-03-07 07:02:31 PM
If you listen to Dark Side of the Moon while watching Transformers: Dark of the Moon, it'll still be a terrible movie.
 
2013-03-07 07:05:21 PM
How well does Zardoz sync up with it?
 
2013-03-07 07:11:26 PM
A lot of albums sync up with a lot of movies. They're called coincidences.
 
2013-03-07 07:12:29 PM

HeartBurnKid: If you listen to Dark Side of the Moon while watching Transformers: Dark of the Moon, it'll still be a terrible movie.


Oh, it's not so bad after you close your eyes.
 
2013-03-07 07:17:52 PM

stuhayes2010: The first one doesn't sync with Dark Side at all. You have to be really really really high to think it does.


It's not the first one.

/pedant
 
2013-03-07 07:28:24 PM
Yeah subby, Shannen Doherty told me that once, but I thought she was just being a b*tch.
 
2013-03-07 07:32:26 PM

Dee Snarl: stuhayes2010: The first one doesn't sync with Dark Side at all. You have to be really really really high to think it does.

It's not the first one.

/pedant


This.

/I wonder if there were any fans of silent movies who claimed the 1937 version raped their childhood when it was first released?
 
2013-03-07 07:48:36 PM

B.L.Z. Bub: Dee Snarl: stuhayes2010: The first one doesn't sync with Dark Side at all. You have to be really really really high to think it does.

It's not the first one.

/pedant

This.

/I wonder if there were any fans of silent movies who claimed the 1937 version raped their childhood when it was first released?


1939.

/still pedantic
//sorry
 
2013-03-07 07:48:37 PM
That's a symptom of too much time on your hands.
 
2013-03-07 08:01:17 PM
So, does it synch when watching a film version in a theater at 24 frames per second, or watching on NTSC video at 29.97 frames per second?
 
2013-03-07 08:02:46 PM

stuhayes2010: You have to be really really really high to think it does.


You say that like it's a bad thing.
 
2013-03-07 08:29:23 PM

gunga galunga: stuhayes2010: The first one doesn't sync with Dark Side at all. You have to be really really really high to think it does.

So it's just a coincidence that The Greatest Gig in the Sky begins and ends exactly when the tornado scene does?



And that Side 2 of the album starts right when the film goes to Oz and turns color.

I don't picture Pink Floyd sitting around in 1972 with a copy of Wizard of Oz synching up song lengths and lyrics to the film.  Well, maybe Syd, but he was out of the band by then.  But I have watched the synch many times, sober and high, and there are several non-imagination stretching connections between the two.
 
2013-03-07 08:31:08 PM

stuhayes2010: The first one doesn't sync with Dark Side at all. You have to be really really really high to think it does.


Actually it isn't bad, there are a few really cool coincidences. I do believe that's all they are but it's worth trying once.


/Don't get high
 
2013-03-07 08:53:04 PM

jj325: gunga galunga: stuhayes2010: The first one doesn't sync with Dark Side at all. You have to be really really really high to think it does.

So it's just a coincidence that The Greatest Gig in the Sky begins and ends exactly when the tornado scene does?


And that Side 2 of the album starts right when the film goes to Oz and turns color.

I don't picture Pink Floyd sitting around in 1972 with a copy of Wizard of Oz synching up song lengths and lyrics to the film.  Well, maybe Syd, but he was out of the band by then.  But I have watched the synch many times, sober and high, and there are several non-imagination stretching connections between the two.


We did it in a film studies class I took. We had cheat sheets with dozens and dozens of things to look out for. It syncs up too perfectly to be coincidence.
 
2013-03-07 08:57:36 PM

jj325: I don't picture Pink Floyd sitting around in 1972 with a copy of Wizard of Oz synching up song lengths and lyrics to the film. Well, maybe Syd, but he was out of the band by then. But I have watched the synch many times, sober and high, and there are several non-imagination stretching connections between the two.


Really, what's going on is that in any frame of film (especially a film as expressive as The Wizard of Oz) there are about a dozen moving things/objects/people/events going on simultaneously. So theoretically, ANY piece of music will sync up with ANY film if you only pay attention to the things that sync up. But for every one that does, there are hundreds of chord progressions, key changes, lyrics, verse/bridges/choruses that pass by with no relation to the film whatsoever. This is what we call sample bias.

The big noticeable one is that the movie fades to color/Oz at the exact moment the album switches to side 2/Money. That is interesting but really just a coincidence. In fact, after that big revelation, the second half of the album has virtually no relation to the film at all. The witch shows up and the music doesn't change (it goes through Money and Us and Them during the Munchkin scene... there are no lyric connections, no chord connections, no spacey Gilmour solo filling in for the Lollipop Guild). And then the rest just falls apart. Any Colour You Like during the Scarecrow scene. And the big, epic, sweeping finale -- Eclipse -- explodes into its fantastic denouement while they're oiling the god damn Tin Man, for crying out loud.
 
2013-03-07 10:52:02 PM

jj325: gunga galunga: stuhayes2010: The first one doesn't sync with Dark Side at all. You have to be really really really high to think it does.

So it's just a coincidence that The Greatest Gig in the Sky begins and ends exactly when the tornado scene does?


And that Side 2 of the album starts right when the film goes to Oz and turns color.

I don't picture Pink Floyd sitting around in 1972 with a copy of Wizard of Oz synching up song lengths and lyrics to the film.  Well, maybe Syd, but he was out of the band by then.  But I have watched the synch many times, sober and high, and there are several non-imagination stretching connections between the two.


This. Don't know if they planned it out not, but it's incredibly cool.

I also found that if you restart the CD on the Cowardly Lion's third roar ( it's tiny so you have to get it at the right moment) when he first comes out, there's some other cool stuff that syncs up.

It's been a while but the two I remember are 1) " Any Color You Like" the door slams shut right on this nasty guitar chord and 2) the Wizard hands the Tin Man his heart just as the album's final heartbeat fades out.

There were others, I just don't remember them.
 
2013-03-07 11:05:54 PM

gunga galunga: stuhayes2010: The first one doesn't sync with Dark Side at all. You have to be really really really high to think it does.

So it's just a coincidence that The Greatest Gig in the Sky begins and ends exactly when the tornado scene does?


No idea. What album is that song on?

But the serious answer is, yes.
 
2013-03-08 12:17:35 AM

Ishkur: jj325: I don't picture Pink Floyd sitting around in 1972 with a copy of Wizard of Oz synching up song lengths and lyrics to the film. Well, maybe Syd, but he was out of the band by then. But I have watched the synch many times, sober and high, and there are several non-imagination stretching connections between the two.

Really, what's going on is that in any frame of film (especially a film as expressive as The Wizard of Oz) there are about a dozen moving things/objects/people/events going on simultaneously. So theoretically, ANY piece of music will sync up with ANY film if you only pay attention to the things that sync up. But for every one that does, there are hundreds of chord progressions, key changes, lyrics, verse/bridges/choruses that pass by with no relation to the film whatsoever. This is what we call sample bias.

The big noticeable one is that the movie fades to color/Oz at the exact moment the album switches to side 2/Money. That is interesting but really just a coincidence. In fact, after that big revelation, the second half of the album has virtually no relation to the film at all. The witch shows up and the music doesn't change (it goes through Money and Us and Them during the Munchkin scene... there are no lyric connections, no chord connections, no spacey Gilmour solo filling in for the Lollipop Guild). And then the rest just falls apart. Any Colour You Like during the Scarecrow scene. And the big, epic, sweeping finale -- Eclipse -- explodes into its fantastic denouement while they're oiling the god damn Tin Man, for crying out loud.


These are the kinds of posts that keep my tiny glimmer of hope for mankind from going out.
 
2013-03-08 03:28:20 AM
I never understood why The Wall never had this synchronicity.
it's like an entire song was erased.
to find the royal philharmonic orchestra covering it.

/wait, what?
 
2013-03-08 06:37:10 AM
While the Dark Side of the Rainbow is just some coincidences (and a good time, to be honest), I do think it would be cool if bands occasionally actually produced albums for that effect. Similarly, imagine an album produced as a custom soundtrack for a silent film - think of the concert possibilities.
 
2013-03-08 06:55:11 AM

Lord Binky: While the Dark Side of the Rainbow is just some coincidences (and a good time, to be honest), I do think it would be cool if bands occasionally actually produced albums for that effect. Similarly, imagine an album produced as a custom soundtrack for a silent film - think of the concert possibilities.


Well Queen did that with Metropolis.
 
2013-03-08 07:39:13 AM

Mugato: Lord Binky: While the Dark Side of the Rainbow is just some coincidences (and a good time, to be honest), I do think it would be cool if bands occasionally actually produced albums for that effect. Similarly, imagine an album produced as a custom soundtrack for a silent film - think of the concert possibilities.

Well Queen did that with Flash Gordon  Metropolis.

 
2013-03-08 07:49:27 AM

moistD: Mugato: Lord Binky: While the Dark Side of the Rainbow is just some coincidences (and a good time, to be honest), I do think it would be cool if bands occasionally actually produced albums for that effect. Similarly, imagine an album produced as a custom soundtrack for a silent film - think of the concert possibilities.

Well Queen did that with Flash Gordon  Metropolis.


But Queen's Flash Gordon was the actual soundtrack. Which was terrible. Which is strange because their Highlander soundtrack was awesome.

Mega_Doof: So, does it synch when watching a film version in a theater at 24 frames per second, or watching on NTSC video at 29.97 frames per second?


The run times would be the same.

/doesn't know if either of you are being sarcastic
 
2013-03-08 07:58:59 AM

moistD: Mugato: Lord Binky: While the Dark Side of the Rainbow is just some coincidences (and a good time, to be honest), I do think it would be cool if bands occasionally actually produced albums for that effect. Similarly, imagine an album produced as a custom soundtrack for a silent film - think of the concert possibilities.

Well Queen did that with Flash Gordon  Metropolis.



Queen's soundtrack for Flash Gordon was awesome, especially since Flash Gordon is king of the universe.

Queen's soundtrack for Highlander was also awesome, especially since Connor Maccloud of clan maccloud didn't want to live forever.

Toto's soundtrack for Dune is a diferents story altogether. I only bought it because my C64 had a music program that played a 3-intrument version of the desrt theme that I loved as a kid. It also had the M.U.L.E. theme too. The C64 was badass, but I digress.
 
2013-03-08 08:10:04 AM

McGrits: Toto's soundtrack for Dune is a diferents story altogether. I only bought it because my C64 had a music program that played a 3-intrument version of the desrt theme that I loved as a kid. It also had the M.U.L.E. theme too. The C64 was badass, but I digress.


Man, I only had a Vic-20.
 
2013-03-08 08:41:29 AM

Lord Binky: While the Dark Side of the Rainbow is just some coincidences (and a good time, to be honest), I do think it would be cool if bands occasionally actually produced albums for that effect. Similarly, imagine an album produced as a custom soundtrack for a silent film - think of the concert possibilities.


Or if a filmmaker cut a film to sync with an existing album.
 
2013-03-08 08:41:50 AM

McGrits: moistD: Mugato: Lord Binky: While the Dark Side of the Rainbow is just some coincidences (and a good time, to be honest), I do think it would be cool if bands occasionally actually produced albums for that effect. Similarly, imagine an album produced as a custom soundtrack for a silent film - think of the concert possibilities.

Well Queen did that with Flash Gordon  Metropolis.


Queen's soundtrack for Flash Gordon was awesome, especially since Flash Gordon is king of the universe.

Queen's soundtrack for Highlander was also awesome, especially since Connor Maccloud of clan maccloud didn't want to live forever.

Toto's soundtrack for Dune is a diferents story altogether. I only bought it because my C64 had a music program that played a 3-intrument version of the desrt theme that I loved as a kid. It also had the M.U.L.E. theme too. The C64 was badass, but I digress.


M.U.L.E. theme song kicked so much ass.  C64 brings so many fond memories, Bulletin Board Systems, my 1200 baud modem was king in the land of 300s, phone phreaking, zero day warez, load times of 10 minutes or more back when you actually could go make a sandwich, eat it, return and your game just might be loaded.
 
2013-03-08 09:35:47 AM
Mugato: But Queen's Flash Gordon was the actual soundtrack. Which was terrible.

BITE YOUR TONGUE!

Queen provided the soundtrack to the greatest cinematic battle of all time. Of ALL TIME.

Even if the rest of the soundtrack is crap (which it isn't, but I'll cede the point to you), this one track more
than makes up for it.
 
2013-03-08 09:38:48 AM

Lord Binky: While the Dark Side of the Rainbow is just some coincidences (and a good time, to be honest), I do think it would be cool if bands occasionally actually produced albums for that effect. Similarly, imagine an album produced as a custom soundtrack for a silent film - think of the concert possibilities.


ecx.images-amazon.com
 
2013-03-08 09:55:26 AM
When I was in high school we got stoned and played Tool's Lateralus with Disney's Fantasia. I remember thinking it was pretty cool, but I think that at this point I just have to realize that a stoned teenage me was just a retard.
 
2013-03-08 09:57:08 AM
It's basically just the "Money" kick-in that makes everyone think it matches up.  But that would work for MANY films, because it's about that far into the film that the entry scenes wrap up and the real core story gets rolling.
 
2013-03-08 10:43:59 AM

cefm: It's basically just the "Money" kick-in that makes everyone think it matches up. But that would work for MANY films, because it's about that far into the film that the entry scenes wrap up and the real core story gets rolling.


In fact, if anything, it's the limitations of vinyl that sync up with Oz, not that specific album.

It's just a coincidence that Dorothy arrives to Oz around the 23 minute mark of the film. This is the exact maximum length of music that vinyl cutters could squeeze onto one side of a 12" vinyl at 33rpm without some serious compression (so no band could record an album longer than about 45 minutes tops before the advent of tape/digital media). So any band -- especially space rock, psychedelic rock or prog rock bands known for long, sweeping soundscapes and noodling movements and sections that seem to go on forever -- that released an album in the 60s or 70s that filled the vinyl to the brim with music will have side A sync up exactly with Oz. Because one side is the same length as Dorothy in Kansas.
 
2013-03-08 10:44:03 AM

stuhayes2010: The first one doesn't sync with Dark Side at all. You have to be really really really high to think it does.


cefm: It's basically just the "Money" kick-in that makes everyone think it matches up.


Digitalstrange: /Don't get high


nope. you're wrong. see ya.
 
2013-03-08 12:01:44 PM
I did something similar with episodes of Lost In Space and Skinny Puppy's  Dig It.
 
2013-03-08 12:44:54 PM

Lord Binky: While the Dark Side of the Rainbow is just some coincidences (and a good time, to be honest), I do think it would be cool if bands occasionally actually produced albums for that effect. Similarly, imagine an album produced as a custom soundtrack for a silent film - think of the concert possibilities.


Pink Floyd did this.

No Joke and they even admit to it freely.

The second side of their album Mettle syncs up and was written for 2001: A Space Odessy scene where Dave goes into the Monolith.
 
2013-03-08 01:54:46 PM
Personally I prefer to synch up Dethablum II with Blood Ocean
 
2013-03-08 11:33:57 PM

Django_gvl: Lord Binky: While the Dark Side of the Rainbow is just some coincidences (and a good time, to be honest), I do think it would be cool if bands occasionally actually produced albums for that effect. Similarly, imagine an album produced as a custom soundtrack for a silent film - think of the concert possibilities.

Pink Floyd did this.

No Joke and they even admit to it freely.

The second side of their album Mettle syncs up and was written for 2001: A Space Odessy scene where Dave goes into the Monolith.


There is no such album.
 
2013-03-11 05:29:41 AM

The Snow Dog: Django_gvl: Lord Binky: While the Dark Side of the Rainbow is just some coincidences (and a good time, to be honest), I do think it would be cool if bands occasionally actually produced albums for that effect. Similarly, imagine an album produced as a custom soundtrack for a silent film - think of the concert possibilities.

Pink Floyd did this.

No Joke and they even admit to it freely.

The second side of their album Mettle syncs up and was written for 2001: A Space Odessy scene where Dave goes into the Monolith.

There is no such album.


Pretty sure he means Meddle. And if anything it's just Echoes that syncs up with that final scene.
 
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