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(CBS San Francisco)   You knew this would happen: Berkeley apparatchik wants to tax email to pay for the Post Office   (sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com) divider line 145
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2013-03-07 05:06:32 PM
Rocket Surgeon, that one. By all means tax email NOW. Not 15 years ago when it was relevant.
 
2013-03-07 05:39:39 PM
Seeing how it's already a crime to not use USPS to deliver non-urgent mail... Why not just tax e-mail?  Makes logical sense for a politician.

Hell, if you pick up a couple of USPS mailers and don't use them to mail something, that's 5 years in prison.
 
2013-03-07 05:57:57 PM
Thank you, Fark, for finding the one man in America who is even more delusional right now than Rand Paul. I knew he had to be  somewhere.
 
2013-03-07 05:58:56 PM
Laugh it up. The next time you are in Miami and want to mail a letter to Nome, Alaska for 46¢, don't come crying to me.
 
2013-03-07 05:58:58 PM
Good luck with that
 
2013-03-07 06:00:52 PM
Funny thing...USPS is actually profitable to the tune of about $1 billion a year. But the GOP in Congress made them PRE-FUND projected health care costs for future retirees. I wonder why they would do that?
 
2013-03-07 06:21:45 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHA

*sighs, wipes tear from his eye after laughing so hard*

Now *that's* a good one.
 
2013-03-07 06:41:01 PM
If this means fewer spam mails in my inbox at home and a reduction in the 150 or so emails i get at work every day, then I am all for it.
 
2013-03-07 07:04:36 PM
Why does this nonsense pop up every few years?
 
2013-03-07 07:07:04 PM
It's totally unnecessary. Just remove the ridiculous requirements placed on the USPS by a group of people that are explicitly trying to kill it, and the USPS operates just fine with the money it currently makes.
 
2013-03-07 07:07:07 PM
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HOLY shiat ITS THE MIAMI FACE EATER!!
 
2013-03-07 07:09:07 PM
I do pay taxes on my email, in the form of some federal tax tossed onto the end of my telcom bill.  I'd also be fine with the governmental nationalizing all the wires and making it so all content providers had equal access across them.  I'll happily pay a tax for that or pay a fee to a public utility al la my energy company.  What I don't get is why morons focus on a per email tax.  The entire idea behind the internet is while is might be pricey to get the fiber to your door, once you have it moving around 1s and 0s has trivial cost.
 
2013-03-07 07:10:55 PM
Typical California city councilman trying to play like he's in the big leagues.

What does city councilman equate to in baseball leagues? A-level semi-pro?
 
2013-03-07 07:11:02 PM

Lucky LaRue: If this means fewer spam mails in my inbox at home and a reduction in the 150 or so emails i get at work every day, then I am all for it.


I'm curious:  What's it like still having AOL?  I only ask because I haven't seen a piece of legitimate spam in my work or home inbox in well I think years and its not because of any sort of magic, just regular gmail and the IT folks at work doing regular things.  How does spam still make it through and what great lengths are you going to in order to ensure everyone spammer collects your email?  Do you know a lot of old people or something?

I'm really curious at this point.
 
2013-03-07 07:11:19 PM
Sooner or later some politician is going to suggest a tax on internet porn or LOLcats, and then the revolution will finally begin.
 
2013-03-07 07:12:03 PM
This is as good a place as any for this I guess, but those cocksucking motherfarking berkeley dipshiat asshole morons can go fark themselves with their indiginous peoples day farking parking meters until i have to drop a quarter into their thieving hypocritical throats to leave my car in a spot for ten minutes, where it will be broken into and used as a urinal by one of the fine upstanding farkwad burners that little uptight millionaire hippie community caters to. fark you and your concrete bollarded one way, fark you if you're not a resident streets, you insignificant delusional mumu-wearing coont-filled jerkburg! Thanks for letting me get that out. You guys are the best.
 
2013-03-07 07:12:24 PM
The only time I read snail mail is when it says IRS on it. Everything else is handled via email here; I wish the IRS would catch up with the times.
 
2013-03-07 07:13:01 PM

Snarfangel: Laugh it up. The next time you are in Miami and want to mail a letter to Nome, Alaska for 46¢, don't come crying to me.


THIS.  Even if this is not the right way to get it done (how about getting rid of the 75 year pension solvency requirement?), privatizing the USPS is a non-starter (unless you're wanting to kill the USPS and raid its assets)
 
2013-03-07 07:13:11 PM

Lucky LaRue: If this means fewer spam mails in my inbox at home and a reduction in the 150 or so emails i get at work every day, then I am all for it.


Actually it means an increase in a large number of people's isp bills.  The spammers don't use their own connection to send you that crap.  Instead they use bot nets to send out most of the crap that is out there
 
2013-03-07 07:13:28 PM
There should also be a tax on automobiles to help subsidize stagecoaches.
 
2013-03-07 07:13:39 PM

ha-ha-guy: I do pay taxes on my email, in the form of some federal tax tossed onto the end of my telcom bill.  I'd also be fine with the governmental nationalizing all the wires and making it so all content providers had equal access across them.  I'll happily pay a tax for that or pay a fee to a public utility al la my energy company.  What I don't get is why morons focus on a per email tax.  The entire idea behind the internet is while is might be pricey to get the fiber to your door, once you have it moving around 1s and 0s has trivial cost.


Agreed.
 
2013-03-07 07:14:16 PM

uber humper: Typical California city councilman trying to play like he's in the big leagues.

What does city councilman equate to in baseball leagues? A-level semi-pro?


Nope.  T-Ball.
 
2013-03-07 07:14:39 PM

BumpInTheNight: Lucky LaRue: If this means fewer spam mails in my inbox at home and a reduction in the 150 or so emails i get at work every day, then I am all for it.

I'm curious:  What's it like still having AOL?  I only ask because I haven't seen a piece of legitimate spam in my work or home inbox in well I think years and its not because of any sort of magic, just regular gmail and the IT folks at work doing regular things.  How does spam still make it through and what great lengths are you going to in order to ensure everyone spammer collects your email?  Do you know a lot of old people or something?


I'm really curious at this point.



Look out folks - we got us an electrical mail snob in the house.

 
2013-03-07 07:15:07 PM

ginandbacon: Funny thing...USPS is actually profitable to the tune of about $1 billion a year. But the GOP in Congress made them PRE-FUND projected health care costs for future retirees. I wonder why they would do that?


That pre-funding would be a great place to start when looking to cut something large.  However, it'd make it impossible for someone to justify privatizing a profitable company.
 
2013-03-07 07:15:08 PM
was he gay?  this is important news, says the alert system.
 
2013-03-07 07:15:27 PM
We should tax sext msgs too!
 
2013-03-07 07:15:29 PM
This story again? Hasn't someone floated this idea every 6 months since 1998?
 
2013-03-07 07:16:37 PM
They could have stayed relevant by offering a email/txt/etc to mail / mail to email/txt/etc  service. Long ago.
 
2013-03-07 07:17:17 PM

ginandbacon: Funny thing...USPS is actually profitable to the tune of about $1 billion a year. But the GOP in Congress made them PRE-FUND projected health care costs for future retirees. I wonder why they would do that?




You didn't read the article, did you? Even without the prepaid health funding they lost over $2b lol
 
2013-03-07 07:17:59 PM
I'd rather see a tax on every stock transaction. Generate revenue and cut down on the massive computer-enabled speculation.
 
2013-03-07 07:19:05 PM

SpdrJay: We should tax sext msgs too!


Why do you want to punish congressmen?
 
2013-03-07 07:19:14 PM

ginandbacon: Funny thing...USPS is actually profitable to the tune of about $1 billion a year. But the GOP in Congress made them PRE-FUND projected health care costs for future retirees. I wonder why they would do that?


None of their friends are making any money off the Post Office. Can't have that. It MUST BE DESTROYED. Even though it's authorized in the farking Constitution.
 
2013-03-07 07:20:14 PM

uber humper: What does city councilman equate to in baseball leagues? A-level semi-pro?


Little League bench warmer.
 
2013-03-07 07:21:26 PM

giftedmadness: ginandbacon: Funny thing...USPS is actually profitable to the tune of about $1 billion a year. But the GOP in Congress made them PRE-FUND projected health care costs for future retirees. I wonder why they would do that?



You didn't read the article, did you? Even without the prepaid health funding they lost over $2b lol


I was waiting for someone to point this out. Or the fact the "prefunding" is to pay for actualized pension returns as opposed to projected
 
2013-03-07 07:22:31 PM

fusillade762: ginandbacon: Funny thing...USPS is actually profitable to the tune of about $1 billion a year. But the GOP in Congress made them PRE-FUND projected health care costs for future retirees. I wonder why they would do that?

None of their friends are making any money off the Post Office. Can't have that. It MUST BE DESTROYED. Even though it's authorized in the farking Constitution.


So is the right to bear arms, but that doesn't stop libtards from trying to destroy that.
 
2013-03-07 07:23:40 PM
He dun goofed.
 
2013-03-07 07:26:39 PM

ginandbacon: Funny thing...USPS is actually profitable to the tune of about $1 billion a year. But the GOP in Congress made them PRE-FUND projected health care costs for future retirees. I wonder why they would do that?


Any chance you have a reference for that?
I will make my mom crazy with it...
 
2013-03-07 07:28:14 PM
Here's an idea, how bout YOU ALTER THE 2006 LAW THAT CREATED THIS FARKING MESS IN THE FIRST FARKING PLACE
 
2013-03-07 07:28:28 PM
What do you want to bet that "political" emails would be exempt?
 
2013-03-07 07:28:34 PM

unlikely: ginandbacon: Funny thing...USPS is actually profitable to the tune of about $1 billion a year. But the GOP in Congress made them PRE-FUND projected health care costs for future retirees. I wonder why they would do that?

Any chance you have a reference for that?
I will make my mom crazy with it...




Letters: The Postal Service's pension predicament - Los Angeles Times
 
2013-03-07 07:29:25 PM
Just tax cats on the Internet.
You want to put your cute little kitty picture on the Internet? Two dollars.
World economy solved.
 
2013-03-07 07:31:28 PM
Can somebody explain to me why more Americans aren't enraged about the "Postal Accountability and Enhancement Act of 2006?"

We're already trillions of dollars in debt, and yet the Post Office is being forced to take taxpayer money and stick it into a pension fund for USPS employees that haven't even been born yet. In the meantime, the debt goes up, post offices close, services get cut, and everybody except for the Republican donors who paid for this bill loses.

Why the fark aren't more people angry about this?
 
2013-03-07 07:32:11 PM

ginandbacon: Funny thing...USPS is actually profitable to the tune of about $1 billion a year. But the GOP in Congress made them PRE-FUND projected health care costs for future retirees. I wonder why they would do that?


If it wasn't funded and the USPS skimped on that in the future you'd probably biatch about that too. Hell, there's regular protests in this area against a coal company doing exactly that- cutting health benefits to retirees.

I'm not saying it's ideal, I'm saying the workers definitely benefit from it. This way their future health isn't on the chopping block when a bunch of chiefs decide to give themselves bonuses at the expense of the workers.
 
2013-03-07 07:32:37 PM
Yes, tax email, but not JUST for the revenue.

A tax of 1 cent for every email over 1million sent from a particular IP address would put spammers out of business and relieve a HUGE burden of unwanted/unnecessary traffic on our networks.
 
2013-03-07 07:33:22 PM

unlikely: ginandbacon: Funny thing...USPS is actually profitable to the tune of about $1 billion a year. But the GOP in Congress made them PRE-FUND projected health care costs for future retirees. I wonder why they would do that?

Any chance you have a reference for that?
I will make my mom crazy with it...


Well, it certainly wouldn't be the article itself, since it said the post still would have lost $2.4 billion without having to pre-pay pensions.
 
2013-03-07 07:34:18 PM
who will pay for the telegraph service?
 
2013-03-07 07:34:42 PM

udhq: Yes, tax email, but not JUST for the revenue.

A tax of 1 cent for every email over 1million sent from a particular IP address would put spammers out of business and relieve a HUGE burden of unwanted/unnecessary traffic on our networks.


The tubes are nowhere close to being clogged.  There's tons of dark fiber sitting there, but activating it gets rid of an excuse for ISPs to impose quotas and charge users for going over them.
 
2013-03-07 07:35:46 PM

netizencain: Seeing how it's already a crime to not use USPS to deliver non-urgent mail...


You's trolling
 
2013-03-07 07:36:02 PM

uber humper: Typical California city councilman trying to play like he's in the big leagues.

What does city councilman equate to in baseball leagues? A-level semi-pro?


Some random dude walking down the street, swinging a bat.

/they're a lot more likely to have deep and lasting impacts on the people they're supposed to serve.
 
2013-03-07 07:36:20 PM

udhq: Yes, tax email, but not JUST for the revenue.


Most taxes now days are essentially punishments to corral people into a certain line so that would be a hard pill to swallow.
 
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