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2013-03-07 05:05:57 PM

Fluorescent Testicle: LessO2: And as much good she has done as SOS, she still, has too much baggage.

What's the baggage, though? I can only think of her husband's philandering, which has fark all to do with her, and SO MANY BENGHAZIS, which would only serve to push people away from the GOP.


Most of it is Republican attempts at smears in the 90s:  Travelgate, Vince Foster, stuff involving the stock market, Whitewater, her alleged defense of some Black Panthers.  It's all bullshiat, not of it stuck then, but it will all be brought back, ten times louder, if she becomes the Democratic nominee in '16.
 
2013-03-07 05:06:42 PM

Fluorescent Testicle: LessO2: And as much good she has done as SOS, she still, has too much baggage.

What's the baggage, though? I can only think of her husband's philandering, which has fark all to do with her, and SO MANY BENGHAZIS, which would only serve to push people away from the GOP.


You know ... the baggage.  Of being married to a wildly popular former President.  Of being in the White House during one of the greatest economic booms in modern history.   Of being a babyboomer when babyboomers will be, by far, the dominant voting demo in 2016.   Of being a woman when more women are engaged in the political process than ever.

All that horrible, horrible, horrible baggage.   Very polarizing ... that's why she's only currently getting a 70% approval rating.
 
2013-03-07 05:08:36 PM

HighOnCraic: Fluorescent Testicle: LessO2: And as much good she has done as SOS, she still, has too much baggage.

What's the baggage, though? I can only think of her husband's philandering, which has fark all to do with her, and SO MANY BENGHAZIS, which would only serve to push people away from the GOP.

Most of it is Republican attempts at smears in the 90s:  Travelgate, Vince Foster, stuff involving the stock market, Whitewater, her alleged defense of some Black Panthers.  It's all bullshiat, not of it stuck then, but it will all be brought back, ten times louder, if she becomes the Democratic nominee in '16.


Which demo is that stuff going to hurt her with?  Rabid Rush Limbaugh listeners?
 
2013-03-07 05:18:50 PM

InmanRoshi: Fluorescent Testicle: LessO2: And as much good she has done as SOS, she still, has too much baggage.

What's the baggage, though? I can only think of her husband's philandering, which has fark all to do with her, and SO MANY BENGHAZIS, which would only serve to push people away from the GOP.

You know ... the baggage.  Of being married to a wildly popular former President.  Of being in the White House during one of the greatest economic booms in modern history.   Of being a babyboomer when babyboomers will be, by far, the dominant voting demo in 2016.   Of being a woman when more women are engaged in the political process than ever.

All that horrible, horrible, horrible baggage.   Very polarizing ... that's why she's only currently getting a 70% approval rating.


I agree that the "baggage" is all nonsense, but it might hurt her if the Republicans scream it loudly enough.

/Part of me wants to hear guys like Limbaugh call for Vince Foster's body to be dug up. . .
 
2013-03-07 05:24:18 PM

HighOnCraic: I agree that the "baggage" is all nonsense, but it might hurt her if the Republicans scream it loudly enough.


Hell no. At this point, every time the Republicans cry wolf, they lose a few thousand more voters. Even some of the trolls have been getting tired of it.
 
2013-03-07 05:26:22 PM

Fluorescent Testicle: HighOnCraic: I agree that the "baggage" is all nonsense, but it might hurt her if the Republicans scream it loudly enough.

Hell no. At this point, every time the Republicans cry wolf, they lose a few thousand more voters. Even some of the trolls have been getting tired of it.


aww cmon, you live for that shiat, Glownads.
 
2013-03-07 05:27:38 PM
Meh
Is this the same Hillary that was going to crush a relatively unknown senator from Illinois?
 
2013-03-07 05:30:30 PM
I'm so damned glad Hillary beat Giuliani in the 2008 elections.
 
2013-03-07 05:33:36 PM
That is one sexy headline.

\looking for tub of Crisco and a plastic tarp.
 
2013-03-07 05:33:58 PM
This battle station Hillary is now the ultimate power in the universe...

4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-03-07 05:37:39 PM

InmanRoshi: HighOnCraic: Fluorescent Testicle: LessO2: And as much good she has done as SOS, she still, has too much baggage.

What's the baggage, though? I can only think of her husband's philandering, which has fark all to do with her, and SO MANY BENGHAZIS, which would only serve to push people away from the GOP.

Most of it is Republican attempts at smears in the 90s:  Travelgate, Vince Foster, stuff involving the stock market, Whitewater, her alleged defense of some Black Panthers.  It's all bullshiat, not of it stuck then, but it will all be brought back, ten times louder, if she becomes the Democratic nominee in '16.

Which demo is that stuff going to hurt her with?  Rabid Rush Limbaugh listeners?


True, it might not be the decisive factor in the election (as I said, it didn't stick back then, either).  Part of me just dreads hearing it again; part of me delights in the idea of seeing the spectacle of Republicans demanding more memos from the Rose Law Firm, etc.
 
2013-03-07 05:42:17 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: Meh
Is this the same Hillary that was going to crush a relatively unknown senator from Illinois?


No, this is cyborg Hillary constructed with  mimetic polyalloy.
 
2013-03-07 05:42:49 PM

Kuta: Has to be said, again, and ad nauseam until the election...

HILLARY CANNOT WIN IN 2016. SHE WILL BE TOO OLD. SHE HAS TOO MUCH BAGGAGE.

She was a great Secretary of State. She'll make a great Senator from Illnois, or a decent Supreme Court Justice. But she is not the right Democrat for 2016. Start looking for real alternatives.


This. Joe Biden is too old too.
 
2013-03-07 05:49:14 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: Meh
Is this the same Hillary that was going to crush a relatively unknown senator from Illinois?



this just in: democrats voting against democrats in the primaries is exactly the same as them voting against republicans in the general election.
 
2013-03-07 05:53:59 PM

dionysusaur: sorry, but Hil is the one candidate that, assuming the R party manages to nominate somone who appears sane, guarantees a D loss.

/ that's a biiiig if, though.


Well, you know what happens when you assume.


You use a verb that means "suppose to be the case, without proof: "afraid of what people are going to assume".
 
2013-03-07 05:58:04 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: Meh
Is this the same Hillary that was going to crush a relatively unknown senator from Illinois?


Yep.  And if that relatively unknown Senator from Illinois hadn't been a phenom who would eventually go on to win two back to back General Elections with 330+ electoral votes, she probably would have easily walked away with the Presidency too.

Luckily for her there's no Obamas coming up through the Democratic Party for 2016, and the the GOP are .... well, the GOP.   At the rate the GOP are going to alienate people, and judging by their party approval rating, the Maryland Gubernatorial General Election might have more suspense than the 2016 Presidential Election.
 
2013-03-07 06:18:22 PM

Koalaesq: If Christie did run, any bets on whether he would carry New Jersey? He did ok during Sandy, but pissed off a LOT of teachers and cops. Plus we're pretty blue to begin with. It would be embarrassing if he didn't carry his own home state.



www.examiner.com
 
2013-03-07 08:13:38 PM

oldfarthenry: I surprise the ol' gay can spread her legs wide-enough to straddle that girth.


Iron Shiek? Is that you?
 
2013-03-07 09:09:38 PM
In the current field, and being realistic that people like Warren might be too liberal to survive media attack, I would love to see Hilldawg run again. If anything it's because she was Sec.of State, and I can't think of a better 4 year education in political reality than that.

There's not going to be a superstar, refreshing candidate like Fartbama in '16 (as things stand now). She could easily be nominated for this one. The ball is in her court.
 
2013-03-07 09:26:59 PM

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Perhaps a better match:
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2013-03-07 10:16:43 PM

Tommy Moo: Mark my words: Christie is the only Republican I'm afraid of. Clinton is very popular because she has been quietly doing a good job, but forcing her to debate Christie will even things out. He's tenacious, and has a way of making liberal policies sound very silly in front of a camera, even to common people that would actually be helped by a net shift to the left in this country.


People say he isn't crazy enough to win the primary.  You what he'll do?  Someone will say something crazy on-stage during a debate, and HE'LL CALL THEM CRAZY.  He'll call them on their bullshiat, go all alpha male on their ass, and the 'Pubs loves 'em an alpha male.  He's still plenty conservative, and we'll see that if he gets elected, but he won't feel the need to cater to the crazies. He IS a good candidate: plenty conservative enough to help the House do a lot of damage if elected, but he seems reasonable because he's not batshiat crazy.

Which reminds me, I gotta get that picture out of my profile.
 
2013-03-07 10:38:17 PM

This Face Left Blank: People say he isn't crazy enough to win the primary. You what he'll do? Someone will say something crazy on-stage during a debate, and HE'LL CALL THEM CRAZY. He'll call them on their bullshiat, go all alpha male on their ass, and the 'Pubs loves 'em an alpha male.


They love to hear people "stick it to da libs".  They don't like to be called out on their crazy.    Rick Perry's long swirl down the toilet bowl in the 2012 began when he told the GOPers to "have a heart" because he wasn't willing to weanie roast 'Messicans on electric fences.

There's a reason why he couldn't even get a passing invite to CPAC.  Christie was seen praising Obama.  In public.    He's done for on the National stage as a Republican.   Any GOP opponent can just play that on infinite loop on smear ads, and Chrisie will be lucky to get 5% of the vote.
 
2013-03-07 11:11:57 PM

Supes: Honestly I think Rubio eeks out the 2016 GOP nomination


I don't think he's going to make it.  I don't think he's ready for primetime, he's going to get outflanked on the right on immigration and ... honestly .... I just don't think he's that talented of a politician.

As hilarious as it have seemed to me just a few months ago,  I  think Rand Paul is going to be the favorite.  I know judging by my facebook from the derpers I went to high school with  in Texas he's the the "true conservative" darling at the moment.   He's a bit like Dubya ....  He can get the TeaParty and the Club for Growth money behind him, given that he can both social DERP and preach massive deregulation simultaneously.      Of course, he also doesn't believe in Civil Rights Laws and he's just going to exacerbate the growing demo/messaging problem the GOP have, but I really believe the GOP are going to have to hit a rock bottom in 2016 just like the Democrats hit in 1988 with Dukakis.  Right now they think they're in their position just because there is too much  Cult of Personality around Obama, not because their policies are just really that repugnant to most American people.   They're going to need a wakeup call to snap out of it, and that will probably have to be a "true conservative" getting steamrolled by 150+ EVs.
 
2013-03-07 11:46:36 PM

Kuta: Has to be said, again, and ad nauseam until the election...

HILLARY CANNOT WIN IN 2016. SHE WILL BE TOO OLD. SHE HAS TOO MUCH BAGGAGE.

She was a great Secretary of State. She'll make a great Senator from Illnois, or a decent Supreme Court Justice. But she is not the right Democrat for 2016. Start looking for real alternatives.


hillary couldn't beat an unknown black guy for the nomination, do you really expect her to be president?
 
2013-03-08 12:01:48 AM

Curious: hillary couldn't beat an unknown black guy for the nomination, do you really expect her to be president?


The unknown black guy was always seen as the next great hope"of the Democatic Party, ever since he brought down the house at the 2004 DNC.  It just happened a little sooner than everyone thought it would.   He then proved to be Secretariat of campaigners, winning two consecutive general elections by 330+ EVs when people were writing off the Democratic Party for dead just 2-3 years earlier.

So, yeah, I don't really judge Hillary's performance against a once in a generation phenom politician and try to project it against the weaksauce field that's shaping up for 2016.
 
2013-03-08 12:02:43 AM

Tommy Moo: Mark my words: Christie is the only Republican I'm afraid of. Clinton is very popular because she has been quietly doing a good job, but forcing her to debate Christie will even things out. He's tenacious, and has a way of making liberal policies sound very silly in front of a camera, even to common people that would actually be helped by a net shift to the left in this country.


This shouldn't be a problem then, as Hillary is not liberal.
 
2013-03-08 12:49:25 AM

InmanRoshi: Laughing at anyone who thinks Hillary will be "too old".   She's a babyboomer, and babyboomers will be the biggest age demo that votes in 2016 by a  considerable margin.


They'll vote for her IF she runs. IF.

As Sparta said to Philip of Macedon.
 
2013-03-08 01:24:42 AM

RexTalionis: There's an image that you need to scour out of your brain with Brillo.


I think it will take something stronger than that.  Yeesh!
 
2013-03-08 01:25:28 AM

Gyrfalcon: InmanRoshi: Laughing at anyone who thinks Hillary will be "too old".   She's a babyboomer, and babyboomers will be the biggest age demo that votes in 2016 by a  considerable margin.

They'll vote for her IF she runs. IF.

As Sparta said to Philip of Macedon.


I thought the Spartans said the more laconic "fark you"
 
2013-03-08 03:49:16 AM
If you want to piss off a Hillary fan, ask them to name an accomplishment of hers. Shuts them right up.
 
2013-03-08 06:14:49 AM

Bucky Katt: Gyrfalcon: InmanRoshi: Laughing at anyone who thinks Hillary will be "too old".   She's a babyboomer, and babyboomers will be the biggest age demo that votes in 2016 by a  considerable margin.

They'll vote for her IF she runs. IF.

As Sparta said to Philip of Macedon.

I thought the Spartans said the more laconic "fark you"


It may have translated to the same thing in Ancient Greek.
 
2013-03-08 09:38:54 AM

obviousfakename: If you want to piss off a Hillary fan, ask them to name an accomplishment of hers. Shuts them right up.


If you want to piss off a  Santorum fan, ask them to name an accomplishment of his. Shuts them right up.

If you want to piss off a  Ryan fan, ask them to name an accomplishment of his. Shuts them right up.

If you want to piss off a  Rubio fan, ask them to name an accomplishment of his. Shuts them right up.

This game is fun, shall we play some more?
 
2013-03-08 10:17:15 AM

Stone Meadow: If you want to piss off a Santorum fan, ask them to name an accomplishment of his. Shuts them right up.


An incumbent Senator losing re-election by 19% of the vote is a pretty amazing accomplishment.
 
2013-03-08 10:31:12 AM
You guys will be shocked when it's a Clinton/Christie ticket in 2016. Shocked, I say!

/You heard it here first.
//Shocked!
 
2013-03-08 10:36:43 AM
 
2013-03-08 10:38:26 AM

InmanRoshi: Stone Meadow: If you want to piss off a Santorum fan, ask them to name an accomplishment of his. Shuts them right up.

An incumbent Senator losing re-election by 19% of the vote is a pretty amazing accomplishment.


Well, yes...there IS that. ;^)

Snarfangel: You guys will be shocked when it's a Clinton/Christie ticket in 2016. Shocked, I say!

/You heard it here first.
//Shocked!


Nah...Clinton/Villaraigosa.
 
2013-03-08 04:31:33 PM

TheOther: Emposter: Interesting, when did Nate start posting opinion pieces without data?

He's a well written, really smart guy, and very well informed, but if he doesn't stick to the math and starts getting into the nonsense-half of political so-called-analysis, he's gonna end up like all the other "experts"--saying something stupid and getting discredited.

He's got the math-based-politics territory well dominated...he doesn't need to expand into the bullshiat-based-politics territory that everyone else wins and make himself look bad. I like him better as the aloof super-math-prophet.

Silver's one data-point was that Christie wasn't invited to the CPAC orgy, where he's previously been welcome.  It's more of a 0/I thing than a % thing.  YMMV


To be fair, he sucked at the Republican Convention. Made a warmup speech for Romney that barely mentioned Romney but droned on and on about some supposedly awesome dude from NJ.
 
2013-03-08 04:54:49 PM

Gdiguy: Grungehamster: I have to figure Republicans have something rich on Hillary. Did you see how quick they were to push backing her over Obama in 2008? Did you see how hard they were pushing the idea that Obama should totally take Biden off the ticket and add Hillary as a running mate in 2012?

Even if they didn't, prepare to hear "what difference at this point does it make" to be repeated out of context for 8 months straight as shorthand for "Hillary doesn't care about dead Americans."

Honestly, at this point I don't know whether that's actually true, or whether they've just all deluded themselves into believing that the average American hates Hillary as much as the right wing does and would absolutely never vote for her in a general election.


I'm pretty sure this is the explanation. They managed to convince themselves they could easily beat Obama.
 
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