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2013-03-07 02:57:10 PM  

Kuta: Has to be said, again, and ad nauseam until the election...

HILLARY CANNOT WIN IN 2016. SHE WILL BE TOO OLD. SHE HAS TOO MUCH BAGGAGE.

She was a great Secretary of State. She'll make a great Senator from Illnois, or a decent Supreme Court Justice. But she is not the right Democrat for 2016. Start looking for real alternatives.


Republican like typing detected
 
2013-03-07 02:57:48 PM  
I have to figure Republicans have something rich on Hillary. Did you see how quick they were to push backing her over Obama in 2008? Did you see how hard they were pushing the idea that Obama should totally take Biden off the ticket and add Hillary as a running mate in 2012?

Even if they didn't, prepare to hear "what difference at this point does it make" to be repeated out of context for 8 months straight as shorthand for "Hillary doesn't care about dead Americans."
 
2013-03-07 02:59:17 PM  
Am I the only one who wants to see what kind of shiatpile the 2016 GOP primaries are? Might even be better than 2012...

// unless the Crazy Train candidate actually wins them this time
// we expect Sleazy 80s Guy to win the primary with GodSquad McBiblebeater riding shotgun, not the other way 'round
 
2013-03-07 02:59:20 PM  
Only a Democrat could testify like she did on Benghazi and remain popular.
 
2013-03-07 03:00:51 PM  

Emposter: Poll shows that Christie is strongest Republican

Christie lifts hundreds of pounds on a regular basis.  Heh.  Heh heh.

Seriously though, somebody post that video of the fat guy lifting a helicopter.  Fat people are hella strong inertially gifted.

 
2013-03-07 03:01:26 PM  

farkstorm: Lost Thought 00: Kuta: Has to be said, again, and ad nauseam until the election...

HILLARY CANNOT WIN IN 2016. SHE WILL BE TOO OLD. SHE HAS TOO MUCH BAGGAGE.

She was a great Secretary of State. She'll make a great Senator from Illnois, or a decent Supreme Court Justice. But she is not the right Democrat for 2016. Start looking for real alternatives.

Why would she move to IL?


Why did she move to New York?


Better pizza
 
2013-03-07 03:01:53 PM  

randomjsa: Only a Democrat could testify like she did on Benghazi and remain popular.


upload.wikimedia.org

Weapons sales to Iran? What are weapons? How about a jelly bean?

 
2013-03-07 03:02:00 PM  

Grungehamster: I have to figure Republicans have something rich on Hillary. Did you see how quick they were to push backing her over Obama in 2008? Did you see how hard they were pushing the idea that Obama should totally take Biden off the ticket and add Hillary as a running mate in 2012?

Even if they didn't, prepare to hear "what difference at this point does it make" to be repeated out of context for 8 months straight as shorthand for "Hillary doesn't care about dead Americans."


Honestly, at this point I don't know whether that's actually true, or whether they've just all deluded themselves into believing that the average American hates Hillary as much as the right wing does and would absolutely never vote for her in a general election.
 
2013-03-07 03:02:11 PM  
I've been saying since Obama won the election that the next president will be the winner of the Democratic primary. The general won't even matter.

Why? Simple, no electable Republican can survive the Republican primary. And it's not even close. The process seems designed to produce candidates that are so to the right of the general public, that Democrats could run the exhumed corpse of Chavez as their presidential candidate, and people would still vote for the him over what the Republicans are running.
 
2013-03-07 03:02:49 PM  

Smoking GNU: really? ALREADY? America JUST finished with the last election. How about you lot concentrate on NOW instead of in 4 years?


There are people already planning 2020. This election thing is getting out of control.
 
2013-03-07 03:03:41 PM  

xanadian: That was a mental image I could've done without.  Now, excuse me while I go clear my head.

[i249.photobucket.com image 85x85]


yep
 
2013-03-07 03:03:49 PM  

Gosling: HILLARY ISN'T RUNNING

FIND ANOTHER CANDIDATE

STOP SLOBBERING THE CLINTON KNOB FOR FIVE MINUTES


Wishful thinking much?

Being POTUS has been the focus of her life for the past 6 years and isn't going to go away. She wants a quiet life as gramdma about as much as Maggie Thatcher in 1980, and is every bit as ambitious. She'd going to be our next president, so you might as well lean back and enjoy it.
 
2013-03-07 03:05:56 PM  
sorry, but Hil is the one candidate that, assuming the R party manages to nominate somone who appears sane, guarantees a D loss.

/ that's a biiiig if, though.
 
2013-03-07 03:06:08 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: randomjsa: Only a Democrat could testify like she did on Benghazi and remain popular.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 220x275]

Weapons sales to Iran? What are weapons? How about a jelly bean?


There you go again.
 
2013-03-07 03:06:46 PM  

Stone Meadow: Being POTUS has been the focus of her life for the past 6 years and isn't going to go away. She wants a quiet life as gramdma about as much as Maggie Thatcher in 1980, and is every bit as ambitious. She'd going to be our next president, so you might as well lean back and enjoy it.


I'm going to enjoy watching the GOP implode into Whigs 2 Electric Boogalo when she gets elected
 
2013-03-07 03:08:38 PM  

MyKingdomForYourHorse: Stone Meadow: Being POTUS has been the focus of her life for the past 6 years and isn't going to go away. She wants a quiet life as gramdma about as much as Maggie Thatcher in 1980, and is every bit as ambitious. She'd going to be our next president, so you might as well lean back and enjoy it.

I'm going to enjoy watching the GOP implode into Whigs 2 Electric Boogalo when she gets elected


Any odds on who will be the first Republitard to call her a biatch in public? ;^)
 
2013-03-07 03:12:17 PM  

randomjsa: Only a Democrat could testify like she did on Benghazi and remain popular.


www.rjgeib.com "Hey wassup? Is Benghazi a scandal yet?"
 
2013-03-07 03:12:45 PM  
If Christie would renounce the bible pounding faction during a campaign I'd vote for him over most people.
 
2013-03-07 03:13:11 PM  

randomjsa: Only a Democrat could testify like she did on Benghazi and remain popular.


"waaaahhh why dont people like us?"

Really? Not even trying anymore. =(
 
2013-03-07 03:13:28 PM  

Summer Glau's Love Slave: What does Nate Silver say about this?

/Just let him pick the President from now on.
//Think of the time and money saved.


At this point, I'm willing to be he says "not enough data."
 
2013-03-07 03:14:09 PM  
The GOP will run a Latino female.......because they honestly think that is all it takes to make amends with minorities.
 
2013-03-07 03:15:59 PM  

Citrate1007: a Latino female


A Latina?
 
2013-03-07 03:18:02 PM  

Cheron: TuteTibiImperes: I like Christie, and I agree that if I were going to vote for a republican he seems like one of the best options (still like Jon Huntsman too).

Of course, it won't really matter in the end.  The next election is Hillary's in a landslide as long as she doesn't do something monumentally boneheaded.  Hopefully putting Hillary in office would put Bill into an even more active position.

neither stands a chance with hardcore Republicans that vote in primaries


Since when do Teatards vote in Democratic primaries?
 
2013-03-07 03:18:55 PM  

vernonFL: Citrate1007: a Latino female

A Latina?


But not a wise one with the courage of her convictions.

// that's socialism
// and a seat away from lesbianism
 
2013-03-07 03:19:09 PM  

mahuika: Pff, stupid liberal media polls putting Libs against Libs. We all know who the real contenders are.

[www.cathousechat.com image 400x343]


In my dreams, the Crazy Train splits off from the RINOs and we end up with a 3 party race.

Oh, the LULZ we'd have.
 
2013-03-07 03:19:33 PM  

Huggermugger: Cheron: TuteTibiImperes: I like Christie, and I agree that if I were going to vote for a republican he seems like one of the best options (still like Jon Huntsman too).

Of course, it won't really matter in the end.  The next election is Hillary's in a landslide as long as she doesn't do something monumentally boneheaded.  Hopefully putting Hillary in office would put Bill into an even more active position.

neither stands a chance with hardcore Republicans that vote in primaries

Since when do Teatards vote in Democratic primaries?


I had to read it a couple times too, but I think "neither" refers to Christie and Huntsman, not Christie and Clinton.
 
2013-03-07 03:19:37 PM  
I'm not so sure he'd make it through the primaries.

I think he'd win New Hampshire easily and probably either win or come within the top 3 in Iowa but after that it's debatable he can win in elections when generally only crazy diehards come out in the South and Midwest.
 
2013-03-07 03:21:48 PM  

Fluorescent Testicle: [words]


Clarification: I'll still be voting for her proudly if she does decide to run (she's probably the most qualified person in the country), I just think that the news cycle needs to lay off her for a while and let her recover.

Also, it's not even close to being 2016 yet, but mostly the health scare thing.
 
2013-03-07 03:22:24 PM  
Christies problem is his party. He's a moderate in a party that believes that ideological purity is an imperative. He can either try to repackage himself as an extremist, so he could win the GOP primaries but face significant problems in the general election, or he could maintain his reasonable, relatively moderate positions, and lose to some jackass like Rand Paul.
 
2013-03-07 03:23:10 PM  

Citrate1007: The GOP will run a Latino female.......because they honestly think that is all it takes to make amends with minorities.


They don't give their token [insert discriminated group here] positions of power.  They give them positions worthy of their token status, like Chair of the Committee for Procuring Kitchen Supplies and Napkins.
 
2013-03-07 03:23:39 PM  
I love predicting politics! It makes me look so smart!!
 
2013-03-07 03:24:15 PM  

Emposter: Summer Glau's Love Slave: What does Nate Silver say about this?

/Just let him pick the President from now on.
//Think of the time and money saved.

At this point, I'm willing to be he says "not enough data."


He's already posted this article about how much the bloom is off the rose for Christie with Republicans.
 
2013-03-07 03:26:36 PM  
You've finally done it internet. You went and invented something I couldn't fap to.
Now please dispose of this thread properly before rule 34 kicks into effect.

dl.dropbox.com
 
2013-03-07 03:28:39 PM  
www.misterfadedglory.com

/you're a jerk, subby
 
2013-03-07 03:29:19 PM  
What about Meeeeeeeeeeeee? Miss meee yet?

upload.democraticunderground.com
 
2013-03-07 03:30:09 PM  

Grungehamster: Emposter: Summer Glau's Love Slave: What does Nate Silver say about this?

/Just let him pick the President from now on.
//Think of the time and money saved.

At this point, I'm willing to be he says "not enough data."

He's already posted this article about how much the bloom is off the rose for Christie with Republicans.


Interesting, when did Nate start posting opinion pieces without data?

He's a well written, really smart guy, and very well informed, but if he doesn't stick to the math and starts getting into the nonsense-half of political so-called-analysis, he's gonna end up like all the other "experts"--saying something stupid and getting discredited.

He's got the math-based-politics territory well dominated...he doesn't need to expand into the bullshiat-based-politics territory that everyone else wins and make himself look bad.  I like him better as the aloof super-math-prophet.
 
2013-03-07 03:30:49 PM  
Mark my words: Christie is the only Republican I'm afraid of. Clinton is very popular because she has been quietly doing a good job, but forcing her to debate Christie will even things out. He's tenacious, and has a way of making liberal policies sound very silly in front of a camera, even to common people that would actually be helped by a net shift to the left in this country.
 
2013-03-07 03:31:03 PM  
but what if another big storm hits Jersey & he accepts federal relief... again?

NO true conservative could ever forgive such concern or care for ones constituency without, wait a minute, If only there were some way he could channel relief funds into corporate hands and trickle it down to the roaches of society.
 
2013-03-07 03:32:25 PM  

firefly212: Christies problem is his party. He's a moderate in a party that believes that ideological purity is an imperative. He can either try to repackage himself as an extremist, so he could win the GOP primaries but face significant problems in the general election, or he could maintain his reasonable, relatively moderate positions, and lose to some jackass like Rand Paul.


Christie's problem is that it is a race. A marathon no less. I
 
2013-03-07 03:32:35 PM  

Isitoveryet: but what if another big storm hits Jersey & he accepts federal relief... again?

NO true conservative could ever forgive such concern or care for ones constituency without, wait a minute, If only there were some way he could channel relief funds into corporate hands and trickle it down to the roaches of society.


I'm pretty sure that if he did that he'd automatically become Governor of Florida...
 
2013-03-07 03:33:00 PM  
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2013-03-07 03:34:03 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: TuteTibiImperes: I like Christie, and I agree that if I were going to vote for a republican he seems like one of the best options (still like Jon Huntsman too).

Of course, it won't really matter in the end.  The next election is Hillary's in a landslide as long as she doesn't do something monumentally boneheaded.  Hopefully putting Hillary in office would put Bill into an even more active position.

I have concerns about her doing something stupid.  Like the "dodging sniper fire" gate incident.


Clinton has to walk on eggshells to get the country behind her. She's popular now because she has been able to rise above the political fray and do an important job with little fanfare. Once she gets into TV ads and debates, it's going to be a very fine line between acting like a sentimental pushover and a bully. Remember in the primaries she was called a biatchy ice queen, and then criticized for crying two weeks later. It is VERY, VERY tricky for a female politician to show any kind of personality, anger, sadness, or to be anything that distinguishes her from a robot.
 
2013-03-07 03:36:08 PM  

Tommy Moo: Mark my words: Christie is the only Republican I'm afraid of. Clinton is very popular because she has been quietly doing a good job, but forcing her to debate Christie will even things out. He's tenacious, and has a way of making liberal policies sound very silly in front of a camera, even to common people that would actually be helped by a net shift to the left in this country.


Granted, but it'll never get to that point, because the Teatards will pull him down like a pack of zombies.

It's going to be Rubio for the GOP, and Hillary is going to wipe the floor with him.
 
2013-03-07 03:36:18 PM  

ha-ha-guy: Hillary's done due to age and the medical history.  It would have been okay for Obama to let her ride out 4 more years of SoS duty as a victory lap (with a strong deputy SoS to mind the store if another medical issue occurred).  She'd be 69 by 2016 and 73 by 2020.  So even if she won in 2016, there would be considerations about her ability to run for a second term as an incumbent.  Obama's only 51 and he looked worn down after one term.


I'll be worried about her age if she can't stand behind a podium for 90 minutes and stay mentally sharp enough to wipe the floor with Bobby Jindal or whatever cornball the GOP nominates. Politicians, like other rich people, tend to live into their 80s.
 
2013-03-07 03:36:30 PM  
4 years before the last election, Romney appeared to be just like Christie.

In 2004, McCain seemed like a good ol' fashioned moderate.

George Bush ran as a "compassionate" conservative to set himself apart from those right-wing authoritarians.

Funny how it all changes, the closer they get to the presidency. It's almost like there's something controlling them when they get closer to more power.
 
2013-03-07 03:37:11 PM  

randomjsa: Only a Democrat could testify like she did on Benghazi and remain popular.


www.thepomoblog.com
 
2013-03-07 03:37:33 PM  

way south: You've finally done it internet. You went and invented something I couldn't fap to.
Now please dispose of this thread properly before rule 34 kicks into effect.


Take subby's headline and pretend monica lewinsky wants to stash a new dress in her closet "just in case" courtesy of you while you watch the recoil and waves caused by subby's headline.

/worked for me
//or pretend christie is a bronie
 
2013-03-07 03:38:01 PM  
Supes:
Oh I know he's Cuban. It'll allow him to win Florida, but hurt in states like California.

What on earth makes you think all Hispanics in Florida are Cuban or like Cubans?
 
2013-03-07 03:39:11 PM  

Stone Meadow: Any odds on who will be the first Republitard to call her a biatch in public? ;^)


Assuming Boehner hasn't been primaried into non existence, we already get the ass bomb out of the way this year so I'll put my money on that horse.
 
2013-03-07 03:39:35 PM  

Tommy Moo: Mark my words: Christie is the only Republican I'm afraid of. Clinton is very popular because she has been quietly doing a good job, but forcing her to debate Christie will even things out. He's tenacious, and has a way of making liberal policies sound very silly in front of a camera, even to common people that would actually be helped by a net shift to the left in this country.


She will just set out a bowl of pudding next to her and he will be distracted
 
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