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(CBS News)   Poll shows that Christie is strongest Republican but that Hillary would ride him like a horse in a match-up   (cbsnews.com) divider line 188
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2013-03-07 01:47:41 PM  
I like Christie, and I agree that if I were going to vote for a republican he seems like one of the best options (still like Jon Huntsman too).

Of course, it won't really matter in the end.  The next election is Hillary's in a landslide as long as she doesn't do something monumentally boneheaded.  Hopefully putting Hillary in office would put Bill into an even more active position.
 
2013-03-07 01:49:22 PM  
Pff, stupid liberal media polls putting Libs against Libs. We all know who the real contenders are.

www.cathousechat.com
 
2013-03-07 01:55:44 PM  
There's an image that you need to scour out of your brain with Brillo.
 
2013-03-07 02:12:06 PM  
I really hope that's how it shakes out. Just go ahead and try to tell me those wouldn't be the greatest debates EVER.
 
2013-03-07 02:18:12 PM  
that would be an interesting race semi-brisk walk

/
he's fat
 
2013-03-07 02:18:20 PM  
It's almost like the northeastern Republicans that like Christie like Hillary more.
 
2013-03-07 02:18:44 PM  
I surprise the ol' gay can spread her legs wide-enough to straddle that girth.
 
2013-03-07 02:18:59 PM  

RexTalionis: There's an image that you need to scour out of your brain with Brillo.


Will Brillo work? I was about to use an industrial press with a 2" bit.
 
2013-03-07 02:19:59 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: I like Christie, and I agree that if I were going to vote for a republican he seems like one of the best options (still like Jon Huntsman too).

Of course, it won't really matter in the end.  The next election is Hillary's in a landslide as long as she doesn't do something monumentally boneheaded.  Hopefully putting Hillary in office would put Bill into an even more active position.


neither stands a chance with hardcore Republicans that vote in primaries
 
2013-03-07 02:20:37 PM  

oldfarthenry: I surprise the ol' gay can spread her legs wide-enough to straddle that girth.


umm... hehe... huh?
 
2013-03-07 02:21:25 PM  
Neither will run.
 
2013-03-07 02:21:43 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: I like Christie, and I agree that if I were going to vote for a republican he seems like one of the best options (still like Jon Huntsman too).

Of course, it won't really matter in the end.  The next election is Hillary's in a landslide as long as she doesn't do something monumentally boneheaded.  Hopefully putting Hillary in office would put Bill into an even more active position.


I have concerns about her doing something stupid.  Like the "dodging sniper fire" gate incident.
 
2013-03-07 02:22:46 PM  
Maybe she'll have learned how to run a better campaign after 8 years.

She needs to be more energizing, assuming she even wants the job.
 
2013-03-07 02:23:02 PM  
Yeah, the GOP has several warehouses full of material that went unused after Obama stole the show in 2008.

Of course they want her to run.
 
2013-03-07 02:23:13 PM  
There is going to be a cheesecake shortage if they run against each other.
 
2013-03-07 02:23:22 PM  
Wait a minute. How can Hillary run for a third term in 2106 after she beat Giuliani in 2008?
 
2013-03-07 02:25:34 PM  
Honestly I think Rubio eeks out the 2016 GOP nomination. He has the whole Latino thing working against him of course, but the GOP has been gung-ho about trying to salvage some segment of the Latino vote, and they perceive this as the best way. He'll have a tough time getting states in the deep south, but will do great elsewhere.  Christie is just not crazy enough to win the primaries.

As for the Democrat entry, despite all the speculation I'm not sure Hillary will even seek it. Blasphemy, I know, but I think 2008 took a lot out of her. She seems to prefer operating in a little smaller spotlight. Joe Biden WILL seek it out, but I don't think he'll win. After a hard-fought campaign, I think Mark Warner will emerge as the candidate, with a woman (Gillibrand? Klobuchar?) as his VP choice.

Warner vs. Rubio in 2016 would be a fun battle.
 
2013-03-07 02:25:56 PM  
Clinton would edge out Christie 45 to 37 percent

"Edge out"?

In any case it's way, way too soon to be talking about any of this shiat.
 
2013-03-07 02:25:56 PM  
Has to be said, again, and ad nauseam until the election...

HILLARY CANNOT WIN IN 2016. SHE WILL BE TOO OLD. SHE HAS TOO MUCH BAGGAGE.

She was a great Secretary of State. She'll make a great Senator from Illnois, or a decent Supreme Court Justice. But she is not the right Democrat for 2016. Start looking for real alternatives.
 
2013-03-07 02:27:29 PM  

Cheron: TuteTibiImperes: I like Christie, and I agree that if I were going to vote for a republican he seems like one of the best options (still like Jon Huntsman too).

Of course, it won't really matter in the end.  The next election is Hillary's in a landslide as long as she doesn't do something monumentally boneheaded.  Hopefully putting Hillary in office would put Bill into an even more active position.

neither stands a chance with hardcore Republicans that vote in primaries


And that is really the biggest problem in the Republican party right now.  They've allowed the party to be taken over by whackadoos and tea party extremists, all the while Fox News merrily plays along for ratings, and it becomes one great big echo chamber where even more extreme ideas are needed to get any publicity and the whole mass of it keeps moving further and further from reality.

The same things that any potential GOP candidate needs to do to get the approval of Limbaugh, Beck, and the hardliners in the party are the things that will make them unelectable in the general election.
 
2013-03-07 02:28:33 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: I like Christie, and I agree that if I were going to vote for a republican he seems like one of the best options (still like Jon Huntsman too).

Of course, it won't really matter in the end.  The next election is Hillary's in a landslide as long as she doesn't do something monumentally boneheaded.  Hopefully putting Hillary in office would put Bill into an even more active position.


We know how much Bill likes those active positions...
 
2013-03-07 02:29:28 PM  

Kuta: She'll make a great Senator from Illnois,


Lulwut?
 
2013-03-07 02:30:51 PM  

Kuta: She was a great Secretary of State.

Yes she did great job in my opinion.

 She'll make a great Senator from Illnois She'll make a great Senator from Illnois

Why would she want to go back to the Senate?

or a decent Supreme Court Justice


What in the blue hell has prepared her for SCOTUS seat?

/Voted for her in the 2008 primary
 
2013-03-07 02:30:55 PM  
That was a mental image I could've done without.  Now, excuse me while I go clear my head.

i249.photobucket.com
 
2013-03-07 02:31:18 PM  

Kuta: or a decent Supreme Court Justice


Lulwut?
 
2013-03-07 02:31:21 PM  

Supes: Honestly I think Rubio eeks out the 2016 GOP nomination. He has the whole Latino thing working against him of course, but the GOP has been gung-ho about trying to salvage some segment of the Latino vote, and they perceive this as the best way. He'll have a tough time getting states in the deep south, but will do great elsewhere.  Christie is just not crazy enough to win the primaries.

As for the Democrat entry, despite all the speculation I'm not sure Hillary will even seek it. Blasphemy, I know, but I think 2008 took a lot out of her. She seems to prefer operating in a little smaller spotlight. Joe Biden WILL seek it out, but I don't think he'll win. After a hard-fought campaign, I think Mark Warner will emerge as the candidate, with a woman (Gillibrand? Klobuchar?) as his VP choice.

Warner vs. Rubio in 2016 would be a fun battle.


Psst...just because he's Hispanic doesn't mean he gets the Hispanic vote.

He's Cuban. Ask some non-Cuban Hispanics how they feel about Cubans, especially Cubans who talk about immigration.

Typical GOP response, get an acceptable Hispanic and expect the Hispanic voters to swallow the crap message.
 
2013-03-07 02:31:27 PM  

Infernalist: Yeah, the GOP has several warehouses full of material that went unused after Obama stole the show in 2008.

Of course they want her to run.


Yeah but they'll all be eight year old insults at that point, little fresh in the mind of voters.  She has four more years of experience due to SoS position, plus whatever she does in the mean time.  On top of that, we'll have eight years total of Republicans saying Clinton wasn't the Devil but Obama is, which will take away some of their attacks.
 
2013-03-07 02:34:53 PM  

Infernalist: Psst...just because he's Hispanic doesn't mean he gets the Hispanic vote.

He's Cuban. Ask some non-Cuban Hispanics how they feel about Cubans, especially Cubans who talk about immigration.

Typical GOP response, get an acceptable Hispanic and expect the Hispanic voters to swallow the crap message.


Oh I know he's Cuban. It'll allow him to win Florida, but hurt in states like California. Specific nationality doesn't matter to the GOP though.... they just see brown skin and think "Opportunity!!"
 
2013-03-07 02:36:48 PM  
I'll wait to see what the "unskewed" polls tell us. Everybody knows those are the most accurate.
 
2013-03-07 02:37:21 PM  
May as well just do a name recognition survey at this point
 
2013-03-07 02:38:31 PM  
Hillary's done due to age and the medical history.  It would have been okay for Obama to let her ride out 4 more years of SoS duty as a victory lap (with a strong deputy SoS to mind the store if another medical issue occurred).  She'd be 69 by 2016 and 73 by 2020.  So even if she won in 2016, there would be considerations about her ability to run for a second term as an incumbent.  Obama's only 51 and he looked worn down after one term.
 
2013-03-07 02:38:42 PM  

Supes: Honestly I think Rubio eeks out the 2016 GOP nomination. He has the whole Latino thing working against him of course, but the GOP has been gung-ho about trying to salvage some segment of the Latino vote, and they perceive this as the best way. He'll have a tough time getting states in the deep south, but will do great elsewhere.  Christie is just not crazy enough to win the primaries.

As for the Democrat entry, despite all the speculation I'm not sure Hillary will even seek it. Blasphemy, I know, but I think 2008 took a lot out of her. She seems to prefer operating in a little smaller spotlight. Joe Biden WILL seek it out, but I don't think he'll win. After a hard-fought campaign, I think Mark Warner will emerge as the candidate, with a woman (Gillibrand? Klobuchar?) as his VP choice.

Warner vs. Rubio in 2016 would be a fun battle.


I had to look up Warner, because I honestly know nothing about the man.

Checked out where he stands on actual policies, thinking he was just another conservative Democrat from VA...

And ended up liking most of what I saw.  He's still far too much of an authoritarian for me, but on economics and most social policy, I either don't disagree or only mildly disagree.

Not bad, assuming the guy has the charisma and gravitas for the campaign (again, I know nothing about the man, so he may.)
 
2013-03-07 02:39:36 PM  

Kuta: Has to be said, again, and ad nauseam until the election...

HILLARY CANNOT WIN IN 2016. SHE WILL BE TOO OLD. SHE HAS TOO MUCH BAGGAGE.

She was a great Secretary of State. She'll make a great Senator from Illnois, or a decent Supreme Court Justice. But she is not the right Democrat for 2016. Start looking for real alternatives.


Why would she move to IL?
 
2013-03-07 02:40:38 PM  
Farks sake, we just got done with the last election.  Can we please wait 2 years before discussing the next one?
 
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2013-03-07 02:40:40 PM  
Hillbilly Jim:

What in the blue hell has prepared her for SCOTUS seat?

Pretty much everything she has done.  There is no need to be a judge to be appointed to the Supreme Court.
 
2013-03-07 02:41:43 PM  
Forget Christie, Rubio et al. Keep your eye on this lady:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjbtxupVo6I&feature=youtube_gdata&ht ml 5=1
 
2013-03-07 02:42:20 PM  

Hillbilly Jim: What in the blue hell has prepared her for SCOTUS seat?

/Voted for her in the 2008 primary


Being ridiculously smart and near the top of her class at Yale Law?

The norm of SCOTUS justices being federal judges first is a relatively new thing. Historically, about 1/3 of the appointees had no prior judicial experience. Obviously Kagan just recently came from a post as Solicitor General. Not too long ago Rehnquist came from an AG job. Earl Warren was actually Governor first, and had run for President.

I don't think Clinton would ever be nominated for a SCOTUS position, and confirming her would be problematic, but I agree with whoever made the original post that she has a keen enough mind that she could do a decent job at it.

As opposed to say, Harriet Miers, who would just have embarrassed herself.
 
2013-03-07 02:43:16 PM  
As much as I would personally love for Hillary to run and have wanted to vote for her since Bill's presidency - she's 65 and she had a blood clot in her freakin' brain only two months ago. That's not the sort of thing you can just shake off. So, yeah, I think she has slightly more important things to worry about at this point in time.
 
2013-03-07 02:43:45 PM  
HILLARY ISN'T RUNNING

FIND ANOTHER CANDIDATE

STOP SLOBBERING THE CLINTON KNOB FOR FIVE MINUTES
 
2013-03-07 02:45:25 PM  

Gosling: HILLARY ISN'T RUNNING

FIND ANOTHER CANDIDATE

STOP SLOBBERING THE CLINTON KNOB FOR FIVE MINUTES


Mind your own business.

Love,
ML
 
2013-03-07 02:46:40 PM  
Are we really doing this just 4 months after the election? Jesus tap-dancing Christ!
 
2013-03-07 02:47:31 PM  

EighthDay: Supes: Honestly I think Rubio eeks out the 2016 GOP nomination. He has the whole Latino thing working against him of course, but the GOP has been gung-ho about trying to salvage some segment of the Latino vote, and they perceive this as the best way. He'll have a tough time getting states in the deep south, but will do great elsewhere.  Christie is just not crazy enough to win the primaries.

As for the Democrat entry, despite all the speculation I'm not sure Hillary will even seek it. Blasphemy, I know, but I think 2008 took a lot out of her. She seems to prefer operating in a little smaller spotlight. Joe Biden WILL seek it out, but I don't think he'll win. After a hard-fought campaign, I think Mark Warner will emerge as the candidate, with a woman (Gillibrand? Klobuchar?) as his VP choice.

Warner vs. Rubio in 2016 would be a fun battle.

I had to look up Warner, because I honestly know nothing about the man.

Checked out where he stands on actual policies, thinking he was just another conservative Democrat from VA...

And ended up liking most of what I saw.  He's still far too much of an authoritarian for me, but on economics and most social policy, I either don't disagree or only mildly disagree.

Not bad, assuming the guy has the charisma and gravitas for the campaign (again, I know nothing about the man, so he may.)


I agree, he doesn't look bad.  I've been a big fan of this guy for a couple years though:

http://www.ontheissues.org/senate/ron_wyden.htm  Ron Wyden

He's also very technology-literate, which will be even more vitally important in the coming years.
 
2013-03-07 02:47:45 PM  
Go on, subby...
 
2013-03-07 02:49:59 PM  
He might have some trouble.

0.tqn.com
 
2013-03-07 02:50:30 PM  
Such early polls mean NOTHING, it's just political wanking.

There hasn't been one gaffe, one gotchya, one embarrassing video, open mike moment, "47% comment", no documentation of being gay, or visiting prostitutes, or a slew of other things that could reverse everything.

Not to mention if another 9/11 happened, or an upturn/downturn of the economy...

Just political wanking.
 
2013-03-07 02:50:41 PM  

Lost Thought 00: Kuta: Has to be said, again, and ad nauseam until the election...

HILLARY CANNOT WIN IN 2016. SHE WILL BE TOO OLD. SHE HAS TOO MUCH BAGGAGE.

She was a great Secretary of State. She'll make a great Senator from Illnois, or a decent Supreme Court Justice. But she is not the right Democrat for 2016. Start looking for real alternatives.

Why would she move to IL?



Why did she move to New York?
 
2013-03-07 02:52:05 PM  
really? ALREADY? America JUST finished with the last election. How about you lot concentrate on NOW instead of in 4 years?
 
2013-03-07 02:53:37 PM  

Kuta: Has to be said, again, and ad nauseam until the election...

HILLARY CANNOT WIN IN 2016. SHE WILL BE TOO OLD. SHE HAS TOO MUCH BAGGAGE.

She was a great Secretary of State. She'll make a great Senator from Illnois, or a decent Supreme Court Justice. But she is not the right Democrat for 2016. Start looking for real alternatives.


You sound concerned.
 
2013-03-07 02:54:50 PM  
Poll shows that Christie is strongest Republican

Christie lifts hundreds of pounds on a regular basis.  Heh.  Heh heh.

Seriously though, somebody post that video of the fat guy lifting a helicopter.  Fat people are hella strong.
 
2013-03-07 02:56:41 PM  
What does Nate Silver say about this?

/Just let him pick the President from now on.
//Think of the time and money saved.
 
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