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(New York Daily News)   What? You expect to only pay $300 a month in Brooklyn in rent and expect to not have to deal with an infestation of rats, bedbugs, mold and even silverfish in your apartment? Hey, this ain't Joisey ya know   (nydailynews.com ) divider line
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2013-03-07 11:44:27 AM  
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2013-03-07 11:51:41 AM  
But what do you expect?
 
2013-03-07 11:55:08 AM  
The article mentions "shared bathrooms", so these aren't even apartments, more like rooms in a boarding house.
 
2013-03-07 11:56:37 AM  
I wouldn't live anywhere in Jersey they'd rent me for $300 a month, either.
 
2013-03-07 12:04:46 PM  

Geotpf: The article mentions "shared bathrooms", so these aren't even apartments, more like rooms in a boarding house.


That's common throughout NYC, actually.  I've had friends who see having your own bathroom as a "perk."
 
2013-03-07 12:08:59 PM  

thecpt: Geotpf: The article mentions "shared bathrooms", so these aren't even apartments, more like rooms in a boarding house.

That's common throughout NYC, actually.  I've had friends who see having your own bathroom as a "perk."


So if you can make one there, you can make one anywhere?
 
2013-03-07 12:14:15 PM  
thecptGeotpf: The article mentions "shared bathrooms", so these aren't even apartments, more like rooms in a boarding house.
That's common throughout NYC, actually.  I've had friends who see having your own bathroom as a "perk."


And much of them in recent years were originally apartment buildings illegally turned into rooming houses, usually for immigrants.  I have no friends who would see having their own bathroom as a "perk".
 
2013-03-07 12:17:04 PM  

Latinwolf: I have no friends who would see having their own bathroom as a "perk".


they're young, recently graduated, and moved to nyc for work.  It's happened to a few of them, and they're all in Manhattan.
 
2013-03-07 12:22:52 PM  
1) Rent $300 Brooklyn apartment
2) Throw away everything inside
3) Seal every seam between every baseboard, floor, cabinet, and wall with caulk
4) Clean everything
5) Spend $1000 on decent second hand furniture
6) Enjoy livable, bug-free apartment for $300/mo
7) Call landlord every week to complain about living conditions so he doesn't figure out that you fixed it and raise your rent
 
2013-03-07 12:35:43 PM  

Tommy Moo: 1) Rent $300 Brooklyn apartment
2) Throw away everything inside
3) Seal every seam between every baseboard, floor, cabinet, and wall with caulk
4) Clean everything
5) Spend $1000 on decent second hand furniture
6) Enjoy livable, bug-free apartment for $300/mo
7) Call landlord every week to complain about living conditions so he doesn't figure out that you fixed it and raise your rent


Until the upstairs toilet breaks and you get a flood of sewage.

/How about waterproofing a double wide and paddling up and down the Hudson?
 
2013-03-07 12:36:31 PM  

Tommy Moo: 1) Rent $300 Brooklyn apartment
2) Throw away everything inside
3) Seal every seam between every baseboard, floor, cabinet, and wall with caulk
4) Clean everything
5) Spend $1000 on decent second hand furniture
6) Enjoy livable, bug-free apartment for $300/mo
7) Call landlord every week to complain about living conditions so he doesn't figure out that you fixed it and raise your rent



The only flaw in your plan: Rats
Maybe make a step 2A: "adhere aluminum or sheet steel to all walls/floor/ceiling, only making penetrations for water pipe or electrical wires (remembering to make holes big enough for only for what you're bringing through"
 
2013-03-07 12:36:43 PM  

Latinwolf: thecpt:  Geotpf: The article mentions "shared bathrooms", so these aren't even apartments, more like rooms in a boarding house.
That's common throughout NYC, actually.  I've had friends who see having your own bathroom as a "perk."

And much of them in recent years were originally apartment buildings illegally turned into rooming houses, usually for immigrants.  I have no friends who would see having their own bathroom as a "perk".


After college, I had a few friends in apartments like these particularly in the Village. They were kinda like long term hostels. They weren't lux by any stretch but they were relatively clean at least.

I have no idea why so many of the boroughs' landlords refuse to clean up their buildings. It drives me absolutely bonkers. You get the money you invested back in a year usually, and you can be a proud landlord of a good building. There's these rows of beautiful 3-family buildings in my neighborhood that are rented out to immigrants for chump change. They have such potential to be gorgeous and pricey if the landlords just gave a rat's ass about them. It's such a shame. But why bother if a family of 10 immigrants can be squashed into a 1 bedroom for $1k/month and won't complain?
 
2013-03-07 12:37:19 PM  

Tommy Moo: 1) Rent $300 Brooklyn apartment
2) Throw away everything inside
3) Seal every seam between every baseboard, floor, cabinet, and wall with caulk
4) Clean everything
5) Spend $1000 on decent second hand furniture
6) Enjoy livable, bug-free apartment for $300/mo
7) Call landlord every week to complain about living conditions so he doesn't figure out that you fixed it and raise your rent


Great idea, except the part about having to re-caulk the door every time you enter or exit the apartment.
Not to mention that you'd probably need about a thousand gallons of the stuff.
 
2013-03-07 12:40:15 PM  

Tommy Moo: 3) Seal every seam between every baseboard, floor, cabinet, and wall with caulk


Keeping out bugs would require seals so complete you'll eventually suffocate -- and that's assuming rats don't just chew through the wall.  I suppose you could drill holes in the wall to the outside, poke PVC pipe through them for ventilation and secure them with wire mesh, and re-seal them just before you move out. . . most slum lords (in my experience, anyway) only visit their properties when they absolutely have to.  Still sounds like an awful lot of work, and even then you can't do anything about crime or noise.
 
2013-03-07 12:51:54 PM  
We have these kinds of places in Chicago, too.  They're great if you don't mind the occasional L train noise.
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2013-03-07 12:53:51 PM  
2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-03-07 12:54:44 PM  

Lollipop165: Latinwolf: thecpt:  Geotpf: The article mentions "shared bathrooms", so these aren't even apartments, more like rooms in a boarding house.
That's common throughout NYC, actually.  I've had friends who see having your own bathroom as a "perk."

And much of them in recent years were originally apartment buildings illegally turned into rooming houses, usually for immigrants.  I have no friends who would see having their own bathroom as a "perk".

After college, I had a few friends in apartments like these particularly in the Village. They were kinda like long term hostels. They weren't lux by any stretch but they were relatively clean at least.

I have no idea why so many of the boroughs' landlords refuse to clean up their buildings. It drives me absolutely bonkers. You get the money you invested back in a year usually, and you can be a proud landlord of a good building. There's these rows of beautiful 3-family buildings in my neighborhood that are rented out to immigrants for chump change. They have such potential to be gorgeous and pricey if the landlords just gave a rat's ass about them. It's such a shame. But why bother if a family of 10 immigrants can be squashed into a 1 bedroom for $1k/month and won't complain?


Sheer laziness.  I'm in a different city, but I've seen the exact same behavior.  Sure, a property could be really nice with just some basic maintenance... but the landlord really doesn't give a fark.

When my wife and I were still just dating, I would help her spruce up her apartment.  The landlord didn't mind if we did work ourselves, and she was nice enough to let us deduct it from the rent.  Being a bit of a preservationist handyman - I actually enjoyed having a project to "play" with.  We painted the entire apartement (neutral colors).  She retiled the bathroom.  We repaired old windows with new glass.  Ceiling fans were installed in every room that had a mount available.  We even ripped out some very disgusting carpet and laid down laminate flooring.  Repaired and refloored the porches so we could sit outside in nice weather.  Even had the wrought-iron staircase railing welded so it wasn't wobbly and dangerous.

The landlord was shocked at the change in the place, but still complained about how much we spent - even though it was in all respects a very shoestring budget over an entire year.  When it was time for my lady to move out, the new tenants showed up the same day as we were doing the final clean out.  I carefully explained that I hadn't gotten around to rewiring the place, so that switch, that socket, etc. etc. still weren't working.  They had assumed it did, but I pointed out some well-hidden power strips and extension cords that we used.  Then, I asked them if they wanted me to replace the light fixtures, since we were taking our ceiling fans with us...

We still have a judgement against that landlord for our security deposit, because even the judge had to acknowledge we put way more money into that place than we should have.  Unfortunately, the landlord is currently facing foreclosure on the property, so we probably won't see that money ever again.
 
2013-03-07 01:03:20 PM  

Kraftwerk Orange: Sheer laziness.  I'm in a different city, but I've seen the exact same behavior.  Sure, a property could be really nice with just some basic maintenance... but the landlord really doesn't give a fark.


I would argue that with all the landlords, if one improves their property it won't elevate the price that much because the area around them looks like crap.  They'd have to depend on everyone else (pending the quantities of landlords) making the same investment.  So like a weird tragedy of the commons.

/farking landlord didn't put up the storm windows before we moved in.  gdammit
 
2013-03-07 01:11:21 PM  

Tommy Moo: 1) Rent $300 Brooklyn apartment
2) Throw away everything inside
3) Seal every seam between every baseboard, floor, cabinet, and wall with caulk
4) Clean everything
5) Spend $1000 on decent second hand furniture
6) Enjoy livable, bug-free apartment for $300/mo
7) Call landlord every week to complain about living conditions so he doesn't figure out that you fixed it and raise your rent


1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-03-07 01:17:12 PM  
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"If promises were crackers, my daughter would be fat"
 
2013-03-07 01:17:39 PM  

Kraftwerk Orange: When my wife and I were still just dating, I would help her spruce up her apartment. The landlord didn't mind if we did work ourselves


Years ago (late 1980s) I had a friend whose parents were renters in a 2 family home in Brooklyn. Back then the laws were very favorable for renters and the only way you could be evicted from such an apartment was if the owner wanted to use the unit himself or for someone in the family (law may still be like that I have no idea). Her parents' philosophy was that even though they weren't owners, they'd fix up the apartment they were renting as if they were the owner since they wanted to live in something nice.They had done this in previous apartments and never had an issue when they moved onto a new place. After moving, getting their new landlord's OK and being told he had no plans to use the apartment for himself or family member, they fixed up their new place, spending quite a bit of money.

Sure enough the landlord, seeing the new flooring, wall paper and other fixtures, all of the sudden decided he wanted the apartment back noting that aside from the ceiling fans the parents couldn't their improvements with them. The parents asked for reimbursement for their improvements but were denied. They were so mad they spent their last days destroying every single improvement they had made and told the LL to keep their deposit.
 
2013-03-07 01:43:27 PM  
Even silverfish?  Unbelievable.

/god I hate silverfish
 
2013-03-07 01:46:14 PM  

Sasquach: Tommy Moo: 1) Rent $300 Brooklyn apartment
2) Throw away everything inside
3) Seal every seam between every baseboard, floor, cabinet, and wall with caulk
4) Clean everything
5) Spend $1000 on decent second hand furniture
6) Enjoy livable, bug-free apartment for $300/mo
7) Call landlord every week to complain about living conditions so he doesn't figure out that you fixed it and raise your rent


The only flaw in your plan: Rats
Maybe make a step 2A: "adhere aluminum or sheet steel to all walls/floor/ceiling, only making penetrations for water pipe or electrical wires (remembering to make holes big enough for only for what you're bringing through"


Or get a cat
 
2013-03-07 02:07:23 PM  
"Even" silverfish?

I got news for you subby, out of those four options, the silverfish are the least of your concerns by about a hundred miles. Unless you're a book collector or something. They're just really ugly.
 
2013-03-07 02:10:30 PM  
Oh, and I lived in a townhouse for a while that had a few of these lurking about:

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Firebrats. They destroyed a few cardboard boxes I had used to move things in by eating away the glue but, otherwise, they were just kind of creepy looking little things you'd catch out of the corner of your eye skittering along the cracks in the floorboards when you turned a light on at night. Every great once in a while you'd catch one under the comforter on the bed too, but the instant the light hit them they took off like a rocket for the walls.
 
2013-03-07 02:12:21 PM  

damageddude: Kraftwerk Orange: When my wife and I were still just dating, I would help her spruce up her apartment. The landlord didn't mind if we did work ourselves

Years ago (late 1980s) I had a friend whose parents were renters in a 2 family home in Brooklyn. Back then the laws were very favorable for renters and the only way you could be evicted from such an apartment was if the owner wanted to use the unit himself or for someone in the family (law may still be like that I have no idea). Her parents' philosophy was that even though they weren't owners, they'd fix up the apartment they were renting as if they were the owner since they wanted to live in something nice.They had done this in previous apartments and never had an issue when they moved onto a new place. After moving, getting their new landlord's OK and being told he had no plans to use the apartment for himself or family member, they fixed up their new place, spending quite a bit of money.

Sure enough the landlord, seeing the new flooring, wall paper and other fixtures, all of the sudden decided he wanted the apartment back noting that aside from the ceiling fans the parents couldn't their improvements with them. The parents asked for reimbursement for their improvements but were denied. They were so mad they spent their last days destroying every single improvement they had made and told the LL to keep their deposit.


We didn't expect to keep anything except the ceiling fans, and we were allowed to deduct costs of improvements from rent, so I've got no complaints there.  The reason we sued in small claims - and won - was because the landlord never returned the security deposit.  There was no way in hell she could argue the place wasn't in better condition when we left.

I know we'll never collect on the judgement, small claims courts are pretty much unenforceable and she doesn't have anything of value, aside from the house.  Which, I mentioned, she's about to lose in foreclosure.  The bank will be lucky to get paid what they're owed, all the rest of us with subordinate liens (including the city and county tax agencies) will be left holding our hats.
 
2013-03-07 02:35:15 PM  

Kraftwerk Orange: damageddude: Kraftwerk Orange: When my wife and I were still just dating, I would help her spruce up her apartment. The landlord didn't mind if we did work ourselves

Years ago (late 1980s) I had a friend whose parents were renters in a 2 family home in Brooklyn. Back then the laws were very favorable for renters and the only way you could be evicted from such an apartment was if the owner wanted to use the unit himself or for someone in the family (law may still be like that I have no idea). Her parents' philosophy was that even though they weren't owners, they'd fix up the apartment they were renting as if they were the owner since they wanted to live in something nice.They had done this in previous apartments and never had an issue when they moved onto a new place. After moving, getting their new landlord's OK and being told he had no plans to use the apartment for himself or family member, they fixed up their new place, spending quite a bit of money.

Sure enough the landlord, seeing the new flooring, wall paper and other fixtures, all of the sudden decided he wanted the apartment back noting that aside from the ceiling fans the parents couldn't their improvements with them. The parents asked for reimbursement for their improvements but were denied. They were so mad they spent their last days destroying every single improvement they had made and told the LL to keep their deposit.

We didn't expect to keep anything except the ceiling fans, and we were allowed to deduct costs of improvements from rent, so I've got no complaints there.  The reason we sued in small claims - and won - was because the landlord never returned the security deposit.  There was no way in hell she could argue the place wasn't in better condition when we left.

I know we'll never collect on the judgement, small claims courts are pretty much unenforceable and she doesn't have anything of value, aside from the house.  Which, I mentioned, she's about to lose in foreclosure.  The bank will be l ...


I've never gotten a security deposit back in full. I just assume that the money is gone once I pay it. Never seen a landlord return it.
 
2013-03-07 02:44:27 PM  
infestation of rats, bedbugs, mold and even silverfish

I didn't know Lena Dunham rented out her vag.
 
2013-03-07 02:46:21 PM  

Katie98_KT: Kraftwerk Orange: damageddude: Kraftwerk Orange: When my wife and I were still just dating, I would help her spruce up her apartment. The landlord didn't mind if we did work ourselves

Years ago (late 1980s) I had a friend whose parents were renters in a 2 family home in Brooklyn. Back then the laws were very favorable for renters and the only way you could be evicted from such an apartment was if the owner wanted to use the unit himself or for someone in the family (law may still be like that I have no idea). Her parents' philosophy was that even though they weren't owners, they'd fix up the apartment they were renting as if they were the owner since they wanted to live in something nice.They had done this in previous apartments and never had an issue when they moved onto a new place. After moving, getting their new landlord's OK and being told he had no plans to use the apartment for himself or family member, they fixed up their new place, spending quite a bit of money.

Sure enough the landlord, seeing the new flooring, wall paper and other fixtures, all of the sudden decided he wanted the apartment back noting that aside from the ceiling fans the parents couldn't their improvements with them. The parents asked for reimbursement for their improvements but were denied. They were so mad they spent their last days destroying every single improvement they had made and told the LL to keep their deposit.

We didn't expect to keep anything except the ceiling fans, and we were allowed to deduct costs of improvements from rent, so I've got no complaints there.  The reason we sued in small claims - and won - was because the landlord never returned the security deposit.  There was no way in hell she could argue the place wasn't in better condition when we left.

I know we'll never collect on the judgement, small claims courts are pretty much unenforceable and she doesn't have anything of value, aside from the house.  Which, I mentioned, she's about to lose in foreclosure.  ...

I've never gotten a security deposit back in full. I just assume that the money is gone once I pay it. Never seen a landlord return it.


I've never not had one returned.  Nor had my wife, until then.  Most landlords aren't terrible - my example was really a unique encounter.  Getting back your security deposit is a normal part of the apartment experience, not something that rarely happens.
 
2013-03-07 02:51:19 PM  
Katie98_KT: I've never gotten a security deposit back in full. I just assume that the money is gone once I pay it. Never seen a landlord return it.

I had one try to hold me up for not dusting off the window sills after we moved everything out.  I told him that's part of preparing the house for the next renter.  His response: "Well, that's your opinion."

/got everything back minus the final oil utilities.
 
2013-03-07 02:56:41 PM  

StrangeQ: Katie98_KT: I've never gotten a security deposit back in full. I just assume that the money is gone once I pay it. Never seen a landlord return it.

I had one try to hold me up for not dusting off the window sills after we moved everything out.  I told him that's part of preparing the house for the next renter.  His response: "Well, that's your opinion."

/got everything back minus the final oil utilities.


Your landlord?
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2013-03-07 02:57:28 PM  

skozlaw: "Even" silverfish?

I got news for you subby, out of those four options, the silverfish are the least of your concerns by about a hundred miles. Unless you're a book collector or something. They're just really ugly.


I think I'd prefer rats and mold to silverfish.  Not bedbugs though.  Fark bedbugs.
 
2013-03-07 02:59:02 PM  
I wish people would just accept basic concepts of Supply and demand.  Adding legislation doesn't help.  It's easy to say everyone should have *at least* a 900 sq. ft. apartment.  If you pass a law that says as much, all you'll get is people who can afford *at least* a 900 sq. ft. apartment and homeless people.

These people knew what they were getting when they rented the place they did.  If they had better options they would have taken it.  Now, after they've agreed to the conditions and price; they want 'the law' to come in and get them free renovations.  They refuse to leave.  And they'll refuse to pay more in rent.

Ultimately, they'll probably get what they want.  Which is to be homeless.  It happens every time a government tries to legislate an increase in everyone's 'standard of living'.

//Lives in a 400 sq. ft. apartment
///Who do I get to sue?
 
2013-03-07 03:03:08 PM  
$300 a month? You should expected either a rent-controlled pre-war 9 bedroom apartment with quarters for three servants or a bathroom with no floor which you must share with a Russian black bear named Rudolf.
 
2013-03-07 03:03:55 PM  
Naturally, Rudolf gets the tub. You have to sleep on the commode, hanging on to the lavabo for dear life.
 
2013-03-07 03:27:52 PM  
 
2013-03-07 03:28:29 PM  
Hallways reeked of rotting mold, shared bathroom ceilings were falling down, and loose plywood covered up gaping holes in the floors.

shiat, they even have to share the bathroom ceiling?
 
2013-03-07 03:47:14 PM  

TheSelphie: I think I'd prefer rats and mold to silverfish. Not bedbugs though. Fark bedbugs.


Really? I don't mind the concept of rats, but they're very destructive. And mold causes me all sorts of problems with my sinuses.

Silverfish are just ugly. They're also cowards, though and spend most of their time running away if they get a choice.

Bedbugs, I'd say, are the worst, though.
 
2013-03-07 03:53:34 PM  
Unless that room was also shared with Stabbio the roommate stabbing necrophiliac, I don't wanna hear it. It's a bargain.
 
2013-03-07 03:57:40 PM  

bentley57: YT: Funky Towel Joe's Apartment


Came for this reference, leaving satisfied.

Sounds like the landlord has been watching an old Jerry O'Connell movie.
 
2013-03-07 03:58:51 PM  

skozlaw: TheSelphie: I think I'd prefer rats and mold to silverfish. Not bedbugs though. Fark bedbugs.

Really? I don't mind the concept of rats, but they're very destructive. And mold causes me all sorts of problems with my sinuses.

Silverfish are just ugly. They're also cowards, though and spend most of their time running away if they get a choice.

Bedbugs, I'd say, are the worst, though.


You realize that rats urinate  pretty much constantly.  Wherever, whenever, so wherever they walk it's a constant dribble of urine.  Constant.
 
2013-03-07 03:59:15 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: //Lives in a 400 sq. ft. apartment
///Who do I get to sue?


If your living space isn't habitable, your landlord.
If it is, then your landlord is doing his job.
The landlords in the article aren't. Either they need to do their jobs or get out of the landlord business. Those are the options, not including biatch that you don't get enough effortless money from your renters.
 
2013-03-07 04:01:08 PM  
What does Jello Biafra think of this?

The Landlord's here to visit
They're blasting disco down below
Sez, "I'm doubling up the rent
Cos the building's condemned
You're gonna help me buy City Hall"

But we can, you know we can
But we can, you know we can
Let's lynch the landlord man

I tell them 'turn on the water'
I tell 'em 'turn on the heat'
Tells me 'All you ever do is complain'
Then they search the place when I'm not here

But we can, you know we can
Let's lynch the landlord
Let's lynch the landlord
Let's lynch the landlord man

There's rats chewin' up the kitchen
Roaches up to my knees
Turn the oven on, it smells like Dachau, yeah
Til the rain pours thru the ceiling

But we can, you know we can
Let's lynch the landlord man
 
2013-03-07 04:08:09 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: Lives in a 400 sq. ft. apartment


Holy crap! My pool room is about that size. I don't consider the house I'm renting to be "palacial" by any stretch of the imagination, but it's about 1500 sq. ft. 3 bedroom / 2 bath (and a pool room), covered carport, and a backyard, in central-Las Vegas. And at $1029 per month (including sewer and trash pick-up), it seems like a bargain. Mind if I ask what your rent is on a 400 sq. ft. apartment in (I'm assuming)NY?
 
2013-03-07 04:13:21 PM  

you have pee hands: I wouldn't live anywhere in Jersey they'd rent me for $300 a month, either.

 
2013-03-07 04:15:30 PM  
you people have it easy. i have a mad dash past man-eating cows to make it to my front door. i ever stumble and fall, i'm what's for dinner.

/ Action Park country
 
2013-03-07 04:38:12 PM  

skozlaw: TheSelphie: I think I'd prefer rats and mold to silverfish. Not bedbugs though. Fark bedbugs.

Really? I don't mind the concept of rats, but they're very destructive. And mold causes me all sorts of problems with my sinuses.

Silverfish are just ugly. They're also cowards, though and spend most of their time running away if they get a choice.

Bedbugs, I'd say, are the worst, though.


I just have a personal vendetta against silverfish.  Though my cats love to eat them up if they catch them, so they've basically eliminated the problem.  Thankfully I am not allergic to mold, even though I'm allergic to most trees, weeds, and dogs and cats.  Somehow I escaped being allergic to stuff that is actually harmful.
 
2013-03-07 04:38:36 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: Fark_Guy_Rob: Lives in a 400 sq. ft. apartment

Holy crap! My pool room is about that size. I don't consider the house I'm renting to be "palacial" by any stretch of the imagination, but it's about 1500 sq. ft. 3 bedroom / 2 bath (and a pool room), covered carport, and a backyard, in central-Las Vegas. And at $1029 per month (including sewer and trash pick-up), it seems like a bargain. Mind if I ask what your rent is on a 400 sq. ft. apartment in (I'm assuming)NY?


I moved from a 450 sq ft apartment to a 2,000 sq ft house four years ago; what a difference.  My mortgage on the house is $75 a month less than rent on the apartment was (ignoring a few big things like the down payment, maintenance, taxes, and insurance, but still).  Of course, I only paid 3/8ths of what the previous owner paid for said house as well-and got a tax-free check for eight grand from the IRS to boot!  (The housing crisis worked out very well for me.)
 
2013-03-07 05:32:57 PM  

Kraftwerk Orange: Katie98_KT: Kraftwerk Orange: damageddude: Kraftwerk Orange: stuff about deposits


Eh. When I moved out of my last apartment ever, the landlord rolled up in his golf cart, declared the status of the apartment OK, and told me I ought to go ahead and give him his last month of rent now.

To which I replied "Well,  you've still got the security deposit, so cut me a check for the difference."

You'd thought I'd just farked his daughter (which I would have, she was hot, ran the front desk) with the look I got.

Never did see that check, all $90 of it.
 
2013-03-07 05:42:43 PM  
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something tells me that if this horder lived in a bigger place it would attract all these rodents and bugs anyway.  and also be full of even more crap.
 
2013-03-07 05:50:07 PM  
Living in the hell-hole called NY? Brooklyn? They should pay me and have planes flying into buildings once a month for my entertainment.

I only pray if we get nuked, NYC & LA & Chicago go first & go hard.
 
2013-03-07 05:53:04 PM  
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2013-03-07 06:02:49 PM  
$300?  I had a hard time finding a 1/2 way decent place in Brooklyn for under $2,000.  And I'm in Carroll Gardens, far from the Hipsterville that is Greenpoint/Williamsburg.
 
2013-03-07 06:26:56 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: I wish people would just accept basic concepts of Supply and demand.  Adding legislation doesn't help.  It's easy to say everyone should have *at least* a 900 sq. ft. apartment.  If you pass a law that says as much, all you'll get is people who can afford *at least* a 900 sq. ft. apartment and homeless people.

These people knew what they were getting when they rented the place they did.  If they had better options they would have taken it.  Now, after they've agreed to the conditions and price; they want 'the law' to come in and get them free renovations.  They refuse to leave.  And they'll refuse to pay more in rent.

Ultimately, they'll probably get what they want.  Which is to be homeless.  It happens every time a government tries to legislate an increase in everyone's 'standard of living'.

//Lives in a 400 sq. ft. apartment
///Who do I get to sue?


I'd start with your parents.
 
2013-03-07 06:37:05 PM  

ghare: Fark_Guy_Rob:
//Lives in a 400 sq. ft. apartment
///Who do I get to sue?

I'd start with your parents.


How about the school district?
 
2013-03-07 08:28:32 PM  

skozlaw: "Even" silverfish?

I got news for you subby, out of those four options, the silverfish are the least of your concerns by about a hundred miles. Unless you're a book collector or something. They're just really ugly.


Here for this. Though subby may have just been quoting the article.

Just have a silverfish-fry! Everything is tasty when breaded.
 
2013-03-07 08:37:47 PM  
Though what I really hate?

www.itechfreak.com

Ear rigs.
 
2013-03-07 08:41:29 PM  
Considering that probably 1/2 of all people who've ever referenced something they called a "silverfish" are incapable of actually identifying the creature commonly known as a silverfish, I don't really trust the "silverfish" siting reports.  Ever.

NOTE: Centipedes are not silverfish.  Your nasty roaches are not silverfish.  Spiders are not silverfish.  Crickets are not silverfish.  STOP BEING SO GOD DAMNED STUPID AND IGNORANT.
 
2013-03-07 08:54:56 PM  
Fark that. If it were me, I'd just try and get the health dept. to condemn the place, and go find a homeless shelter.
 
2013-03-07 08:56:36 PM  

MrHappyRotter: Considering that probably 1/2 of all people who've ever referenced something they called a "silverfish" are incapable of actually identifying the creature commonly known as a silverfish, I don't really trust the "silverfish" siting reports.  Ever.

NOTE: Centipedes are not silverfish.  Your nasty roaches are not silverfish.  Spiders are not silverfish.  Crickets are not silverfish.  STOP BEING SO GOD DAMNED STUPID AND IGNORANT.


Even silver fish are not silverfish.
 
2013-03-07 09:23:42 PM  

Katie98_KT: Kraftwerk Orange: damageddude: Kraftwerk Orange: When my wife and I were still just dating, I would help her spruce up her apartment. The landlord didn't mind if we did work ourselves

Years ago (late 1980s) I had a friend whose parents were renters in a 2 family home in Brooklyn. Back then the laws were very favorable for renters and the only way you could be evicted from such an apartment was if the owner wanted to use the unit himself or for someone in the family (law may still be like that I have no idea). Her parents' philosophy was that even though they weren't owners, they'd fix up the apartment they were renting as if they were the owner since they wanted to live in something nice.They had done this in previous apartments and never had an issue when they moved onto a new place. After moving, getting their new landlord's OK and being told he had no plans to use the apartment for himself or family member, they fixed up their new place, spending quite a bit of money.

Sure enough the landlord, seeing the new flooring, wall paper and other fixtures, all of the sudden decided he wanted the apartment back noting that aside from the ceiling fans the parents couldn't their improvements with them. The parents asked for reimbursement for their improvements but were denied. They were so mad they spent their last days destroying every single improvement they had made and told the LL to keep their deposit.

We didn't expect to keep anything except the ceiling fans, and we were allowed to deduct costs of improvements from rent, so I've got no complaints there.  The reason we sued in small claims - and won - was because the landlord never returned the security deposit.  There was no way in hell she could argue the place wasn't in better condition when we left.

I know we'll never collect on the judgement, small claims courts are pretty much unenforceable and she doesn't have anything of value, aside from the house.  Which, I mentioned, she's about to lose in foreclosure.  ...


Ive never not gotten my security deposit back in full.  In fact when i lived in Brooklyn, I had to leave and go back to Florida, midterm. The landlord said he understood (it was job related) and returned my deposit.  I cleaned the place pretty good, I guess. I honestly didn't expect to get it back as I had broken my lease but his secretary called me and asked where I wanted it sent.

On another note.  I had a great super in that building.  When something was broken, he'd come up and fix it within a day.  I always gave him some beer and didn't biatch when he smoked while working.  I just opened the windows.  Not necessarily ideal but when I heard some horror stories from friends in other buildings who could never get things fixed, I didn't complain.
 
2013-03-07 09:50:57 PM  

Joe Peanut: $300?  I had a hard time finding a 1/2 way decent place in Brooklyn for under $2,000.  And I'm in Carroll Gardens, far from the Hipsterville that is Greenpoint/Williamsburg.


My flatmate and I are paying 1700 or so for a two bedroom in Crown Heights. The stretch between Eastern Parkway and the A/C is going to be crazy cheap for just a little bit longer, and then skyrocket in five years or so. We have a decent sized living room and a separate (!) decent sized dining room.

If you're paying $2000 just for a room, that's insane for Brooklyn, unless you want Park Slope or something fancy shmancy.

Polish Greenpoint/Little Warsaw is cool. You see drunk guys with bottles of Zubrowka passed out on the park bench at 11 in the morning. Hipster Greenpoint is less fun.
 
2013-03-07 10:12:11 PM  

Seth'n'Spectrum: Joe Peanut: $300?  I had a hard time finding a 1/2 way decent place in Brooklyn for under $2,000.  And I'm in Carroll Gardens, far from the Hipsterville that is Greenpoint/Williamsburg.

My flatmate and I are paying 1700 or so for a two bedroom in Crown Heights. The stretch between Eastern Parkway and the A/C is going to be crazy cheap for just a little bit longer, and then skyrocket in five years or so. We have a decent sized living room and a separate (!) decent sized dining room.

If you're paying $2000 just for a room, that's insane for Brooklyn, unless you want Park Slope or something fancy shmancy.

Polish Greenpoint/Little Warsaw is cool. You see drunk guys with bottles of Zubrowka passed out on the park bench at 11 in the morning. Hipster Greenpoint is less fun.


Did I say a room?  I said a decent place.
 
2013-03-07 10:17:05 PM  

Joe Peanut: $300?  I had a hard time finding a 1/2 way decent place in Brooklyn for under $2,000.  And I'm in Carroll Gardens, far from the Hipsterville that is Greenpoint/Williamsburg.


I was in Bay Ridge.  One Bedroom, third floor in a pre-war elevator building.  in 2006 I was paying $950 in a rent (stabilized or controlled) can't remember the difference.  Rents in general may have gone up a lot since then, not sure.  I was 2 blocks from the Bay Ridge R stop which was nice.
 
2013-03-07 10:40:47 PM  

Katie98_KT: Kraftwerk Orange: damageddude: Kraftwerk Orange: When my wife and I were still just dating, I would help her spruce up her apartment. The landlord didn't mind if we did work ourselves

Years ago (late 1980s) I had a friend whose parents were renters in a 2 family home in Brooklyn. Back then the laws were very favorable for renters and the only way you could be evicted from such an apartment was if the owner wanted to use the unit himself or for someone in the family (law may still be like that I have no idea). Her parents' philosophy was that even though they weren't owners, they'd fix up the apartment they were renting as if they were the owner since they wanted to live in something nice.They had done this in previous apartments and never had an issue when they moved onto a new place. After moving, getting their new landlord's OK and being told he had no plans to use the apartment for himself or family member, they fixed up their new place, spending quite a bit of money.

Sure enough the landlord, seeing the new flooring, wall paper and other fixtures, all of the sudden decided he wanted the apartment back noting that aside from the ceiling fans the parents couldn't their improvements with them. The parents asked for reimbursement for their improvements but were denied. They were so mad they spent their last days destroying every single improvement they had made and told the LL to keep their deposit.

We didn't expect to keep anything except the ceiling fans, and we were allowed to deduct costs of improvements from rent, so I've got no complaints there.  The reason we sued in small claims - and won - was because the landlord never returned the security deposit.  There was no way in hell she could argue the place wasn't in better condition when we left.

I know we'll never collect on the judgement, small claims courts are pretty much unenforceable and she doesn't have anything of value, aside from the house.  Which, I mentioned, she's about to lose in foreclosure.  The bank will be l ...

I've never gotten a security deposit back in full. I just assume that the money is gone once I pay it. Never seen a landlord return it.


I am five for five, but it is probably different in suburban apts
 
2013-03-07 11:10:32 PM  

Igor Jakovsky: Joe Peanut: $300?  I had a hard time finding a 1/2 way decent place in Brooklyn for under $2,000.  And I'm in Carroll Gardens, far from the Hipsterville that is Greenpoint/Williamsburg.

I was in Bay Ridge.  One Bedroom, third floor in a pre-war elevator building.  in 2006 I was paying $950 in a rent (stabilized or controlled) can't remember the difference.  Rents in general may have gone up a lot since then, not sure.  I was 2 blocks from the Bay Ridge R stop which was nice.


I was in Bay Ridge many years ago.  Too far from my job in Midtown Manhattan.  Easily 1:30 to 2:00 of very stressful subway commute.  Now I'm 45 minutes by bike and boat.
 
2013-03-07 11:18:34 PM  

Seth'n'Spectrum: Joe Peanut: $300?  I had a hard time finding a 1/2 way decent place in Brooklyn for under $2,000.  And I'm in Carroll Gardens, far from the Hipsterville that is Greenpoint/Williamsburg.

My flatmate and I are paying 1700 or so for a two bedroom in Crown Heights. The stretch between Eastern Parkway and the A/C is going to be crazy cheap for just a little bit longer, and then skyrocket in five years or so. We have a decent sized living room and a separate (!) decent sized dining room.

If you're paying $2000 just for a room, that's insane for Brooklyn, unless you want Park Slope or something fancy shmancy.


I lived in the North Slope from 2006 to 2009. My rent was under $1600 a month for a one bedroom apartment with an eat-in kitchen.

Rent stabilization is a beautiful thing.
 
2013-03-08 01:07:40 AM  
Okay... I've figured out the rat problem in New York.

www.theepochtimes.com

That's not during a strike.
 
2013-03-08 04:32:59 AM  

CujoQuarrel: you have pee hands: I wouldn't live anywhere in Jersey they'd rent me for $300 a month, either.


This coming from a guy who lives in Alabama?? Oh fark you.
 
2013-03-08 09:03:32 AM  

MrHappyRotter: Considering that probably 1/2 of all people who've ever referenced something they called a "silverfish" are incapable of actually identifying the creature commonly known as a silverfish, I don't really trust the "silverfish" siting reports.  Ever.

NOTE: Centipedes are not silverfish.  Your nasty roaches are not silverfish.  Spiders are not silverfish.  Crickets are not silverfish.  STOP BEING SO GOD DAMNED STUPID AND IGNORANT.


Where do you live? I don't ever want to make you mad. Have a wonderful day!
 
2013-03-08 10:32:23 AM  

EbolaNYC: This coming from a guy who lives in Alabama?? Oh fark you.


Alabama?  Where'd you get that from?  I'm 15 miles outside Philly whatever that means.  And my point is that anywhere in Joisey you can rent for $300 is going to be a shiathole too, not that there's nowhere worth living there.  I had an apartment in Jersey for I think $650 a month 6 or 8 years ago and it wasn't particularly nice.
 
2013-03-08 01:30:02 PM  

damageddude: Kraftwerk Orange: When my wife and I were still just dating, I would help her spruce up her apartment. The landlord didn't mind if we did work ourselves

Years ago (late 1980s) I had a friend whose parents were renters in a 2 family home in Brooklyn. Back then the laws were very favorable for renters and the only way you could be evicted from such an apartment was if the owner wanted to use the unit himself or for someone in the family (law may still be like that I have no idea). Her parents' philosophy was that even though they weren't owners, they'd fix up the apartment they were renting as if they were the owner since they wanted to live in something nice.They had done this in previous apartments and never had an issue when they moved onto a new place. After moving, getting their new landlord's OK and being told he had no plans to use the apartment for himself or family member, they fixed up their new place, spending quite a bit of money.

Sure enough the landlord, seeing the new flooring, wall paper and other fixtures, all of the sudden decided he wanted the apartment back noting that aside from the ceiling fans the parents couldn't their improvements with them. The parents asked for reimbursement for their improvements but were denied. They were so mad they spent their last days destroying every single improvement they had made and told the LL to keep their deposit.


That is really immature of your friends parents. If the landlord does not agree to reimburse you or exchange improvements for rent don't do them. If you do them on your own dime you are an idiot and if you destroy the improvements you are a criminal destroying someones property. Your friends parents should have been jailed and sued. If I tell my tenants not to work on my property and they ignore me they will be evicted. If they destroy my property I'm pressing charges and they will get a judgement on their credit. If they want to pull some amateur DIY they can buy their own home.
 
2013-03-08 03:14:23 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: Fark_Guy_Rob: Lives in a 400 sq. ft. apartment

Holy crap! My pool room is about that size. I don't consider the house I'm renting to be "palacial" by any stretch of the imagination, but it's about 1500 sq. ft. 3 bedroom / 2 bath (and a pool room), covered carport, and a backyard, in central-Las Vegas. And at $1029 per month (including sewer and trash pick-up), it seems like a bargain. Mind if I ask what your rent is on a 400 sq. ft. apartment in (I'm assuming)NY?


I'm living in Dublin (Ireland) these days.  My current rent is 900 euro per month (roughly $1,200 USD depending on the exchange rate).  As a general rule, everything is much smaller here than it was in the US, after a short while you really don't notice the space (too much).   I also have a wife and a dog.  If I were living by myself, I'd be perfectly fine with 250-300 sq ft....but in some places it's not legal to rent a place that small.  Unless you are a University, but that's another story.
 
2013-03-08 04:01:08 PM  

Igor Jakovsky: Joe Peanut: $300?  I had a hard time finding a 1/2 way decent place in Brooklyn for under $2,000.  And I'm in Carroll Gardens, far from the Hipsterville that is Greenpoint/Williamsburg.

I was in Bay Ridge.  One Bedroom, third floor in a pre-war elevator building.  in 2006 I was paying $950 in a rent (stabilized or controlled) can't remember the difference.  Rents in general may have gone up a lot since then, not sure.  I was 2 blocks from the Bay Ridge R stop which was nice.


That sounds way too expensive for bay ridge. I'm in Ditmas park and was paying 1150 for a 600sq.ft. one bedroom. Course, outs going up to 1400 in a month, but still not bad.
 
2013-03-09 10:23:44 PM  

FarkedOver: What does Jello Biafra think of this?

The Landlord's here to visit
They're blasting disco down below
Sez, "I'm doubling up the rent
Cos the building's condemned
You're gonna help me buy City Hall"

But we can, you know we can
But we can, you know we can
Let's lynch the landlord man


pixhost.me
 
2013-03-11 10:47:59 AM  

Mija: If you do them on your own dime you are an idiot and if you destroy the improvements you are a criminal destroying someones property. Your friends parents should have been jailed and sued. If I tell my tenants not to work on my property and they ignore me they will be evicted. If they destroy my property I'm pressing charges and they will get a judgement on their credit.


Not quite. They took their property -- newer interior doors, window treatments, carpeting, light fixtures, appliances etc (when my wife and I were renters we considered taking a ceiling fan we put up with us and put the original light fixture back but decided it wasn't worth the effort, LL didn't care either way).

It has been a long time and I don't recall the details anymore but as I recall the landlord gave them his blessing for the improvements saying he had no plans to use the apartment for himself in the near future then turned around and said he wanted the apartment for his family. I can't recall if they simply scratched the wall paper or took it down and repainted or what they did to the floors -- this was about 25 years ago. And i think they replaced the appliances with the originals or the equivalent.

Also, keep in mind this is NYC -- law is very generous to tenants. The LL is lucky they didn't try to fight the eviction. They could have stayed in that apartment rent free for months.
 
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