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Xai
2013-03-07 11:16:03 AM  
80% of phones are running android?
 
2013-03-07 11:18:36 AM  
It's the iOS number that I find most interesting.  You can only install apps from Apple, yet people are still getting malware?

Tsk tsk.
 
2013-03-07 11:19:42 AM  
I got a virus from a sybian. You really need to wipe them down between users.
 
2013-03-07 11:21:25 AM  

Drewdad: It's the iOS number that I find most interesting.  You can only install apps from Apple, yet people are still getting malware?

Tsk tsk.


I'm assuming they are taking into account jailbroken iOS devices that bypass the app store and can install from other sources.
 
2013-03-07 11:32:57 AM  

Wellon Dowd: I got a virus from a sybian. You really need to wipe them down between users.


Disgusting and funny.  Well-done!
 
2013-03-07 11:38:36 AM  
I'm curious what their definition of malware is. I've been running Android devices since 2010 and have never seen a single piece of "malware"..

What is an annoying trend is annoyyouware.. Subway Surfer is a great example.. You think the game is closed? Nope, fark you.. We're sending notifications to you about game mode offers available and you can't disable anywhere in game.  That new Simpsons Tapped Out game same shiat. Notifications constantly every time someone completes a task and there isn't a clear way to disable them.
 
2013-03-07 11:39:09 AM  
Trojans are far and away the most common threat, accounting for nearly 70% of all mobile malware. The unfortunate thing for Android users is that trojanized apps haven't just been limited to fly-by-night Chineses app stores. Some have managed to sneak past the  Bouncer and into - though fortunately they're always ferreted out in short order.


I would love to know what they 1) what they consider to be malware 2) whether they are talking about official market apps, or apps available from all sources 3) how many apps they actually looked at to come to such a dubious claim.

Methinks someone needed some clicks....
 
2013-03-07 11:49:32 AM  
Son of a biatch, not this sh*t logic again...
 
2013-03-07 11:52:35 AM  

styckx: I'm curious what their definition of malware is.


milsorgen: I would love to know what they 1) what they consider to be malware


Its not like there is an article with you know a link to a big PDF that breaks down specifically by name and activity each malware item they list.

/facepalm
//but its still just a thinly veiled ad for f-Secure's android based AV system
 
2013-03-07 11:58:53 AM  
When your entire business model depends on the user breaking all the security controls on the device to make it useful - are we remotely surprised by this number?
 
2013-03-07 12:03:31 PM  

styckx: I've been running Android devices since 2010 and have never seen a single piece of "malware"..


This reminds me of something my father said to me once.
"I had no issues with viruses and whatnot. But then I installed that 'anti-virus' thing you mentioned, and now my computer's full of 'em!"
 
2013-03-07 12:11:03 PM  
Not known for having copious amounts of malware: Windows Phone. Ironic, no?


/Not saying there isn't any on WP
//Just sayin'
 
2013-03-07 12:14:19 PM  
Well to the credit of Android the malware people will never get a CC number out of any  Android user.
 
2013-03-07 12:14:57 PM  

neaorin: styckx: I've been running Android devices since 2010 and have never seen a single piece of "malware"..

This reminds me of something my father said to me once.
"I had no issues with viruses and whatnot. But then I installed that 'anti-virus' thing you mentioned, and now my computer's full of 'em!"


Ok.. Challenge accept

I installed AVG on my Nexus 4... It then scanned my loot and found three threats

USB Debugging On - No shiat
Unknown sources enabled  - Duh
I'm rooted - Ric Romero reporting

Yeah.. Quite the collection of threats there..
 
2013-03-07 12:23:03 PM  
I think the question that really needs to be asked here is: How can this be used to make Apple look bad?
 
2013-03-07 12:44:05 PM  

styckx: I'm curious what their definition of malware is. I've been running Android devices since 2010 and have never seen a single piece of "malware"..


milsorgen: I would love to know what they 1) what they consider to be malware 2) whether they are talking about official market apps, or apps available from all sources 3) how many apps they actually looked at to come to such a dubious claim.


It looks like they cast a pretty wide net and flagged some legitimate software as having potentially malicious uses, which always seems like assuming a carpenter is a mass murderer because he has access to hammers and saws.

Having said that, there's plenty of clearly bad stuff in the report as well, though I'm willing to bet none of the obvious malware came from any of the official app stores.

It was only a matter of time.
 
2013-03-07 12:48:25 PM  

illegal.tender: I think the question that really needs to be asked here is: How can this be used to make Apple look bad?


"Even our malware is more popular than iOS'!"
"Freedom to do what you want, even if it's stupid!"
"All the cool kids are doing it!"

Though to be honest Apple would probably sue for patent and/or copyright infringement on the last one.
 
2013-03-07 12:56:43 PM  
I blame Ultron.
 
2013-03-07 01:03:43 PM  

Spadababababababa Spadina Bus: Not known for having copious amounts of malware: Windows Phone. Ironic, no?


/Not saying there isn't any on WP
//Just sayin'


Considering the
-WP market share
-apps still need to be approved (i think)
-never heard of a "jailbroken" WP yet

not that surprising.

Love my WP.
 
2013-03-07 01:10:01 PM  

styckx: I'm curious what their definition of malware is. I've been running Android devices since 2010 and have never seen a single piece of "malware"..

What is an annoying trend is annoyyouware.. Subway Surfer is a great example.. You think the game is closed? Nope, fark you.. We're sending notifications to you about game mode offers available and you can't disable anywhere in game.  That new Simpsons Tapped Out game same shiat. Notifications constantly every time someone completes a task and there isn't a clear way to disable them.


If you're running Android 4.0+ (can't recall if 3.0 has this), long press the notification and hit "App Info" from the "menu" that pops up (there's just one item).  Alternately, you can go into the Settings / Application menu and find the offending application.

Either way, you can completely disable ALL notifications from any individual application.
 
2013-03-07 01:18:13 PM  

gingerjet: When your entire business model depends on the user breaking all the security controls on the device to make it useful - are we remotely surprised by this number?


Bears repeating.
 
2013-03-07 01:34:29 PM  

Spadababababababa Spadina Bus: Not known for having copious amounts of malware: Windows Phone. Ironic, no?


/Not saying there isn't any on WP
//Just sayin'


That's because relatively no one is using WP. The same excuse Windows gives to the lack of Linux viruses.
 
2013-03-07 01:35:33 PM  

SleepingEye: styckx: I'm curious what their definition of malware is. I've been running Android devices since 2010 and have never seen a single piece of "malware"..

What is an annoying trend is annoyyouware.. Subway Surfer is a great example.. You think the game is closed? Nope, fark you.. We're sending notifications to you about game mode offers available and you can't disable anywhere in game.  That new Simpsons Tapped Out game same shiat. Notifications constantly every time someone completes a task and there isn't a clear way to disable them.

If you're running Android 4.0+ (can't recall if 3.0 has this), long press the notification and hit "App Info" from the "menu" that pops up (there's just one item).  Alternately, you can go into the Settings / Application menu and find the offending application.

Either way, you can completely disable ALL notifications from any individual application.


I believe that's only available on Jelly Bean (4.1) and later. I have 3 different devices on ICS and none of them are able to disable individual notifications through the Android options.
 
2013-03-07 01:38:30 PM  

SleepingEye: styckx: I'm curious what their definition of malware is. I've been running Android devices since 2010 and have never seen a single piece of "malware"..

What is an annoying trend is annoyyouware.. Subway Surfer is a great example.. You think the game is closed? Nope, fark you.. We're sending notifications to you about game mode offers available and you can't disable anywhere in game.  That new Simpsons Tapped Out game same shiat. Notifications constantly every time someone completes a task and there isn't a clear way to disable them.

If you're running Android 4.0+ (can't recall if 3.0 has this), long press the notification and hit "App Info" from the "menu" that pops up (there's just one item).  Alternately, you can go into the Settings / Application menu and find the offending application.

Either way, you can completely disable ALL notifications from any individual application.


I know.. I'm one of those "It's not the point" type of guys.. It's a simple option to throw in the game. Swiftkey has those annoying notifications also but it's right in the settings of the app to disable them.  Swiftkey I spent money on (tablet version is a must).. The other two I uninstalled and didn't spend a dime on in app purchases because of the the notifications.
 
2013-03-07 01:47:44 PM  

gingerjet: When your entire business model depends on the user breaking all the security controls on the device to make it useful - are we remotely surprised by this number?


Hm.  I haven't "broken any security controls" on my SO's S3 -- what can't her phone do that an iPhone 5 can?

\ We call that "put up or shut up" 'round here
 
2013-03-07 02:02:06 PM  

Dokushin: gingerjet: When your entire business model depends on the user breaking all the security controls on the device to make it useful - are we remotely surprised by this number?

Hm.  I haven't "broken any security controls" on my SO's S3 -- what can't her phone do that an iPhone 5 can?

\ We call that "put up or shut up" 'round here


I think you misunderstood gingerjet's point.. it has nothing to do with 'Android vs iOS', it's a comment about how the whole idea behind Android was to make it easier to install custom software, but to do so you typically have to unlock certain functions and capabilities that would otherwise help prevent the sort of malware problems that are now occurring.
 
2013-03-07 02:03:43 PM  

Sim Tree: Spadababababababa Spadina Bus: Not known for having copious amounts of malware: Windows Phone. Ironic, no?


/Not saying there isn't any on WP
//Just sayin'

That's because relatively no one is using WP. The same excuse Windows gives to the lack of Linux viruses.


That and Windows Phone doesn't multitask. Kind of limits what you have to gain from malware.
 
2013-03-07 02:06:17 PM  

Dokushin: gingerjet: When your entire business model depends on the user breaking all the security controls on the device to make it useful - are we remotely surprised by this number?

Hm.  I haven't "broken any security controls" on my SO's S3 -- what can't her phone do that an iPhone 5 can?

\ We call that "put up or shut up" 'round here


I'm also patiently awaiting an answer.  I have an S3 and this thing runs CIRCLES around my coworker's iPhone 5.  And I"m not an Apple hater.  I love my iPad.  I love my iMac.  iOS was a better platform a couple of years ago.  But Jelly Bean is amazing.  I've had this phone for 3 months and have NEVER had a crash or a restart.  I can go 20+ hours on the battery.  I have Widgets that give me quicker access to apps.  And in owning Androids for 3 years I've NEVER had malware.  I don't really care who is better, because everything is relative, but it drives me nuts that iPhone heads talk like it is just common knowledge that iOS is better than Android.

Prove it.
 
2013-03-07 02:11:03 PM  

BStorm: it's a comment about how the whole idea behind Android was to make it easier to install custom software, but to do so you typically have to unlock certain functions and capabilities that would otherwise help prevent the sort of malware problems that are now occurring.


What functions and capabilities do I have to "typically have to unlock", and what "custom software" am I getting that was the "whole idea behind Android"?
 
2013-03-07 02:27:03 PM  

Dokushin: What functions and capabilities do I have to "typically have to unlock", and what "custom software" am I getting that was the "whole idea behind Android"?


I really don't know if he's talking about "rooting" or just installing apps from "unknown sources"

I just bought the latest Humble Android Bundle yesterday. I bought 6 games for a very low price, some of which aren't even in the Google store. To install them, I had to flip the switch to "allow apps from unknown sources," which is Android's way of saying "Hey, if you fark this up and install a virus, that's on you". This is a simple button push and doesn't require any special knowledge.

I have also "rooted" my phone before. I can get access to parts of the android filesystem that is otherwise inaccessible. This allowed me to edit my phone's /etc/hosts file and block ad servers just like I can with a computer. It also allowed me to install a wireless tether app that doesn't go through my carrier's "hotspot" service. Even rooted, though, I still have to give apps "Superuser" permission explicitly. I'm not just suddenly running every app as "root". This, however, requires doing things to your phone with special tools, unless you purposely bought a particular Android phone that comes with root (I think there have been a couple phones like that)
 
2013-03-07 02:29:24 PM  

gingerjet: When your entire business model depends on the user breaking all the security controls on the device to make it useful - are we remotely surprised by this number?


You're very much wrong here.
 
2013-03-07 02:34:50 PM  

styckx: neaorin: styckx: I've been running Android devices since 2010 and have never seen a single piece of "malware"..

This reminds me of something my father said to me once.
"I had no issues with viruses and whatnot. But then I installed that 'anti-virus' thing you mentioned, and now my computer's full of 'em!"

Ok.. Challenge accept

I installed AVG on my Nexus 4... It then scanned my loot and found three threats

USB Debugging On - No shiat
Unknown sources enabled  - Duh
I'm rooted - Ric Romero reporting

Yeah.. Quite the collection of threats there..


I think the point is that one of the more common malware vectors is fake "anti-virus" programs that offer to do a "free scan" and then install all sorts of malware.
 
2013-03-07 02:57:35 PM  

Aexia: styckx: neaorin: styckx: I've been running Android devices since 2010 and have never seen a single piece of "malware"..

This reminds me of something my father said to me once.
"I had no issues with viruses and whatnot. But then I installed that 'anti-virus' thing you mentioned, and now my computer's full of 'em!"

Ok.. Challenge accept

I installed AVG on my Nexus 4... It then scanned my loot and found three threats

USB Debugging On - No shiat
Unknown sources enabled  - Duh
I'm rooted - Ric Romero reporting

Yeah.. Quite the collection of threats there..

I think the point is that one of the more common malware vectors is fake "anti-virus" programs that offer to do a "free scan" and then install all sorts of malware.


Oh that. Yeah also a valid point. Sorry, a bit slow today..
 
2013-03-07 03:05:18 PM  
but but walled garden bad
 
2013-03-07 03:35:16 PM  
More people use android.
More people using android have problems.
"If you know what you are doing: no problems!".
Most people using android are dumb.

The end.
 
2013-03-07 03:59:56 PM  

jonny_q: Dokushin: What functions and capabilities do I have to "typically have to unlock", and what "custom software" am I getting that was the "whole idea behind Android"?

I really don't know if he's talking about "rooting" or just installing apps from "unknown sources"

I just bought the latest Humble Android Bundle yesterday. I bought 6 games for a very low price, some of which aren't even in the Google store. To install them, I had to flip the switch to "allow apps from unknown sources," which is Android's way of saying "Hey, if you fark this up and install a virus, that's on you". This is a simple button push and doesn't require any special knowledge.

I have also "rooted" my phone before. I can get access to parts of the android filesystem that is otherwise inaccessible. This allowed me to edit my phone's /etc/hosts file and block ad servers just like I can with a computer. It also allowed me to install a wireless tether app that doesn't go through my carrier's "hotspot" service. Even rooted, though, I still have to give apps "Superuser" permission explicitly. I'm not just suddenly running every app as "root". This, however, requires doing things to your phone with special tools, unless you purposely bought a particular Android phone that comes with root (I think there have been a couple phones like that)


For tethering without having to pay my provider an extra $20 a month, i just use PDAnet. Did not have to root the phone to do so.

I have my old gen 1 droid rooted just because. I'm using it as a sensor pack for my wacky robot experiments. I didn't HAVE to root the phone to do so, i just wanted to.
 
2013-03-07 05:03:35 PM  

Dokushin: BStorm: it's a comment about how the whole idea behind Android was to make it easier to install custom software, but to do so you typically have to unlock certain functions and capabilities that would otherwise help prevent the sort of malware problems that are now occurring.

What functions and capabilities do I have to "typically have to unlock", and what "custom software" am I getting that was the "whole idea behind Android"?


I'm referring to providing root access to programs that otherwise wouldn't have it (rooting), and unlocking the bootloader so you can run custom versions of the Android OS if you should choose to (flashing custom ROMs).

I'm not trying to infer that you have to unlock anything or install any custom software, but most manufacturers and carriers lock away a lot of the built-in functionality so that the only way you can access it is through THEIR software, and in some cases they demand more money to use something that you've already bought and paid for. And if you want to do something that their software doesn't even have an option to do, pay or not, you're SOL as far as they're concerned. Basically you've got a lot of unused potential, which you may not care about, but others do.

The whole idea of effectively removing or blocking capabilities from a device is contrary to Google's stated goal for Android, which is to allow for more open development and innovation, and that's why they came out with the Nexus line of devices that aren't locked down as heavily as most manufacturers would prefer.
 
2013-03-07 05:25:36 PM  

Prince George: Sim Tree: Spadababababababa Spadina Bus: Not known for having copious amounts of malware: Windows Phone. Ironic, no?


/Not saying there isn't any on WP
//Just sayin'

That's because relatively no one is using WP. The same excuse Windows gives to the lack of Linux viruses.

That and Windows Phone doesn't multitask. Kind of limits what you have to gain from malware.


Mine does and so does my wifes'. (WP7.8). So does my sons' (WP 8). Don't really see what you're getting at.
 
2013-03-07 05:28:26 PM  

BumpInTheNight: Its not like there is an article with you know a link to a big PDF that breaks down specifically by name and activity each malware item they list.


I don't know, I guess I'm with styckx. Been on the platform as long as it's been a platform but never actually seen any malware on my unit or the dozen or so I support at work. And we have some users who can barely figure out how to put the phone on silent. If someone says it exists I guess I believe them but call me back when it's actually something I need to worry about. It's just hard for me to get all up in arms about the fact that it exists. Because as far as I can tell you'd have to be asking for it pretty blatantly to have any problems with it.
 
2013-03-07 06:03:25 PM  

BStorm: Dokushin: BStorm: it's a comment about how the whole idea behind Android was to make it easier to install custom software, but to do so you typically have to unlock certain functions and capabilities that would otherwise help prevent the sort of malware problems that are now occurring.

What functions and capabilities do I have to "typically have to unlock", and what "custom software" am I getting that was the "whole idea behind Android"?

I'm referring to providing root access to programs that otherwise wouldn't have it (rooting), and unlocking the bootloader so you can run custom versions of the Android OS if you should choose to (flashing custom ROMs).

I'm not trying to infer that you have to unlock anything or install any custom software, but most manufacturers and carriers lock away a lot of the built-in functionality so that the only way you can access it is through THEIR software, and in some cases they demand more money to use something that you've already bought and paid for. And if you want to do something that their software doesn't even have an option to do, pay or not, you're SOL as far as they're concerned. Basically you've got a lot of unused potential, which you may not care about, but others do.

The whole idea of effectively removing or blocking capabilities from a device is contrary to Google's stated goal for Android, which is to allow for more open development and innovation, and that's why they came out with the Nexus line of devices that aren't locked down as heavily as most manufacturers would prefer.


All of that functionality is  unavailable on other platforms -- that is, it's not integral to the Android experience.  I was responding to allegations that Android was somehow designed around the idea that you  have to unlock, root, and flash custom ROMs, which is ridiculous.  Android phones are as capable as any other (I would argue more, with custom launchers, widgets, etc.) without adding additional security risks; yet every time someone notes the presence of Android malware in unsigned third-party apps there is a chorus of how somehow every single person with an Android phone is absolutely required to install unsafe software, which is nonsense.  Certainly the options are there -- but they are not necessary to use or enjoy the platform.
 
2013-03-07 06:46:35 PM  

Dokushin: All of that functionality is unavailable on other platforms -- that is, it's not integral to the Android experience. I was responding to allegations that Android was somehow designed around the idea that you have to unlock, root, and flash custom ROMs, which is ridiculous. Android phones are as capable as any other (I would argue more, with custom launchers, widgets, etc.) without adding additional security risks; yet every time someone notes the presence of Android malware in unsigned third-party apps there is a chorus of how somehow every single person with an Android phone is absolutely required to install unsafe software, which is nonsense. Certainly the options are there -- but they are not necessary to use or enjoy the platform.


This. I rooted my prior phone so I could use the hotspot with no carrier charge, that's basically all I used root for. I have an N4 now and it wasn't necessary so I haven't rooted it.
 
2013-03-07 07:27:23 PM  

Dokushin: I was responding to allegations that Android was somehow designed around the idea that you have to unlock, root, and flash custom ROMs, which is ridiculous.


Ah, I see what you're getting at now. I guess the iPhone mention threw me off, seemed like it came out of nowhere. Doesn't help that I've been butting heads with one of the IT managers who insists that iOS is the be-all of existence, to the point of hassling people who don't use it for their personal phones, so I'm probably a bit more jumpy than I usually would be.
 
2013-03-07 08:06:02 PM  

styckx: I'm curious what their definition of malware is. I've been running Android devices since 2010 and have never seen a single piece of "malware"..

What is an annoying trend is annoyyouware.. Subway Surfer is a great example.. You think the game is closed? Nope, fark you.. We're sending notifications to you about game mode offers available and you can't disable anywhere in game.  That new Simpsons Tapped Out game same shiat. Notifications constantly every time someone completes a task and there isn't a clear way to disable them.


Ha ha - some people don't download every app they hear about.

I have an Android phone and I haven't download an app in a couple of years. I just have no interest in most stupid apps. I downloaded a few in the first 6 months I owned it, but mostly out of novelty.

I use my phone as a phone and as a GPS device and web-browser when I'm not at home. There's really not much more I want to do with it than that.

My favorite app was killed by CBS.

Tricorder.
 
2013-03-07 08:36:01 PM  

Drewdad: It's the iOS number that I find most interesting.  You can only install apps from Apple, yet people are still getting malware?

Tsk tsk.


I assume you've never heard of jailbreaking
 
2013-03-07 08:38:57 PM  

Spadababababababa Spadina Bus: Not known for having copious amounts of malware: Windows Phone. Ironic, no?


/Not saying there isn't any on WP
//Just sayin'


Malware programmers go where the users are, that ain't Windows Phone.
 
2013-03-07 09:31:19 PM  

Dokushin: gingerjet: When your entire business model depends on the user breaking all the security controls on the device to make it useful - are we remotely surprised by this number?

Hm.  I haven't "broken any security controls" on my SO's S3 -- what can't her phone do that an iPhone 5 can?

\ We call that "put up or shut up" 'round here


It's called apple envy.  He is a troll just add him to the ignore list.
 
2013-03-07 10:52:10 PM  

Digitalstrange: Drewdad: It's the iOS number that I find most interesting.  You can only install apps from Apple, yet people are still getting malware?

Tsk tsk.

I assume you've never heard of jailbreaking


How many people actually jailbreak their phones?
 
2013-03-07 10:52:31 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: I blame Ultron.


I blame ultros.
 
2013-03-08 07:32:44 AM  

Happy Hours: Digitalstrange: Drewdad: It's the iOS number that I find most interesting.  You can only install apps from Apple, yet people are still getting malware?

Tsk tsk.

I assume you've never heard of jailbreaking

How many people actually jailbreak their phones?


Well within 4 days of the current iOS 6 jailbreak being released, 7 million iOS devices were jailbroken. Of that, 5.15 million were iPhones. BGR
 
2013-03-09 02:22:26 PM  
This chart/article is exactly what I believe is wrong with the world.  Why would ANYONE care about the percentage of malware by platform?  Without knowing the relative market-share it means NOTHING.

If 99% of phones run Android and only 80% of the malware is on Android phones - Android is doing pretty good.  If Android has 10% of the phone market and 80% of the malware - it's horrible.  This is like announcing a list of how many baskets one team scored in a basketball game, without mentioning how many were 2 pointers vs 3 pointers and without mentioning what score the other team had.  It's factual, but it's retarded and meaningless.
 
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